Wow! I definitely appreciate all the work and research you did. That is alot to digest. The Mary Collins that he married before Rachel Duty was, I believe, also the child of Aaron Collins...or at least an Aaron Collins. Thank you so much. I'll start looking at Jaernigan Collins. ---- Roger Collins <rcoll@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Hi, > > This is not my Collins line, but I thought I would take a look. > > Starting with the 1900 census Jacob is head of household living with his > son Marion in Shannon County, Missouri. He gives his birth as Oct. 1853 > (but earlier census records list him as born in the 1840s). He is > divorced. His children with him are unmarried. > > 1900 Census: Missouri, Shannon County, Winona Township > > Collins, Jacob (Oct 1853, age 46) Mo Ind Ind > ----Marion (son) (March 1878, age 22) Ark Mo Ark > ----Aaron (son) (Nov. 1880, age 19) Ark Mo Ark > ----Ellen (dgtr) (May 1882, age 17) Ark Mo Ark > ----Sarah (dgtr) (April 1885, age 15) Ark Mo Ark > > I found online the death certificate for Francis Marion Collins (born > March 31, 1879, Arkansas; died Dec. 26, 1938, Birch Tree, Shannon > County, Missouri). It states that his father was Jacob Collins. > > Missouri Digital Heritage can be found at: > > http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/ > > =============== > > Following that lead, I looked in the 1880 census for Arkansas and found > Francis Marion in the household of Jacob and Rachel Collins in Fulton > County, Arkansas: > > 1880 Census: Arkansas, Fulton County, Myatt Township > > Coolins, John 40 Mo Ind Ind > Rudah 29 Mo Mo Ind > Alexander 14 Ark Mo Mo > Martha B. 7 ditto > Mary Ann 4 > Joseph 2 > Rose 7mo > Henson, Milly (sister) 37 Mo -- Ind > > > > Dwelling 63 > > Collins, Joseph 22 Mo Ill -- laborer > Melissia 18 Mo -- -- > > > Dwelling 64 > > Collins, Jacob 34 Ind Ind Ind Farmer (Born ca. > 1846) > Rachal 34 Ark Mo Ind > James W. 13 Ark Mo Ind > Eliza J. 11 Ark Mo Ind > Malindia 9 Ark Mo Ind > Nancy J. 6 Ark Mo Ind > Francis M. 2 Ark Mo Ind > > ============== > I found an Arkansas marriage index that states that Jacob Collins and > Mrs. Rachel Jones were married May 12, 1877, in Lawrence County, > Arkansas. So it would appear that Rachel would be Francis Marion's mother. > > I also find in that marriage index where Rachel Duty married Mathew > Jones on Dec. 26, 1866, in Lawrence County, Arkansas. The children > (James W., Eliza J., Malindia, and Nancy J. could possibly be her > children from the Jones marriage. It would not seem that they could be > Jacob's children from his marriage to Mary, because those children are > found in the 1880 census for Douglas County, Missouri, in the household > of "Polly" Collins: > > 1880 Census: Missouri, Douglas County, Richland Township (ED # 30) > > Collins, Polly (age 35) Missouri / Indiana / Indiana > ----William (age 14) Mo Mo Mo > ----Vandalia (age 10) Mo Mo Mo > ----Amerian E. (age 8) Mo Mo Mo > > NOTE: Is "Polly" Jacob's first wife Mary? Here "Polly" is listed as > "widowed" (If she were divorced, the census taker would write a "D" in > the designated column.) > > ============ > > Tracking back to the 1870 census, we find Jacob and Mary Collins in > Texas County, Missouri: > > > 1870 Census: Missouri, Texas County, Wood and Richland > (PO: Houston) > > > Dwelling 77 > Collins, Jacob 21 Mo (Born ca. 1849) > Mary 24 Mo > William 4 Mo > Vandaly 2mo Mo > > ================ > This is the earliest entry I can find for "Jacob Collins." But going > back to the 1880 census in Arkansas, he is living near a John Collins > (written as "Coolins"). There we have the following: > > John Collins (b. ca. 1840 Mo/Ind/Ind) > Millie Collins Henson (his sister) (b. ca. 1843, Mo/--/Ind) > Joseph Collins (b. ca. 1858 Mo / Ill / --- > and > Jacob Collins (b. ca. 1846 Ind / Ind / Ind) > > Going back to the 1850 census to look for these people, we finally zero > in on the household of Aaron Collins in Ozark County, Missouri. > (Incidentally, there are a total of three Aaron Collinses on the same > census page. > > 1850 Census: Missouri, Ozark County > > Collins, Aaron (age 39, Kentucky) > ----Ann (age 37, Ky) > ----Mary (age 17, Ind) > ----Rachel (age 15, Ind) > ----Mahala (age 13, Mo) > ----Luanda (age 11, Mo) > ----JOHN (age 9, Mo) > ----MILLEY (age 7, Mo) > ----JAERNIGAN (age 5, Mo) > ----Timothy (age 1, Mo) > > One possibility is that "Jaernigan" is Jacob. (Jaernigan (Jarnigan) is > a surname, but it would be used as a given name at times.) The John and > Milley here would seem to be the same who turn up in Fulton County, > Arkansas, in 1880. Also note, that while Aaron Collins states in the > census he was born in Kentucky, his oldest children were born in > Indiana. So it's possible (if Aaron were his father) that in later > years Jacob could think his parents came from Indiana. > > ================= > > Following Aaron's household to the 1860 census, they have now moved to > Douglas County, Missouri. The "JOSEPH" in dwelling 354 could be the > Joseph in Fulton County, Arkansas in 1880. And in dwelling 359 we find > John, Milly, and JUNIGAN. > > > 1860 Census: Missouri, Douglas County > > > Dwelling 354 > > Collins, Aron 27 Ind > Louiza J. 35 Ky > Elizabeth 5 Mo > JOSEPH 2 Mo > Stephen 1mo Mo > > Dwelling 355 > > Collins, Stephen 55 Ky > Mary 60 Ky > David 25 Ind > Stephen 21 Mo > Henry 16 -- > > Dwelling 356 > > Collins, James 32 Ind > Sealy 24 Ind > Rebeca A. 5 Mo > Nancy 2 Mo > > > Dwelling 357 > > Collins, Samuel 30 Ind > Anna 21 Ind > Nancy A. 3 Mo > Polly J. 1mo Mo > > > Dwelling 359 > > Collins, ARON 52 Ky > Anna 48 Ky > Rachel 25 Ind > Mahala 23 Mo > Lucinda 21 Mo > JOHN 19 Mo > MILLY 17 Mo > JUNIGAN 15 Mo (male) > Timothy 13 Mo > Benjamin 10 Mo > Morgans 7 Mo > Enly 6 Mo (male) > Malesa 4 Mo > Stephen 2 Mo > Barnetta 1mo Mo (female) > > ================ > Moving on to 1870 census, Aaron's household is now in Lawrence County, > Arkansas. > > 1870 Census: Arkansas, Lawrence County, Campbell > > > Collins, Arey 62 Ky > Anna 50 Ky > Timothy 22 Mo > Benjamin 19 Mo > Morgan 17 Mo > Rachel 30 Ind > Lucinda 24 Mo > MILLIE 24 Mo > > John Collins and wife Rhoda are on Duty Township, Lawrence County, Arkansas. > > Jarnigan ("Jaernigan") Collins can not be found. Jarnigan can not be > found after 1860, Jacob can not be found before 1870. And in 1870, > Jacob Collins is in Texas County, Missouri, with wife Mary. > > =============== > Hope this helps, or at least gives a good lead. > > Roger Collins > > > > > > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: rtcollins<rtcollins@cox.net> > >> To: COLLINS<COLLINS@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Wed, Jun 15, 2011 8:47 pm > >> Subject: [COLLINS] Jacob Collins, Missouri > >> > >> > >> Hello all! I am on what seems tio be a very difficult quest. I am searching for > >> nformation on where my great great grandfather Jacob Collins b. 1846-1853 > >> inona, Shannon Co., Missouri came from lineage wise. I know that he was married > >> o a Mary Collins and later married a Rachel Duty. My great grandfather was > >> rancis Marion Collins. > >> I have a bunch of information gathered from various sources and one is a > >> andwritten note that says that he was the brother of Isaiah Collins(son of > >> armon) and can thus can be traced back to David Collins 1750. However, I do not > >> ee any brothers of Isaiah with the name of Jacob. This leads me to the > >> onclusion that Jacob is not the first name and may instead be his middle name. > >> Also, would Harmon Collins and previous Collins of that line be considered > >> Melungeon"? As a kid my father always thought we were Irish. Thansk for any > >> elp! > >> E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > >> > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message