If you don't have any idea of the accuracy of this information, why in the world would you dump this much garbage out there? Wouldn't be a better idea just to wait to see if anyone is interested in this guesswork and then send it to them privately? -----Original Message----- From: DITTOBYTE <DITTOBYTE@aol.com> To: COLLINS-L@rootsweb.com <COLLINS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, April 25, 1998 7:29 PM Subject: Here is some stuff I found on Collins Okay everyone, All of these listings has got me motivated to try and put some of this stuff together. I have been trying since yesterday to index what I have, which is no easy feat. We have several Collins lines with the dates way off. The names are all the same, but dates are not together. Anyway, I am trying. When I get this stuff done, I will email what I have to the list. Please keep in mind that what I have is from listings of other people, and has not been researched by me. If it has been I will let you know. As always, take the information with a grain of salt, and hopefully it will lead you in another direction which will give you some results. Here are some bible records I found in a file through the Family research center here in San Antonio, Tx: Copy of an Old Bible belonging to Reuben Collins who lived acorss the line of Kershaw in Fairfield Co., SC. This Bible was bought in Ireland ands is now owned by a gentleman living in Monterey, Cal. The following was written in old Englis scropt and had to be deciphered with the use of a magnifying glass. This from Mrs. Dudley Conner 109 13 Ave. Hattiesburg, MS. Reuben Collins b 1758 d 8 Oct 1830 Monaca Collins (nee Duren) no dates on her. List of Children: 1) Elizabeth Collins b 27 July 1783 md) ? Sanders 2) Marable Collins (Twin to Elizabeth above, and also a male) b 27 July 1783 3) Susanner Collins b 16 Dec 1785 4) Jesse (Tepe) Collins b 16 Dec 1790 5) Lewis Collins b 18 Jan 1793 6) Bartlet Collins b 8 July 1797 7) Thomas D. Collins b 22 June 1803 Okay, I show the parents of Reuben Collins to be William Collins b? d 1792 SC his will probated 29 Feb 1792 and Elizabeth Bashaw. Following is that will: Kershaw County Will of William Collins Pr. 29 Feb 1792 no wife mentioned, but from further research we find her to be Elizabeth Bashaw. Children: 1) Caty Collins wife of JOhn Gayden 2) Reuben Collins 3) Elizabeth Collins married? Jones 4)William Collins, Jr 5) Joseph Collins 6) Bashaw Collins 7) Sarah Collins Ex. Son Reuben and John Gayden Wit. John Green, Thomas Gardner, and Joanna Gayden. Now, can anyone tell me if this is the same Reuben Collins who married Monaca Duren? On with the Bible: The Bible was continued by the son Thomas D. Collinad and these entries occured: About 1835 he moved to Alabama and then to Mississppi. Thomas D. Collins and Winefred, his wife was married 10 Aug 1820 Winefred Walters was born 4 Feb 1800 d 4 Oct 1859 Their children: 1) Elijah Collins b 9 May 1821 2) Monaca Collins b 8 Oct 1823 3) Tepe L. Collins b 26 July 1826 4) Alexander T. Collins b 15 Dec 1828 5) Asa Walters Collins b 14 Dec 1830 6) Winefred Collins b 7 Jan 1833 7) Sara Jane Collins b 25 Dec 1835 8) Mary Collins b 18 Jan 1837 9) Leroy George Collins b 27 May 1838 10) Thomas B. Collins b 24 July 1841 I am interested in this line, as my direct line is Walters who married into the Collins line. I have Asa Walters b abt 1785 SC. I am wondering if Winefred Walters could be part of his family. I have some papers showing that Thomas D. Collins bought some land from Asa Walters in Miss. My Asa Walters, and my Walters family also were in Miss. Again, on with the Bible: The Bible was continued in a new copy by Elijah; Evidently his father Thomas D. Collins had moved from fairfield to Spartanburg Co., SC from the first entry. Elijah Collins was b in Spartanburg Co, SC 9 May 1821 and died in March 1887 in Miss. He married Penelope McClendon, a daughter of Dennis McClendon on Anson County, NC. Penelope Ann McClendon was b 25 Mar 1828 and died in 1870. The death portions of the two entries above were added in pencil later. Their children: 1) Jonathan D. Collins b 22 Oct 1843 2) Jessie M. Collins b 9 April 1847 3) Silas E. Collins b 23 May 1852 "added later in bible Died in Texas in 1940". 4) Alexander G. Collins b 13 Aug 1853 5) Penelope Ann Collins b 17 Dec 1854 6) Monacha Collins b 11 Aug 1853 7) Elijah Thomas Collins b 7 JUly 1858 8) Sarah Jane Collins b 14 May 1861 9) William Lee Collins b 4 Jan 1864 "added later d 28 Aug 1840. 10) Mary Sedonia Collins b 27 Dec 1867 11) Theodosha Collins b 28 Aug 1870 It continues with Mary Sedonia Collins married James Augustus Rayburn on 23 Dec 1885 in Newton County, MS and gives list of their children: 1) Ella Iola Rayburn b 19 Oct 1886 2) Quincy Elijah Rayburn b 4 Oct 1888 3) Irvin Augustus Rayburn b 24 May 1890 d 8 Oct 1932 4) Albert Lane Rayburn b 31 July 1894 5) Leovonia Rayburn b 1 Feb 1899 6) Sally Mary Rayburn b 9 Feb 1901 7) Effie Lois Rayburn b 12 JUne 1904 >From an old letter in the original Reuben Collins Bible: "Thomas D. Collins had red hair and his wife Winefred was very dark and Dutch and spake very broken English. I can remember my father telling me that they (Walters Family) that they first settled in Yourk, Pennsylvania and from there to Spartanburg Co., SC, but my father says they settled first in the southern part of NC., (perhaps Anson, Co." This Thomas D. Collins by having wed in Spartanburg, may account for his leavingFairfield-Kershaw. The Kershaw Collins also had many relatives to settle in Spartanbur. All of the Mary Collins Brockman set who came to SC settled in Spartanburg and so did the families of the Kilgore and Patterson men who wed the daughter of Lewis Collins, Jr. and hi wife Lois Hammond. A branch of the Collins family also settled in Spartanburg. It is thought that they were cousins of the Kershaw set being the sons and grandsosn of a brother of Capt. Joseph Collins of Spotsylvania, Co., Va. Here is what I have on Lewis Collins b 1783-1815 married 1788 Charlotte Lois Hammond 1784-1883. Children: 1) Elizabeth b 1790 married 1808 Joseph Patterson 1787 2) Wilie 1796-1816 3) Alethea Lois 1804 married Jesse Kilgore 1797. Children of Elizabeth Collins and Joseph Patterson: 1) Lewis Jefferson 1810-1892 married 1840 Margaret Wardlaw. No issue 2) Mary Alethea 1812 Married 1831 James Ross Dye. No issue 3) Charlotte Sarah b 1816 d 1897 married 1835 James S. Thompson 4) Joseph Wilie and Wyatt Patterson, twins died young. Children of Alethea Lois Collins and Jesse Kilgore: 1) James Lewis Collins b 1822 His Daughter Lois married William McKain 2) Charlotte Keziah b 1840 m 1858 Watt Wardlaw I will email more as I come across it. Regarding my quetions above on Reuben being the child of William Collins and Elizabeth Bashaw, I would sure like to know. Sincerely, Lori ______________________________