On a trip to eastern Kentucky some years back the subject of the Melungeon families came up. I was told research is very hard because of prejudice aimed at them in earlier years. There are many families in that part of the country with Melungeon heritage. I bought a book in one of the book shops, Melungeons: the resurrection of a proud people, Ken, R 974 to donate to our genealogy collection in our public library. It names a lot of people. I can do a look up for any Collins that might be listed in the book if you wish. I guess the Collins line I'm specifically talking about would be the line extending from David Collins-Aaron(1773)-Harmon(1807)-etc. I know currently many of my Collins family live throughout south eastern Missouri and north eastern Arkansas. From speaking with my father there are also Collins relations throughout other parts of Missouri and even Indiana. Though it is still somewhat up in the air where my great great grandfather Jacob Collins came from, it is believed that Harmon Collins may have been his father. Also there are relations between the Bulls(became Turnbulls), Nasalrods and Dentons. I appreciate any direction in this because with alot of the stuff I am reading on the internet it becomes confusing as to who was(is) and who wasn't(isn't). Definitely an interesting topic. ---- kyroots@aol.com wrote: ============= There are a number of Collins families that appear to have been 'called' Melungeon at one time or another. DNA has shown most of them appear to be unrelated as far as Collins but possibly belonging to same Native Tribes at one point. There is no proof that I have found to date that shows any of these Collins families 'mated' with slaves, were freed, runaway, etc. One line appears to descend from the line out of Louisa Co., Va., to Orange Co., Wilkes, Rowan, NC and then to East Tennessee. Another line which may be considered Melungeon are the Thomas and George found in the 1794 petition in Georgetown, or Marion Co., SC. They may be the same Collins family found in Wilson Co., or Bells Bend, Tenn. Another line appears to be Benjamin Collins, unrelated to the Virginia Collins line that also appears in East Tennessee. If you scroll down this page to PICOSEARCH and type in Collins there is a lot of info http://www.historical-melungeons.com/index.html Joanne -----Original Message----- From: rtcollins <rtcollins@cox.net> To: Collins List <Collins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2011 1:13 am Subject: [COLLINS] Melungeon I have a question I was wondering if anyone has an answer to. After doing much esearch I am still confused about which lines are considered Melungeon and hich lines are not. Are the descendants of Vardy the only Melungeons or are all he Collins that came from Virginia in the 1700's, through North Carolina onsidered Melungeons as well? I've also seen lists by Paul Heineg with Collins from North Carolina listed as ulatto and am wondering if these are the same Collins from Virginia. Thanks for any clarification. E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My husband's family were both mostly Collins and Biggs.  The families were intertwined.  Many yrs ago I was studying the Melungeon families and both names were on the list along with my family name of Denhams.  Howard's Collins' were from VA.  The Biggs I haven't found out of Ohio yet and my Denhams came from England to New England and on to KY and Ohio.  It is a very interesting research.  My daughter had many illnesses as she grew up.  Fibromyalgia, Bi-polar, migraines, hib disease.  She passed away at age 35.  My husband's Collins family had an Am. Indian named Melinda Smith.  She was from Ohio.  This is all I was ever able to find.  Hope you find what you are searching for.  If I can be of help, let me know. Mary Jo McKinley From: Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Melungeon On a trip to eastern Kentucky some years back the subject of the Melungeon families came up.  I was told research is very hard because of prejudice aimed at them in earlier years.  There are many families in that part of the country with Melungeon heritage.  I bought a book in one of the book shops, Melungeons: the resurrection of a proud people, Ken, R 974 to donate to our genealogy collection in our public library.  It names a lot of people.  I can do a look up for any Collins that might be listed in the book if you wish. I guess the Collins line I'm specifically talking about would be the line extending from David Collins-Aaron(1773)-Harmon(1807)-etc. I know currently many of my Collins family live throughout south eastern Missouri and north eastern Arkansas. From speaking with my father there are also Collins relations throughout other parts of Missouri and even Indiana. Though it is still somewhat up in the air where my great great grandfather Jacob Collins came from, it is believed that Harmon Collins may have been his father.  Also there are relations between the Bulls(became Turnbulls), Nasalrods and Dentons. I appreciate any direction in this because with alot of the stuff I am reading on the internet it becomes confusing as to who was(is) and who wasn't(isn't). Definitely an interesting topic. ---- kyroots@aol.com wrote: ============= There are a number of Collins families that appear to have been 'called' Melungeon at one time or another. DNA has shown most of them appear to be unrelated as far as Collins but possibly belonging to same Native Tribes at one point.  There is no proof that I have found to date that shows any of these Collins families 'mated' with slaves, were freed, runaway, etc.  One line appears to descend from the line out of Louisa Co., Va., to Orange Co.,  Wilkes, Rowan, NC and then to East Tennessee.  Another line which may be considered Melungeon are the Thomas and George found in the 1794 petition in Georgetown, or Marion Co., SC.  They may be the same Collins family found in Wilson Co., or Bells Bend, Tenn. Another line appears to be Benjamin Collins, unrelated to the Virginia Collins line that also appears in East Tennessee. If you scroll down this page to PICOSEARCH and type in Collins there is a lot of info http://www.historical-melungeons.com/index.html Joanne -----Original Message----- From: rtcollins <rtcollins@cox.net> To: Collins List <Collins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2011 1:13 am Subject: [COLLINS] Melungeon I have a question I was wondering if anyone has an answer to. After doing much esearch  I am still confused about which lines are considered Melungeon and hich lines are not. Are the descendants of Vardy the only Melungeons or are all he Collins that came from Virginia in the 1700's, through North Carolina onsidered Melungeons as well? I've also seen lists by Paul Heineg with Collins from North Carolina listed as ulatto and am wondering if these are the same Collins from Virginia. Thanks for any clarification. E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message