In a message dated 98-10-27 11:22:55 EST, you write: << Really??? Tell me more about that line. How did you find out these were gypsy names? I think I am on to something here. Did anyone from that line intermarry with MOores, Alexanders, Binghams, Lackeys, Whites, Osborns? Jill LackAssc@execpc.com >>>>>>>>> Jill and new commers, I posted this info a while back but for some that may have missed it or the newbies on the list I will take this time to repost. I found a cousin through my research and this is information that he has provided me with . My name is Jerry Warsing. I'm also a direct descendant of Meredy Collins through his and Mary Polly Holloway's son William, born 1806. William apparently died in Nicholas County, West Virginia, in 1896. My great grandmother, Arminda Collins Trent, was born in Eastern Kentucky in 1854, and died in Wyoming County, West Virginia in 1926. Arminda's husband, Humphrey Trent, was a descendant of English Gypsies who had been forced to leave England during the rein of Oliver Cromwell's Puritians in the 1650's. He was born in 1854 in Russell County, and died in 1927, a year after Arminda, supposedly of heartbreak.Do I have information for you? I don't know. I do have quite a bit of information I believe I have Mary Polly's parents names somewere I'll look for that information. Also, something you might not know, Meredy's name is on a plaque on the Pike County Courthouse in Pikeville, Kentucky, along with several others commemorating his service during the Revolutionary War. I saw the plaque myself when I left Second Union in July. I'll look for other information and send it to you. I live in Nottoway County, Virginia,( Southside ) I'm 60 years young, and have only recently started geneaological but I'm glad to help and Talk to me anytime. Jerry Warsing Hi Brenda, Thanks for getting back to me so quickly - I, too, have a letter from Eula Collins Conley to an aunt of mine , Gladys Hatfield, dated April 20, 1982. (This aunt died in 1996 at the age of 97) I was under the impression that Eula died only a couple of years ago; in any event the 1979 date you have is incorrect. My great grandmother Arminda was the next to last child of William Collins , sr. his last child was Samuel who emigrated to Slippery Rock, Oregon, in 1905 Samuel was the youngest child of Wm.Collins , sr., born, I think, in the year 1854. He rode by horseback from Nicholas County on his way West, and stopped at Simon on the Guyandotte River in Wyoming County to tell his sister, my g. grandmother Arminda Collins Trent, goodby The story goes that he had with him a young second wife,and his saddlebags full of silver coins. My grandmother, Laura Trent Walls, who was postmistress of the Simon, W. Va postoffice for many years, received a large box full of tintype pictures of Samuels second children, and perhaps William jr's children around 1928, shortly after Arminda died. The tintypes disappeared around the time of my grandmothers death in 1952. I'm going to try to send you a copy of this letter. I've had trouble scanning previously, partly due to equipment problems, but also because I'm a computer neophyte. Either Samuel or William jr, I'm not sure which, but I believe it was Samuel, made a lot of money in the hotel business. Anytime, Jerry Warsing continued..........................