I have the two volume set of:: In Search of the "Forlorn Hope" A Comprehensive Guide t Locating British Regiments and Their Records (1640-WWI). If you have any other information perchance we can find the information to allow you to locate his military records, which often were quite rich genealogicaly. Plese let me know and I'll do what I can. Charley Langley ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [COLLINS-L] Francis John COLLINS Above allegedly born of Maurice & Ida COLLINS July 1892 in MA (possibly Boston or Salem) but no trace at Boston Registry of birth. At some stage (and prior to 1916) he managed to get to India and was serving in the Indian Army - why, when or how he got there remain a mystery. Assistance would be appreciated Thanks & Happy New Year Linda & Tony

Above allegedly born of Maurice & Ida COLLINS July 1892 in MA (possibly Boston or Salem) but no trace at Boston Registry of birth. At some stage (and prior to 1916) he managed to get to India and was serving in the Indian Army - why, when or how he got there remain a mystery. Assistance would be appreciated Thanks & Happy New Year Linda & Tony

A New Year & I'll try once again! Our Brickwall is: David Collins b. 1804 [supposedly in VA] d. April 1867 Pittsylvania Co., VA m. 31 Oct 1826 in Pittsylvania Co., VA Margaret "Peggy" Thomas [father's consents, surety Abraham Thomas.......parents listed as: William & Annie Thomas] "Peggy" b. ca 1809 in VA d. in Pittsylvania Co., VA both buried in farm graveyard there. 10 children that lived: David Rudolph, Elizabeth M., Margarett F., John W., Lucy J., Chrispen W. , Calvin, Mary Ann, Lockey L. & Kitty L. I have info on the children but David is as far back as I've been able to get. Happy Familying, Laura J. Irby in VA

Well, Lists, another year has gone by and I have been lucky enough to break down some of my brick walls, find some new 'cousins' and generally enjoy the hobby. It is time for my annual update of the surnames, dates, and locations that I am researching. I think, in order to save time, I will do a generic list of the 3 most pressing (frustrating) and hope someone can come up with a match. Collins -- PA WI MN CA OR bef 1777 to 1942+ * looking for Henry Collins' Parents. he was a private in REV WAR , married to Rachel? He died 1793 in Derry twp Mifflin co PA . His grandson, Alvin Collins married Lydia Crandall 1852 in Jefferson co WI Crandall-- NY OH WI KS MN OR bef 1796 to 1912 *Trying to link Joseph Crandall to Elder John, Joseph b. 1796 , married Mary Clarke (b. abt 1802) 1824 in Watson, Lewis co NY according to sources, but I do not have that mrg record. * trying to find descendents of Harrison Crandall of Elk co KS a son of Joseph. Have LOTS I can share on this line. * trying to find descendents of Levi Crandall of Jefferson co WI, son of Joseph and Mary Crandall. He had at least 2 daughters, Loretta and Frances. Clark(e)-- VT (or) MA, NY OH WI bef 1776 to 1870 *Asa Clarke was father of Mary. Supposedly served in REV WAR, but no proof. As you may see, all three of these families intersect in my line of ancestry. thankyou all "Remember me in the family tree-- my name, my days, my strife; then I'll ride upon the wings of time, and live an endless life. " -----Goetsch

Mary M.FARRELL26 jan [email protected] Arlington,St.Chelsea,Ma.,[email protected] Arlington, St.Chelsea ,Ma.,1897- dau of Michael [email protected]@56 Arlington,St. Chelsea,Ma.,blacksmith,[email protected] Arlington,St.Chelsea,Ma,horseshoer, 1905 [email protected] Arlington,St.Chelsea,Ma.Blacksmith,1910-&NoraCOLLINS @ Ireland-rs @56 Arlington,St.Chelsea,Ma.,[email protected] Arlington,St.Chelsea,[email protected] 56 Arlington,St.Chelsea,Ma..1910- Mary M. sister to Edwin FARRELL26 Feb [email protected] Arlington,St.Chelsea,[email protected] Arlington ,St .Chelsea,Ma..1905- Learne S. A.FARRELL12 Jul [email protected] Arlington,St.Chelsea,Ma.,[email protected] Arlington,St.Chelsea,Ma.1910- ------------------------------------------------ Thomas [email protected]@[email protected],Ma. Laborer ,1875- son of CharlesFARMER [email protected] & Mary [email protected] 1830abt- wed31 oct [email protected],Ma.St. Rose's Church,James McGlew,Catholic Priest , Chelsea ,&Lynn ,Ma.- Margaret COVENEY [email protected]@[email protected],Ma 1875 -dau of Peter COVENEY [email protected] & Mary [email protected] ------------------- THE CHELSEA REVERE WINTHROP DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=E58068&special=True& projecttype=G ----------------- Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list Jim Denning

[email protected][Boston][email protected] [email protected],Ma., laborer, 1872- & Mary "Maria"@[email protected] [email protected],Ma. 1872 - they have Ellen Maria COLLINS 6 May [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1872- Mary [email protected]@ireland [email protected],ma,1881-rs @ Chelsea,Ma.,1882- ----------------------------------------------------- William [email protected],[email protected],[email protected], Ma.,laborer ,1881- son of Michael CONNORS rs @ Boston,Ma.. 1857abt- [email protected] Chelsea ,Ma.,1858-& Mary [email protected],Ma. [email protected],Ma.,1858- wed29 May [email protected],MA,James Fitzgerald ,Catholic Priest,Chelsea,ma Mary [email protected]@ireland [email protected],ma,1881-rs @Chelsea,Ma.,1882-dau of Timothy COLLINS @ Ireland[Boston][email protected] [email protected],Ma.,laborer,1872- & Mary "Maria"@[email protected] [email protected],Ma.1872- they have William TimothyCONNORS 19 Nov 1883 @198 Cherry,Chelsea,[email protected] Cherry,Chelsea,Ma.1883- AndrewCONNORS 18 Mar 1882 @Chelsea,Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,1882- William F.brother to EdwardCONNORS3 Jun [email protected],Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,1858- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- ThomasCONNORS9 Nov [email protected],Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,[email protected], Ma.,Bill Poster,1887- son of [email protected] Jul [email protected] cause of death Sunstroke [email protected],Ma.,laborer,[email protected],[email protected],Ma.1862-& [email protected]@Chelsea,Ma.,[email protected],Ma. [email protected],Ma.1862- wed22 May [email protected],ma.h.j.mulligan ,catholic priest chelsea ma.- Mary DWYER [email protected]@[email protected],Ma.1887- dau of Patrick DWYER [email protected] & Bridget [email protected] thomas brother to John CONNORS 15 Aug [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1858- Nellie CONNORS 9 Nov [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1862- Julia CONNORS 25 Nov [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1860- Mary sister to Michael J. DWYER [email protected],Ma.,1886abt- wed Mary [email protected], Ma.,1886abt- John DWYER ------------------------------------------------- Mary [email protected],Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,[email protected] Beacon ,Chelsea,Ma.1904-dau of Michael J. DWYER [email protected],Ma.,1886abt-wed Mary [email protected], Ma.,1886abt- wed23 Nov [email protected],Ma.St. Rose's Church,Fr. Edward J.Welch,*"Priest" Chelsea,Ma.- Dennis CRONIN [email protected],Ma.,[email protected],Ma.,[email protected] Cheever,Chelsea,Ma.,typesetter,1904-son of Dennis CRONIN Sr. [email protected] , Ma .,1884abt- & Janet HARRIS [email protected],Ma.,1884abt- ----------------------- Michael [email protected],[email protected],[email protected],Ma . teanmster,1873-son of Alex ? ARGEY [email protected],Ma.1852abt- & Anna M.rs @ Chelsea,Ma.1852abt- wed27 Nov [email protected],Ma.St. Rose's Church,James McGlew,Catholic Priest , Chelsea ,&Lynn ,Ma.- Ann CONLEY [email protected],Ma.,-dau of Michael [email protected],Ma ., 1850 abt- -------------------------------------- Thomas E.ARGY22 JUL [email protected],Chelsea,MA.-Sep 1969 [email protected] Beachmont , Chelsea ,MA.1909- son of William [email protected],[email protected] Beachmont ,Chelsea,MA.teamster,1909-& Francis M. [email protected],[email protected] Beachmont , Chelsea,MA.1909- ------------------------------------------------------ Cornelius CONNORS 16 Jan [email protected],[email protected],Ma.1860- son of Cornelius [email protected]@Chelsea,Ma.,laborer,1860- & [email protected] Ireland- [email protected],Ma.1860- ----------------------------- ------------ --------------------------------- THE CHELSEA REVERE WINTHROP DNA PROJECT http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=E58068&special=True& projecttype=G ---------------------------------- Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

Every once and a while ,I like to just check for people whose trees might have these towns in them. If you do then you should join MACHELSEA-L [a different type of mailing list] Joining will definatly pay dividends in found names. To join send email to [email protected] titled subscribe Jim Denning using dna to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-carroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchug h-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.-sprague- and ever growing list

Vernon Collins COLLINS, VERNON, 89, of Apopka passed away Friday, Nov. 26, 2004 at his home. Survivors include his children Gene, Vernita, Steve and Joyce; 16 grandchildren and 19 great-grandchildren. He was preceded in death by the mother of his children, Juanita Collins and a son, Richard Collins. Vernon loved to fish, play his guitar and enjoy a great meal with his family. Burial will be at the Veterans Cemetery in Bushnell, FL. Published in the Orlando Sentinel on 12/7/2004. _Back_ (http://www.legacy.com/orlandosentinel/LegacySubPage2.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonID=2895590) ____________________________________

I am a descendent of Thomas Collins (my ggrandfather). He died in Ohio abt 1845. I do not know his parents or siblings. However, he had a son named Henry (my great uncle). Could there possibly be a connection to your Collins line? Joan/Ohio

I have James Staton Collins b c 1757 Easton, MD. He was in Allegany Co., MD in 1800 before moving to Fairfield Co., O c 1802. Maybe he's connected, too. Possibly a Johnson Collins figures in. Lori ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Rodman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS-L] Searching for Collins in Cumberland County, PA > I am descended from Henry Collins of Derry Twnshp/Mifflin Cty, Pa. I have > not been able to trace any members of his family, brothers or parents. > Henry was born about 1740 and died 1793. I wonder if Henry could have > been > related to the people you are searching for. Peggy Rodman > > > > ==== COLLINS Mailing List ==== > Need list assistance? Please contact: Barbara V. Byrd at: > [email protected] > List Admin for COLLINS-L and COLLINS-D

I am descended from Henry Collins of Derry Twnshp/Mifflin Cty, Pa. I have not been able to trace any members of his family, brothers or parents. Henry was born about 1740 and died 1793. I wonder if Henry could have been related to the people you are searching for. Peggy Rodman

I am descended from Benjamin Collins of Cumberland/Juniata County. Have also seen a Brice Collins listed in that area. I wondered if my Benjamin might have been related to your John. I am not sure of Ben's birth, probably around 1750. He married Mary McAllister. They moved to Perry County, Ohio, where they are buried. If you think there is a connection, let me know. I have some information on-line at: http://www.geocities.com/carrollfamilygenealogy/BenC.htm<http://www.geocities.com/carrollfamilygenealogy/BenC.htm>

Barbara, Noted that your Elias Collins died in Lincoln Co. WV. I have a branch off of my Meredith Collins line that is full of blank spots but they were also in Lincoln Co. Wondered if there could be a connection: . MERDY LEVI JOHNSON2 COLLINS (MERIDITH1) was born 1815 in Pike Co. KY, and died Aft. 1890 in Lincoln Co. WV. He married NANCY JOHNSON 1836 in Pike Co. Kentucky. She was born 1815 in Scott Co. Virginia, and died Aft. 1884 in Lincoln Co. WV. Notes for MERDY LEVI JOHNSON COLLINS: AKA Levi Collins Notes for NANCY JOHNSON: According to family tradition Nancy was Cherokee, her father born in Tennessee, and her mother born in Kentucky. Framily tradition tells that Nancy used to ride a bull from Hart's Creek , along the Drawdy Creek to Charleston where she bought salt. Children of MERDY COLLINS and NANCY JOHNSON are: i. MINBY3 COLLINS, b. 1837; d. 1856. ii. DEBBY COLLINS, b. 1840; m. JOSHUA WELLS. iii. WILLIAM P. COLLINS, b. 1841; d. Aft. 1915; m. SUSEY. Notes for WILLIAM P. COLLINS: William Collins son of Levi along with his two brothers,Fransis & James, and father Levi joined the 34th Battalion, Virginia Calvary. They were on the Jones-Imbroden raid into WV, and pro- tected LEE durning his retreat from Gettsburg. Levi was promoted to Captain and commanded about 40 men, at Rheastown, Tenn. in October 1863. Fransis was shot in the forearm and captured at Rheastown, Tennessee in October 1863 He was imprisioned in Camp Chase at Columbus, Ohio Brother James L. Polk Collins died of fever at Hart's Creek, WV in 1863. In early 1864 Levi was shot through the knee. After the war William P. Collins moved to Kentucky and recieved a pension beginning in 1915. iv. FRANSIS MARION COLLINS, b. 1842; d. 1925; m. MARY TOMBLIN. v. THERESA COLLINS, b. 1844. vi. JAMES L.POLK COLLINS, b. 1846; d. 1863, Hart's Creek, WV (fever). Notes for JAMES L.POLK COLLINS: James L Polk Collins , went by the name of Polk Collins. He entered the Civil war with his father and two brothers in 1861 or 1862. ( see William) Near the end of the war Polk caught the fever and died 1863 at Hart's Creek. He was probably buried there and that is probably why Levi and Nancy settled in the same area in 1866. vii. PRESTON COLLINS, b. 1850; m. MARGARET THOMPSON. 2. viii. JOHNSON LEWIS COLLINS, b. 1852; d. 1918. ix. RICHARD J COLLINS, b. 1853; m. SARAH ANN LUCAS. x. JANE COLLINS, b. 1856; m. OSCAR LAMBERT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Harvey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:43 AM Subject: [COLLINS-L] S.C./N.C./VA/WV STATEHOOD DATES > > My Collins line is a blank prior to my g-g-grandfather Elijah (Elias/Lige) Collins. He is buried in Lincoln Co. WV, Lucas Madden Cemetery with wife Celecia. > According to the information on the stone he b) 1803 d) 1898, she b) 1829 d) 1916

All of West Virginia was a part of Virginia prior to 20 June 1863. Kanawha Co. VA formed 1788 from Greenbrier and Montgomery Counties VA Mason Co. VA formed 1804 from Kanawha Co. VA Cabell Co. VA formed 1809 from Kanawha Co. VA Logan Co. VA formed 1824 from Cabell, Kanawha and Giles and Tazewell Co VA (Remainder of Giles and Tazewell Co still in VA.) Jackson Co VA formed 1831 from Kanawha, Mason and Wood Co VA Wayne Co VA formed 1842 from Cabell Co VA Boone Co. VA formed 1847 from Cabell, Kanawha and Logan Co VA Putnam Co VA formed 1848 from Cabell, Kanawha and Mason Co. VA Lincoln Co WVA formed 1867 from Boone, Cabell, Kanawha and Putnam Counties and by that time all were WV. I hope this makes it easier for those searching for ancestors in this area. Barb in Ohio

In reply to the query: S.C. date admitted 23 May 1788, N.C. date admitted 21 Nov 1789 and VA date admitted 25 June 1788 and WV 20 June 1863. My Collins line is a blank prior to my g-g-grandfather Elijah (Elias/Lige) Collins. He is buried in Lincoln Co. WV, Lucas Madden Cemetery with wife Celecia. According to the information on the stone he b) 1803 d) 1898, she b) 1829 d) 1916 His name was Elijah but as noted was called Elias or Lige. His stone say Elias. In any event we will call him Elias for simplicity. 1850 (W)Va Cabell Co census Elias Collins 36 yrs Farmer father b) Va mother b) Va (note his age, had he been married before?)(one record I found, had his mother b) Indiana (?) Mary E. 19 yrs " " Merritt 6/12 " " Cabell Co (W) VA Marriages Elisha Collins m) 12 Dec 1851 Melissa J. Adkins 1860 (W)VA Cabell Co census Elias Collins 45 yrs Farmer Selecia 31ys (The following children were listed with the family, note that Merritt and William R Collins are listed first. Was William a child of Elias' marriage to Melissa J. Adkins? I live in the general area and to-date haven't found records to verify.) Merritt 10 yrs (m) Nancy __?__ she was b) Mo. they had 4 child) William R. 9 yrs (I haven't any concrete info on William) Timothy 6 yrs. b) Mar. 1854 (m) Parmelia Ray (9 children known) Elijah 4 yrs b) 10 Mar. 1856 Andrew Jackson 2 yrs. (my direct) Vincent 4/12 The 1880 WV Lincoln Co WV census additional children: Breckenridge 16 yrs Ira M. 14 yrs Lelia B. 12 yrs Arthur A 10 yrs I have the death cert. for Lelia Belle Collins b) 10 Feb 1868 d) 10 Jun 1958 On the certified copy of her death cert. her fathers name is ELIJAH COLLINS, her mother name is SAESHIA ATKINS. There have been many discussions in the family as to the correct spelling and pronouncion of her name. Depending on records the spelling varies, Selecia, Celecia, Cecelia and, of course, the name that her only daughter swears was correct, SAESHIA. My grandmother said that the family ( her children, grands, neices, nephews and anyone who knew her called her AUNT SHEESH.) It is also believed that Malissa J. Adkins and Saeshia Atkins were sisters. Lawrence/Lawrence Adkins is listed living with the family 8 yrs old, in the 1860 census. Will send another message with the counties in Virginia later West Virginia with dates and from which counties formed. My Collins information derived for the most part from the records in these counties as I live within a short driving distance to all. Hope this isn't over the top. Barb in Ohio

In a message dated 11/26/04 7:19:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, NINNA9258 writes: Also, part of NC and VA were once the same. Do you know when? This is would certainly help most researchers who can't connect their families. Teri Schneider

Hi, Here is an excerpt from a book that I have found to be completely wrong (the info has also been posted on the internet). If you stumble across this info, please ignore it. Correct info is below the excerpt. Wrong --***In the book, *Descendants of Price COLLINGS and Rebecca (----)* rescearched by Marjorie J. Fletcher, for her cousin of Cheryl Collins: Price COLLIINGS maybe the son of Samuel COLLINS and Margaret (Hudson)(Hodson) COLLINS; Price and Rebecca's son Brice (Price) COLLINS (Sr), b. 1712, Somerset MD, d. 1791 in Orange, NC, m. 12 Aug 1747 Wilmington New Castle DE Elizabeth (BRADLEY) COLLINS, b. 9 Dec 1721 in Wilmington New Castle DE, d. 1800 in Orange Co NC, dau. Henry BRADLEY and Catherine(LEWIS) BRADLEY.*** --Wrong The elder Price Collins was the son of Thomas Collins and Ann Price of Northampton County, VA. After migrating to Somerset County, MD he and his son Price remained there. The son did not change his name to Brice, move to Wilmington DE, and then die to NC. Brice Collins from NC could possibly be the one that came from Wilmington, Delaware. I have no idea. He just is definitely not Price Collins from the eastern shore of MD. My primary Collins focus is the eastern shore of MD and VA and I have not researched upper Delaware or NC. Frank Collins --- [email protected] wrote: > Does anyone have the ancestors and/or history of > this gentleman? He's one > of two in the records around 1800. The other one is > mine, but with such > an unusual name I'm really curious if they're > related. My Brice COLLINS > is the son of John and Catharine COLLINS in > Cumberland/Mifflin (and the > area that's now Juniata) County , Pennsylvania. > > Would love to know more about the southern Brice > COLLINS. > > Thank you. > > Lorraine > [email protected] > > ==== COLLINS Mailing List ==== > Need list assistance? Please contact: Barbara V. > Byrd at: [email protected] > List Admin for COLLINS-L and COLLINS-D __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Does anyone have the ancestors and/or history of this gentleman? He's one of two in the records around 1800. The other one is mine, but with such an unusual name I'm really curious if they're related. My Brice COLLINS is the son of John and Catharine COLLINS in Cumberland/Mifflin (and the area that's now Juniata) County , Pennsylvania. Would love to know more about the southern Brice COLLINS. Thank you. Lorraine [email protected]

In a message dated 11/26/04 5:42:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: This really intriques me. The farthest I've been able to go back on my husband's Collins line is David Collins 1804-1867 m. Martha Thomas 1809 - after 1860 One of their children was a John W. 1840- after 1902 These are from VA & obviously not the same direct family but often families travel together or marry sister & brothers from another close family. Does anyone have any ideas? Happy Familying, Laura Irby in VA This is the Collins family that can be found in the 1870 Census of Lowndes County. John W. was b. around 1833 in SC. This may sound dumb... But when did Carolina split North and South? Also Va. to West Va.? All the names that run in our Collins line are the same as those of the Enoch Collins's line. Jesse, David, Peter, Josephine, Hardy, Thomas and John. Let me know if anyone else has any ideas. Teri Schneider

This really intriques me. The farthest I've been able to go back on my husband's Collins line is David Collins 1804-1867 m. Martha Thomas 1809 - after 1860 One of their children was a John W. 1840- after 1902 These are from VA & obviously not the same direct family but often families travel together or marry sister & brothers from another close family. Does anyone have any ideas? Happy Familying, Laura Irby in VA I have been researching the Collins family from Lowndes and Berrien Counties. Specifically the family of John W. Collins from SC and Mary Giddens from GA. 2 of their daughters married the sons of Elias Thomas from Cat creek, Lowndes county. Elbert Thomas married Martha A. Collins and John N. Thomas married Pheobe Collins. I have alot of information on this family but and stuck on the parents of John W. Collins Teri Schneider