?MGC: I am new to the LOCK(E) lists. I feel that I need to step up this research another notch. I have joined the LOCK + LOCKE lists as well as the COLLINS list. For LOCK(E), maybe go to the MARKHAM-UK list and review at least my last weeks posts or more. Which of the two LOCK(E) lists are more concerned with the line of say the William Locke b:13-12-1628 of Stepney, London who m:27-12-1665 Mary Clarke at Woburn MA ?. I recently mentioned that the surname of 'Salter' is also nearby in London. I understand this William Locke's parents are a William Locke b:1602? of London who m. Elizabeth Salter. This William Locke b:1602? parents are one Christopher Locke + Elizabeth \\. Christopher Locke's parents are Matthew Locke + Eleasar \\. Is this correct ?. The name of 'Eleasar' is one that stands out a lot. Also the George Whitmore mentioned in the London lists I put out recently. I am looking for those LOCK researchers who are interested in these lines, and what further info you might have of this area. Master Michael Lock and of the [Levant Company] also spelt [Mighell Locke ?], [Captains of Queen Elizabeth's forces under Sir John Norris in the Low Countries], must be Antwerp area, I think was Queen just after Anne Boleyn ?. He is also the [Master Michael Lock and Master William Winter]. Remember there is the Rev, Samuel Wynter who hopped off to Ireland with one William Markham (!!!). I am not sure who Michael Lock's wife is, I have a side note she might be [Jane Wilkinson ?]. These Lockes, Whitmore families in London, seem to be more associated with the Collins (of London + Bramford Suffolk) family there. You can note that this Michael Lock had a son? Eleazar Lock of Huntingdon (!!!). === http://www.our-genealogy.com/waite/ancestry-locke/sir-william-locke.html [Sir William Locke was employed by Henry VIII., having the charge of his commercial affairs 'both at home and abroad'. In the Cottonian Library, London, are several manuscript letters from him to the King, and to Secretary Cromwell, dated at Antwerp, in 1533-4, 1535 and 1538, relating to some works carrying on at Calais, concerning negotiations with France and about the woollen trade. He was, says Collins, 'Particularly employed by Queen Anne Bullen, [Boleyn] privately to gather the Epistles, Gospels and Psalms, from beyond sea, in which he ran great hazard, some having been secretly made away with, for attempting the same thing.' He had four wives, (see the chart, p. 358-9,) and twenty or more children, many of which died young. The name of his first wife has been variously given by different writers; some say it was Alice Spence, and others Elizabeth Spencer. Anciently the names of Elizabeth and Alice were convertible, one for the other.]. [Michael Lok is son of Sir Wm. Lok, Knight, Alderman of London]. One is for sure, there is an almighty tree waiting here. These Lockes were also Mayors of London, and there is going to be a huge connection to Queen Anne Bullen, and to Norfolk and Cornwall. I see that the 'Low Countries' is often mentioned to be 'Antwerp'. One would want to check Antwerp records all round too. These Lockes and Collins are, as we are finding out, quite connected to the 'Woollen trade'. They are involved in the export of fabrics etc., but maybe also importing on return journeys maybe other fabrics and also spices. These would be Royal merchants employed by the Queen here. Already I feel this Lock and Collins family here in London, will be associated quite a lot even 100 years before others left for New England etc. Sir William Locke's one wife is said to be Anne Spence(r)(or Elizabeth Spencer). I can only suppose this must be a huge royal connection exceptionally close to the Queen Anne Boleyn ?. I don't think he m. much further than a niece of the Queen which is why he is employed by her being related. To 'Bullen' and Locke in Norfolk and related families, and even maybe to Cornwall. [Sir William Locke died at the age of about 64, on the 24th, and was buried in Mercers' Chapel (St. Thomas of Acres) 27-08-1550.]. http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWorshipful_Company_of_Mercers&ei=Afy6TJKlHoL14AaXk_zwDQ&usg=AFQjCNE-vwa954WQuL2X1MW8ZZEpmG1GzA&sig2=qqNX1qqZBl0XRi-Qm_TvrQ === === === I read somewhere that the word 'Mercer' in 'Spanish? was similar to that of 'Haberdasher'. - S.K.M. - [!!!] =======================
Do you have Zachariah (Zach) Collins that married Wealthy Beaman 1802 in Johnston Cty, NC? fawn ----- Original Message ----- From: jandbill@aol.com To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Hezekiah was my 4th great-grand uncle according to my family tree program. Jackie -----Original Message----- From: collinsroots <collinsroots@aol.com> To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:42 am Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Hi, Jackie: 'm guessing this is not mine...Hezekiah DID go to Ohio, but he was still in irginia in 1832...his first five children were all born in Virginia, and only is sixth, in 1848, was born in Ohio. hat's interesting, though...I wonder if the two could be related? The name ezekiah is quite unusual...maybe they were cousins?? What is your connection o him? aura -----Original Message----- rom: jandbill <jandbill@aol.com> o: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> ent: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 3:41 am ubject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Laura, e have a Hezekiah Collings/Collins who was in Madison Co.,Ohio in 1832 when his fathers estate was settled. I don't know what happened to him after that but ould be yours???? ackie andbill@gmail.com -----Original Message----- rom: collinsroots <collinsroots@aol.com> o: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> ent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 11:54 pm ubject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 hank you, Marilyn! I will check out both of these links...you never know. aura ----Original Message----- om: Mansion on Main <mansiononmain1@windstream.net> : collins <collins@rootsweb.com> nt: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 2:40 pm bject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 saw the following information online, which you may already have seen: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/COLLINS/1997-08/0872532702 ttp://www.lanhamsource.com/getperson.php?personID=I276&tree=T1 arilyn ---- Original Message ----- om: <collinsroots@aol.com> : <collins@rootsweb.com> nt: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:51 PM bject: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Looking for Hezekiah Collins, born 1810, Virginia. He married Sarah Jane Wood in Albemarle County, Virginia in 1832. He died in Lane County, Oregon, in 1886. Does anyone have a connection, or does anyone have any advice for how I can find Hezekiah's family? I am at a brick wall, here. Any thoughts welcome. Thanks! Laura BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ----------------------------- unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of e message SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ----------------------------- unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com th the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of e message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hezekiah was my 4th great-grand uncle according to my family tree program. Jackie -----Original Message----- From: collinsroots <collinsroots@aol.com> To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 10:42 am Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Hi, Jackie: 'm guessing this is not mine...Hezekiah DID go to Ohio, but he was still in irginia in 1832...his first five children were all born in Virginia, and only is sixth, in 1848, was born in Ohio. hat's interesting, though...I wonder if the two could be related? The name ezekiah is quite unusual...maybe they were cousins?? What is your connection o him? aura -----Original Message----- rom: jandbill <jandbill@aol.com> o: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> ent: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 3:41 am ubject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Laura, e have a Hezekiah Collings/Collins who was in Madison Co.,Ohio in 1832 when his fathers estate was settled. I don't know what happened to him after that but ould be yours???? ackie andbill@gmail.com -----Original Message----- rom: collinsroots <collinsroots@aol.com> o: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> ent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 11:54 pm ubject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 hank you, Marilyn! I will check out both of these links...you never know. aura ----Original Message----- om: Mansion on Main <mansiononmain1@windstream.net> : collins <collins@rootsweb.com> nt: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 2:40 pm bject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 saw the following information online, which you may already have seen: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/COLLINS/1997-08/0872532702 ttp://www.lanhamsource.com/getperson.php?personID=I276&tree=T1 arilyn ---- Original Message ----- om: <collinsroots@aol.com> : <collins@rootsweb.com> nt: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:51 PM bject: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Looking for Hezekiah Collins, born 1810, Virginia. He married Sarah Jane Wood in Albemarle County, Virginia in 1832. He died in Lane County, Oregon, in 1886. Does anyone have a connection, or does anyone have any advice for how I can find Hezekiah's family? I am at a brick wall, here. Any thoughts welcome. Thanks! Laura BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ----------------------------- unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of e message SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ----------------------------- unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com th the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of e message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message
Trish Your Pickney Quinn went to Wayne county Missouri. His wife Mary died or was not listed on the 1860 census but there was a daughter Elizabeth one year old. According to other researchers [Google "Pickney Quinn Collins"], Pickney was shot 1862. The census records Henderson O., William A., Martha E., and Joseph children in the family in addition to Elizabeth. There was also a Berry Collins, also born NC, that stayed close to Pinkney in each census. A good bet they might be related? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alice Sanders" <sanders922@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 2:37 PM To: <collins@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > The Rev. War pension record didn't name any of his family, just were he > remembered serving, where he lived. I have a file of research done > for pay on southern Collins families done by a fellow, Leonardo Andrea. I > found this file at a Mormon Family History Center years ago and copied > it off. There was only one item that was not true and that was on my > family. The rest is mostly census, court records, land records, etc. If > you contact me off site I will send you the file via attachment. It's a > pretty big file. sanders922@comcast.net > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "trishw4" <trishw4@cox.net> > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 12:44 PM > To: <collins@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > >> Hey Alice: I'm searching for a Pinkney Quinn Collins born 1819, North >> Carolina for decades. Would you happen to know Hezekiah Collins' >> children >> listed in his application. >> Would be most appreciative. >> Trish Collins >> >> >> Dear Laura and Jackie >> May I put in a two cents worth here? There is a Rev. War pension >> application record for a Hezekiah Collins. He said he served as a >> private >> in the Cont. line from Virginia, enlisting in Albermarle County, Virginia >> in >> >> 1777. He was applying for a pension from Union Township, Madison >> County, Ohio [14 May 1832]. His application was denied because no record >> of >> >> his name could be found as serving in Virginia. I hope this >> can help either or both of you. >> Alice >> >> >> BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hey Alice: I'm searching for a Pinkney Quinn Collins born 1819, North Carolina for decades. Would you happen to know Hezekiah Collins' children listed in his application. Would be most appreciative. Trish Collins Dear Laura and Jackie May I put in a two cents worth here? There is a Rev. War pension application record for a Hezekiah Collins. He said he served as a private in the Cont. line from Virginia, enlisting in Albermarle County, Virginia in 1777. He was applying for a pension from Union Township, Madison County, Ohio [14 May 1832]. His application was denied because no record of his name could be found as serving in Virginia. I hope this can help either or both of you. Alice
The Rev. War pension record didn't name any of his family, just were he remembered serving, where he lived. I have a file of research done for pay on southern Collins families done by a fellow, Leonardo Andrea. I found this file at a Mormon Family History Center years ago and copied it off. There was only one item that was not true and that was on my family. The rest is mostly census, court records, land records, etc. If you contact me off site I will send you the file via attachment. It's a pretty big file. sanders922@comcast.net -------------------------------------------------- From: "trishw4" <trishw4@cox.net> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 12:44 PM To: <collins@rootsweb.com> Subject: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > Hey Alice: I'm searching for a Pinkney Quinn Collins born 1819, North > Carolina for decades. Would you happen to know Hezekiah Collins' children > listed in his application. > Would be most appreciative. > Trish Collins > > > Dear Laura and Jackie > May I put in a two cents worth here? There is a Rev. War pension > application record for a Hezekiah Collins. He said he served as a private > in the Cont. line from Virginia, enlisting in Albermarle County, Virginia in > > 1777. He was applying for a pension from Union Township, Madison > County, Ohio [14 May 1832]. His application was denied because no record of > > his name could be found as serving in Virginia. I hope this > can help either or both of you. > Alice > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi, Jackie: I'm guessing this is not mine...Hezekiah DID go to Ohio, but he was still in Virginia in 1832...his first five children were all born in Virginia, and only his sixth, in 1848, was born in Ohio. That's interesting, though...I wonder if the two could be related? The name Hezekiah is quite unusual...maybe they were cousins?? What is your connection to him? Laura -----Original Message----- From: jandbill <jandbill@aol.com> To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 3:41 am Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Laura, We have a Hezekiah Collings/Collins who was in Madison Co.,Ohio in 1832 when his fathers estate was settled. I don't know what happened to him after that but could be yours???? Jackie Jandbill@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: collinsroots <collinsroots@aol.com> To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 11:54 pm Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Thank you, Marilyn! I will check out both of these links...you never know. aura -----Original Message----- rom: Mansion on Main <mansiononmain1@windstream.net> o: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> ent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 2:40 pm ubject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 saw the following information online, which you may already have seen: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/COLLINS/1997-08/0872532702 http://www.lanhamsource.com/getperson.php?personID=I276&tree=T1 Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- rom: <collinsroots@aol.com> o: <collins@rootsweb.com> ent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:51 PM ubject: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Looking for Hezekiah Collins, born 1810, Virginia. He married Sarah Jane Wood in Albemarle County, Virginia in 1832. He died in Lane County, Oregon, in 1886. Does anyone have a connection, or does anyone have any advice for how I can find Hezekiah's family? I am at a brick wall, here. Any thoughts welcome. Thanks! Laura BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Laura and Jackie May I put in a two cents worth here? There is a Rev. War pension application record for a Hezekiah Collins. He said he served as a private in the Cont. line from Virginia, enlisting in Albermarle County, Virginia in 1777. He was applying for a pension from Union Township, Madison County, Ohio [14 May 1832]. His application was denied because no record of his name could be found as serving in Virginia. I hope this can help either or both of you. Alice -------------------------------------------------- From: <collinsroots@aol.com> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:42 AM To: <collins@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > Hi, Jackie: > > > I'm guessing this is not mine...Hezekiah DID go to Ohio, but he was still > in Virginia in 1832...his first five children were all born in Virginia, > and only his sixth, in 1848, was born in Ohio. > > > That's interesting, though...I wonder if the two could be related? The > name Hezekiah is quite unusual...maybe they were cousins?? What is your > connection to him? > > > Laura > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jandbill <jandbill@aol.com> > To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 3:41 am > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > > > > Laura, > We have a Hezekiah Collings/Collins who was in Madison Co.,Ohio in 1832 > when his > fathers estate was settled. I don't know what happened to him after that > but > could be yours???? > Jackie > Jandbill@gmail.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: collinsroots <collinsroots@aol.com> > To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 11:54 pm > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > > > Thank you, Marilyn! I will check out both of these links...you never > know. > > aura > > > -----Original Message----- > rom: Mansion on Main <mansiononmain1@windstream.net> > o: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> > ent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 2:40 pm > ubject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > > saw the following information online, which you may already have seen: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/COLLINS/1997-08/0872532702 > http://www.lanhamsource.com/getperson.php?personID=I276&tree=T1 > Marilyn > ----- Original Message ----- > rom: <collinsroots@aol.com> > o: <collins@rootsweb.com> > ent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:51 PM > ubject: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > > Looking for Hezekiah Collins, born 1810, Virginia. > He married Sarah Jane Wood in Albemarle County, Virginia in 1832. > He died in Lane County, Oregon, in 1886. > > > Does anyone have a connection, or does anyone have any advice for how I > can find Hezekiah's family? I am at a brick wall, here. Any thoughts > welcome. Thanks! > > > Laura > > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Laura, We have a Hezekiah Collings/Collins who was in Madison Co.,Ohio in 1832 when his fathers estate was settled. I don't know what happened to him after that but could be yours???? Jackie Jandbill@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: collinsroots <collinsroots@aol.com> To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 11:54 pm Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Thank you, Marilyn! I will check out both of these links...you never know. aura -----Original Message----- rom: Mansion on Main <mansiononmain1@windstream.net> o: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> ent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 2:40 pm ubject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 saw the following information online, which you may already have seen: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/COLLINS/1997-08/0872532702 http://www.lanhamsource.com/getperson.php?personID=I276&tree=T1 Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- rom: <collinsroots@aol.com> o: <collins@rootsweb.com> ent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:51 PM ubject: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Looking for Hezekiah Collins, born 1810, Virginia. He married Sarah Jane Wood in Albemarle County, Virginia in 1832. He died in Lane County, Oregon, in 1886. Does anyone have a connection, or does anyone have any advice for how I can find Hezekiah's family? I am at a brick wall, here. Any thoughts welcome. Thanks! Laura BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message
Thank you, Marilyn! I will check out both of these links...you never know. Laura -----Original Message----- From: Mansion on Main <mansiononmain1@windstream.net> To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 2:40 pm Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 I saw the following information online, which you may already have seen: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/COLLINS/1997-08/0872532702 http://www.lanhamsource.com/getperson.php?personID=I276&tree=T1 Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <collinsroots@aol.com> To: <collins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:51 PM Subject: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > Looking for Hezekiah Collins, born 1810, Virginia. > He married Sarah Jane Wood in Albemarle County, Virginia in 1832. > He died in Lane County, Oregon, in 1886. > > > Does anyone have a connection, or does anyone have any advice for how I > can find Hezekiah's family? I am at a brick wall, here. Any thoughts > welcome. Thanks! > > > Laura > > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I saw the following information online, which you may already have seen: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/COLLINS/1997-08/0872532702 http://www.lanhamsource.com/getperson.php?personID=I276&tree=T1 Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <collinsroots@aol.com> To: <collins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:51 PM Subject: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > Looking for Hezekiah Collins, born 1810, Virginia. > He married Sarah Jane Wood in Albemarle County, Virginia in 1832. > He died in Lane County, Oregon, in 1886. > > > Does anyone have a connection, or does anyone have any advice for how I > can find Hezekiah's family? I am at a brick wall, here. Any thoughts > welcome. Thanks! > > > Laura > > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Looking for Hezekiah Collins, born 1810, Virginia. He married Sarah Jane Wood in Albemarle County, Virginia in 1832. He died in Lane County, Oregon, in 1886. Does anyone have a connection, or does anyone have any advice for how I can find Hezekiah's family? I am at a brick wall, here. Any thoughts welcome. Thanks! Laura
?MGC: I thought you might find this of interest: Carrying on from John Bedle of Barnston Essex: [John Watson married Abigail Beadle, daughter of John Beadle]. I don't have all the info. This is the Thomas Watson chap: http://timmybrister.com/2008/03/11/who-is-thomas-watson-2/ [1646: Watson went to St. Stephen's, Walbrook, London, where he served as lecturer for about ten years, and as rector for another six years, filling the place of Ralph Robinson]. So here we find one Ralph Robinson and there is also one John Robinson whom I can only suppose must be of near kin?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Robinson_%28pastor%29 This is the John Robinson on the 'Mayflower'. [1604: Robinson became pastor of St. Andrew's Church, Norwich]. [1606: He left the Church of England and became a Separatist. Later that year, a group of Puritans in the nearby village of Scrooby formed a Separatist congregation that came to number about one hundred members. John Robinson returned to Gainsborough and became a member of John Smyth's Separatist congregation that met, in secret, at Gainsborough Old Hall under the protection of its Lord, Sir William Hickman and his mother, Rose. However, at some point, he seems to have joined up again with the Separatists in Scrooby. The congregation met at Scrooby Manor, the home of William Brewster. Brewster was the local postmaster and bailiff, and he was instrumental in the formation of the group. He was an old friend of John Robinson as well as a Cambridge alumnus. Richard Clyfton served as their minister, and John Robinson became the assistant pastor when he united with them. Other leaders included John and William Bradford, the latter of whom gave them the name by which they are known to history when he described himself and his followers as "pilgrims and strangers upon the earth.". The congregation initially settled in Amsterdam where Separatists began to settle as early as 1593. The local congregation of Separatists was strife-ridden, and the Pilgrims left Amsterdam after the first year and settled in Leyden. The Rev. John Robinson, M. A., went to settle in New England in 1620.]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Brewster_%28Pilgrim%29 William Brewster the Pilgrim: So the places of Scooby Lincs and Leydon Holland are important. You can note the surname of Smythe coming all over around these people. [He was the son of William Brewster and Mary (Smythe) (Simkinson) and he had a number of half-siblings. His paternal grandparents were William Brewster and Maud Mann. His maternal grandfather was Thomas Smythe. Scrooby Manor was in the possession of the Archbishops of York. Brewster's father, William senior, had been the estate bailiff for the archbishop for thirty-one years from around 1580.]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Mary_Woolnoth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Robinson_%28clergyman%29 This St. Mary Woolnoth is one hot spot church, it keeps coming up over and over off-list. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=DY8QwrhVw7gC&pg=PA32&dq=john+hawkins+samuel+collins&hl=en&ei=xEuwTLjQHdvNjAeg-uVK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDoQ6AEwBDgU#v=onepage&q=john%20hawkins%20samuel%20collins&f=false Put your mouse over the middle of the book page, press the 'Ctrl' button in and roll your mouse wheel forward and you can zoom in a bit on the small texts. [Elizabeth Markham sp: Martin Smith m:11-11-1656 Saint Mary Woolchurch Haw, London, England.]. [John Hawkins was the eldest son and heir of John Hawkins of Braintree]: See here: http://blainewhipple.com/collateral-ancestors/my-hawkins-ancestors-of-essex-co-england/ [John Hawkins III (Alderman of London)] is the son of [John Hawkins was the eldest son and heir of John Hawkins of Braintree]. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=34-WXsbaBscC&pg=PA32&dq=Edward+Collins+Levant+Company&hl=en&ei=bQCxTJiCH8jKjAe31p1A&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=snippet&q=Edward%20Collyns&f=false This has to be your (+-R) Edward Collyns before he came out to NE. Make good memory of each person mentioned in this list, it will help further. The surname of 'Salter' will also come in and about. For instance, note say Francis Cherye and John Eldred and Nicholas Leate. Go here to url below and then search for Collins in the text and then on the first hit your get [Edwarde Collins clotheworker]. I think this is your same Edward Collins of the Levant Company. Directly below him is [Fraunces Cherie vintener]. Scroll up a bit and you get [Thomas Symonds, Mr. John Eldred, Robarte Coxe grocer, Nicholas Leatt yremonger ]. http://www.sabrizain.org/malaya/library/dawnbritish.txt There nearby is: Thomas Hickock, Richard Wiche, , , , , , . [Collins, Edwarde, clothworker, adventurer.] [M* John Eldred acquainteth this Assemblie that one Thomas Eldred of Ipesw^ a man of good report who hath bene imployed w^ Capten Candishe is willing to be imployed in the voyage and would go as Capten or M*^ of one of the shippes, to whom aunswer is made that the Companie will enterteyn none vntill they see him and speake w^ him, and have willed that M* Eldred shall wiyte vnto him that he thinketh yf he come vp the Company are likelie to enterteyn him.] [Capten Candishe]: I suppose this must be Capt. Thomas Cavendish, and that is the famous Thomas Eldred 'Circumnavigator' of Ipswich Norfolk ?. === === === [To Thomas Bootheby a bill of adventure & supplies]. The James Markham property ['Bearcroft'] in EC was under one William Boosbey 'Tailor' ?. If you read the texts, Edward Collins seems to be shipping manufactured clothes around the world, to Turkey, Russia, etc. James Markham 'Weaver' would be part of the supply to this Edward Collins, he is clearly shipping clothes, and also an adventurer. He must have clocked up some serious voyager miles. He would be basically rich and famous in his day. I can only suppose when he wanted to reside in NE, James Markham's weaver business would have suffered much as a result of this. Due to the closeness of people in this L1 area of London, there would be closeness to other Markham lines etc. Below is same list: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=97cq2UASdIIC&pg=PA176&dq=william+smyth+london+salter&hl=en&ei=Zx-yTLTMEIWUjAen-_FO&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CFoQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=william%20smyth%20london%20salter&f=false That William Smyth there I can only suspect he must be the William Smyth 'Salter' of London ?. I need time for this, but it is close. But the basic picture is rising here. Also: [Thomas Smithe, Aldermen of London.] I suppose might also be the same [Thomas Smith Governor of the Levant Company.] ?. So it is all the Salters - Aldermen - Mayors - Companies we need to go into here. It is alongside this William Smyth 'Salter' is one John Markham L:1598. We need to know more on [Edwarde Collins, Clothworker + Adventurer]. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ======================
?To DDM'ers: Make sure to print this out for further reference. This has a particular ring to it, and worthy to come back to it. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=YUrZscw21gYC&pg=PA142&dq=Edward+Collins+Levant+Company&hl=en&ei=bQCxTJiCH8jKjAe31p1A&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEUQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Edward%20Collins%20Levant%20Company&f=false The problem came to Essex and clearly in and around Earls Colne and larger vicinity, that over 30 000 weavers mentioned .... in a single petition became basically destitute in the weaver industry and overall recession. Even many many nobles returned to their roots, and sold out and became farmers it seems. It is the extreme recession of the weaver industry that caused so much problems for James Markham of EC. I will come back to this page. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ============
?MGC: [Note]: I am sending this incomplete/unfinished posting as is. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=w3rSUVOarfoC&pg=PA1&dq=Matthew+Hopkins+witch+finder&hl=en&ei=2L2nTOe1BtjPjAfH18TDDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=Matthew%20Hopkins%20witch%20finder&f=false Read pages 1-6: What this story does not tell you here, is that the old Witch Finder General Matthew Hopkins later on was confronted himself. His one technique was to tie the supposed witch's right thumb to her left foot big toe, drag the person through a river with a rope, and see if they would float, if they floated, they were a wet witch, if they did not float, they were a dead wet witch. So they caught up with Matthew Hopkins and eventually did the same trick to him, he floated. Not sure, but he might have been executed (???). It seems many of these supposed witches apart from being old with the ''Gobber Tooth'', was the neighbourly arguments where one might want to report them as witches etc. http://blog.aurorahistoryboutique.com/matthew-hopkins-englands-witch-finder-general/ http://www.witchtrials.co.uk/matthew.html My identification of these Nathaniel Bacons Bramford + Ipswich area should be correct. You will note that Matthew Hopkins is the son of a vicar James Hopkins. The one pattern from the last url here, is that the vicar never mentions his son Matthew Hopkins (!!!). This must be intentional all round. In the first case, Matthew Hopkins was not born yet. But further much, it would seem that James Hopkins had disassociated himself from his son Matthew Hopkins some what. In James Hopkins will 1634, he makes no mention of his son Matthew Hopkins. Who does James Hopkins make his executors of his will: [Worthy frinds Mr John Gurden of Wenham aforesaid, & Mr Natthaniell Bacon]. I am thinking this might be the father Nathaniel + Mary Bacon ?. There is some grey area of where MH obtained education and might have been outside England. However: [The first factual and physical evidence that he was back and resident in England was found in the Suffolk Record Office, where a conveyance for a tenement in Bramford near Ipswich 1641]. So Matthew Hopkins actually has a piece of land right here in Bramford 1641 (!!!). I have just had to go back and my last post.... [Matthew Hopkins was also able to call on influential family friends to aid and pave the way for his future campaign. In his fathers will, one of the executors was a Nathaniel Bacon (1593-1660) the third son of Edward Bacon of Shrubland Hall. According to the 'Tendring Witchcraft Revelations', he was an extreme Puritan and violently anti-Catholic. In 1643, he was elected the Recorder of Ipswich, and later Recorder of Bury St Edmonds.]. OK, so this Nathaniel Bacon in the will is the NB 'Recorder of Ipswich' d:1660. So, it seems to me, anyway, that this NB 'Recorder' is connected/related, but clearly not the NB (+Mary) of Chattisham (!!!). So in this whole region outside and near to Ipswich, Matthew Hopkins is watching and waiting. Before I forget, the Thomas? Bacon who m. LORE, was her surname 'Clarke' ?. "Every old woman with a wrinkled face, a furrowed brow, a hairy lip, a gobber tooth, a squint eye, a squeaking voice or scolding tongue, having a rugged coat on her back, a skull-cap on her head, a spindle in her hand and a dog or cat by her side, is not only suspect but pronounced for a witch" - John Gaule in 'Select Cases of Conscience'. But Matthew Hopkins should have passed away: [''peacefully, after a long sicknesse of a Consumption'']. The names of the 'imps' were I suppose in many cases, the names of pet animals: [Her confession alledged that she kept and nourished five familiars, Holt - a white kitten, Jarmara - a fat spaniel, Sack and Sugar - a black rabbit, Newes - a polecat and Vinegar Tom - a long legged greyhound with a head like an ox, broad eyes and a long tail.]. I can only assume so far, that Hopkins must have been close to family members too, and some of them also became subsequent to his demise. I can only surmise Hopkins never liked his grandmother. But of good note: Nathaniel Bacon 'Recorder of Ipswich' father is Edward Bacon of Shrubland Hall. But Andrew Bacon uncle of the Nathaniel Bacon of Bramford etc., descend from Thomas Bacon of Bramford. It still seems to me that this Nathaniel Bacon ''of Bramford'', who must be living close to this unfortunate Matthew Hopkins, watching everybody, did a dirty to Nathaniel + Mary Bacon of Chattisham. The Nathaniel Bacon 'Recorder of Ipswich' is probably not the brother of Andrew Bacon of Bramford, but rather in the region of a first cousin or thereabouts. Andrew Bacon's brother might be [Nathaniel (+ Mary) Bacon of Chattisham] ?. Roughly 20 before 1600 the Vere and Bacon families were hugely connected to Earls Colne (Sir Nicholas Bacon). The one John Eldred??? m. a Harlakenden heiress ?. Abigail Collins m:1586 at Bramford to Samuel Bedle, he was the Vicar of Woolverstone. http://books.google.co.za/books?ei=fQKnTK32H9HPjAfbnNHbDA&ct=result&id=LO8QAAAAIAAJ&dq=Abigail+Wagger+Bramford&q=Bramford#search_anchor Is there some chance I can get at least a photo/picture/copy of the pages say from pg. 76-80 of this volume ?. The Daniel Markham's uncle Edward Collins in NE, to whom the Daniel Collins 'Merchant of London' mentions, are obviously related. It is only the John Collens father of Sibbel Colenes who needs to be better known. But more so if you can see it, most people connected to these people are landed up in Hadley CT etc. - S.K.M. - [!!!] =======================
?MGC: See Pg.273-5: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=DwxQ8YnX-C0C&pg=PA274&dq=john+hawkins+samuel+collins&hl=en&ei=XEKwTKDTI4qRjAfVoLlu&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=john%20hawkins%20samuel%20collins&f=false The DDM'ers need to make some good note of some the items I putting out here, I might be on to something. The Mark Mott of Braintree in question is the one who has a son Adrian Mott of Braintree. The primary John Hawkins of Braintree is also Alderman of London, who is also neighbour to Joseph Loomis of Braintree + London. We need to stake out all the people in positions near and around here. Barkham is not Markham, and I am not following just it. It would probably this or close Rev. John Wilson family that into Abraham Markham's side of things ?. This 'Little' family is definitely around, must be sought further. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=_3lnAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA255&dq=john+hawkins+samuel+collins&hl=en&ei=xEuwTLjQHdvNjAeg-uVK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBzgU#v=onepage&q=john%20hawkins%20samuel%20collins&f=false [1632: Jan. 18. 42. John Debnam and Samuel Smyth, churchwardens of Braintree, to the same. Since the Bishop of London's last court their minister, Samuel Collins, has conformed himself to the orders of the Church of England. [Indorsed by Bishop Laud. Half a page.]]. Dr. Samuel Collins is lucky, he has the Alderman of London (Hawkins) on his side, but SC also conforms as such. I read a note that the US Adams President made a trip to Earls Colne. [John Debnam and Samuel Smyth, churchwardens of Braintree]: This 'Smyth' family is the one catching my eye here. See below: http://books.google.co.za/books?ei=XEKwTKDTI4qRjAfVoLlu&ct=result&id=K5VpAAAAMAAJ&dq=john+hawkins+samuel+collins&q=markham#search_anchor Keep in mind too that this Goodwin family is also close and part of the picture in EN + NE. [William Bassett, John Markham, William Smyth of London 'Salter', 11-1598, John Goodwin deceased, Archdeaconry of Surrey]: This is from the book on the English Goodwins of Hartford CT, as we would say here 'nog al !!!'. That's a good TL to have a Markham coming in and to the 'Salters of London'. You must this Markham to the Top 10 (!!!). Can you find more on him, who is he ?. http://books.google.co.za/books?ei=AHCwTMjqOMfKjAe19YRc&ct=result&id=XmAHAQAAIAAJ&dq=William+Smyth+Salter+Farringdon&q=Smyth+Salter#search_anchor [Nicholas Gooding of Ludney parish of Garnethorpe (Grainthorpe?) Will n August 1661 ; proved 18 August 1662. To my only child Tommas £10. Residuary legatee and executrix: Elizabeth my wife. Witness : John Markham.] [To my daughter Mary, wife of Robert Aylett of Braintree, clothier, my messuage in Braintree in the occupation of Samuel Smyth, with remainder at her decease to her eldest son Thomas Aylett, charged with the payment of £10 to John Steele.] [John Debnam and Samuel Smyth, churchwardens of Braintree]. This 'Goodwyn' family also comes in a lot. +-R: Here is a nice piece of info for you: [1632: May 31 107 Dr Samuel Collins to Bishop Laud Has come with a kinsman whom he desires may be admitted to the rectory of Barnston which my Lord offered the writer Prays the Bishop when they come before him to let the person to be admitted know that the Bishop expects some account upon what terms the writer is settled at Braintree and to give the writer charge to suppress all conventicles of both sexes to keep his people to conformity in receiving the Sacrament and to intimate that few things are spoken or done at Braintree but come to the Bishop's ear These things spoken at this present will settle this young man in a conformable way and may procure the writer much peace One page.]. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=vpt7P_ZgCyoC&pg=PA32&dq=Samuel+Collins+Barnston&hl=en&ei=lM-wTOvYKNSRjAeknYyBAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Samuel%20Collins%20Barnston&f=false [1632: Dr. Samuel Collins to Bishop Laud has come with a kinsman whom he desires may be admitted to the rectory of Barnston]: This then would be none other than John Bedle M.A. who came there in 1632 ''on the resignation of Mr. Wright''. This is the same John Bedle who became Chaplain to the Earl of Warwick (Rich). http://massarch.blogspot.com/2007/11/edward-winslow.html [(Governor) Edward Winslow was apprenticed to London printer John Beadle in 1615 and subsequently posted to Leiden in Holland, where he assisted William Brewster and Thomas Brewer in their publishing of religious books that were illegal in England. In 1618 when he married his first wife Ellen (Elizabeth) Barker (b:1597 d:1621) in Leiden, he was described as a printer of London. It is likely that through his apprenticeship with Beadle that he became acquainted with John Robinson's Separatist church. John Beadle later had an ecclesiastical career beginning in 1623 in Little Leighs, a stronghold of nonconformity. He came under the influence of Thomas Hooker, then lecturer at St. Mary's, Chelmsford. Beadle himself became a leading dissenter in Barnston, where he was pastor from 1632 to 1662. In 1656 Beadle wrote his one book, "A Journal or Diary of a Thankful Christian". Winslow's first wife Elizabeth, was called a "spinster from Chatsum in England", which refers either to Chattisham, Suffolk or Chatham, Kent. She was born around 1597 and was among those who died the first year at Plymouth. Edward and Elizabeth did not have any children together. Both left Leiden with the congregation and sailed aboard the Mayflower in 1620.]: I thought this was interesting stuff: I suppose 'Lees' is probably 'Little Leighs'. This brings you right into the arena of Governor Edward Winslow. So this John Bedle was before a London printer (!!!). The New England Governor was actually apprenticed to this John Bedle (!!!). [Note]: The minister succeeding Dr. Samuel Collins of Braintree is one John Argor (!!!) [Note: Some say 'Igor' ?]. [Thomas Watson (c. 1620-1686). Excerpt from Meet the Puritans by Dr. Joel Beeke: Thomas Watson was probably born in Yorkshire. He studied at Emmanuel College, Cambridge, earning a Bachelor of Arts degree in 1639 and a Master of Arts degree in 1642. Watson lived for a time with the Puritan family of Lady Mary Vere, the widow of Sir Horace Vere, baron of Tilbury. In 1646, Watson went to St. Stephen's, Walbrook, London, where he served as lecturer for about ten years, and as rector for another six years, filling the place of Ralph Robinson. In about 1647, Watson married Abigail Beadle, daughter of John Beadle, an Essex minister of Puritan convictions. They had at least seven children in the next thirteen years; four of them died young.]: See more here: http://timmybrister.com/2008/03/11/who-is-thomas-watson-2/ http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/henry-f-henry-fitz-gilbert-waters/genealogical-gleanings-in-england-parts-i-xxiiixxv-volume-1-eta/page-89-genealogical-gleanings-in-england-parts-i-xxiiixxv-volume-1-eta.shtml This William + Abigail Markham of Ipswich EN must also go into Top 10 for Markham. He should be the 'Chamberlain' there alongside one Hervey/Harvey. This William Markham's TL is roughly parallel to that of James Markham of EC. He would be b. just after 1600 sometime or so. He is NOT the WM1621 of NE. But he certainly comes right into this same Ward family of WM1621. This WM of Ipswich EN seems to be both 'Ale Merchant' + 'Chamberlain'. From the above ref.: [John Sym of Leigh in Essex, Clerk]: Which 'Leigh' is this ?. OK Artes, Dale, ler Jakes, +-R, Cosynes, from the above ref., it mentions John Sym of Leigh in Essex (!!!). There is one thing about [John Sym of Leigh in Essex], he should directly associate himself with: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=R1wLAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA397&dq=John+Sym+of+Leigh&hl=en&ei=RumwTP_RF8-TjAfgmJlC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=John%20Sym%20of%20Leigh&f=false .... Dr. Samuel Collins vicar of Braintree who was succeeded by [the otherwise admirable] John Argor of Leigh + Braintree. John Beadle presented to Little Leighs 1623 and Barnston 1632. This John Sym of Leigh seems to be of this same place of Little Leighs, is that correct ?. This is a phrase one might want to remember: The 'Earl of Warwick's Clergy'. This will pertain to Robert Rich, 2nd Earl of Warwick, under whom several clergy would fall including Dr. Samuel Collins of Braintree EN. Simply put, Dr. Samuel Collins of Braintree, John Argor, John Bedle, John Sym, William Markham of Ipswich, the Wards, and Markhams of Woolverstone, and Markhams of EC, are of extreme closeness at least via connections etc. Extreme .... http://books.google.co.za/books?id=aD9bVaX9HdIC&pg=PA316&dq=John+Sym+of+Leigh&hl=en&ei=RumwTP_RF8-TjAfgmJlC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CD0Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=John%20Sym%20of%20Leigh&f=false ==== http://books.google.co.za/books?id=DtfEzbeZXtgC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=William+Smyth+Salter+London&source=bl&ots=iAeXgujouC&sig=ww2E5B3T5JOyc5LchVZWs4gMAns&hl=en&ei=_26wTMxXw546q7PIzwU&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CCwQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Collyns&f=false You can notice the Edward Collins there. This is under [The Governor and Company of Merchants of London trading into the Levant Seas]. You can take note of other familiar surnames there: Martyn, Clarke, Smithe, Leete, John Eldred, Jackson, Wrighte, Locke, Edward Collyns, William Smyth, Richard Wrag, Humfrey Robinson, etc. [John Eldred + Edward Collyns]: This John Eldred here should be the same Alderman/Mayor chap. I can only suspect so far, that 'uncle' Edward Collins obviously had a life in England. OK, here I am not sure, but is this document dated [LEVANT COMPANY 43 Eliz.] ?. That is 1558+43=1601 ?. This Edward Collins can not be the Edward Collins in NE that is for sure. The NE Ed. Collins would only be b:1603 Bramford, since he has to be the same generation as Martha Collins of Earls Colne. Whatever. This Edward Collins must be better understood further. From my own thoughts and research, there seems to be a missing person anyways, and Bramford records are only partial, since they make no mention of any offspring from the first m. of John Collens 'Sailcloth Maker' etc. [Leavant=Turkey]. I 'think' some of these Levant Company merchants also extended into Russia ?. This Collins tree is affecting the Markham tree vice versa to. Not all your fault +-R. Any single correction in these trees will go a long way. What I am seeing, is that this Collins merchants must have been seriously huge, about as high as it gets in fact. I think that would be well said and written. Huge !!!. Along the lines or close to any other famous navigators of that time. One reason I can think of so far, is that the Daniel + John 'brothers' Collins of Bramford, are not mentioned maybe with a half brother from one of their father's previous marriages ?. It would be from the first m. that there might be at least one son or offspring. This Edward Collins of London merchant living 1601 is a huge clue here. Read this page for what it is worth: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=njlOAAAAYAAJ&pg=PT676&dq=Edward+Collins+Levant+Company&hl=en&ei=bQCxTJiCH8jKjAe31p1A&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Collins&f=false - S.K.M. - [!!!] ==========================
?MGC: Foreword: I suggest the DDM researchers make good note of this post and keep and pursue this informations (!!!). I am not sure if I am hitting on something good here !!!. We know that most of these London Mayors and to Norwich Norfolk are generally connected or related somehow. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=F6c9AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA451&dq=John+Hawkins+Alderman+London&hl=en&ei=EfWsTOvjOMeOjAeTuYDOCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false http://books.google.co.za/books?ei=X_GsTPDUENHPjAeshZDMCw&ct=result&id=54NnAAAAMAAJ&dq=John+Hawkins+Braintree+Weavers+Drapers&q=Twenty-Four#search_anchor [*** ***: John Hawkins of Braintree, was a member of the Weavers and Drapers companies, London Alderman and Master of the Drapers. Principal supporter of the Vicar Samuel Collins, and himself a leading member of the town's Company of Twenty-Four.]: This would be the same Samuel Collins Vicar of Braintree Essex EN. This John Hawkins is high rank in the London Weaver's Company, and also Alderman 1628. One of the Mark Mott, Gent., Clothier of Braintree Essex, is an influential member of the Company of Twenty-Four. This is probably the Mark Mott (There are several all closely related) who connects to James Markham 'Weaver' of Wethersfield + EC. [A woollen draper or merchant engaged in buying cloth from weavers who worked on hand looms. ... entry in the same Subsidy Record, dated 1633, refers to Joseph Loomis as called by John Hawkins of Braintree "a loving friend and neighbour.]: A woollen draper is also a merchant. I can only so far assume that in Braintree Joseph Loomis and John Hawkins are neighbours (!!!). Doesn't Joseph Loomis have something to do with the power? loom ?. [*** ***: Vicar of Braintree Samuel Collins is a leading Member of the Company of Twenty-Four.], [Mark Mott, Gent., Clothier of Braintree Essex, an influential Member of the Company of Twenty-Four]: I have a feeling this could make some sort of break through for something here. It needs to be pursued further. [Mark Mott, gent., was a substantial Braintree clothier, a passive but probably influential member of the company of Twenty-Four on which his younger son Adrian was always prominent. His elder son was Dr. Mark Mott, Rector of Rayne.]. === === === The one name that catches my eye is [LITTLE]. One of the persons to always make note of, is one Richard Harlakenden, he always seems to be closer to this Markham family of EC. See Pg. 163-4: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=WAgIAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA164&dq=John+Little+Halstead&hl=en&ei=beGtTKeWDMzY4wablvGqBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=John%20Little%20Halstead&f=false You need to make note of all persons and places all round here. I suspect that James and his wife Martha 'Goodwife' Markham must be of near kin to the Harlakenden family in EC. Martha seems to employed near to them, James the Weaver will fall under this Co. 24 of London etc., and Abraham Markham is probably the gardiner / horticultural person for many and large gardens that were in EC for this Harlakenden family, and Edward Markham in the army under the Harlakenden generals ?. One Richard Harlakenden of EC has a dg Anne who m02-09-1629 John Bragg whose male issue predeceased him, and the estates went to his next brother William Bragg Esq. of Lincoln's Inn, and he having no issue, the estates went to his sister Anne the wife of Geffrey Little second son of John Little of Parlabiens in parish of Halstead. Geffrey + Anne Little had children: John; Geffrey who m. Elizabeth dg of John Foster Alderman of London with no issue; Thomas Little DD prebendary of Norwich + Minister of Lynne; Elizabeth Little wife of George Pulford; Susanna + Anne etc. [Notes: Ballingdon Hall; Henry Spurling; Dynes Hall; Eden]. http://books.google.co.za/books?ei=X_GsTPDUENHPjAeshZDMCw&ct=result&id=54NnAAAAMAAJ&dq=John+Hawkins+Braintree+Weavers+Drapers&q=Hawkins+Braintree#search_anchor You can note the John Little of Halstead there. There is also one Francis Hawkins of Bocking who must relate closely to this John Hawkins of Braintree. I ''think'' both these Little + Hawkins families originate from Norfolk. I feel that this LITTLE family might need a strong review further and see what happens with it. I notice that persons high up in this Weavers Company carry the title of Gent. Another Hawkins is servant to Lord Maynard. === John Marcum, [Great Burstead Essex] m1:28-08-1603 Elizabeth Harris, [Great Burstead Essex] m2:03-10-1614 Alice Little, [Great Burstead Essex] * Name pattern wise, this Marcum just seems to have some chance ?. But this might be part of the other Markham family living in this town ?. === I have a note: One Jeffrey Little of Levenhall Suffolk has dg Sarah Little who m. James Collin of Chickney Hall Essex (!!!). This should be your (+-R) Collins family it seems. Should be. [DDM]: Hannah Markham, [Middletown CT][06-09-1716], m. Nathaniel Doo Little. === http://books.google.co.za/books?id=DY8QwrhVw7gC&pg=PA32&dq=John+Hawkins+Company+of+Twenty-Four&hl=en&ei=xgKtTNeiNoqRjAf6mvjiBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false I will try extract these picture pages some time, read fully pg. 32-33. This Hawkins family connects to the Whipple family of Ipswich MA and the Co. 24. http://books.google.co.za/books?ei=X_GsTPDUENHPjAeshZDMCw&ct=result&id=Azs3AAAAMAAJ&dq=John+Hawkins+Braintree+Weavers+Drapers&q=Braintree#search_anchor http://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.archive.org%2Fstream%2Fdescendantsofjos00inloom%2Fdescendantsofjos00inloom_djvu.txt&rct=j&q=Loomis%20Braintree&ei=9UOuTJTVFMLJswaHo6jNDQ&usg=AFQjCNFr66iCBs4Y4vw0baJqjiR1Qrli4A&cad=rja Joseph Loomis m. Mary White of Shelford Essex EN. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=HGH9ZschqT4C&pg=PA63&dq=John+Collins+Braintree&hl=en&ei=XKasTO2JEom9jAfkxdXWBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CEkQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=John%20Collins%20Braintree&f=false You must print and keep this page. (!!!). [Mr. Knoles and Mr. John Colling 'Ministers of the Gospel' in NE]: This John Colling is actually the Rev. John Collins who graduated H.C. 1649 the son of Daniel Markham's uncle Edward Collins of Cambridge NE. Can someone confirm or correct the following: I ''assume'' that the John Collins mentioned in Braintree MA, alongside the one John French (elder person?) chap, would be this same John Collins ?. Is that correct ?. Off-hand: It is in the region of this John French but probably his son John French that took the freedom oath in MA Bay together with Daniel Markham of Mystick River near to one Whitmore. Since Edward Collins son now in NE left NE back to EN, Daniel Collins was next in line to take over the church position that his uncle Edward Collins held in Cambridge NE, which he did, he became the Deacon Daniel Markham of Cambridge MA. === === === John Collins graduated HC 1649, returned to England, was chaplain to Gen. Monk, and afterwards pastor of an Independent Church in London, where he d:03-12-1687. 1639-40: John French and John Collins, of Monoticut (Braintree near Boston MA). Grant of land on the Monatiquot River was made to John Collins. In February 1639-40, only five months after the embodiment of the church, we find a grant of land to John French and John Collins, of Monoticut. Soon after 1643 the iron-works were built on ... === === === [Independent Church in London]: I wonder if this has anything to do with the Samuel Pordage (Walt Disney: ''The Mad Hatter'') church in London (???). = D/DU 161/244 : 21 September 1668 [Admission : John Aylett of Bocking, clothier, on surrender of Samuel COLLINS, Doctor of Medicine, and brother John COLLINS Parcel of waste at Susans Green, copyhold of manor of Braintree Steward: John Attwood, esquire]: We just need to find out the exact connection if any to the Marcum/Markham families in Bocking Essex (!!!). It must come to this John Little there etc. = His son Thomas settled in Braintree, and thence removed to Roxbury and Hadley (Savage). "Mr. Knoles and Mr. John Colling" mentioned as "Ministers of the Gospel" were the Rev. Hanserd Knollys and the Rev. John Collins. ============ - S.K.M. - [!!!] ============
My family line comes from Ebenezer and then to his son Jonas Ball (middle name mislabeled as "Brigham" below). I do have the lineage for Henry somewhere, but I'll have to dig to see where it might be. Below are the children of Ebenezer. This line is well recorded because Ebenezer's daughter, Martha, married David White Rogers and they were early followers of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, eventually moving to Utah. The LDS has a lot of information about that family. I do know that Henry had at least one son named Edward, because a son of Edward (Judge Otis?) wrote a memoir about his grandfather and his service with George Washington. This file belongs to someone other than me, but it's the best I can do for now: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lzrslong/b1061.htm#P156335 Ebenezer COLLINS4,5 was born on 23 Jul 1762 in Southboro, Worcester, Massachusetts.4,5 He died on 18 Jun 1881.4,5 He is reference number RO1306. [master ged.FTW] [1840319.FTW] !Sources: Caroline Rogers Smoot Temple records; 110 Mass S26; Rev. Robert F. Cheney of Southboro, Mass. - Death date as recorded on archive record. (age 119??) Parents: Ebenezer COLLINS and Meriah COLLINS. Spouse: Ann STOWE. Ebenezer COLLINS and Ann STOWE were married. Children were: Katy COLLINS, Maria COLLINS, Salvin Brigham COLLINS, Phebe COLLINS, Martha COLLINS, Jonas Brigham COLLINS, Joseph Brigham COLLINS, Louisa COLLINS, Caroline COLLINS. This is a second online source for that same family http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/o/r/Joseph-D-Cornwell-iii/GENE5-0009.html 56. Ebenezer Collins139,140, born 23 Jul, 1762 in Chatham, Columbia, NY; died 5 Mar, 1843 in Lockport, Will Co, IL. He was the son of 112. Ebenezer Collins and 113. Mariah Collins. He married 57. Annie Stow. 57. Annie Stow141,142, born 13 Jun, 1768 in Southboro, Worcester, MA; died 22 Oct, 1839 in Lockport, Will Co, IL. She was the daughter of 114. Manassah Stow and 115. Dinah Morse. Children of Ebenezer Collins and Annie Stow are: i. Katy Collins143, born 11 Feb, 1786 in Southborough, MA143. ii. Merriah Collins143, born 7 Nov, 1787143. iii. Salvin Barnes Collins144, born 20 Sep, 1789 in Marborough, NH145. iv. Phoebe Collins146, born 22 May, 1791 in Marborough, NH147; married Petty. v. Martha Collins148,149, born 22 Aug, 1793 in Berlin, VT150; died 18 Jun, 1881 in Provo, UT; married David White Rogers 5 Dec, 1811 in Montreal, Lower Canada. 28 vi. Jonas Ball Collins, born 3 May, 1795 in Berlin, VT; married Eleanor Hixa Brisco 28 Apr, 1833 in Warrick Co, IN. vii. Joseph Brigham Collins151, born 8 Oct, 1798 in Broome, Bedford Co, Lower Canada152; married Almira Whitman. viii. Annie Collins153, born 27 Dec, 1800 in Broome, Bedford Co, Lower Canada154. ix. Louisa Collins154, born 8 Jun, 1803 in Broome, Bedford Co, Lower Canada154. x. Caroline Collins154, born 1 Feb, 1806154; died 22 Oct, 1889. Henry COLLINS4,5 was born about 1768 in Mass, later of, Berlin, Washington, Vermont.4,5 He is reference number RO131204. Parents: Ebenezer COLLINS and Meriah COLLINS. ________________________________ rom: Sarah O'Connor <strangewayes@gmail.com> o: collins@rootsweb.com ent: Sun, October 3, 2010 8:50:53 AM ubject: Re: [COLLINS] Collins family from Brome county, Quebec That sounds possible - in poking through census records last night, I think hat Warren's father was Moses Collins. Are the descendants of Henry & Ebenezer Collins published anywhere? Thanks so much for that clue. I hope it matches up! ~Sarah n Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:32 PM, <boatkitten@aol.com> wrote: > My Collins family lived in Quebec, starting in 1795. But they had come to West Brome, Quebec from Vermont>New Hampshire>Massachusetts. These two brothers were descendants of "Henry the Starchmaker" Collins of Lynn, Mass. The two who migrated to Brome in 1795 were Henry Collins and Ebenezer Collins, both US veterans of the Revolutionary War (not Tories). Henry was the first settler in West Brome, and there is today a large "COLLINS" stone erected on the original cabin site by the Brome County Historical Society in 1895. (we drove up to visit this stone in 2001). They remained in Canada for 20 or 30 or so years, having many children there. Some children stayed behind - some serving in the Candian armed forces. Both brothers returned to the US by 1840, both moving to the Chicago area. (Henry to Lake County @ north end of Chicago, and Ebenezer to Will County near Joliet). Could your Charles Collins be a descendant of one of these brothers? Warren Collins sounds like he could be a grandson of one of these men. 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My Grandfather's twin, Patrick Collins, moved to Canada to fight during WWI. i know he stayed there for at least a while although i'm not sure where he ended up. My Grandfather was a spy and so all of his information and his family have been removed from the net. I've requested information from the Army and am waiting to receive it. I've also joined the OSS and am hoping to find some information out through them as well. Kathleen ________________________________ From: Sarah O'Connor <strangewayes@gmail.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 8:50:53 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Collins family from Brome county, Quebec That sounds possible - in poking through census records last night, I think that Warren's father was Moses Collins. Are the descendants of Henry & Ebenezer Collins published anywhere? Thanks so much for that clue. I hope it matches up! ~Sarah On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:32 PM, <boatkitten@aol.com> wrote: > > My Collins family lived in Quebec, starting in 1795. But they had come to > West Brome, Quebec from Vermont>New Hampshire>Massachusetts. > These two brothers were descendants of "Henry the Starchmaker" Collins of > Lynn, Mass. > > The two who migrated to Brome in 1795 were Henry Collins and Ebenezer > Collins, both US veterans of the Revolutionary War (not Tories). Henry was > the first settler in West Brome, and there is today a large "COLLINS" stone > erected on the original cabin site by the Brome County Historical Society in > 1895. (we drove up to visit this stone in 2001). > > They remained in Canada for 20 or 30 or so years, having many children > there. Some children stayed behind - some serving in the Candian armed > forces. Both brothers returned to the US by 1840, both moving to the Chicago > area. (Henry to Lake County @ north end of Chicago, and Ebenezer to Will > County near Joliet). > > Could your Charles Collins be a descendant of one of these brothers? > Warren Collins sounds like he could be a grandson of one of these men. > > Val > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
That sounds possible - in poking through census records last night, I think that Warren's father was Moses Collins. Are the descendants of Henry & Ebenezer Collins published anywhere? Thanks so much for that clue. I hope it matches up! ~Sarah On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:32 PM, <boatkitten@aol.com> wrote: > > My Collins family lived in Quebec, starting in 1795. But they had come to > West Brome, Quebec from Vermont>New Hampshire>Massachusetts. > These two brothers were descendants of "Henry the Starchmaker" Collins of > Lynn, Mass. > > The two who migrated to Brome in 1795 were Henry Collins and Ebenezer > Collins, both US veterans of the Revolutionary War (not Tories). Henry was > the first settler in West Brome, and there is today a large "COLLINS" stone > erected on the original cabin site by the Brome County Historical Society in > 1895. (we drove up to visit this stone in 2001). > > They remained in Canada for 20 or 30 or so years, having many children > there. Some children stayed behind - some serving in the Candian armed > forces. Both brothers returned to the US by 1840, both moving to the Chicago > area. (Henry to Lake County @ north end of Chicago, and Ebenezer to Will > County near Joliet). > > Could your Charles Collins be a descendant of one of these brothers? > Warren Collins sounds like he could be a grandson of one of these men. > > Val >