Where does the birth certificate indicate the children were born? Start looking at census for families with the right age children. The point about surname is a good one. They may be genetically Collins... in other words, fathered by a Collins, but born to an unwed mother and the children were able to take the Collins name somehow. Look for single women with the right age children. Lainey > You are too far back. You must go the area of the ? mark. You could be > 9G's back in the wrong tree, probably why you might never connect. Of > course dee will help. You go and compare your line dee with that other > persons line and see what happens, hit or miss !!!. Why don't you go > looking for Collins death dates where say a husband and wife have died > either on the same day or very near to each other. dna would be the first > thing you would want to know. I am assuming they kept their original > family surnames and not that of the adopted parents ?. skm. > > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] The Genealogist [!!!]: I was hoping that DNA would > help. It didnt. I have one person 9 generations back but we have e-mailed > and neither one of us can connect our line. The problem with this line is > the grandfather, and sisters were put in a orphanage at a young age. They > had very limited memory of the earlier years. Since they were all adopted > out, the birth cert all list the adopted parents name, nothing on the real > parents. One day something will break..... > =========================== > > > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >