Thanks, Nivard! Some good tips there. There are several 'Business Related' programs that I run when I need to run in Administrator Mode or I don't have 'change authority'... only display. Here is more info on enabling Administrator Mode in Win 7 or 8... http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/enable-the-hidden-administrator-account-on-windows-vista/ And the many ways to "Run As Administrator.".. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11841-run-administrator.html Just to note... there are risks to running as Administrator... Admin vs Standard user: pros and cons http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/understanding-windows-7-uac.htm Most home users run as admin since it is easier to install/uninstall/update programs, drivers, games etc. The downside of running as admin is that malware, viruses and rootkits can do more damage to your system. There is also a huge possibility that you can unintentionally damage your system due to easier access to system tools like the Windows Registry (regedit) and the system configuration (msconifg). As a standard user, your access will be limited, but you will be able to do most things except for making system wide changes, adding/removing/ updating programs. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all > > Funny what you find whilst looking for other things isn't it > > Whilst I was aware of most, numbers 1, 6 & 7 were new to me > > <http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/business/community/hints-and-tips/seven-amazing-windows-7-tips-to-get-more-done?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=Reprise_Outbrain_Seven+Windows7+Tips> > > > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross kr5927@gmail.com

Hi all Funny what you find whilst looking for other things isn't it Whilst I was aware of most, numbers 1, 6 & 7 were new to me <http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/business/community/hints-and-tips/seven-amazing-windows-7-tips-to-get-more-done?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=Reprise_Outbrain_Seven+Windows7+Tips> -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Lori, I purchased an HP Compaq Elite 8300 All in One. Looked very impressive and for a while worked well ( came with Windows 7 Pro ) installed. It worked for a few months, then suddenly gave up the ghost. Contacted HP Tech Assistance and no one could work out the problem. After a couple of months procrastination, HP replaced the computer. I have had a number of problems with this one, and in the last instance, could not get the problem fixed by the Indian technicians. Finally, fixed it myself. I have little faith in HP Tech Support, and if I get another problem, will get rid of all the HP baggage on the computer and install my own copy of Windows 7, which I have purchased in anticipation. Having said that, the computer is now behaving itself. It must be aware of what is in store for it. There are a number of All in One Computers available, and I suggest a Google search, particularly looking at Reviews. Hope you have better luck than mine. Ken Smart. -----Original Message----- From: Lori Camper Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:54 PM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Buying a new Computer. My mother has been looking for a new desktop. She does not want a laptop. She has run across the all in one computers with the large screen. I think HP has a line called Envy. I haven't paid any attention to these since it's not something I'm interested in. Does anyone have any knowledge, experience, or opinions on these type of machines? Lori Camper ----- 19/14

I would suggest that, as with anything we buy these days (and, perhaps, always) you really get what you pay for. Computer and Printer components cost a certain amount... any less and you are getting inferior quality parts and will be headed for problems... The HP Envy 4500 is a very inexpensive printer and is not geared to being a workhorse. I am not saying that it is cheaply made, but it is made with a particular end user in mind... one who needs a printer, but not all that often. Review... http://www.digitaltrends.com/printer-reviews/hp-envy-4500-review/ My own experience with HP Printers & Laptops has been totally different. I purchased a mid-range B&W Laser printer (HP 1320, I believe) about 6 or 7 years ago and it has worked exceptionally since then. I do not print all that much... but when I need to, it is there. Companies I have worked for over the years have always used HP and they have all worked very well. I also have an HP Laptop (HP ProBook 6560b) I use for work and it works great and has for 5 years now... As far as desktop computers go, I do a lot of Photoshop and Video work, so I need a good desktop. Laptops just don't work well for this work. I am about to get a new desktop built for me, from selected components, in the next few weeks and I anticipate spending under $1000 CDN. That should be plenty to get a system that will last for 4-5 years of heavy use. It sounds costly, but when you consider that the cost is amortized over a number of years, I think it is worthwhile putting a little more in to get better components. My opinion... I'm open to any questions concerning any of this, if you want to... Regards, Kevin. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:07 AM, <wstjs@aol.com> wrote: > > I totaly agree with Lori. I foolishly just purchased another one of their computers after the first one (top of their line) gave me trouble right from the start. Gears were not working right, could hear the noise, took it back to Staples who would not do anything about it, although I had purchased an additional warranty from them. They told me that I had to communicate with HP directly for any help. Could not get anywhere with HP until my tech called them on the phone and "insisted" they do something about it after he went thru many many steps with them on the phone. Finally they agreed to send me a new printer, exactly the same one, they did, it was a rebuild printer and lasted only two years. I then foolishly purchased another HP printer because the man at Best Buy gave me a good story about how HP computers were the best now. This time I purchased the cheapest HP computer Best Buy had with idea I would probably have to purchase anyother and would not lose so much! m! > oney. > > I now have an Envy 4500 which the salesman told me would print everything including be able to copy and send documents/photos etc. over the internet. It will not. I had the tech from Best Buy install it for me to make sure it was done correctly. I called them back when I learned that it would not copy and send a document or photo over the internet, THEN I LEARNED that I had to purchase extra software from them in order to do this. As just a printer it works fine but will not scan and send over the internet. > > Janet > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Smart <ksmart1@optusnet.com.au> > To: computers <computers@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 10:18 pm > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Buying a new Computer. > > > Lori, > > I purchased an HP Compaq Elite 8300 All in One. Looked very impressive and > for a while worked well ( came with Windows 7 Pro ) installed. > > It worked for a few months, then suddenly gave up the ghost. Contacted HP > Tech Assistance and no one could work out the problem. After a couple of > months procrastination, HP replaced the computer. I have had a number of > problems with this one, and in the last instance, could not get the problem > fixed by the Indian technicians. Finally, fixed it myself. > I have little faith in HP Tech Support, and if I get another problem, will > get rid of all the HP baggage on the computer and install my own copy of > Windows 7, which I have purchased in anticipation. > > Having said that, the computer is now behaving itself. It must be aware of > what is in store for it. > > There are a number of All in One Computers available, and I suggest a Google > search, particularly looking at Reviews. > > Hope you have better luck than mine. > > Ken Smart. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lori Camper > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:54 PM > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Buying a new Computer. > > My mother has been looking for a new desktop. She does not want a laptop. > She has run across the all in one computers with the large screen. I think > HP has a line called Envy. I haven't paid any attention to these since it's > not something I'm interested in. Does anyone have any knowledge, > experience, or opinions on these type of machines? > > Lori Camper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > 19/14 > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the > list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems > incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross kr5927@gmail.com

I totaly agree with Lori. I foolishly just purchased another one of their computers after the first one (top of their line) gave me trouble right from the start. Gears were not working right, could hear the noise, took it back to Staples who would not do anything about it, although I had purchased an additional warranty from them. They told me that I had to communicate with HP directly for any help. Could not get anywhere with HP until my tech called them on the phone and "insisted" they do something about it after he went thru many many steps with them on the phone. Finally they agreed to send me a new printer, exactly the same one, they did, it was a rebuild printer and lasted only two years. I then foolishly purchased another HP printer because the man at Best Buy gave me a good story about how HP computers were the best now. This time I purchased the cheapest HP computer Best Buy had with idea I would probably have to purchase anyother and would not lose so much money. I now have an Envy 4500 which the salesman told me would print everything including be able to copy and send documents/photos etc. over the internet. It will not. I had the tech from Best Buy install it for me to make sure it was done correctly. I called them back when I learned that it would not copy and send a document or photo over the internet, THEN I LEARNED that I had to purchase extra software from them in order to do this. As just a printer it works fine but will not scan and send over the internet. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Ken Smart <ksmart1@optusnet.com.au> To: computers <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 10:18 pm Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Buying a new Computer. Lori, I purchased an HP Compaq Elite 8300 All in One. Looked very impressive and for a while worked well ( came with Windows 7 Pro ) installed. It worked for a few months, then suddenly gave up the ghost. Contacted HP Tech Assistance and no one could work out the problem. After a couple of months procrastination, HP replaced the computer. I have had a number of problems with this one, and in the last instance, could not get the problem fixed by the Indian technicians. Finally, fixed it myself. I have little faith in HP Tech Support, and if I get another problem, will get rid of all the HP baggage on the computer and install my own copy of Windows 7, which I have purchased in anticipation. Having said that, the computer is now behaving itself. It must be aware of what is in store for it. There are a number of All in One Computers available, and I suggest a Google search, particularly looking at Reviews. Hope you have better luck than mine. Ken Smart. -----Original Message----- From: Lori Camper Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:54 PM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Buying a new Computer. My mother has been looking for a new desktop. She does not want a laptop. She has run across the all in one computers with the large screen. I think HP has a line called Envy. I haven't paid any attention to these since it's not something I'm interested in. Does anyone have any knowledge, experience, or opinions on these type of machines? Lori Camper ----- 19/14 :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My mother has been looking for a new desktop. She does not want a laptop. She has run across the all in one computers with the large screen. I think HP has a line called Envy. I haven't paid any attention to these since it's not something I'm interested in. Does anyone have any knowledge, experience, or opinions on these type of machines? Lori Camper > On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Dasmi1170@aol.com wrote: > > Thank you very much for your ideas about XP and buying a new computer.

I've built my own machines for years, but if you know someone that will build a custom system for you, it usually costs less overall and you get what you want without all the stuff you don't need. -----Original Message----- From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dasmi1170@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:26 PM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: [COMPUTERS] (no subject) Hello, With XP soon to bit the dust and with my very old Gateway computer I feel I should buy a new computer. Any ideas as to a good brand? I do Genealogy, Gardening and emails. I would appreciate any information. Thank you! Joan

Hi Joan Most computers will be much of a muchness these days Get the best you can for your budget The most RAM, the largest hard drive, best processor Budget will dictate more than make Set your budget then see what is the best you can get for that I have been happy with an Acer, my wife with a Lenovo Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 19/03/2014 19:26, Dasmi1170@aol.com wrote: > Hello, > > With XP soon to bit the dust and with my very old Gateway computer I feel I > should buy a new computer. > > Any ideas as to a good brand? > > I do Genealogy, Gardening and emails. > > I would appreciate any information. > > Thank you! > > Joan

Hello, Thank you very much for your ideas about XP and buying a new computer. Joan from snowy and cold Ma

There are both pros and cons to an all in one -- for most being a con - if anything goes wrong, the whole thing has to be taken to the shop. Another con (in my opinion) is that most aren't expandable so you can't add anything (such as a better video card) that won't run through a USB port. Biggest pro is that they take less space as a general rule. If you decide to get one, make absolutely sure it has everything you need. Aloha Wayne, NH6K -----Original Message----- From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lori Camper Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:54 PM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Buying a new Computer. My mother has been looking for a new desktop. She does not want a laptop. She has run across the all in one computers with the large screen. I think HP has a line called Envy. I haven't paid any attention to these since it's not something I'm interested in. Does anyone have any knowledge, experience, or opinions on these type of machines? Lori Camper > On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Dasmi1170@aol.com wrote: > > Thank you very much for your ideas about XP and buying a new computer. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm not comfortable with giving advise on what to buy for a new computer; however, I will say this if you Google "keeping XP after end of life" you will find good advise on how to keep your XP Gateway safe after the security updates stop. I have a Gateway XP laptop that works just fine, upgrading it or buying a new computer is not feasible for me to do right now. Something to think about if you are not really ready for new computer, but if you are I suggest going to stores that sell computers and find something you like. Good Luck, Joan On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:33 PM, <Dasmi1170@aol.com> wrote: > Sorry the subject should be new computers. > Hello, > > With XP soon to bit the dust and with my very old Gateway computer I feel > I > should buy a new computer. > > Any ideas as to a good brand? > > I do Genealogy, Gardening and emails. > > I would appreciate any information. > > Thank you! > > Joan > > > > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on > the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems > incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry the subject should be new computers. Hello, With XP soon to bit the dust and with my very old Gateway computer I feel I should buy a new computer. Any ideas as to a good brand? I do Genealogy, Gardening and emails. I would appreciate any information. Thank you! Joan

Hello, With XP soon to bit the dust and with my very old Gateway computer I feel I should buy a new computer. Any ideas as to a good brand? I do Genealogy, Gardening and emails. I would appreciate any information. Thank you! Joan

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Don't worry Janet we are still, thankfully, entitled to our own opinions They haven't taxed that yet, although its probably only a matter of time :-) I had nothing but trouble with Norton on more than just one machine But you are happy with, I have no problem with that Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14/03/2014 14:16, wstjs@aol.com wrote: > > Nivard, > > Each to his own but I disagree with you entirely. I have used Norton by Symantec since 1983 when I bought my first computer and have had other computers since then and now a laptop for quite a few years. All have had Norton on them and never have had a problem with a slow computer. A tech that I have had several times and my daughter who occassionly uses computer when she is here, have both remarked about my computer being fast. My first computer lasted until last year but of course could no longer use it on the internet as it lacked the capability as time went on and then I used it only for my genealogy. > > Janet

Sorry Janet Each to their own but I would steer clear of Norton especially if you are using an older computer as it slows down your machine markedly Just my opinion and I am sure like Janet there are others out there who rave about Norton but in my experience I have had nothing but trouble with it The first thing I do when receiving a new computer is remove Norton and associated bloatware When I was using XP I used the free Comodo firewall and Avast free anti-virus With Win7 I use the Windows firewall and Avast Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Robert, > > I highly recomment Norton since I have used it for many years without any problems. You can download from the internet or I think but it at any store which I think I did the first time. They have done a great job stopping and getting rid of viruses before they get into your computer and several have blocked intruders trying to get into my computer. I have used it for more than 20 years without a problem. Never have had a virus get into my computer or anyone else. > > Janet

Nivard, LOL, I totaly agree with you. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> To: computers <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 9:24 am Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Virus Don't worry Janet we are still, thankfully, entitled to our own opinions They haven't taxed that yet, although its probably only a matter of time :-) I had nothing but trouble with Norton on more than just one machine But you are happy with, I have no problem with that Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14/03/2014 14:16, wstjs@aol.com wrote: > > Nivard, > > Each to his own but I disagree with you entirely. I have used Norton by Symantec since 1983 when I bought my first computer and have had other computers since then and now a laptop for quite a few years. All have had Norton on them and never have had a problem with a slow computer. A tech that I have had several times and my daughter who occassionly uses computer when she is here, have both remarked about my computer being fast. My first computer lasted until last year but of course could no longer use it on the internet as it lacked the capability as time went on and then I used it only for my genealogy. > > Janet :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with Nivard... Anti-Virus: Avira or Avast Firewall: Comodo Free Great products that do the job they are intended for... no more... no less. I have been in the Tech Industry since 1979 and was a heavy user of Norton, in the beginning (i.e. Norton Utilities was an amazing product way back), but have to say that, now, it and much other commercial software is nothing more than Bloatware and is too expensive for what it does. There are superior products out there. Even the businesses that I have been associated with over the past 20 years, use McAfee as their go-to security product. Regards, On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry Janet > > Each to their own but I would steer clear of Norton especially if you > are using an older computer as it slows down your machine markedly > > Just my opinion and I am sure like Janet there are others out there who > rave about Norton but in my experience I have had nothing but trouble > with it > > The first thing I do when receiving a new computer is remove Norton and > associated bloatware > > When I was using XP I used the free Comodo firewall and Avast free > anti-virus > > With Win7 I use the Windows firewall and Avast > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > >> Robert, >> >> I highly recomment Norton since I have used it for many years without any problems. You can download from the internet or I think but it at any store which I think I did the first time. They have done a great job stopping and getting rid of viruses before they get into your computer and several have blocked intruders trying to get into my computer. I have used it for more than 20 years without a problem. Never have had a virus get into my computer or anyone else. >> >> Janet > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. > > This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross kr5927@gmail.com

Nivard, Each to his own but I disagree with you entirely. I have used Norton by Symantec since 1983 when I bought my first computer and have had other computers since then and now a laptop for quite a few years. All have had Norton on them and never have had a problem with a slow computer. A tech that I have had several times and my daughter who occassionly uses computer when she is here, have both remarked about my computer being fast. My first computer lasted until last year but of course could no longer use it on the internet as it lacked the capability as time went on and then I used it only for my genealogy. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> To: computers <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 8:57 am Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Virus Sorry Janet Each to their own but I would steer clear of Norton especially if you are using an older computer as it slows down your machine markedly Just my opinion and I am sure like Janet there are others out there who rave about Norton but in my experience I have had nothing but trouble with it The first thing I do when receiving a new computer is remove Norton and associated bloatware When I was using XP I used the free Comodo firewall and Avast free anti-virus With Win7 I use the Windows firewall and Avast Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Robert, > > I highly recomment Norton since I have used it for many years without any problems. You can download from the internet or I think but it at any store which I think I did the first time. They have done a great job stopping and getting rid of viruses before they get into your computer and several have blocked intruders trying to get into my computer. I have used it for more than 20 years without a problem. Never have had a virus get into my computer or anyone else. > > Janet :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. You can buy/sell for free on the Genealogical Materials lists. This list is for peer-to-peer support and discussion of computer problems incurred in genealogy research. Use caution when following any advice. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:52 AM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: [COMPUTERS] Virus Hi List, Can anyone recommend a good virus protection to purchase for my Dell computer. I don't trust any sites to download a virus program. thanks, rothenbuhler Robert, I highly recomment Norton since I have used it for many years without any problems. You can download from the internet or I think but it at any store which I think I did the first time. They have done a great job stopping and getting rid of viruses before they get into your computer and several have blocked intruders trying to get into my computer. I have used it for more than 20 years without a problem. Never have had a virus get into my computer or anyone else. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Jones <jonesr007@hawaii.rr.com> To: computers <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Mar 13, 2014 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Virus Go to Microsoft and download their free Windows Defender. An excellent and free program Aloha Wayne, NH6K -----Original Message----- From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Rothenbuhler Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:52 AM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: [COMPUTERS] Virus Hi List, Can anyone recommend a good virus protection to purchase for my Dell computer. I don't trust any sites to download a virus program. thanks, robert rothenbuhler