Bill, I have checked the films. This is what I found: 1850 Census, Cabell County, VA 76/78 Harrison Collins 31 M Farmer VA Martha A. 23 F Wife VA Amanda 8 F VA William 7 M VA Allan W. 2 M VA Eliza Lyrus 16 F VA 1880 Census, Gallia Co. OH 154/154 Collins, Harrison WM 60 Married Cooper WVA WVA WVA Martha WF 46 Married Wife/KH WVA WVA WVA Eugene WM 19 Single Son/Cooper WVA WVA WVA Effie S. WF 16 Single Dau WVA WVA WVA Erla? WM 13 Single Son WVA WVA WVA Even though there seems to be some discrepancy in the age of Martha from 1850 to 1880, this looks like that same person, but with families at different times. But perhaps not. Do you have other verification that Harrison moved from Cabell Co, WVA to Gallia Co., OH? I haven't yet been able to find out anything else about Thomas C. Collins from Giles Co. VA. Do any of these names of the children make sense based upon your information? Les