----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Cox" <jocox@hughes.net> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] USB hub question >I am plugging in a 4 gig sandisk finger drive? or flash drive? > >>From the way the computer reads I think it is telling me I have it plugged >>into a USB 1 socket. But > I understand that I am being told that I have USB 2.0 available. How can > I find out if that is the > case and if so, which one is it on the back of the computer? Everything computers changes, an gets faster and/or bigger. The original spec for USB was 12 megabits per second. That is called USB 1. Now, we have USB 2, which is 480 megabits per second. Even though many devices DON'T need te extra speed, Windows WILL tell you that you're not getting the best performance. I have MP3 files on a flash drive, so that I can play music all the time without stressing the hard drive, and the performance of USB1 is just fine for that (MP3s run at about 1Mbps). The USB 3 specs have just been finalized, so in a year or so, you'll get a warning to upgrade again, this time it's 5 gigabits per second. :)

What device are you plugging into this hub? It may be a USB 1 device, or the hub is a USB 1 type, or even the hub is plugged into a USB 1 socket on the computer. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jo Cox Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:32 PM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: [COMPUTERS] USB hub question I bought a USB hub that I can plug 4 USB plugs into. When I plug a device into it, I get this box popping up. "This USB device can perform fater if you connect it to a Hi-SPEED USB 2.0 port For a list of available ports click here" When I do that, I get "the USB mass storage device is a Hi-SPEED USB device and will function at reduced speed when plugged into a non Hi-sSPEED port." "the hubs shown in bold type have free ports that can support the HI-SPEED USB device" Then below that it shows: USB root hub (8 ports) then below that it shows 8 lines that say "unused port" My question, HOW CAN I TELL WHICH PORT ON THE BACK IS THE HIGH SPEED ONE? I DO NOT SEE ANYTHING WITH 8 PORTS. I tried plugging my hub into other places and I still get the same message when I plug anything into it. Please keep it as simple as possible as I am not very computer literate. Thanks, Jo :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I bought a USB hub that I can plug 4 USB plugs into. When I plug a device into it, I get this box popping up. "This USB device can perform fater if you connect it to a Hi-SPEED USB 2.0 port For a list of available ports click here" When I do that, I get "the USB mass storage device is a Hi-SPEED USB device and will function at reduced speed when plugged into a non Hi-sSPEED port." "the hubs shown in bold type have free ports that can support the HI-SPEED USB device" Then below that it shows: USB root hub (8 ports) then below that it shows 8 lines that say "unused port" My question, HOW CAN I TELL WHICH PORT ON THE BACK IS THE HIGH SPEED ONE? I DO NOT SEE ANYTHING WITH 8 PORTS. I tried plugging my hub into other places and I still get the same message when I plug anything into it. Please keep it as simple as possible as I am not very computer literate. Thanks, Jo

Hi Donald That depends on what sort of computer and what you have connected to it Whatever it is, its more than switching it off ! Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > If you leave your computer on how much power does it use compared to a 100 > watt light bulb.

Thanks Nivard Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] How Much!! > Hi Pam > > There has been an ongoing argument on the subject of whether to turn off > computers at night or when not in use for as long as I can remember > > A no brainer as far as I am concerned > > Anything you leave on will use more power and cost more than something you > turn off > > As money is hard to come by and the worlds resources are finite why waste > either I ask (I am not a greeny by the way) > > In terms of running cost, a tower or desk top will use more than a laptop > and a flat screen uses less than a CRT monitor > > Having had some problems with our power supplier and not trusting their > meters I bought a small device with calculates the power used and is > programmable with the unit cost and will therefore work out the running > costs of any plug in device > > I can't put my hand on my figures just now to give exacts unfortunately > but > there are plenty of discussions on the subject found with a google for > computer running costs > > The usual arguments against switching your computer or monitor off are :- > > It uses more power whilst booting up > (but as that takes a few minutes do not see that as a valid argument) > > It weakens components by switching on and off > (as I have seen no evidence of that personal or otherwise find it hard to > believe) > > I see no logical reason to leave anything on unless it is actually doing > something > > Another point that seems to be often missed is that many things particular > those using a transformer still draw power even when switched off, I have > my > computer, screen and all my peripherals into a multi block surge protected > socket which in turn is plugged into a remote plug, one button and > everything is off > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > >> If I leave my computer on all the time but turn off the screens at night >> how >> much more does it cost that to switch them off at night and on again in a >> morning?? we have been having an argument about it so please if someone >> could enlighten me please!!!! >> >> Pam > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks George Mines normally on from about 6am until about 11 pm so I leave it on all the time bit switch off the screens Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Elting" <justgeo1@comcast.net> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] How Much!! > It depends on the computer usage. If you use it for 6 to 8 hours a day, > switch it off when it's not in use. > > On the other hand, if it's used 18 hours a day or more, leave it on 24/7. > > -----Original Message----- > From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Pam > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:24 PM > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Subject: [COMPUTERS] How Much!! > > If I leave my computer on all the time but turn off the screens at night > how > > much more does it cost that to switch them off at night and on again in a > morning?? we have been having an argument about it so please if someone > could enlighten me please!!!! > > Pam > > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Donna All rootsweb lists can be found here http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ If you search for PAF you will find 6 lists I am on http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/PAF-5-USERS.html Which is probably the most used Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > What is the rootsweb PAF group address. Thank you > Donna dfbowen4645@att.net

Mine is on from 7am to about 4am... and in use... I leave it on 24/7 to do cloud computing and to collect email. -----Original Message----- From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:34 AM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] How Much!! Thanks George Mines normally on from about 6am until about 11 pm so I leave it on all the time bit switch off the screens Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Elting" <justgeo1@comcast.net> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] How Much!! > It depends on the computer usage. If you use it for 6 to 8 hours a day, > switch it off when it's not in use. > > On the other hand, if it's used 18 hours a day or more, leave it on 24/7. > > -----Original Message----- > From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Pam > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:24 PM > To: computers@rootsweb.com > Subject: [COMPUTERS] How Much!! > > If I leave my computer on all the time but turn off the screens at night > how > > much more does it cost that to switch them off at night and on again in a > morning?? we have been having an argument about it so please if someone > could enlighten me please!!!! > > Pam

Hi Pam There has been an ongoing argument on the subject of whether to turn off computers at night or when not in use for as long as I can remember A no brainer as far as I am concerned Anything you leave on will use more power and cost more than something you turn off As money is hard to come by and the worlds resources are finite why waste either I ask (I am not a greeny by the way) In terms of running cost, a tower or desk top will use more than a laptop and a flat screen uses less than a CRT monitor Having had some problems with our power supplier and not trusting their meters I bought a small device with calculates the power used and is programmable with the unit cost and will therefore work out the running costs of any plug in device I can't put my hand on my figures just now to give exacts unfortunately but there are plenty of discussions on the subject found with a google for computer running costs The usual arguments against switching your computer or monitor off are :- It uses more power whilst booting up (but as that takes a few minutes do not see that as a valid argument) It weakens components by switching on and off (as I have seen no evidence of that personal or otherwise find it hard to believe) I see no logical reason to leave anything on unless it is actually doing something Another point that seems to be often missed is that many things particular those using a transformer still draw power even when switched off, I have my computer, screen and all my peripherals into a multi block surge protected socket which in turn is plugged into a remote plug, one button and everything is off Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > If I leave my computer on all the time but turn off the screens at night > how > much more does it cost that to switch them off at night and on again in a > morning?? we have been having an argument about it so please if someone > could enlighten me please!!!! > > Pam

If you leave your computer on how much power does it use compared to a 100 watt light bulb.

I started turning off my computer at night, including the DSL modem, and my electrical bill went down almost $20 a month...that was 5 months ago. My utility company which had me on a budget plan of $140 a month recently reduced that to holding out $95 a month (for the 12 mos and then it covers ups and downs of seasonal needs). Huge savings and nothing else changed in my household. I also have started pulling plugs of all TVs and any other 'phantom' electrical source and expect it to go down even more. Also, my local computer shop contact said I can expect my computer and monitor to last 3x's longer because of turning it off. I keep it off except when I am using it which is about 3-5 hours at night and occasionally for a 1/2 hour in the morning. Jayne Madison, WI > If I leave my computer on all the time but turn off the > screens much more does it cost that to switch them off at > night and > on again in a > morning??

What is the rootsweb PAF group address. Thank you Donna dfbowen4645@att.net

If I leave my computer on all the time but turn off the screens at night how much more does it cost that to switch them off at night and on again in a morning?? we have been having an argument about it so please if someone could enlighten me please!!!! Pam

Hi Steve Go to :- Familysearch > Library > Key Resources Scroll down to Salt Lake Distribution Center (link) > Software downloads You will find there is the latest PAF and an add on called PAF Companion for reports PAF Companion has a free version with limited print capabilities and a paid version which gives access to the full version You can buy it on CD which comes with PAF for the paltry sum of 8.25 USD I bought it on CD which to me in England was about 6gbp if I recall correctly At some point PAF will be discontinued, I presume the LDS will go the way of some sort of online tree as others have done, as I cannot recall ever needing support for PAF I would think I will be using PAF for as long as I need to and in any event you can always export a gedcom and import it into any other program should you want to There is also a PAF list on rootsweb I have tried many programs and find PAF by far the best Perhaps others have more bells and whistles but those are little used and somewhat pointless in my book Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Nivard, do you have a URL for PAF so that I can download the program? > > Steve in Florida

It depends, but it's enough to be worth turning off. However, the main consideration is not power consumption, but safety. I once had my desktop computer CATCH FIRE. Thankfully, I was sitting at the computer and saw the smoke streaming out of the tower, so I could turn it off. Prior to that incident, I had been in the habit of leaving my home computer on 24/7. I now turn it off whenever I go to bed or leave the house. Diana > If I leave my computer on all the time but turn off the > screens at night how > much more does it cost that to switch them off at night and > on again in a > morning?? we have been having an argument about it so please > if someone > could enlighten me please!!!! > > Pam > >

It depends on the computer usage. If you use it for 6 to 8 hours a day, switch it off when it's not in use. On the other hand, if it's used 18 hours a day or more, leave it on 24/7. -----Original Message----- From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pam Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:24 PM To: computers@rootsweb.com Subject: [COMPUTERS] How Much!! If I leave my computer on all the time but turn off the screens at night how much more does it cost that to switch them off at night and on again in a morning?? we have been having an argument about it so please if someone could enlighten me please!!!! Pam

I didn't see a reply to your question, I'm not Nivard but when I started PAF I downloaded it from www.familysearch.org It is free and it is on the LDS site. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Offutt" <soffutt42@embarqmail.com> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem Nivard, do you have a URL for PAF so that I can download the program? Steve in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <computers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Family Treemaker problem > Its an odd thing that about the only program I ever see complaints about > is > FTM, I do wonder at times why people bother with it > > I will stick to PAF > > It does exactly what it says on the tin <vbg> > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > >> >> Yes, I was on the right list. After I found out (not from the list) that >> FTM would not print to file and open in an editable program, I gedcommed >> everything into PAF and deleted FTM from my hard drive. I know it makes >> some fancy charts, but PAF does everything I need to do. There may be a >> new version of FTM that does what I wanted at the time. >> >> Lila > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.50/2296 - Release Date: 08/11/09 06:10:00 :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Take pity on Digest subscribers and remember to SNIP when replying. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COMPUTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just Google PAF download > Nivard, do you have a URL for PAF so that I can download the program? > > Steve in Florida

Dead right, Nivard, PAF is 'formidable' Bob Platten, Paris. -----Original Message----- From: computers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:computers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington

Its an odd thing that about the only program I ever see complaints about is FTM, I do wonder at times why people bother with it I will stick to PAF It does exactly what it says on the tin <vbg> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Yes, I was on the right list. After I found out (not from the list) that > FTM would not print to file and open in an editable program, I gedcommed > everything into PAF and deleted FTM from my hard drive. I know it makes > some fancy charts, but PAF does everything I need to do. There may be a > new version of FTM that does what I wanted at the time. > > Lila