_radcrk@comcast.net_ (mailto:radcrk@comcast.net) Teresa, I'm sure Reiley wont mind me giving you his e-maill. He has done A LOT of Kidd research and been a lot of help to us all. Grace ____________________________________ From: tsanofsky@gmail.com Reply-to: kidd@rootsweb.com To: kidd@rootsweb.com Sent: 9/17/2011 3:31:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: Re: [KIDD] Thomas Kidd of Middlesex Co VA origins and ancestry still unproven! Hello, Grace. I did not have a copy of Thomas Kidd's will, and I'm so pleased that you sent it. It contains some good information--names I didn't know before. I see that Reiley transcribed it; do you know where he read it? (maybe he is on the list and will respond) Thanks so very much for sharing! Teresa On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM, <GLSGAB@aol.com> wrote: > Teresa, > > Maybe you can make some sense out of some of these records. I have had in > my research for a long time. I have a lot of land deeds, etc on Thomas > Willis, who is thought to be Jane's father. > > "Via the Beverly Fleet Papers of Mr. Henry Lee. > Virginia Colonial Abstracts, Vol XXV, York > County, 1646-1648, Beverly Fleet, Genealogical > Publishing Co, 1961, p. 25:p. 187: The will of Peter Death, Date gone." > > This entry is so difficult that the abstract had to be made from the > transcript of 1894. > Henry Lee executor. He to receive debts due > from the country for 'servis' as followeth: Capt > Martiau, Mr. Cleveland, Obed Williams and Mr > Gwin, these parties having paid nothing. > Also there is due from Jno Floyne a head of tobo. > Thos Kidd has in Mr Chew's plantation a debt of > 50 lb tobo. John Leech a debtor. All these debts > to Henry Lee as executor. The date shown in the > transcript is 7 Oct 1646." > > The Cleveland's are mine. They intermarried with the Kidds. > > Grace S. Green > > Will of Thomas Kidd > > May 28, 1680; Middlesex County, Virginia > > In the name of God Amen, I Thomas Kid of Rapahanack River in the county of > Middlesex being sick of body butt in perfect health of memory praised be > to God for it att the making of this my Will and Testament. > > First I bequeath my soule to God my maker, that gave it to me and my body > the ground.; to bee burried in a decent manor. > > Second my will and pleasure is that my son Thomas Kid shall have my > dwelling house & plantation after his mothers decease with foe hundred and > fifty > acors of land ajoying theirto; Lirkewise my will and pleasure is, that noe > parte nor parcell of the estate shall bee alienated or disposed of; but it > shall remaine to him and his heires lawfully begotten or to my sonne > William > or his heires lawfully begotten and in case of mortallity that niither of > my sonns enjoy it; then the whole tract of land, that is now undivided > between my sonns, to be equally devided between my toe datterss, Elizabeth > and > Jane, further my will and pleasure is that my sonne William Kid have my > other plantation with two hundred acores theirto ajoining; further my > will is > that my son William have the first increase of the mare called gemo and > then she and her increase be equally devided between my three children, > William, Elizabeth & Jane, at their coming of age; further my will and > pleasure > is that my sonn Thomas; have that horse colte that sires one my other mare > called bonny; further my will is that my datter Elizabeth have a cow > called brandy, with hur increase and my sonn William to have one yearline > heafer called by the name of brandy's heafer with her increase, further I > will > and bequeath to my wife Jane Kidd all the rest of my estate and my wife > Jane Kid bee whole executrixe and ?adminisstrative and after my wife's > decease > if he be alive, I appointe my sonn Thomas Kid to be gardian to the rest of > my children; and Richard Willis and John Willis to be oversseres. All > the aforesd articles is the will and desire of me Thomas Kid as witness my > hand and seale this 28th day of May 1680. > > Testes; > > > JOHN WILLIS (his X mark) Tho Kid (signed) > Edward ?Docrose? > > Transcribed by Reiley Kidd. > > The spelling has been left as it was written by the clerk. Bad as it is. > Of course they wrote the way they talked. > > > Wit: John Conell > Signed: Peter [his X mark] Death > David Pritchard > > > > In a message dated 9/11/2011 5:00:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > tsanofsky@gmail.com writes: > > Hello, Sandra, > > Thank you for this important reminder. I just pasted that into my > genealogy > program in the notes for Thomas. > > All the information I have for Thomas and Jane was passed to me by others > without any source notes. Do you have a source for a death date/place > for > Thomas and Jane? I have: > Thomas d. 28 May 1680 in Burnhams Creek, Middlesex, Virginia > Jane--no info other than a last name that someone guessed at > > Thanks, Sandra! > Teresa > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Sandra Kidd <skkidd@bellsouth.net> > wrote: > > > Recently, there was a post to this list about the origins and ancestry > of > > Thomas Kidd of Middlesex Co VA, died 1680. > > > > This is a reminder to all interested in this line that we have no > > documentation for the ancestry of this Thomas Kidd, nor any > documentation > > of > > his English origins. > > > > The information that he came from Soham Parish in Cambridgeshire is > purely > > speculative and there are no records that link him to this point of > origin. > > > > There is a research document that details the parish records of Kidds in > > Soham but there is nothing in the Soham records of the period that > confirms > > any link to Middlesex Co VA or Thomas Kidd who died 1680 in Middlesex Co > > VA. > > > > > > Our Kidd Y-DNA study has Y-DNA tested a Kidd with documented Soham > Parish > > descent and he does not match any other Kidds in our study. We continue > to > > seek other documented Soham Parish Kidd descendants for testing, but > they > > are hard to find since no Kidds have lived in Soham for more than 100 > > years. > > > > This also is a reminder that there is no proof whatsoever of the maiden > > name > > of Jane, wife of Thomas Kidd who died 1680, and there is no proof > > whatsoever > > of the maiden name of Margaret, wife of William Kidd (1675-1727) who was > > the > > son of Thomas Kidd. > > > > I realize that many of us (including me at earlier times) have put about > > these assumptions about Thomas Kidd's origins and the maiden names of > his > > wife Jane and his daughter in law Margaret, wife of William Kidd. So I > > post > > this correction from time to time to help those who may be newer to > Thomas > > Kidd family research and its various mysteries. > > > > Sandra Kidd > > skkidd@bellsouth.net > > descendant of Thomas Kidd of Middlesex Co VA through his son William > Kidd > > of > > Middlesex Co VA and grandson Aaron Kidd of Albemarle Co VA > > > > Kidd Y-DNA study co-administrator > > www.familytreedna.com/public/Kidd > > > > > > "Kidds helping Kidds" > > > > When was the list time you posted to the list? Do it today! Let us > know > > who you are researching. Did you find a small tidbits? Tell us about > it, > > it must help bring down walls. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > KIDD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > "Kidds helping Kidds" > > When was the list time you posted to the list? Do it today! 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