MGC: = Jas Markham married to Martha Collins 11.10.1632 Jas son of Jas Markam and Martha Markam christened 2.4.1634 Margt daughter of Jas Markham and Martha Markham christened 18.8.1636 Jn son of Jas Markham and Martha Markham christened 21.2.1639 Martha Markham wife of Jas Markham buried 12.3.1669 = *Dan Markham son of Jas and Martha christened 22.6.1641 *Wm Markham son of Jas and Martha christened 22.6.1645 *Martha Markham daughter of Jas and Martha christened 21.3.1647 [Mathew Markham of Wethersfield, Essex][Son of James Markham (Weaver)] *Phoebe Markham daughter of Jas and Martha born (christened) 3.4.1655 = Abrm Markham married to Alice Turner 27.6.1633. Abrm son of Abrm Markam and Alice Markam christened 2.4.1634. Jeane daughter of Abrm Markham and Alice Markham christened 14.2.1636. Eliz daughter of Abrm Markham and Alice Markham christened 29.1.1639. *Nath Markham son of Abrm and Ales christened 30.5.1642. Abrm Markham buried 11.1.1660. = [*]: I have to ask myself the question: What if .... .... .... Two of One, Three of the Same, and Four of a Kind ?. The 'Secret' is true, but why ?. My clear point was that these entries were clearly different. That is true. [*Nath Markham son of Abrm and Ales christened 30.5.1642]: Somewhere around 1641 and before, these Markham records are from here on, being written as child with surname of Markham, and parents with no surname. Abraham Markham's line now has it too for son b:1642 (!!!). Dale, you have been called: Somewhere between 27-03-1638 + 06-04-1638, something is happening or changing in the entries in the records for some unknown reason. I would like to write this another way: Offspring born 'after' this TL say 1638, are named with surname, and parents not. This is happening for many families, so what does it mean ?. There might be some grey area period for indifference here, but if one had to make a whole chart, how would it look ? Outside of those last questions, it would mean that Martha Collins is Goodwife Markham (!!!?!!!). [Jn Russell married to Phoebe Collin 29.4.1624 (EC)]: Surely, this must be your John Russell of Hadley ?. In fact, I think I might even say it is.... .... .... I think we are making history here .... Sometimes my Mind Wanders .... And then it leaves Completely .... What can I say: Martha Collins is the sister of Sibill Linch.... .... .... - S.K.M. [!!!] ======================== PS: Fawn: I will come back and help you....