Yes, I was on the right list. After I found out (not from the list) that FTM would not print to file and open in an editable program, I gedcommed everything into PAF and deleted FTM from my hard drive. I know it makes some fancy charts, but PAF does everything I need to do. There may be a new version of FTM that does what I wanted at the time. Lila > From: Bcompute123@aol.com > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:10:06 -0400 > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > > > > In a message dated 8/9/2009 7:00:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > lilagarner@hotmail.com writes: > > The FTM list is what I subbed to, and no one answered my plea > I belong to the list and I have never seen a question go without some kind > of reply. I wonder if you are really on the right list. > Bettye > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nivard, do you have a URL for PAF so that I can download the program? Steve in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > Its an odd thing that about the only program I ever see complaints about > is > FTM, I do wonder at times why people bother with it > > I will stick to PAF > > It does exactly what it says on the tin <vbg> > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> >> Yes, I was on the right list. After I found out (not from the list) that >> FTM would not print to file and open in an editable program, I gedcommed >> everything into PAF and deleted FTM from my hard drive. I know it makes >> some fancy charts, but PAF does everything I need to do. There may be a >> new version of FTM that does what I wanted at the time. >> >> Lila > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.50/2296 - Release Date: 08/11/09 06:10:00

In a message dated 8/9/2009 7:00:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lilagarner@hotmail.com writes: The FTM list is what I subbed to, and no one answered my plea I belong to the list and I have never seen a question go without some kind of reply. I wonder if you are really on the right list. Bettye

The FTM list is what I subbed to, and no one answered my plea. Later I found out that what I wanted to do is not possible with FTM, or was not with the version I had. I continue to use PAF, which allows pedigree charts and family group sheets to be edited in Word. Lila > Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:30:10 -0500 > From: bselig@gmail.com > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > > The tech list for FTM is just that - technical. I think most here would > do much better on the other rootsweb FTM list:FTM-request@rootsweb.com. > Some of the same experts are on bith lists bit the rregular FTM list is > much easier to understand. > Bonnie

Hi Lila, Me too since I'm about to join it! Regards Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lila Garner" <lilagarner@hotmail.com> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > > "TECH" was not part of name of the mailing list I subbed to--I'm glad > there's a list that helps now. Lila > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: pavipond@centurytel.net >> To: computers@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:19:12 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem >> >> Hi Judith >> >> Type the name and then a comma and then JR >> >> Herman Dale Bishop. JR >> >> You can join the Family Treemaker list by e-mail. >> >> send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word subscribe >> in the subject and body of the message. >> >> It is a great mailing list where we all learn a lot about FTM >> >> Peggy >> >> >>> Hi Listers, >>> >>> Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone >>> tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] >>> show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name? >> >> >> >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Donald, Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have a look at it. Regards Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Thompson" <hdthomps@pris.ca> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > Down load Brother's Keeper it is easy to use and is very reliable. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith" <judith.bn@bigpond.com> > To: <computers@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:57 AM > Subject: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone >> tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] >> show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name? I have tried >> Editing Facts and typing that into the Title on the >> Facts page and clicking okay, but that simply >> puts Junior in front of the name in the Genealogy >> Report and nothing shows up in Family Group Sheet >> or Outline Descendant View which is where I want >> it to. Obviously I am not doing something right here. >> >> Regards >> Judith >> >> >> >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Stan, No, apparently it's because I needed to put a comma after the surname. It doesnt matter what you type after that! Regards Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanley M. Berkner" <smberkner@yahoo.com> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > > Could it be because the customary abbreviations are Jr. and Sr. ? > Stan B. > . . . > > > --- On Sat, 8/8/09, Judith <judith.bn@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> From: Judith <judith.bn@bigpond.com> >> Subject: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem >> To: computers@rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:57 AM >> Hi Listers, >> >> Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone >> tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] >> show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name? I have tried >> Editing Facts and typing that into the Title on the >> Facts page and clicking okay, but that simply >> puts Junior in front of the name in the Genealogy >> Report and nothing shows up in Family Group Sheet >> or Outline Descendant View which is where I want >> it to. Obviously I am not doing something right >> here. >> >> Regards >> Judith > > > > > > >

Hi Peggy, I had just discovered that after belatedly googling this afternoon but I will certainly join the FTM list, thanks for the link, it is much appreciated. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Ann Vipond" <pavipond@centurytel.net> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > Hi Judith > > Type the name and then a comma and then JR > > Herman Dale Bishop. JR > > You can join the Family Treemaker list by e-mail. > > send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word > subscribe in the subject and body of the message. > > It is a great mailing list where we all learn a lot about FTM > > Peggy > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone >> tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] >> show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name? > > >

Hi Listers, It turned out to be quite simple. Just put a comma after the surname before adding Jnr, Snr or any other title you need. Eg John Jones, Jnr which is then recorded in the index as Jones, John, Jnr Regards Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith" <judith.bn@bigpond.com> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:27 PM Subject: Family Treemaker problem > Hi Listers, > > Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone > tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] > show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name? I have tried > Editing Facts and typing that into the Title on the > Facts page and clicking okay, but that simply > puts Junior in front of the name in the Genealogy > Report and nothing shows up in Family Group Sheet > or Outline Descendant View which is where I want > it to. Obviously I am not doing something right here. > > Regards > Judith >

The tech list for FTM is just that - technical. I think most here would do much better on the other rootsweb FTM list:FTM-request@rootsweb.com. Some of the same experts are on bith lists bit the rregular FTM list is much easier to understand. Bonnie

Down load Brother's Keeper it is easy to use and is very reliable. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith" <judith.bn@bigpond.com> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:57 AM Subject: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > Hi Listers, > > Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone > tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] > show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name? I have tried > Editing Facts and typing that into the Title on the > Facts page and clicking okay, but that simply > puts Junior in front of the name in the Genealogy > Report and nothing shows up in Family Group Sheet > or Outline Descendant View which is where I want > it to. Obviously I am not doing something right here. > > Regards > Judith > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't know but, in my program Sr. and Jr. are suffix's. (sp??) k --- On Sat, 8/8/09, Judith <judith.bn@bigpond.com> wrote: > From: Judith <judith.bn@bigpond.com> > Subject: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:57 AM Hi Listers, > > Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone tell me how to > make Family Treemaker [version 15] show Jnr. or Snr or II after a > name?  I have tried Editing Facts and typing that into the Title on > the Facts page and clicking okay,  but that simply puts Junior in > front of the name in the Genealogy Report and nothing shows up in > Family Group Sheet or Outline Descendant View which is where I want it > to.  Obviously I am not doing something right here. > > Regards > Judith :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name? I have tried Editing Facts and typing that into the Title on the Facts page and clicking okay, but that simply puts Junior in front of the name in the Genealogy Report and nothing shows up in Family Group Sheet or Outline Descendant View which is where I want it to. Obviously I am not doing something right here. Regards Judith

Could it be because the customary abbreviations are Jr. and Sr. ? Stan B. . . . --- On Sat, 8/8/09, Judith <judith.bn@bigpond.com> wrote: > From: Judith <judith.bn@bigpond.com> > Subject: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 6:57 AM > Hi Listers, > > Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone > tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] > show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name?  I have tried > Editing Facts and typing that into the Title on the > Facts page and clicking okay,  but that simply > puts Junior in front of the name in the Genealogy > Report and nothing shows up in Family Group Sheet > or Outline Descendant View which is where I want > it to.  Obviously I am not doing something right > here. > > Regards > Judith

"TECH" was not part of name of the mailing list I subbed to--I'm glad there's a list that helps now. Lila ---------------------------------------- > From: pavipond@centurytel.net > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:19:12 -0700 > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > > Hi Judith > > Type the name and then a comma and then JR > > Herman Dale Bishop. JR > > You can join the Family Treemaker list by e-mail. > > send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word subscribe > in the subject and body of the message. > > It is a great mailing list where we all learn a lot about FTM > > Peggy > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone >> tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] >> show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name? > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just my two cents--I tried FTM and needed support from the FTM list, but received no replies to my query. Lila > From: robowil@earthlink.net > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:17:31 -0700 > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > > I just typed Jr behind my name on my family page. It then > appeared correctly on both the reports you mentioned. > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:57 AM > Subject: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > > > : Hi Listers, > : > : Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone > : tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] > : show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name? I have tried > : Editing Facts and typing that into the Title on the > : Facts page and clicking okay, but that simply > : puts Junior in front of the name in the Genealogy > : Report and nothing shows up in Family Group Sheet > : or Outline Descendant View which is where I want > : it to. Obviously I am not doing something right here. > : > : Regards > : Judith > : > : > : > : > ::-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > : > : Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. > : > ::-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > : > : > : > : > : ------------------------------- > : To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > : > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judith You will probably get a reply here but if not there are lists for FTM Search find a mailing list for FTM Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Listers, > > Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone > tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] > show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name? I have tried > Editing Facts and typing that into the Title on the > Facts page and clicking okay, but that simply > puts Junior in front of the name in the Genealogy > Report and nothing shows up in Family Group Sheet > or Outline Descendant View which is where I want > it to. Obviously I am not doing something right here. > > Regards > Judith

Hi Judith Type the name and then a comma and then JR Herman Dale Bishop. JR You can join the Family Treemaker list by e-mail. send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word subscribe in the subject and body of the message. It is a great mailing list where we all learn a lot about FTM Peggy > Hi Listers, > > Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone > tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] > show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name?

I just typed Jr behind my name on my family page. It then appeared correctly on both the reports you mentioned. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith" <judith.bn@bigpond.com> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:57 AM Subject: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem : Hi Listers, : : Not sure if this is the right forum but can someone : tell me how to make Family Treemaker [version 15] : show Jnr. or Snr or II after a name? I have tried : Editing Facts and typing that into the Title on the : Facts page and clicking okay, but that simply : puts Junior in front of the name in the Genealogy : Report and nothing shows up in Family Group Sheet : or Outline Descendant View which is where I want : it to. Obviously I am not doing something right here. : : Regards : Judith : : : : ::-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: : : Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. : ::-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: : : : : : ------------------------------- : To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :

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