Peter I would suggest that you get MailWasher. You can look at all you mail from the server prior to downloading. i.e. you don't have to go separate folder to check for spam. You can also create a "Friends" list, the mail from which goes directly to your email program. With respect to changing your email address, I did this several years ago. I was relatively spam free for several months but the more I used my address the more spam you I eventually received. The complexity of the address will have not an effect on this Bob Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Metcalfe" <Peter-redfern@runbox.com> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:53 AM Subject: [COMPUTERS] Spam Suddenly I am getting about 100 spam emails per day and rising. If I was to create a new email address like p8*6&t^f£@etc.com would that prevent spam, reduce it a little or make no difference in the long term? At present 99% of it goes directly into the spam folder but unfortunatley so do some genuine emails so I still have to check them all. I would appreciate some advice please. Peter :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: If it's not immediately apparent, be sure to mention how your query relates to family research. Please don't post promotions of commercial products or services, and avoid mentioning prices. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning Nivard, Thank you so much for your reply and your thoughts on IE v Firefox. I will download Firefox and give it a try. IE at present is crashing at least once a week so I've got nothing to lose. I also have trouble viewing some webpages with IE so perhaps this will improve that too. Thanks again for your help, I like the idea of Firefox saving the sites I'm viewing if it does crash. Lee > Hi Lee > > Food for thought re your loss when IE crashes > > I have been using Firefox for a little while due to the speed of loading > problems I was having with IE > > I find that FF is quite unstable by comparison to IE and crashes far more > however FF does save the sites you were viewing at the time it crashes so > its not all bad, on restarting FF you are offered the option of reopening > the previous windows or a new one > > To qualify what I mean by *crashes frequently* compared to IE, I rarely > ever > had a crash with IE, perhaps 3 or 4 times a year (I can't say I kept a > record) with FF its more like once a week > > I currently use FF with XP > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > > >

Morning Kevin, To answer your questions ... I'm using IE 7, I hadn't updated to the newer version as yet. I am running an anti-virus which scans daily. I have a firewall on the wireless router. I think I will take your suggestion to download Firefox and see if it performs better. Thank you so very much for taking the time to reply. Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Ross" <kr5927@gmail.com> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Internet explorer > It could be many things, Lee. > > What version of IE are you using? > Have you recently updated IE to a newer version? > > Try reinstalling or repairing IE... > (Instructions here from Microsoft for IE7 & IE8) > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318378 > > Are you running an Anti-Virus software? > Try doing a complete system scan to see if there is anything lurking > in your system. > > Are you using a Firewall? > (if not, install now... even if it is the MS Firewall) > > I would suggest that you download and install Firefox and see if you > have a better browsing experience. > > > Regards, > Kevin. > > > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Lee Haley <mlhaley@nor.com.au> wrote: >> I too have a problem with internet explorer which is very frustrating. >> >> Mine is that it will suddenly close without warning and I lose everything >> I'd been looking at. I don't get any error messages at all. >> >> I'm running Vista. >> >> Perhaps I should change to Firefox which was suggested, but I would be >> interested to know why this is happening. >> >> Lee >> >> >> >> >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> If it's not immediately apparent, be sure to mention how your query >> relates to family research. >> >> Please don't post promotions of commercial products or services, and >> avoid mentioning prices. >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > K. Ross > kr5927@gmail.com > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > If it's not immediately apparent, be sure to mention how your query > relates to family research. > > Please don't post promotions of commercial products or services, and avoid > mentioning prices. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are most welcome Funnily enough it just happened again, what seems to cause it is trying to use the back button to fast Give it a try, as you say what have you to lose Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Morning Nivard, > > Thank you so much for your reply and your thoughts on IE v Firefox. > > I will download Firefox and give it a try. IE at present is crashing at > least once a week so I've got nothing to lose. I also have trouble > viewing > some webpages with IE so perhaps this will improve that too. > > Thanks again for your help, I like the idea of Firefox saving the sites > I'm > viewing if it does crash. > > Lee

In my experience, Firefox only crashes on the Ancestry site and it seems to happen when I try to back page too quickly. The fact that it saves where I was when it does crash is a great feature. Vanessa At 10:38 AM 5/4/2009, you wrote: >Hi Lee > >Food for thought re your loss when IE crashes > >I have been using Firefox for a little while due to the speed of loading >problems I was having with IE > >I find that FF is quite unstable by comparison to IE and crashes far more >however FF does save the sites you were viewing at the time it crashes so >its not all bad, on restarting FF you are offered the option of reopening >the previous windows or a new one

Yep have to agree with you on all points there If the disruption caused by people writing malicious code was as expensive as suggested, surely the big guns of the software industry would wipe it out (and they have the clout to do so I would say) but they make a tidy sum from ant-virus etc so thats unlikely to happen Re the site you posted, I do wish these sites would not use such dark colours for their pages its terrible on the eyes Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > As well, I have always thought there was something very peculiar about > the whole anti-virus business... These software companies NEED to have > viruses to fight... or there is no business... > > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353619/pg1 > > > Regards, > Kevin.

Thanks, Nivard, that's what I thought but just wanted to be certain. Didn't want to give him something else that wouldn't work. : ) Thanks, Toni ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington Hi again All you need to do is plug in the flashdrive, go to the FF link I sent earlier and download from there to the flashdrive, plug the flashdrive into the other PC and copy across to a suitable folder (I have one on my desktop called downloads) Navigate to the folder and double click the file Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Lee Food for thought re your loss when IE crashes I have been using Firefox for a little while due to the speed of loading problems I was having with IE I find that FF is quite unstable by comparison to IE and crashes far more however FF does save the sites you were viewing at the time it crashes so its not all bad, on restarting FF you are offered the option of reopening the previous windows or a new one To qualify what I mean by *crashes frequently* compared to IE, I rarely ever had a crash with IE, perhaps 3 or 4 times a year (I can't say I kept a record) with FF its more like once a week I currently use FF with XP Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > I would suggest that you download and install Firefox and see if you > have a better browsing experience. > > > Regards, > Kevin. > > > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Lee Haley <mlhaley@nor.com.au> wrote: >> I too have a problem with internet explorer which is very frustrating. >> >> Mine is that it will suddenly close without warning and I lose everything >> I'd been looking at. I don't get any error messages at all. >> >> I'm running Vista. >> >> Perhaps I should change to Firefox which was suggested, but I would be >> interested to know why this is happening. >> >> Lee

It could be many things, Lee. What version of IE are you using? Have you recently updated IE to a newer version? Try reinstalling or repairing IE... (Instructions here from Microsoft for IE7 & IE8) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318378 Are you running an Anti-Virus software? Try doing a complete system scan to see if there is anything lurking in your system. Are you using a Firewall? (if not, install now... even if it is the MS Firewall) I would suggest that you download and install Firefox and see if you have a better browsing experience. Regards, Kevin. On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Lee Haley <mlhaley@nor.com.au> wrote: > I too have a problem with internet explorer which is very frustrating. > > Mine is that it will suddenly close without warning and I lose everything > I'd been looking at.  I don't get any error messages at all. > > I'm running Vista. > > Perhaps I should change to Firefox which was suggested, but I would be > interested to know why this is happening. > > Lee > > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > If it's not immediately apparent, be sure to mention how your query relates to family research. > > Please don't post promotions of commercial products or services, and avoid mentioning prices. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- K. Ross kr5927@gmail.com

I too have a problem with internet explorer which is very frustrating. Mine is that it will suddenly close without warning and I lose everything I'd been looking at. I don't get any error messages at all. I'm running Vista. Perhaps I should change to Firefox which was suggested, but I would be interested to know why this is happening. Lee

I am quite cynical about these things, as well, but I also have to weigh that with the ever increasing need to secure my system. In the case of Secunia, they are targeting the Corporate accounts and offer this service to non-corporate users for free. In my experience, this is a common method of handling business on-line. My only gripe with this software is the amount of time it takes to update all of my systems... not fun !!! I am also an incurable conspiracy theorist and have long thought that there are many "conflicts of interest" in the computer and on-line world... I often wonder, for instance, why hard drive prices seemed to drop very sharply and suddenly when it was known that the new operating systems from Microsoft (and the programs and software running on them) would need massive amounts of memory, just to load the programs ! As well, I have always thought there was something very peculiar about the whole anti-virus business... These software companies NEED to have viruses to fight... or there is no business... http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353619/pg1 Regards, Kevin. On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Nivard Ovington <ovington1@sky.com> wrote: > Hi Paul > > You could well be right > > I am always suspicious that there are deeper motives to the supply of free > software but its something we have to live with isn't it > > I find it very annoying that you have to virtually sign your rights away > every time you want a quote for anything (insurance etc) by having to agree > to their terms and conditions which are most of the time such gobbledegook > that you can't work out what they actually mean, beats me how they get away > with it but they do > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> Nivard >> >> In a word, publicity ! They are a huge company, and supplying a free piece >> of software is a very cost-effective way of getting your company's name >> well-known. For example, it got them this article in "Computeractive" >> magazine >> :- >> >> _http://www.computeractive.co.uk/computeractive/downloads/2197771/secunia-pe >> rsonal-software_ >> (http://www.computeractive.co.uk/computeractive/downloads/2197771/secunia-personal-software) >> >> Best wishes. >> >> Paul Gaskell >> Oxfordshire Family History Society >> Website : _www.ofhs.org.uk_ (http://www.ofhs.org.uk) > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > If it's not immediately apparent, be sure to mention how your query relates to family research. > > Please don't post promotions of commercial products or services, and avoid mentioning prices. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- K. Ross kr5927@gmail.com

Don't think so, this was his actual Zone Alarm reminder that an upgrade (pay version) is available. I get the same offer but noticed it says upgrade - not update - so ignored it. My neighbor had the one you mentioned, we got shed of it with malwarebytes. I believe this was just an install gone bad, or, perhaps it went bad due to a problem with IE or something. Thanks, Toni ----- Original Message ----- Sounds like he has the FAKE AV 2008 or 2009 See http://www.theweeklygeek.com/2008/10/30/av2009-the-fake-anti-virus/ And http://www.wiki-security.com/wiki/Parasite/Antivirus2009 Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers

: Have any of you people having problems recently installed Foxit or the Foxit Toolbar : (which is actually the Ask Toolbar). I did and that is when my problems started. : I could not type in urls in Firefox without going to a different url. Bookmarks seemed to : work ok. In IE, I would get "cannot display web page" error. I uninstalled Foxit and : the toolbar and the problem went away. From Googling, I think the toolbar was : the problem. : : Bob Wilson : : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "miseria" <miseria@charter.net> : To: <computers@rootsweb.com> : Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:35 AM : Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] IE cannot display webpage : : :: Can't do it because he needs to google firefox, once the google links :: come up, when he clicks the link he needs, then he gets the 'cannot :: display web page" error. The only way he can get back on the net is :: by reset the modem, restarting, etc. Thanks. :: :: :: ----- Original Message ----- :: From: Vanessa Stern :: :: :: Have you tried another browser, such as Firefox, to see if he has the :: same problems? :: :: Vanessa :: :: :: :: :: :::-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: :: :: If it's not immediately apparent, be sure to mention how your query relates to family research. :: :: Please don't post promotions of commercial products or services, and avoid mentioning prices. :: :::-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: :: :: :: :: :: ------------------------------- :: To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word : 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :: :

Hi again All you need to do is plug in the flashdrive, go to the FF link I sent earlier and download from there to the flashdrive, plug the flashdrive into the other PC and copy across to a suitable folder (I have one on my desktop called downloads) Navigate to the folder and double click the file Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Yep, I can do the flash, but I need to know this, do I just send the > set up exe or what? > > Sorry, his frustration is rubbing off and I'm not thinking clearly. > : ) > > Thanks so much. > > Toni

Hi again Then why not save to a flash drive and use that ? I rarely use CDs or DVDs now as I use flashdrives for most things, easier and quicker Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > The CD issue is because usually when I try to burn one it doesn't work > for me, haven't tried again in ages, I backup to flash drives. > > Thanks again. > > Toni

Hi again Get a free e mail account at gmail or yahoo or wherever I have had one free account deleted in ten years On the firefox to CD front, whats there to be good about? Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Can't send the link because he doesn't hardly ever use his email so > his ISP keeps de-activating his email account. Dumb. > > I can try to burn FF to a disk for him, never been good at that, > though. > > I'm stumped, never seen this issue discussed before, I've blown what > little I know. Thanks much. > > Toni

Sounds like he has the FAKE AV 2008 or 2009 See http://www.theweeklygeek.com/2008/10/30/av2009-the-fake-anti-virus/ And http://www.wiki-security.com/wiki/Parasite/Antivirus2009 Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -----Original Message----- From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of miseria Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:02 AM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: [COMPUTERS] IE cannot display webpage Son has old Dell desktop, XP, cable ISP connection, IE7. He can only do one look-up on the internet though he resets the cable modem it's only good for one shot, i.e., he googles the error he received (IE cannot display the web page), that takes him to the links but he can't go further until he resets, restarts, etc., and by then he loses his links to find a cure. This just started happening. He always keeps on top of all updates. Restore didn't work. That one shot bit has me stumped. Any ideas? The computer seems to work fine other than that, so I was wondering if it was more ISP (U-Verse) related. Did think about uninstalling IE7 and try IE6 to see if 7 may be corrupted. Seems strange that it works fine for the first look-up though. Dunno. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Thank you. Toni :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: If it's not immediately apparent, be sure to mention how your query relates to family research. Please don't post promotions of commercial products or services, and avoid mentioning prices. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is a browser add in like java, Flash and such. See for more information http://www.microsoft.com/SILVERLIGHT/ If a web site is using it, you will be asked to install what is needed. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -----Original Message----- From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beth Bowling Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 12:54 PM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: [COMPUTERS] : Microsoft Silverlight Has anyone used Microsoft Silverlight, and if so, what is it and how does it work? They also have announced a new "Photosynth" system which requires Silverlight. I would appreciate any information about these two that you can pass on. BB :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: If it's not immediately apparent, be sure to mention how your query relates to family research. Please don't post promotions of commercial products or services, and avoid mentioning prices. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I sent this about 7 hours agoo, but it hasn't appeared in my inbox yet, so here it is again. Sorry if you're getting it twice.

Hi ?? He doesn't need to google firefox, just send him the link http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/firefox/ If that causes problems, why don't you download it to CD and send it to him Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Can't do it because he needs to google firefox, once the google links > come up, when he clicks the link he needs, then he gets the 'cannot > display web page" error. The only way he can get back on the net is > by reset the modem, restarting, etc. Thanks.