My 2nd great grandfather is John Anderson Collins born somewhere between 1846 and 1863. Some of our family say 1846 in Tennessee (nashville area?) others say 1863 in Missouri (Hannibal area?). All agree he was an orphan. Rumor has it he had 2 sisters and maybe 1 brother. One story says one day his father was walking to town and was conscripted into the army. No one knows which side or what happened to him. His name may have been William. John married Almeda Camp in Cedar CO, MO on 8 March 1877. Family tradition says that she too was an orphan. John died 21 April 1911, Louisburg, Kansas. I am totally stuck. Does this JOhn sound like anyone in your files? Thanks! Jacqui
-----Original Message----- From: Betty Melton Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 12:26 AM To: collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Early Carolinian Collins making some broad connections to your comments. Wondering if your Collins who drowned in Chesapeake could have been related??? (brothers?) to my Charles Collins b. Baltimore Md., m. Eliz. Chisley . He also drowned in Chesapeake about 1817. Had 2 sons Stephan a and John w.(b. 1816) both put in indenture because the mother could not care for them. Years later they were all reunited. John W. was a traveling preacher---I think. Stephan A. lived in Indiana. What do you think? -----Original Message----- From: Beverly I Cronk Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:55 AM To: collins@rootsweb.com Subject: [COLLINS] Early Carolinian Collins Since there were several Collins queries, I thought I would ask about the Collins I'm trying to find - my husband's gggg grandparents, James O. and Sarah McGraw Collins. James O. Collins was a sailor and drowned in the Chesapeake Bay in the early 1800s. I have no other information on James and Sarah. Their son, William Smith Collins was born in Somerset Maryland on 5/30/1799. William later travelled West to Louisville KY, where he learned how to lay bricks and met and wed Mary Ann Hoke, the daughter of Adam Hoke and Catherine Hoffheins. The young married couple later travelled to Carlisle, Sullivan County, Indiana (with other members of the Hoke family) where they had several children and acquired land. I am very curious about James and Sarah. Were they born in America or did they come from the British Isles? Did they have any other children? Was James a sailor for the navy or a private shipper? Was his body recovered? Who were the parents of James and Sarah? This first Collins couple I've found is one of my great challenges; I'd appreciate any information or suggestions. Thanking you in advance, Beverly Cronk ----- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy Semenyna <antiqdorothy@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:12 Subject: Re: [COLLINS] correction Re: early Carolinian Collins To: collins@rootsweb.com > I know little of my Collins ancestry other than it began with > Octavia Collins, my grandmother, who was a daughter of J. J. > (John/Jack) Collins a son of Jones Collins; Jones Collins 1797- > N.C., and JamesCollins 1758-1838 - N.C. If any of the names are > included in the document you described, I would like to have a > copy. I would be most appreciative of your efforts. Thank you. > > --- On Sat, 1/15/11, Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> wrote: > > > From: Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] correction Re: early Carolinian Collins > To: fenenga@connpoint.net, skersha@rootsweb.com, collins@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 5:12 PM > > > We’ve all been there. Southern research can be a challenge at > best and most of my family lines have a southern connection. > Have a Happy New year and good searching. > A. > PS Do you have all that file? It is pages long and I can send > it to you via an attachment if you want. > > From: fenenga@connpoint.net > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:17 PM > To: Alice Sanders ; skersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com > Subject: correction Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins > > my apologies, Alice, I have not had all of my facilities of late > due to health issues and stress and did not see that it was > Leonardo's work. my head is muddled from lack of sleep and > general malaise. it was an innocent mistake. I try to be > accurate and factual in my research as well, but being human, > there is always potential for mistakes. > > I am still relatively new to early southern research, though I > have been researching for 20 years. I'm just trying to find the > lost trail to my own ancestry. > > Cornelia > > > On Sat 01/15/11 11:08 AM , "Alice Sanders" > sanders922@comcast.net sent: > > > The information you have provided is from information I found > at a Mormon > Family History Library some years ago. > It is NOT research done by Connie Andrea but done by one late > Leonardo > Andrea for several clients. The file was > in the possession of Connie Andrea at the time it was donated > to the FHL. I > copied the file and have shared it with > many people over the years researching southern Collins > families. Each time > this information was shared I have > tried to be factual where the information came from and who > did the work. > Alice Sanders. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fenenga@connpoint.net > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:44 AM > To: sckersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins > > > > I have, among my relatives, a Louis Davis Collins, b. 26 Nov > 1832 AL > son of Lewis D. Collins b. abt 1790 S.C. and Cynthia b. abt > 1791 N.C.. > I wonder if there's a relationship here. > > herein is an excellent transcript of the genealogical research of > one Connie Andrea regarding the Collins of Kershaw Co., S.C. that > looks fairly promising of being the missing branch of my ancestry. > > http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [1] > > and my family tree with my Collins ancestors and relatives; > > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi- > bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 [2] > > anyone care to compare them and give an opinion? it's hard for > me to > tell if I'm following the correct lineage. just because I want > it to > be doesn't mean it is, and I want to get it right. > > thank you for your time and thoughts. > > best, > > Cornelia > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.wvi.us/collins/ > [2] > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi- > bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF > YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
making so broad connections to your comments. Wondering if your Collins who drowned in Chesapeake could have been related to my Charles Collins b. Baltimore Md., m. Eliz. Chisley . He also drowned in Chesapeake about 1817. Had 2 sons Stephan a and John w.(b. 1816) both put in indenture because the mother could not care for them. Years later they were all reunited. John W. was a traveling preacher---I think. Stephan A. lived in Indiana. What do you think? -----Original Message----- From: Beverly I Cronk Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:55 AM To: collins@rootsweb.com Subject: [COLLINS] Early Carolinian Collins Since there were several Collins queries, I thought I would ask about the Collins I'm trying to find - my husband's gggg grandparents, James O. and Sarah McGraw Collins. James O. Collins was a sailor and drowned in the Chesapeake Bay in the early 1800s. I have no other information on James and Sarah. Their son, William Smith Collins was born in Somerset Maryland on 5/30/1799. William later travelled West to Louisville KY, where he learned how to lay bricks and met and wed Mary Ann Hoke, the daughter of Adam Hoke and Catherine Hoffheins. The young married couple later travelled to Carlisle, Sullivan County, Indiana (with other members of the Hoke family) where they had several children and acquired land. I am very curious about James and Sarah. Were they born in America or did they come from the British Isles? Did they have any other children? Was James a sailor for the navy or a private shipper? Was his body recovered? Who were the parents of James and Sarah? This first Collins couple I've found is one of my great challenges; I'd appreciate any information or suggestions. Thanking you in advance, Beverly Cronk ----- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy Semenyna <antiqdorothy@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:12 Subject: Re: [COLLINS] correction Re: early Carolinian Collins To: collins@rootsweb.com > I know little of my Collins ancestry other than it began with > Octavia Collins, my grandmother, who was a daughter of J. J. > (John/Jack) Collins a son of Jones Collins; Jones Collins 1797- > N.C., and JamesCollins 1758-1838 - N.C. If any of the names are > included in the document you described, I would like to have a > copy. I would be most appreciative of your efforts. Thank you. > > --- On Sat, 1/15/11, Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> wrote: > > > From: Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] correction Re: early Carolinian Collins > To: fenenga@connpoint.net, skersha@rootsweb.com, collins@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 5:12 PM > > > We’ve all been there. Southern research can be a challenge at > best and most of my family lines have a southern connection. > Have a Happy New year and good searching. > A. > PS Do you have all that file? It is pages long and I can send > it to you via an attachment if you want. > > From: fenenga@connpoint.net > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:17 PM > To: Alice Sanders ; skersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com > Subject: correction Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins > > my apologies, Alice, I have not had all of my facilities of late > due to health issues and stress and did not see that it was > Leonardo's work. my head is muddled from lack of sleep and > general malaise. it was an innocent mistake. I try to be > accurate and factual in my research as well, but being human, > there is always potential for mistakes. > > I am still relatively new to early southern research, though I > have been researching for 20 years. I'm just trying to find the > lost trail to my own ancestry. > > Cornelia > > > On Sat 01/15/11 11:08 AM , "Alice Sanders" > sanders922@comcast.net sent: > > > The information you have provided is from information I found > at a Mormon > Family History Library some years ago. > It is NOT research done by Connie Andrea but done by one late > Leonardo > Andrea for several clients. The file was > in the possession of Connie Andrea at the time it was donated > to the FHL. I > copied the file and have shared it with > many people over the years researching southern Collins > families. Each time > this information was shared I have > tried to be factual where the information came from and who > did the work. > Alice Sanders. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fenenga@connpoint.net > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:44 AM > To: sckersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins > > > > I have, among my relatives, a Louis Davis Collins, b. 26 Nov > 1832 AL > son of Lewis D. Collins b. abt 1790 S.C. and Cynthia b. abt > 1791 N.C.. > I wonder if there's a relationship here. > > herein is an excellent transcript of the genealogical research of > one Connie Andrea regarding the Collins of Kershaw Co., S.C. that > looks fairly promising of being the missing branch of my ancestry. > > http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [1] > > and my family tree with my Collins ancestors and relatives; > > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi- > bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 [2] > > anyone care to compare them and give an opinion? it's hard for > me to > tell if I'm following the correct lineage. just because I want > it to > be doesn't mean it is, and I want to get it right. > > thank you for your time and thoughts. > > best, > > Cornelia > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.wvi.us/collins/ > [2] > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi- > bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF > YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Murray and Cass/Bartow counties are in north west Georgia, not SC. Sorry I neglected that one 'tiny, itty bitty, lol, non important fact.' Lainey > George Wiley Collins b abt 1812 somewhere in SC > First appears on the Murray Co census 1850 with wife S. Price (born in SC) > and several children some born in SC and at least one born in GA. The > order of the births of the children seem to suggest that the family may > have moved to GA, back to SC, and to GA a second time. There is an > Elizabeth Collins age about 50 in the household as well (George's sister > or sister-in-law??????). > Next appears on the Cass/Bartow Co census 1860 with wife & children. > Elizabeth is no longer in the home. Next door is a Price family from SC. > Next appears in Cass/Bartow Co census 1870 with another wife. Most of the > children are gone. > > Some researchers have the older boys moving out to Arkansas or Missouri > after the war. Some say the boys were killed during the war. One of the > girls is said to have moved to Texas and married. > > That's all I know of George Wiley Collins. > > Elaine > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
George Wiley Collins b abt 1812 somewhere in SC First appears on the Murray Co census 1850 with wife S. Price (born in SC) and several children some born in SC and at least one born in GA. The order of the births of the children seem to suggest that the family may have moved to GA, back to SC, and to GA a second time. There is an Elizabeth Collins age about 50 in the household as well (George's sister or sister-in-law??????). Next appears on the Cass/Bartow Co census 1860 with wife & children. Elizabeth is no longer in the home. Next door is a Price family from SC. Next appears in Cass/Bartow Co census 1870 with another wife. Most of the children are gone. Some researchers have the older boys moving out to Arkansas or Missouri after the war. Some say the boys were killed during the war. One of the girls is said to have moved to Texas and married. That's all I know of George Wiley Collins. Elaine
Since there were several Collins queries, I thought I would ask about the Collins I'm trying to find - my husband's gggg grandparents, James O. and Sarah McGraw Collins. James O. Collins was a sailor and drowned in the Chesapeake Bay in the early 1800s. I have no other information on James and Sarah. Their son, William Smith Collins was born in Somerset Maryland on 5/30/1799. William later travelled West to Louisville KY, where he learned how to lay bricks and met and wed Mary Ann Hoke, the daughter of Adam Hoke and Catherine Hoffheins. The young married couple later travelled to Carlisle, Sullivan County, Indiana (with other members of the Hoke family) where they had several children and acquired land. I am very curious about James and Sarah. Were they born in America or did they come from the British Isles? Did they have any other children? Was James a sailor for the navy or a private shipper? Was his body recovered? Who were the parents of James and Sarah? This first Collins couple I've found is one of my great challenges; I'd appreciate any information or suggestions. Thanking you in advance, Beverly Cronk ----- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy Semenyna <antiqdorothy@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:12 Subject: Re: [COLLINS] correction Re: early Carolinian Collins To: collins@rootsweb.com > I know little of my Collins ancestry other than it began with > Octavia Collins, my grandmother, who was a daughter of J. J. > (John/Jack) Collins a son of Jones Collins; Jones Collins 1797- > N.C., and JamesCollins 1758-1838 - N.C. If any of the names are > included in the document you described, I would like to have a > copy. I would be most appreciative of your efforts. Thank you. > > --- On Sat, 1/15/11, Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> wrote: > > > From: Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] correction Re: early Carolinian Collins > To: fenenga@connpoint.net, skersha@rootsweb.com, collins@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 5:12 PM > > > We’ve all been there. Southern research can be a challenge at > best and most of my family lines have a southern connection. > Have a Happy New year and good searching. > A. > PS Do you have all that file? It is pages long and I can send > it to you via an attachment if you want. > > From: fenenga@connpoint.net > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:17 PM > To: Alice Sanders ; skersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com > Subject: correction Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins > > my apologies, Alice, I have not had all of my facilities of late > due to health issues and stress and did not see that it was > Leonardo's work. my head is muddled from lack of sleep and > general malaise. it was an innocent mistake. I try to be > accurate and factual in my research as well, but being human, > there is always potential for mistakes. > > I am still relatively new to early southern research, though I > have been researching for 20 years. I'm just trying to find the > lost trail to my own ancestry. > > Cornelia > > > On Sat 01/15/11 11:08 AM , "Alice Sanders" > sanders922@comcast.net sent: > > > The information you have provided is from information I found > at a Mormon > Family History Library some years ago. > It is NOT research done by Connie Andrea but done by one late > Leonardo > Andrea for several clients. The file was > in the possession of Connie Andrea at the time it was donated > to the FHL. I > copied the file and have shared it with > many people over the years researching southern Collins > families. Each time > this information was shared I have > tried to be factual where the information came from and who > did the work. > Alice Sanders. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fenenga@connpoint.net > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:44 AM > To: sckersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins > > > > I have, among my relatives, a Louis Davis Collins, b. 26 Nov > 1832 AL > son of Lewis D. Collins b. abt 1790 S.C. and Cynthia b. abt > 1791 N.C.. > I wonder if there's a relationship here. > > herein is an excellent transcript of the genealogical research of > one Connie Andrea regarding the Collins of Kershaw Co., S.C. that > looks fairly promising of being the missing branch of my ancestry. > > http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [1] > > and my family tree with my Collins ancestors and relatives; > > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi- > bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 [2] > > anyone care to compare them and give an opinion? it's hard for > me to > tell if I'm following the correct lineage. just because I want > it to > be doesn't mean it is, and I want to get it right. > > thank you for your time and thoughts. > > best, > > Cornelia > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.wvi.us/collins/ > [2] > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi- > bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF > YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
And if there is a Brice COLLINS anywhere mentioned, I would also be interested. Lorraine lorraineq@juno.com Learn from the past Savor the present Prepare for the future ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Dorothy Semenyna <antiqdorothy@sbcglobal.net> To: collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] correction Re: early Carolinian Collins Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:08:56 -0800 (PST) I know little of my Collins ancestry other than it began with Octavia Collins, my grandmother, who was a daughter of J. J. (John/Jack) Collins a son of Jones Collins; Jones Collins 1797- N.C., and JamesCollins 1758-1838 - N.C. If any of the names are included in the document you described, I would like to have a copy. I would be most appreciative of your efforts. Thank you. --- On Sat, 1/15/11, Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> wrote: From: Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [COLLINS] correction Re: early Carolinian Collins To: fenenga@connpoint.net, skersha@rootsweb.com, collins@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 5:12 PM We’ve all been there. Southern research can be a challenge at best and most of my family lines have a southern connection. Have a Happy New year and good searching. A. PS Do you have all that file? It is pages long and I can send it to you via an attachment if you want. From: fenenga@connpoint.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:17 PM To: Alice Sanders ; skersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com Subject: correction Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins my apologies, Alice, I have not had all of my facilities of late due to health issues and stress and did not see that it was Leonardo's work. my head is muddled from lack of sleep and general malaise. it was an innocent mistake. I try to be accurate and factual in my research as well, but being human, there is always potential for mistakes. I am still relatively new to early southern research, though I have been researching for 20 years. I'm just trying to find the lost trail to my own ancestry. Cornelia On Sat 01/15/11 11:08 AM , "Alice Sanders" sanders922@comcast.net sent: The information you have provided is from information I found at a Mormon Family History Library some years ago. It is NOT research done by Connie Andrea but done by one late Leonardo Andrea for several clients. The file was in the possession of Connie Andrea at the time it was donated to the FHL. I copied the file and have shared it with many people over the years researching southern Collins families. Each time this information was shared I have tried to be factual where the information came from and who did the work. Alice Sanders. -----Original Message----- From: fenenga@connpoint.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:44 AM To: sckersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins I have, among my relatives, a Louis Davis Collins, b. 26 Nov 1832 AL son of Lewis D. Collins b. abt 1790 S.C. and Cynthia b. abt 1791 N.C.. I wonder if there's a relationship here. herein is an excellent transcript of the genealogical research of one Connie Andrea regarding the Collins of Kershaw Co., S.C. that looks fairly promising of being the missing branch of my ancestry. http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [1] and my family tree with my Collins ancestors and relatives; http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 [2] anyone care to compare them and give an opinion? it's hard for me to tell if I'm following the correct lineage. just because I want it to be doesn't mean it is, and I want to get it right. thank you for your time and thoughts. best, Cornelia Links: ------ [1] http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [2] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d35882527e72ccdc5cst02vuc
Send me your email address Alice -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy Semenyna Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:08 AM To: collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] correction Re: early Carolinian Collins I know little of my Collins ancestry other than it began with Octavia Collins, my grandmother, who was a daughter of J. J. (John/Jack) Collins a son of Jones Collins; Jones Collins 1797- N.C., and JamesCollins 1758-1838 - N.C. If any of the names are included in the document you described, I would like to have a copy. I would be most appreciative of your efforts. Thank you.
I have no idea of the given names in the file. It's a long one.
I know little of my Collins ancestry other than it began with Octavia Collins, my grandmother, who was a daughter of J. J. (John/Jack) Collins a son of Jones Collins; Jones Collins 1797- N.C., and JamesCollins 1758-1838 - N.C. If any of the names are included in the document you described, I would like to have a copy. I would be most appreciative of your efforts. Thank you. --- On Sat, 1/15/11, Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> wrote: From: Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [COLLINS] correction Re: early Carolinian Collins To: fenenga@connpoint.net, skersha@rootsweb.com, collins@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 5:12 PM We’ve all been there. Southern research can be a challenge at best and most of my family lines have a southern connection. Have a Happy New year and good searching. A. PS Do you have all that file? It is pages long and I can send it to you via an attachment if you want. From: fenenga@connpoint.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:17 PM To: Alice Sanders ; skersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com Subject: correction Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins my apologies, Alice, I have not had all of my facilities of late due to health issues and stress and did not see that it was Leonardo's work. my head is muddled from lack of sleep and general malaise. it was an innocent mistake. I try to be accurate and factual in my research as well, but being human, there is always potential for mistakes. I am still relatively new to early southern research, though I have been researching for 20 years. I'm just trying to find the lost trail to my own ancestry. Cornelia On Sat 01/15/11 11:08 AM , "Alice Sanders" sanders922@comcast.net sent: The information you have provided is from information I found at a Mormon Family History Library some years ago. It is NOT research done by Connie Andrea but done by one late Leonardo Andrea for several clients. The file was in the possession of Connie Andrea at the time it was donated to the FHL. I copied the file and have shared it with many people over the years researching southern Collins families. Each time this information was shared I have tried to be factual where the information came from and who did the work. Alice Sanders. -----Original Message----- From: fenenga@connpoint.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:44 AM To: sckersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins I have, among my relatives, a Louis Davis Collins, b. 26 Nov 1832 AL son of Lewis D. Collins b. abt 1790 S.C. and Cynthia b. abt 1791 N.C.. I wonder if there's a relationship here. herein is an excellent transcript of the genealogical research of one Connie Andrea regarding the Collins of Kershaw Co., S.C. that looks fairly promising of being the missing branch of my ancestry. http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [1] and my family tree with my Collins ancestors and relatives; http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 [2] anyone care to compare them and give an opinion? it's hard for me to tell if I'm following the correct lineage. just because I want it to be doesn't mean it is, and I want to get it right. thank you for your time and thoughts. best, Cornelia Links: ------ [1] http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [2] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
We’ve all been there. Southern research can be a challenge at best and most of my family lines have a southern connection. Have a Happy New year and good searching. A. PS Do you have all that file? It is pages long and I can send it to you via an attachment if you want. From: fenenga@connpoint.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:17 PM To: Alice Sanders ; skersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com Subject: correction Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins my apologies, Alice, I have not had all of my facilities of late due to health issues and stress and did not see that it was Leonardo's work. my head is muddled from lack of sleep and general malaise. it was an innocent mistake. I try to be accurate and factual in my research as well, but being human, there is always potential for mistakes. I am still relatively new to early southern research, though I have been researching for 20 years. I'm just trying to find the lost trail to my own ancestry. Cornelia On Sat 01/15/11 11:08 AM , "Alice Sanders" sanders922@comcast.net sent: The information you have provided is from information I found at a Mormon Family History Library some years ago. It is NOT research done by Connie Andrea but done by one late Leonardo Andrea for several clients. The file was in the possession of Connie Andrea at the time it was donated to the FHL. I copied the file and have shared it with many people over the years researching southern Collins families. Each time this information was shared I have tried to be factual where the information came from and who did the work. Alice Sanders. -----Original Message----- From: fenenga@connpoint.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:44 AM To: sckersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins I have, among my relatives, a Louis Davis Collins, b. 26 Nov 1832 AL son of Lewis D. Collins b. abt 1790 S.C. and Cynthia b. abt 1791 N.C.. I wonder if there's a relationship here. herein is an excellent transcript of the genealogical research of one Connie Andrea regarding the Collins of Kershaw Co., S.C. that looks fairly promising of being the missing branch of my ancestry. http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [1] and my family tree with my Collins ancestors and relatives; http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 [2] anyone care to compare them and give an opinion? it's hard for me to tell if I'm following the correct lineage. just because I want it to be doesn't mean it is, and I want to get it right. thank you for your time and thoughts. best, Cornelia Links: ------ [1] http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [2] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
my apologies, Alice, I have not had all of my facilities of late due to health issues and stress and did not see that it was Leonardo's work. my head is muddled from lack of sleep and general malaise. it was an innocent mistake. I try to be accurate and factual in my research as well, but being human, there is always potential for mistakes. I am still relatively new to early southern research, though I have been researching for 20 years. I'm just trying to find the lost trail to my own ancestry. Cornelia On Sat 01/15/11 11:08 AM , "Alice Sanders" sanders922@comcast.net sent: The information you have provided is from information I found at a Mormon Family History Library some years ago. It is NOT research done by Connie Andrea but done by one late Leonardo Andrea for several clients. The file was in the possession of Connie Andrea at the time it was donated to the FHL. I copied the file and have shared it with many people over the years researching southern Collins families. Each time this information was shared I have tried to be factual where the information came from and who did the work. Alice Sanders. -----Original Message----- From: fenenga@connpoint.net [1] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:44 AM To: sckersha@rootsweb.com [2] ; collins@rootsweb.com [3] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins I have, among my relatives, a Louis Davis Collins, b. 26 Nov 1832 AL son of Lewis D. Collins b. abt 1790 S.C. and Cynthia b. abt 1791 N.C.. I wonder if there's a relationship here. herein is an excellent transcript of the genealogical research of one Connie Andrea regarding the Collins of Kershaw Co., S.C. that looks fairly promising of being the missing branch of my ancestry. http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [4] [1] and my family tree with my Collins ancestors and relatives; http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 [5] [2] anyone care to compare them and give an opinion? it's hard for me to tell if I'm following the correct lineage. just because I want it to be doesn't mean it is, and I want to get it right. thank you for your time and thoughts. best, Cornelia Links: ------ [1] http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [6] [2] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 [7] BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com [8] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] mailto:fenenga@connpoint.net [2] mailto:sckersha@rootsweb.com [3] mailto:collins@rootsweb.com [4] http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [5] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 [6] http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [7] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&amp;db=necko&amp;id=I6093 [8] mailto:COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com
The information you have provided is from information I found at a Mormon Family History Library some years ago. It is NOT research done by Connie Andrea but done by one late Leonardo Andrea for several clients. The file was in the possession of Connie Andrea at the time it was donated to the FHL. I copied the file and have shared it with many people over the years researching southern Collins families. Each time this information was shared I have tried to be factual where the information came from and who did the work. Alice Sanders. -----Original Message----- From: fenenga@connpoint.net Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:44 AM To: sckersha@rootsweb.com ; collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] early Carolinian Collins I have, among my relatives, a Louis Davis Collins, b. 26 Nov 1832 AL son of Lewis D. Collins b. abt 1790 S.C. and Cynthia b. abt 1791 N.C.. I wonder if there's a relationship here. herein is an excellent transcript of the genealogical research of one Connie Andrea regarding the Collins of Kershaw Co., S.C. that looks fairly promising of being the missing branch of my ancestry. http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [1] and my family tree with my Collins ancestors and relatives; http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 [2] anyone care to compare them and give an opinion? it's hard for me to tell if I'm following the correct lineage. just because I want it to be doesn't mean it is, and I want to get it right. thank you for your time and thoughts. best, Cornelia Links: ------ [1] http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [2] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have, among my relatives, a Louis Davis Collins, b. 26 Nov 1832 AL son of Lewis D. Collins b. abt 1790 S.C. and Cynthia b. abt 1791 N.C.. I wonder if there's a relationship here. herein is an excellent transcript of the genealogical research of one Connie Andrea regarding the Collins of Kershaw Co., S.C. that looks fairly promising of being the missing branch of my ancestry. http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [1] and my family tree with my Collins ancestors and relatives; http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093 [2] anyone care to compare them and give an opinion? it's hard for me to tell if I'm following the correct lineage. just because I want it to be doesn't mean it is, and I want to get it right. thank you for your time and thoughts. best, Cornelia Links: ------ [1] http://www.wvi.us/collins/ [2] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=necko&id=I6093
?MGC: === Bocking Essex Records: 1583 Johanes Lock filius Jacobi bapt. 18. August. 1600 Joshua Turner et Barbara Wickes nupti 24. March. 1605 Robertus Buntinge et Anna Locke nupti 16. October?. [Anna Locke m:16-09?-1605 at Bocking, Essex, to Robertus Buntinge.]. Johanes Lock Chr:15-08-1583 at Bocking, Essex, Father: Jacobi Lock. Josias Lock Chr: 29-11-1584 at Bocking, Essex, Father: Jacobi Lock. 1587 Maria Buntinge filia Johnis bapt. 6. August. 1609 Johanis Buntinge & Marian Polly nupti 4. May. 1571 Thomas Collin filius Johnis bapt. 23. March. === Bocking is right near to Braintree Essex. There are a lot of the Turner family here etc. The Goodwin family (Hartford? NE) is found here too. I see the above selected records as 'probably' quite important. A branch of the Lock family is right here. The Turner-Wickes m. must be of good note. Here is Robert Bunting m. Anna Locke, that must mean some thing. Remember: [Thomas Marcam [Colchester] m:13-01-1566 Jane Wicke at Colchester, Essex.]. The Lock family is also in Colchester too. As I have put out before, I am suspecting a Thomas Collins to come in some where, missing sons. A Henry Collins too. This Thomas Collin of 1571 is interesting. One would want to find out if Barbara Wickes is close to Jane Wicke (!!!). But here is another one to review further: Francis Archer of Bocking Essex, clothier, 25 November 1578, proved 24 October 1579. Brentwood near Romford Essex: 1556: JURY PANEL for the body of the County:- John Wright, James Harris, William Harris, John Oxborowe, William Collyn, William Symonds, John Thurgoode, Anthony Everarde, George Midleton, Francis Archer, Robert Syptorpe, Robert Bunting*, Robert Younge, Stephen Archer, John Porter, William Burton and Richard Lake. (All) Sworn. [Bunton-Buntin-Bunten-Bunting]. * : You can notice the Robert Bunting here and Archer family too, plus Harris. - S.K.M. - [!!!] =========================
?Mye Goodye Cosynes, I am not sure of some of the years and any ocr errors. I can only expect that as one gets into these Markham, Locke, Eldred, Collins, Turner, lines etc., In Norfolk, there was a company for 'Worsted Weavers', and one can basically call them 'Master Weavers'. Well before 1600, things were going from very good to bad, an they also 'imported' workers from Europe or the 'Low Countries'. There were also people from France. I am not sure just yet, but this might be separate Daniel Marcon ?. The other Marcon family were basically weavers and married high and were rich it seems. [... for Daniel Marcon, a poor French protestant, ditto; for Peter Chemineau...]: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=dYtnAAAAMAAJ&q=Daniel+Marcon&dq=Daniel+Marcon&hl=en&ei=GCfETNn0C-KM4gab5vG5Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA === 1578: William Eldred, ye elder, & Alice Newell, w Richard Eldred & Helene Newell 1590: John Aylmer & Sarah Loke Ambrose Eldred & Jone Pricke Henry White & Annie Emmes 1604: William Eldred, elder, w., & Barbara Cooper, of Wralton [?], w. . .26 July 1604 1605: James Turner, w., & Dorathie Slappe James Turner, w., & Dorathie Slappe Robert Turner & Anne Key Henry Bird & Alice Kinge Peter Norton & Dorathe Turner, w. John Chapman, of Burston, neere Disse, & Ann Turner, d. of James Turner, of B. Robert Kirsted & [ ] Ames [? or Emes] 1609: Philip Jarman & Sisely Turner Hamond Elsinge & Maria Collins Egidius Roke & Jane Turner Roger Turner & Elizabeth Thurton Henry Chenye & Agnes Turner John Marshall & Elizabeth Smyth Jonathan Turner & Mary Marjoram 1613?: Richard Driver, b., & Agnes Eldred, s. 1617: Robert Sparke & Ruth Locke Margaret Gosling & Richard Withe David Turner & Alice Read 1619: John Birde, of Brandon Fery, b., & Emme Spencer, of Bromhill, s. . 20 Aug. 1620 Thomas Eldred, b., & Alice Barker, s., lie. 21 Oct. 1622 Matthew Eldred, b., & Susan Seckar, s.19 Oct. Jeremy Meade, s., & Elizabeth Eldred, w.4 Feb. 1653: George Bennet & Anne Garrard John Pricke & Elizabeth Eldred 1674: William Puncher & Mary Gurney 1687: Stephen Kemp & Margaret Hales John Neave, jun., & Ann Armes Edmund Adams & Mary Johnson Mr. William Gosling & Mrs. Susan Howse Thomas Smith & Ann Wily John Buxton & Ann Blith Mr. Elisha Phillipps & Mrs. Frances Garrould 1695 Thomas Pirkstone & Susan Alldredg John Balls & Margaret Chapman John Turner & Sarah Balls, w. Francis Turner & Christian Trett 1697 William Turner & Sarah Wats Francis Turner, w., & Elizabeth Wall, s. Joseph Purdy & Ann Ames, w. 1699: James Gatherwale & Ann Booty John Turner, b., & Elizabeth Ollett, s. 1702: William Buxton & Margaret Matthews Robert Plowman, p. Forncett S. Peter, & Margaret Buxton, w. Robert Smith & Mary Booth 1729???: Jeremiah Wilson, b., & Elizabeth Bowles, s., both this p. . 9 Jan. 1734: John Lock & Sarah Raven 1738 Carleton Rode Marriages. William Greenwood, b., & Elizabeth Buxton, s., both of New Buckenham. . 6 Sept. 1736 James Elder, of Hetherset, b., & Anne Markham, this p., s. 28 Sept. William Elder, b., & Charlotte Bird, w., both this p.I Apr. 1738 John Shepheard, b., & Mary Smith, s., both this p. . 30 Jan. " William Elder, b., & Charlotte Bird, w., both this p.I Apr. 1738 John Shepheard, b., & Mary Smith, s., both this p. . 30 Jan. " 1739: John Dale, w., & Esther Elder, s., both this p. 7 Jan. " John Grey, b., & Mary Rich, s., both this p.26 May 1 740 John Sherman, b., & Alice Riches, s., both of Bunwell,. 6 Jan. " 1744: Benjamin Margerom, of Beccles, & Mary Turner, of this p. . .21 Feb. 1746 Thomas Coggan, w., & Sarah Eldred, w., both p. Stoak Ferry 7 Nov. 1746 William Miller & Jone Lock Thomas Bateman & Agnes Turner 1750: Samuel Sheperd & Susan Kent 3 Oct. 1767: James Booty & Mary Brown 1772: James Riches & Mary Taylor 1781 Mark Mornement, p. Neatishead, & Mary Mack, lic. James Dugdale & Hannah Ames John Collins, p. Shotley, & Martha Hopwood 1788: John Bond & Catherine Mead William Collins & Alice Bright, w. 1796: Richard Shepperd & Anne Baley John Knights & Margaret Eldred 25 Apr. 1671 1802: Henry Wrench & Ann Yarham, p. East Beckham, he. 1804: Thomas Spencer & Alice Collins Mark Leak & Frances Collings 1810 James Collins & Willoughby Watts . 5 July 1800 Abraham Turner & Elizabeth Harmer 20 Nov. " 1831? James Ames & Susanah Duck === Eldred, John, Alderman of London, born at New Buckenham ; a great Traveller, visited Babylon 1583 ; he died aged 80, and was buried at Great Saxham, Suffolk, where his son erected a monument to his memory, in 1632. Mr. Jonathan Wrench, vicar of Aylesham. === === I want to take the above list and make it shorter: === 1578: William Eldred, ye elder, & Alice Newell, w Richard Eldred & Helene Newell These should be part and parcel of the Eldred family we have been concerned with. 1590: John Aylmer & Sarah Loke Ambrose Eldred & Jone Pricke Henry White & Annie Emmes [John Aylmer & Sarah Loke]: This one stands out a lot and needs further review. 1609: Henry Chenye & Agnes Turner (!!!) 1617: Robert Sparke & Ruth Locke Margaret Gosling & Richard Withe David Turner & Alice Read I find this [Robert Sparke & Ruth Locke] one most curious to follow further. The Sparkes family is also in St. Peter le Poer London where merchant Daniel Collins is, who was b. in Bramford Suffolk where the Eldred and Acton families come in etc., and in London there, the Francklyn, Powell, Sparkes, Buxton, Coppin, families, and some to Earls Colne Essex. There is also one William Whitmore that associates with Bramford Suffolk. Gosling should probably be 'Josslen' ?. There will be a an extreme connection to many mayors of London. 1674: William Puncher & Mary Gurney Another one. 1687: Stephen Kemp & Margaret Hales John Neave, jun., & Ann Armes Edmund Adams & Mary Johnson Mr. William Gosling & Mrs. Susan Howse Thomas Smith & Ann Wily John Buxton & Ann Blith Mr. Elisha Phillipps & Mrs. Frances Garrould There is a lot here, it needs to be sorted. For Collins and Collings, one needs to read these surnames in context to other relevant refs. Kemp + Hales, Adams + Johnson, Gosling + Howse, Smith + Wily, Buxton + Blith, Phillipps + Garrould (Garrott?) etc. === The Eldred family m. into the Neville family, there must be a lot of royal lines lost around here. Side liner notes: Parish Thorington Suffolk: m:1666 Robt Sheapheard and Ann Marcon. Parish Thorington Suffolk: m:1583 Henry Marcon of Westleton widdower and Allice Corey. There are a few Edmund Marcon's in Norfolk. WORSTED WEAVERS: continued Henricus Reade, appr. Walteri Marcon. 11 Dec. 7 Jac. f . 36c}. ... 37b. Georgius Lambe, appr. Johes. Barker. 23 Dec. 1614. f. 37b. Daniel Marcon, appr. Walteri Marcon. 23 Dec. 1614. f. 37b. DAN MARCON Christening: 14 JAN 1560 Saint James Pockthorpe, Norwich, Norfolk, England. Father: JN MARCON. CATH MARCON Chr: 30 MAY 1589 Saint James Pockthorpe, Norwich, Norfolk, England Father: JN. MARCON ANN MARCON Chr: 26 MAR 1643 Saint Augustine, Norwich, Norfolk, England Father: WILLIAM MARCON HANNA MARCON Chr: 25 SEP 1653 Saint George Colegate, Norwich, Norfolk, England Death: 30 OCT 1657 Father: JOHN MARCON Mother: BREDGGETT HANA MARCON Chr: 16 JAN 1658 Saint George Colegate, Norwich, Norfolk, England Father: JOHN MARCON Mother: BRIDGETT AGNES MARCON Spouse: JOHN DINGLE m:11 FEB 1593 Tooleyuisalambertthe Pallaece, Norwich, Norfolk, England Walter Marcon, filius Walteri Marcon (worsted weaver, defunct). Walter Marcon, who was Porter unto four Bishops, Apr. 30, 1636. John Marcon (Barrister at Law) died May 12, 1723, Æt. 38. Here resteth the Body of Mary the Wife of Mathew Marcon, & Dr. of Mat. Peckover Alderman, by Prisca his Wife, who dying together with her Infant in Child-Bed, lies with it under this kinde Stone interr'd July 19, 1642, 31. She died in child birth, Matthew Marcon/Markham was Mayor of Norwich. The pulpit was given by R. Jannis, and hath his mark and the grocer's arms impaled with it, and three triple crowns, impaled with a woman's head, and M. I; there are three brass branches; one given by William Herne, D. D. 1715; the 2d by Mrs. Eliz. Marcon, 1696; the 3d is a small one, found in digging a cellar. Eldred, John, Alderman of London, born at New Buckenham ; a great Traveller, visited Babylon 1583 ; he died aged 80, and was buried at Great Saxham, Suffolk, where his son erected a monument to his memory in 1632. Stiffkey Norfolk is where that one Nathaniel Bacon of Stiffkey came from. === Thomas Cory was an Alderman of Norwich in 1636. When Oliver Cromwell, at the head of his troop of horse, entered Lowestoft at the commencement of the civil war, he made prisoners of all the leading royalists there, among whom was Thomas ... 1615: Rev. John Carter, Vicar of Bramford. William Acton, Portman. Geo. Acton, Portman. John Acton, Portman. 1690: Nathaniel Lee Acton Esq. William Acton, portman; who died in 1616, aged 76. This was erected by John Acton, his son, who resided at Bramford, and was high sheriff for the county. George Sparrowe, late citizen and grocer of London, second son of William Sparrowe, Portman of Ipswich, died 11 Dec. 1599. ''The Red Lion'' and ''The White Horse'', seem to be possibly play houses in or near Norwich Norfolk too. Many links will be found from Norfolk to London. Somehow this so far, doesn't seem to be the Markham of Earls Colne. Not yet. Whilst I am in the circle of related persons, I think I must reconsider what it is I am missing here with regards the Markham of Earls Colne. === - S.K.M. - [!!!] =========================
?MGC: === === === Forewords: OK, so we have a [Edwarde Collins, clotheworker, adventurer] in London. +-R: Should be one of yours ?. Now we from previous posts of mine, that there seemed to be a Collins link to the 'Globe' etc. We know that the merchant Daniel Collins of St. Peter le Poer London, is closely related to the Franklyn and Okeover families there. I left my research I think with that one Rowland Okeover's line going back into Derbyshire somewhere. This is correct since his direct ascent line ''I would think'', actually is directly associated with earlier lines of Okeover who were High Sheriffs of both Derby + Notts (!!!). It will be from this area, that quite some closeness to the NL (Noble Line) Markhams might come in, and they might. Later lines of Okeover marry into the Babington family and there is even one named Leeke Okeover person. What 'clearly' should be a line of this same Okeover family is in a place called LITCHFIELD. There is another Edward Collins coming in as you will see. William Overton is the Bishop of Lichfield and Coventry. Litchfield is a hotspot for some associated families it seems. Make good note of the new surnames coming in here and general patterns. (+-R), probably one of yours: [In the Public Record Office in London, there is a record showing the "superstitious practices" were causing the authorities concern in Chelmarsh in 1577, in the 20th year of Queen Elizabeth's reign. A commission was appointed to enquire into whether land at Farnold's Moor, on the boundaries of Chelmarsh and Glazeley, was used to pay for a candle to be set before an image in Chelmarsh Church and for a priest to serve in "Our Lady's Chapel", to say mass on St Valentine's Day. The enquiry appeared to find only one person prepared to testify. This was Thomas Westwood of Eardington, gent. He knew nothing about the candle, but claimed that three priests, William Overton, Edward Collyns and Thomas Lowe, were employed to sing masses for all "dystressed" souls. The land had been given by Joyce Blount, who was now dead.] One Edwarde Collyns alongside Robert Myles (Miles) of Whitechapel w'out Allgate London free of the Company of Goldsmiths. Also Gyles Allen who had lands in St. Leonard's Shordiche without Bishops gate. Also John Braynes. Take time to view a Google map to see where St. Leonards is. There is a William Markham here who m. Joyce, see the HOTMN book I 'think' it would be. He has at least 3 dg, maybe a 4th, and possibly a son William ???. Remember all these people I am pointing out. Also James Burbage. So we already have Collyns - Myles - Allen - Braynes - Burbage - Overton - Okeover - Lowe - Bagot (!!! - !!! - !!!). Make exceptional note of this last pattern (!!!). Read all the pages before and after this page: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=uBpWZ_5lxY8C&pg=PA139&lpg=PA139&dq=Edwarde+Collyns+London&source=bl&ots=rXH5mIsQiD&sig=DUfIvQfByrdCEpZQV-MdZTDLvWQ&hl=en&ei=Wn-8TPCkGobKswbwm_S-DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Edwarde%20Collyns%20London&f=false Make good note of this and names and the Goldsmiths: http://shakespeare.folger.edu/other/html/dfobagot.html#N7300 The above ref. must be kept, includes a lot, Cradock - Collins - Collyns - Cotton - Bagot, etc. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=3iY9AAAAIAAJ&pg=PT240&dq=William+Markham+Goldsmith+Foster+Lane&hl=en&ei=KY28TNPDLNS5jAeMncS2Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=William%20Markham%20Goldsmith%20Foster%20Lane&f=false http://www.marlowe-society.org/news/news2009/news2009_006_thetheatre.html I named the general area above the Thames L1, and I am going to named the flipside general area below the Thames L2. This is still the 'Foreword', a lot here. You can read all the texts and refs. for yourself to get the rest of the links and info. An original playhouse was built 1576 in Shoreditch London by James Burbage named ''The Theatre'' in L1 area. There were a whole lot of issues around this theatre, and several court cases. ''The Lord Chamberlain's Men'' resided here and included William Shakespeare. Remember there was one Shakespeare in Earls Colne too. There was another playhouse near the Thames named the 'Rose'. Briefly, ''The Theatre'' was pulled down, not demolished, and much of this building was then transported and used to build the 'Globe'. ''The Theatre'' ended about 1597 and the ''Globe'' started about 1598. Read as much as you can before and after this page, this is all of the court cases: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=y82YJ1P5gksC&pg=PA365&lpg=PA365&dq=robert+miles+theatre&source=bl&ots=6tUXhN3NZg&sig=OS6woDv-jec7KMEDbY6EPhZYMFw&hl=en&ei=jwm_TOinNIPL4gaHoOyDAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CDUQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=robert%20miles%20theatre&f=false The Goldsmiths, not every single name included here, but good enough for now: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=3iY9AAAAIAAJ&pg=PT240&dq=William+Markham+Goldsmith+Foster+Lane&hl=en&ei=KY28TNPDLNS5jAeMncS2Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=William%20Markham%20Goldsmith%20Foster%20Lane&f=false Martin - Markham - Marsh - Marshall, there are Collins too if you go to it. Humphrey Okeover, Esq., High Sheriff (1631: High Sheriff of Derbyshire) m. Lettice Bagot. His parents were Rowland Okeover, Esq. + Anne Needham, and his parents were Philip Okeover, Esq. (Of Okeover Staffs.) + Elizabeth Babington. Etc. http://books.google.co.za/books?ei=YE6_TMnhHcna4Ab6ga18&ct=result&id=5DsQAQAAIAAJ&dq=Edwarde+Collyns+William+Overton&q=Collyns#search_anchor [Robert Myles of Whitechapel, Goldsmith]. [Nicholas Collins Goldsmith of Littchfield, .... divers evell]. [.... William Nicoll, and that of Edward Collyns, the grocer who bought Brayne out]. St. Mary Woolnoth Church London is clearly a hotspot. >From what I can see, a John Franklyn Markham also comes into the picture towards the Turkey Seas. === === === Edward Byrd Walter Collyns: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=46359 - S.K.M. - [!!!] ============================
Hi, Alice: Thank you for the information...this Hezekiah is clearly not the ancestor I am looking for, but it could be someone older than he (uncle, cousin, grandfather?), certainly, and I find it at least interesting that they had the same unusual name! This may be the lead I need for previous generations! Thank you! I will send you a separate request for the Collins file you mentioned. Thanks again, Laura -----Original Message----- From: Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:08 am Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Dear Laura and Jackie May I put in a two cents worth here? There is a Rev. War pension application record for a Hezekiah Collins. He said he served as a private in the Cont. line from Virginia, enlisting in Albermarle County, Virginia in 1777. He was applying for a pension from Union Township, Madison County, Ohio [14 May 1832]. His application was denied because no record of his name could be found as serving in Virginia. I hope this can help either or both of you. Alice -------------------------------------------------- From: <collinsroots@aol.com> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:42 AM To: <collins@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > Hi, Jackie: > > > I'm guessing this is not mine...Hezekiah DID go to Ohio, but he was still > in Virginia in 1832...his first five children were all born in Virginia, > and only his sixth, in 1848, was born in Ohio. > > > That's interesting, though...I wonder if the two could be related? The > name Hezekiah is quite unusual...maybe they were cousins?? What is your > connection to him? > > > Laura > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jandbill <jandbill@aol.com> > To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 3:41 am > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > > > > Laura, > We have a Hezekiah Collings/Collins who was in Madison Co.,Ohio in 1832 > when his > fathers estate was settled. I don't know what happened to him after that > but > could be yours???? > Jackie > Jandbill@gmail.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: collinsroots <collinsroots@aol.com> > To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 11:54 pm > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > > > Thank you, Marilyn! I will check out both of these links...you never > know. > > aura > > > -----Original Message----- > rom: Mansion on Main <mansiononmain1@windstream.net> > o: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> > ent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 2:40 pm > ubject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > > saw the following information online, which you may already have seen: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/COLLINS/1997-08/0872532702 > http://www.lanhamsource.com/getperson.php?personID=I276&tree=T1 > Marilyn > ----- Original Message ----- > rom: <collinsroots@aol.com> > o: <collins@rootsweb.com> > ent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:51 PM > ubject: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > > Looking for Hezekiah Collins, born 1810, Virginia. > He married Sarah Jane Wood in Albemarle County, Virginia in 1832. > He died in Lane County, Oregon, in 1886. > > > Does anyone have a connection, or does anyone have any advice for how I > can find Hezekiah's family? I am at a brick wall, here. Any thoughts > welcome. Thanks! > > > Laura > > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
-----Original Message----- From: Alice Sanders <sanders922@comcast.net> To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 8:08 am Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 Dear Laura and Jackie May I put in a two cents worth here? There is a Rev. War pension application record for a Hezekiah Collins. He said he served as a private in the Cont. line from Virginia, enlisting in Albermarle County, Virginia in 1777. He was applying for a pension from Union Township, Madison County, Ohio [14 May 1832]. His application was denied because no record of his name could be found as serving in Virginia. I hope this can help either or both of you. Alice -------------------------------------------------- From: <collinsroots@aol.com> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:42 AM To: <collins@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > Hi, Jackie: > > > I'm guessing this is not mine...Hezekiah DID go to Ohio, but he was still > in Virginia in 1832...his first five children were all born in Virginia, > and only his sixth, in 1848, was born in Ohio. > > > That's interesting, though...I wonder if the two could be related? The > name Hezekiah is quite unusual...maybe they were cousins?? What is your > connection to him? > > > Laura > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jandbill <jandbill@aol.com> > To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 3:41 am > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > > > > Laura, > We have a Hezekiah Collings/Collins who was in Madison Co.,Ohio in 1832 > when his > fathers estate was settled. I don't know what happened to him after that > but > could be yours???? > Jackie > Jandbill@gmail.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: collinsroots <collinsroots@aol.com> > To: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 11:54 pm > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > > > Thank you, Marilyn! I will check out both of these links...you never > know. > > aura > > > -----Original Message----- > rom: Mansion on Main <mansiononmain1@windstream.net> > o: collins <collins@rootsweb.com> > ent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 2:40 pm > ubject: Re: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > > saw the following information online, which you may already have seen: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/COLLINS/1997-08/0872532702 > http://www.lanhamsource.com/getperson.php?personID=I276&tree=T1 > Marilyn > ----- Original Message ----- > rom: <collinsroots@aol.com> > o: <collins@rootsweb.com> > ent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:51 PM > ubject: [COLLINS] Hezekiah Collins 1810-1886 > > Looking for Hezekiah Collins, born 1810, Virginia. > He married Sarah Jane Wood in Albemarle County, Virginia in 1832. > He died in Lane County, Oregon, in 1886. > > > Does anyone have a connection, or does anyone have any advice for how I > can find Hezekiah's family? I am at a brick wall, here. Any thoughts > welcome. Thanks! > > > Laura > > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
?MGC: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Charter_of_Virginia,_1609 I thought you might find this item of interest. === ... other consisting of divers Knights, Gentlemen, and others, of our Cities of Bristol, Exeter, and Town of Plimouth, and other Places, called the SECOND COLONY). ... forasmuch as divers and sundry of our loving Subjects, as well Adventurers, as Planters, of the said first Colony, which have already engaged themselves in furthering the Business of the said Colony and Plantation. Just a few that caught my eye: John, Lord Stanhope, Sir Humphry Weld, Lord Mayor of London, Sir Edward Cecil, Knt. Sir George Wharton, Knt. Sir Henry Nevil, Knt. Sir Thomas Smith, Knt. Sir Oliver Cromwell, Knt. Sir Peter Scott, Knt. Sir Anthony Cope, Knt. Sir Horatio Vere, Knt. Sir Edward Conway, Knt. Sir William Brown, Knt. Sir Thomas Gates, Knt. Sir Michael Sandys, Knt. Sir John Ratclifle, Knt. Sir George Moore, Knt. Sir John Holles, Knt. Sir William Godolphin, Knt. Sir Richard Williamson, Knt. Sir William St. John, Knt. Sir Walter Cope Knt. Sir John Smith, Knt. Sir Francis Wolley, Knt. Sir Edward Waterhouse, Knt. Sir Edwin Sandys, Knt. Sir Francis Bacon, Knt. Sir George Coppin, Knt. Sir Samuel Sandys, Knt. Sir Thomas Roe, Knt. Sir Thomas Middleton, Knt. Sir John Ogle, Knt. Sir George Hayward, Knt. Sir Thomas Davis, Knt. Sir Thomas Sutton, Knt. Sir Robert Payne, Knt. Sir Dudley Digges, Knt. Sir Rowland? Cotton, Knt. Dr. Turner, Captain Sparks, Captain Clarke, Captain Holles, Captain Henry Woodliouse, Captain William Winter, Captain Pearse, Captain William Lovelace, Captain Thomas Wynne, Captain Comock, Captain Edward-Maria Wingfield, Captain Christopher Newport, Captain John Sicklemore, alias Ratcliffe, Captain John Smith, Captain John Martin, Captain Peter Wynne, Captain Thomas Wood, George Bolls, Esq. Sheriff of London, David Woodhouse, Esq. Ralph Owens, Esq. Zachary Jones Esq. Thomas Sandys, Esq. Henry Sandys, Esq. Richard Sandys, Esq. Son of Sir Edwin Sandys, Thomas Wilson Esq. John Waller, Esq. Jehu Robinson, William Brewster, Richard Hackluit, Minister, John Eldrid, Merchant, William Russel, Merchant, Charles Anthony, Goldsmith, John Banks, Richard Chamberlayne, Merchant, Thomas Nicholls, Merchant, Gabriel Archer, Edward Harrison, Nicholas Salter, Henry Jackson, Christopher Nicholls, Robert Hill, Cleophas Smith, Ralph Harrison, Richard Cox, Richard Dean, Richard Turner, John Gardiner, James Russell, John Hawkins, Thomas White, Robert Offley, Jeffry Duppa, John Gilbert, Matthew Brown, Randolph Carter, Othowell Smith. Thomas Hammond, Martin Bond, Haberdasher, Richard Champion, Henry Robinson, Thomas Grave, Henry Collins, John Russel, Harman Harrison. Gabriel Beedel, John Beedel, Edward Fleetwood, Gentleman, Richard Rogers, Gentleman, Arthur Robinson, Robert Robinson, William Webster, Henry Roe, Nicholas Andrews, John West, John Johnson, Thomas Johnson, George Sandys, Gentleman, James White, Gentleman, Richard Maplesden, Katharine West, Robert Coppin, William Palmer, haberdasher, Charles Hawkins, Abraham Cartwright, Richard Goddard, Henry Cromwell, Edward Wilkes, Thomas Harris, Gentleman, Thomas Knowles Edmond Smith, John March, Christopher Salmon, Richard Partridge, Felix Wilson, Thomas Godwin, Robert Smith, Merchant Taylor, Edward Cage, grocer, Leonard White, Gentleman, Richard Smith, John Davis, John Robinson, Captain Thomas Wood, William Brown, shoemaker, Richard Shepherd, preacher, William Taylor, haberdasher, Edwin Lukin, Gentleman, John Franklyn, haberdasher, William Powel, Gentleman, Richard Frith, Gentleman, Thomas Wheeler, draper, John Andrews, the Elder, Doctor of Cambridge, Jhon Vassal, Gentleman, Nicholas Exton, draper, William Bennet, fishmonger, James Haywood, Merchant, John Martin, Gentleman, Thomas Fox, John St. John, John Andrews, the younger, of Cambridge, Samuel Smith, Thomas Gerrard, Edward Brewster, the son of William Brewster, Leonard Harwood, mercer, Tristian Hill, Samuel Winch, grocer, Humphry Stile, grocer, Matthew Shepherd, grocer, Thomas Allen, grocer, Richard Hooker grocer, Lawrence Munks, grocer, Robert Milmay, grocer, Richard Johnson, grocer, William Johnson, vintner, Ezekiel Smith, Richard Martin, Robert Rich, Thomas Bayley, vintner, Miles Banks, cutler, ... the Company of Mercers, the Company of Grocers, the Company of Drapers, the Company of Fishmongers, the Company of Goldsmiths, the Company of Skinners, the Company of MerchantTaylors, the Company of Haberdashers, the Company of Salters, the Company of Ironmongers, the Company of Vintners, the Company of Clothworkers, the Company of Dyers, the Company of Brewers, the Company of Leathersellers, the Company of Pewierers, the Company of Gutlers, the Company of Whitebakers, the Company of Wax-Chandlers, the Company of Tallow-Chandlers, the Company of Armourers, the Company of Girdlers, the Company of Butchers, the Company of Sadlers, the Company of Carpenters, the Company of Cordwaynes, the Company of Barber-Chirurgeons, the Companv of Paintstainers, the Company of Curriers, the Company of Masons, the Company of Plumbers, the Company of Innholders, the Company of Founders, the Company of Poulterers, the Company of Cooks, the Company of Coopers, the Company of Tylers and Brick]ayers, the Company of Boyers, the Company of Fletchers, the Company of Blacksmiths, the Company of Joiners, the Company of Weavers, the Company of Woolmen, the Company of Woodmongers, the Company of Scriveners, the Company of Fruiterers, the Company of Plasterers, the Company of Brownbakers, the Company of Stationers, the Company of Imbroiderers, the Company of Upholsterers, the Company of Musicians, the Company of Turners, the Company of Gardners, the Company of Basketmakers, the Company of Glaziers, ... John Levet, Merchant, Thomas Scott, gentleman, Thomas Juxon, merchant-taylor, Edward Smith, haberdasher, Stephen Sparrow, John Jones, merchant, Reynolds, Brewer, Jame Duppa, brewer, George Whitmore, haberdasher, Anthony Gosnold, the younger, John Allen, fishmonger, Simon Yeomans, fishmonger, Lancelot Davis, gentleman, John Hopkins, alderman of Bristol, George Hooker, gentleman, ... ... ... Name of The Treasurer and Company of Adventurers and Planters of the City of London, for the first Colony in Virginia. === Just about every body is here in these London Companies. There is so much I can hardly point it out. But one can also note that there were companies of shoe makers and barbers, so don't knock the shoe makers (!!!). Bristol is clearly a place to go, many many pointers the whole time. There is one of your Whitmores, the same chap I might add, some persons are in more than one company, there is the 'Yeomans' surname, a John Hopkins the Alderman of Bristol, etc. Wods (!!!). But reading the url info, you can see it says that all of these people were part of the Virginia settlements. No wonder I kept on feeling like I was in Virginia the whole time. I can only assume that at least or so of this Markham line I am looking into, might have more connections to these famous people in London. Many of the 'other' or 'unresearched' or 'unlinked' family persons are going to be found here in London, or connect there somehow. For DDM: Names like Thomas, William, John, Nathaniel Markham are ones to look for. - S.K.M. - [!!!] =======================