In regards to Reuben Collins and wife Monica Duren and the Collins Bible. A lot of research on this family was done by James Oren Collins of Lytle,  TX. James rescued the Collins Bible and he and my cousin once removed (CW Collins) both did DNA tests and have matches to the well known Maidstone Collins line,  which originates in Maidstone,  Kent,  England in 1569. Once you get to back to Reuben and the will of his father William Collins,  you have a ton of information on the web for this Collins line back to England although the date details are at odds for one researcher to another. To this extent,  some today try to take mismatched records for a similar name and tie it to Reuben to prove Scotch or Irish connections. There are way too many DNA connections for true parallel lines to drift far from the connection to Kent,  England,  then King and Queen Co,  Va then Kershaw Co SC. The Maidstone line is very narrow so be careful when following suggestions that it is a broad river of names,  families and locations all tied to that Bible. -------- Original message -------- From: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> Date: 04/04/2013 12:47 PM (GMT-06:00) To: collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. Our Timothy Collins b1754 came from London England and settled first in MD then PA 1800. DG ________________________________ From: "GLSGAB@aol.com" <GLSGAB@aol.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, April 4, 2013 9:27:46 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. >From the Family Bible; From an old letter in the original Reuben  Collins Bible: "Thomas L. Collins had red hair and his wife Winefred was very dark  and Dutch and spake very broken English. I can remember my father telling me  that they (Walters Family) first settled in York, Pennsylvania and from there to Spartanburg County, SC but my father says they settled first in the southern  part of NC (Perhaps Anson Co.)" The middle name of Thomas was Duren.  He was  nicknamed "LeNove", in French "the last" (he was the last child of Reuben  Collins & Monica Duren). I have that the Duren's who intermarried with  the Collins were French Huguenots. Living in England before immigrating to the  Colonies.  Since the Family Bible has written in it Thomas Collins had  red hair, I think that is a good indication he was of Irish (or Scotch) descent.  It is also on his war records. 6' 1, Red Hair, Blue  eyes. Grace S. Green In a message dated 4/4/2013 9:02:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  rcoll@bellsouth.net writes: The  Collins surname is a very diverse group.  In my searching I have  found that the surname is as often English or Scotch as it is Irish.   I have even found a French Collins (from Normandy area of  France). Roger Collins ================= On 04/04/2013 11:30  AM, sanders922@comcast.net wrote: > > Jo: > > Sorry I  can't help you with your search. > > > > But can you  tell me if the surname Collins is Irish > > or is it also from  England and Scotland? > > > > I have my Collins line  back to the 1600s in Virginia > > and had assumed they came from  England. > >  Alice > > ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in  the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message