In a message dated 12/6/2011 6:54:00 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I've had this happen. As I recall, and you can Google it, the only > solution was to disable system restore, thus erasing all restore > points, restart and enable system restore. > Vanessa > Vanessa, thanks. I'll try that. Sara

Hi Lila As I said previously. it was not something I looked for, it in fact found me <g> But as far as I recall it did a scan for all photos when I started Picasa for the first time and gave the option to add names See <http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en-GB&answer=156272&ctx=cb&src=cb&cbid=601ry9xhglfb> It does not alrer the original but keeps its own copy with your changes or annotations Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > Thanks for all the interest about my dilemma. I looked at Picassa and evidently don't understand > terminology or something...I just didn't see what I was looking for. > > Can someone give baby steps so I an compare a picture of a (known) great-grandmother aged perhaps > 55, with an unlabeled photo of an aged woman? > > I know some of you guys see 55 as aged, but the older I get the older "aged" is. :-) > > Lila

Thanks for all the interest about my dilemma. I looked at Picassa and evidently don't understand terminology or something...I just didn't see what I was looking for. Can someone give baby steps so I an compare a picture of a (known) great-grandmother aged perhaps 55, with an unlabeled photo of an aged woman? I know some of you guys see 55 as aged, but the older I get the older "aged" is. :-) Lila > From: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:14:36 -0500 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Photo comparison software > > Been watching your conversation with interest as I have a picture of my > grand mother (I think) at a young age, maybe 12 or so and would like to > compare it with later pictures of her. Didn't know there was such a program that > could do that. The picture was found in the attic of a house that she lived > in during the 1930s-40s. . I used to have Picasa but since my computer was > reformatted a year ago, just haven't downloaded it yet. Thanks for the info > Nancy > > > In a message dated 12/7/2011 12:43:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hi Kevin > > Although I have reservations about the security of such data, the way I > look at this is that the > only ones who should have something to worry about are the guilty > > Of course our movements (or at least a great many of our movements) can > already be traced via mobile > phone signal and computer / smart phone usage > > Is big brother watching us? > > Quite likely and probably has been for much longer than we think but that > works both ways and may > prove a person was not in a certain place > > If the technology of facial recognition helps put offenders behind bars > all to the good, and the > knock on advances in that technology benefits some researchers to identify > great uncle Fred so much > the better > > What next I wonder, cloning great great grandmother ? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > Thanks Nivard, > > > > I find the technology fascinating and a little worrying, given the > > applications available in the "real world". I believe the authorities > > have used this technology for identifying persons in the G20 debacle > > last year here in Toronto, Canada. So I worry about privacy issues > > going forward. Will we all have to hide our faces when we go in > > public or will they also find a way to track our body movement or > > "body language" as well? The use of Technology is only as good as the > > hands it lands in !!! > > > > Regards, > > Kevin. > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on > the list. > > Remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. > > Remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Nancy Frankly it came as a surprise to me when I found it could do it <g> It was not the reason I looked at Picasa but an interesting by product of using it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Been watching your conversation with interest as I have a picture of my > grand mother (I think) at a young age, maybe 12 or so and would like to > compare it with later pictures of her. Didn't know there was such a program that > could do that. The picture was found in the attic of a house that she lived > in during the 1930s-40s. . I used to have Picasa but since my computer was > reformatted a year ago, just haven't downloaded it yet. Thanks for the info > Nancy

Hi Kevin Although I have reservations about the security of such data, the way I look at this is that the only ones who should have something to worry about are the guilty Of course our movements (or at least a great many of our movements) can already be traced via mobile phone signal and computer / smart phone usage Is big brother watching us? Quite likely and probably has been for much longer than we think but that works both ways and may prove a person was not in a certain place If the technology of facial recognition helps put offenders behind bars all to the good, and the knock on advances in that technology benefits some researchers to identify great uncle Fred so much the better What next I wonder, cloning great great grandmother ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Thanks Nivard, > > I find the technology fascinating and a little worrying, given the > applications available in the "real world". I believe the authorities > have used this technology for identifying persons in the G20 debacle > last year here in Toronto, Canada. So I worry about privacy issues > going forward. Will we all have to hide our faces when we go in > public or will they also find a way to track our body movement or > "body language" as well? The use of Technology is only as good as the > hands it lands in !!! > > Regards, > Kevin.

Hi Kevin I confess its not of primary concern to me so have not really studied its function to any depth however I found it uncannily accurate in matching most photo's of the same person, young and old If it doesn't get the right person it usually matches a sibling or a parent I found Exactly how accurate it could be I can't say but found it relatively reliable with my photo's Of course it did throw up a few oddities but that is to be expected Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard, > > I don't use Picasa for my photos, opting to use Adobe Lightroom and > Adobe Photoshop. > > In your experience, how does the Face Recognition in Picasa handle the > aging of a person? Does the recognition get steadily worse or does it > update its database as time goes on ? > > Regards, > Kevin.

Nothing... that I know of ! Similar to most who were arrested during the G20 in Toronto... Nothing... The technology begged to differ, though... Good thing that a HUMAN had the final say ! On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Bud Jamison <[email protected]> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Ross" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:48 AM > Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Photo comparison software > > >> Thanks Nivard, >> >> I find the technology fascinating and a little worrying, given the >> applications available in the "real world".  I believe the authorities >> have used this technology for identifying persons in the G20 debacle >> last year here in Toronto, Canada. So I worry about privacy issues >> going forward.  Will we all have to hide our faces when we go in >> public or will they also find a way to track our body movement or >> "body language" as well? The use of Technology is only as good as the >> hands it lands in !!! > > > So, what have YOU DONE that you'd think you need to hide in public?? > > > > > > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. > > Remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross [email protected]

Please let us know how successful you are with this, Nancy ! Regards, Kevin. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:14 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Been watching your conversation with interest as I have a picture of my > grand mother (I think) at a young age, maybe 12 or so and would like to > compare  it with later pictures of her. Didn't know there was such a program that > could  do that. The picture was found in the attic of a house that she lived > in during  the 1930s-40s. . I used to have Picasa but since my computer was > reformatted a  year ago, just haven't downloaded it yet. Thanks for the info > Nancy > > > In a message dated 12/7/2011 12:43:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hi  Kevin > > Although I have reservations about the security of such data, the  way I > look at this is that the > only ones who should have something to  worry about are the guilty > > Of course our movements (or at least a great  many of our movements) can > already be traced via mobile > phone signal and  computer / smart phone usage > > Is big brother watching us? > > Quite  likely and probably has been for much longer than we think but that > works both  ways and may > prove a person was not in a certain place > > If the  technology of facial recognition helps put offenders behind bars > all to the  good, and the > knock on advances in that technology benefits some  researchers to identify > great uncle Fred so much > the better > > What  next I wonder, cloning great great grandmother ? > > Nivard Ovington in  Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > Thanks Nivard, > > > > I find  the technology fascinating and a little worrying, given the > >  applications available in the "real world".  I believe the  authorities > > have used this technology for identifying persons in the  G20 debacle > > last year here in Toronto, Canada. So I worry about  privacy issues > > going forward.  Will we all have to hide our faces  when we go in > > public or will they also find a way to track our body  movement or > > "body language" as well? The use of Technology is only as  good as the > > hands it lands in !!! > > > > Regards, > >  Kevin. > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please  refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on > the list. > > Remember to SNIP when  replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes  in the subject > and the body of the  message > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. > > Remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross [email protected]

Been watching your conversation with interest as I have a picture of my grand mother (I think) at a young age, maybe 12 or so and would like to compare it with later pictures of her. Didn't know there was such a program that could do that. The picture was found in the attic of a house that she lived in during the 1930s-40s. . I used to have Picasa but since my computer was reformatted a year ago, just haven't downloaded it yet. Thanks for the info Nancy In a message dated 12/7/2011 12:43:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Kevin Although I have reservations about the security of such data, the way I look at this is that the only ones who should have something to worry about are the guilty Of course our movements (or at least a great many of our movements) can already be traced via mobile phone signal and computer / smart phone usage Is big brother watching us? Quite likely and probably has been for much longer than we think but that works both ways and may prove a person was not in a certain place If the technology of facial recognition helps put offenders behind bars all to the good, and the knock on advances in that technology benefits some researchers to identify great uncle Fred so much the better What next I wonder, cloning great great grandmother ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Thanks Nivard, > > I find the technology fascinating and a little worrying, given the > applications available in the "real world". I believe the authorities > have used this technology for identifying persons in the G20 debacle > last year here in Toronto, Canada. So I worry about privacy issues > going forward. Will we all have to hide our faces when we go in > public or will they also find a way to track our body movement or > "body language" as well? The use of Technology is only as good as the > hands it lands in !!! > > Regards, > Kevin. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. Remember to SNIP when replying. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Nivard, I find the technology fascinating and a little worrying, given the applications available in the "real world". I believe the authorities have used this technology for identifying persons in the G20 debacle last year here in Toronto, Canada. So I worry about privacy issues going forward. Will we all have to hide our faces when we go in public or will they also find a way to track our body movement or "body language" as well? The use of Technology is only as good as the hands it lands in !!! Regards, Kevin. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Kevin > > I confess its not of primary concern to me so have not really studied its function to any depth > however I found it uncannily accurate in matching most photo's of the same person, young and old > > If it doesn't get the right person it usually matches a sibling or a parent I found > > Exactly how accurate it could be I can't say but found it relatively reliable with my photo's > > Of course it did throw up a few oddities but that is to be expected > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > Hi Nivard, > > > > I don't use Picasa for my photos, opting to use Adobe Lightroom and > > Adobe Photoshop. > > > > In your experience, how does the Face Recognition in Picasa handle the > > aging of a person?  Does the recognition get steadily worse or does it > > update its database as time goes on ? > > > > Regards, > > Kevin. > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. > > Remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross [email protected]

Hi Nivard, I don't use Picasa for my photos, opting to use Adobe Lightroom and Adobe Photoshop. In your experience, how does the Face Recognition in Picasa handle the aging of a person? Does the recognition get steadily worse or does it update its database as time goes on ? Regards, Kevin. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Lila > > Picasa will do just as you suggest it will, the results are quite interesting and fairly accurate if > mine are anything to go by > > And Picasa is free, given that all you would get from anyone or anywhere is an opinion or educated > guess, nothing more, I would suggest that you try Picasa first > > No one will be able to say accurately if the two photo's are the same person > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > I think I read somewhere about a program that will compare two photos--such as in youth and > > middle/old age--and make an assessment about whether the photos are the same person. > > > > Does anyone know about this? Since I only need one guess, is there someone to whom I can send > > scans and pay for an opinion? > > > > Someone told me that Picasa will do this, but what I read at the website makes me think that it > > won't. > > > > Lila > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. > > Remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- -------- K. Ross [email protected]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Ross" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [COMPUTERS] Photo comparison software > Thanks Nivard, > > I find the technology fascinating and a little worrying, given the > applications available in the "real world". I believe the authorities > have used this technology for identifying persons in the G20 debacle > last year here in Toronto, Canada. So I worry about privacy issues > going forward. Will we all have to hide our faces when we go in > public or will they also find a way to track our body movement or > "body language" as well? The use of Technology is only as good as the > hands it lands in !!! So, what have YOU DONE that you'd think you need to hide in public??

Hi Lila Picasa will do just as you suggest it will, the results are quite interesting and fairly accurate if mine are anything to go by And Picasa is free, given that all you would get from anyone or anywhere is an opinion or educated guess, nothing more, I would suggest that you try Picasa first No one will be able to say accurately if the two photo's are the same person Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I think I read somewhere about a program that will compare two photos--such as in youth and > middle/old age--and make an assessment about whether the photos are the same person. > > Does anyone know about this? Since I only need one guess, is there someone to whom I can send > scans and pay for an opinion? > > Someone told me that Picasa will do this, but what I read at the website makes me think that it > won't. > > Lila

I think I read somewhere about a program that will compare two photos--such as in youth and middle/old age--and make an assessment about whether the photos are the same person. Does anyone know about this? Since I only need one guess, is there someone to whom I can send scans and pay for an opinion? Someone told me that Picasa will do this, but what I read at the website makes me think that it won't. Lila

What you are referring to is facial recognition and Picasa does this as does, apparently, Facebook. Not sure if there are online resources? More info here... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_recognition_system On Tuesday, December 6, 2011, Lila Garner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I think I read somewhere about a program that will compare two photos--such as in youth and middle/old age--and make an assessment about whether the photos are the same person. > > Does anyone know about this? Since I only need one guess, is there someone to whom I can send scans and pay for an opinion? > > Someone told me that Picasa will do this, but what I read at the website makes me think that it won't. > > Lila > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Please refrain from posting commercial URLs and from discussing prices on the list. > > Remember to SNIP when replying. > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -------- K. Ross [email protected]

This reply has gone to COMPUTERS as well as Jaj. When I clicked on Reply his address came up and not COMPUTERS. I added COMPUTERS. On 12/6/2011 11:37 AM, 2626_djg wrote: > > bob. > > it sounds like you need to get on amazon and order another > cartrdige. I have done that but there should be many more copies in the old one based on the > > u can shake the existing onee reallly vigorusly with no hsrm but i > suspect your going to need to get another very soon.. > > * i have bought quite s few toner cartridges from non oem sellers on > amaszon with great results. > > i have not as yet tried a toner refill kit myself but have seen many > reports of success, I am not contemplating refilling the cartridge > > jaj,apparently you have the Reply To: field in your Microsoft > Outook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Email Accounts filled in. In spite of what MS says or does not say, you do not need this field filled in unless you want to receive email at a different address than you are sending from, which your message source does not show. Also does not OE6 have a spell check? You should use it. bob gillis

I purchased a laser printer cartridge from Del quite some time ago. It has worked find until two weeks ago. Now the pages come out with faint or blank spot down the middle. I have taken the cartridge out and tapped it with the handle of a screw driver to loosen the toner. There is still plenty of toner left in the cartridge. It helps for a few copies and then the faintness come back. Any suggestions on how to loosen up the toner. bob gillis PS, does anyone know or remember who makes this printer.

Hi Sara Are you sure you have the date right ? You would normally restore to a day or so back, a week at a push Why did you want to restore to nine years back, even if it were possible When you go to restore is that the only date option? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Have Windows XP Home Edition, SP3, and am unable to successfully execute > System Restore. Get message: Restoration incomplete. Your computer > cannot be restored to Saturday, Dec 3, 2002. System checkpoint. > > I have tried several earlier restore points; none worked. > > Is there a simple corrective solution? > > Thanks, Sara

I've had this happen. As I recall, and you can Google it, the only solution was to disable system restore, thus erasing all restore points, restart and enable system restore. Vanessa At 11:22 AM 12/5/2011, you wrote: >In a message dated 12/5/2011 9:45:19 AM Central Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > > > Why did you want to restore to nine years back, even if it were possible > > > >Sorry about typo; date was 3 Dec 2011.

In a message dated 12/5/2011 9:45:19 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Why did you want to restore to nine years back, even if it were possible > Sorry about typo; date was 3 Dec 2011.