Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! -R: This must another one of your Collins. Remember I have said that the name of Thomas Collins is going to play a part around here in this TL of your tree. I suspect Daniel Collins grandfather or extremely close, will be a Thomas Collins. I have virtually no doubt whatsoever that this Thomas Collins is yours. Thomas Collins m:25-05-1618 Alice Cory at St. Mary Somerset, London, England. There is clearly another line of your Collins coming in here. I am not completely sure, but I woz foxed for a while to find out which church someone is refering to. The ref. said [St. Mary Somer], I suspect this should read [St. Mary Somerset, London]. Now, if you are standing at Blackfriars, once again, .... , go n., shortly take a sharp right into Queen Victoria Street, about 350m down take a sharp right into Lambeth Hill Road which goes into Castle Baynard St., about there is [St. Mary Somerset, London], and over the roads in Broken Wharf. Add that church to search records. This is extremely close to the other church I mentioned for Tim Collins. There are wods of Collins in London here in L1 area. -R: There is little choice, you need to take time out to sit down and get a proper Excel file going, and list every single Collins for every single church in this L1 area. You must add all associated known family surnames such as Cory/Corey, Francklin/Francklyn, Francknell, etc. Also: I 'feel' constant dragging to other possible branches to possibly: Anywhere around Maidstone Kent, Earls Colne might have an existing branch too, Bedford needs a desperate look into, also Norfolk, Norwich and eastwards. Mayors, church positions, merchants, this line of Collins is high flying, and a sailcloth maker must have been quite a lucrative business, or every sailor would be going nowhere slowly. I mean, how would a sail for a ship like that cost today ?. These guys were rich. I clearly do not know, but that chap who came to DC's mother in Bramford, he might be a high ranking army person ???. You need to make these lists. The John Cory, Merchant at [Norwich Norfolk] will be clearly related to Alice Cory. This Cozen-Cosin-Cossens-Cousins family must be added too, including William Cosin, [Schoolmaster of EC]. [***] John Cossens m:30-01-1636 Elizabeth Markham at Saint Dionis Backchurch, London]. I clearly do not know just yet, but that looks like it could be one of the Daniel Markham connections if you ask me. This [Saint Dionis Backchurch, London] church has needed a proper glean for a very long time. Here one would want to know the relationship between William + John. === === === [***] Henery Linck m:14-05-1635 Sibel Colenes at St. Peter le Poer, London, England]. [***?] [Henrie Linche, Chr. 01-01-1587, St. Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England]. [***] [John Cossens m:30-01-1636 Elizabeth Markham at Saint Dionis Backchurch, London]. === === === Dale + Artes: I know have been through many things, but I now want to zoom right in to some things. You are called. Don't worry too much about all the rest. I have my working database and notes. I want both of you to just zero in here on these [***]. Sibel Colenes (Sibill Linch from London) has to be the sister of Martha Collins of EC. I see no way around it, and no second option. Everything is right here. Everything !!!. Dale + Artes: Zero right in here for as long as it takes. We have to know who Sybil's parent's are. And who is Elizabeth Markham ?. -R: This should also be one of yours too. - S.K.M. - [!!!] =========================