Can anyone help me with this name: Duncan Collins he was born in Tennessee I believe Grainger Tennessee. He had a son named Ceborn Collins. I am not sure of the dates because I lost all of the genealogy on my computer. Does anyone have any information on this Collins Line? I do know that my Collins line is Cherokee. My great grandmother Italy Lee Collins was born June 11, 1902 and she was Indian but she was also part something that I am not sure of. I think Duncan was born around 1807 or somewhere in there. Any help will be greatley appreicated! Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wanda Nelsen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] NARCISSA COLLENS > Hello. I looked up the origination of given names a long time ago and i > found the name WANDA came from Poland. Since i have no known Polish > ancestors, i cant figure that one out, maybe my mom just liked the sound > of it. Anyway. I am Scots / Cherokee. > > Wanda Carlton <[email protected]> wrote: Is your name, WANDA, an Indian name > ?? > > Wanda C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Wanda Nelsen > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:26 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] NARCISSA COLLENS > > > Elizabeth. Thank you for the reply, you have given me another search site. > I > have looked at some Mulungeon > sites in the past but i will look again. While attending an > anthropology class at our local college our instructor asked if anyone > believed that they had native american bloodline. I stood up and he then > asked to examine my teeth. He stated that i did indeed have shovel teeth > and > an added tooth condition that had 'bugged' me for years. I could feel > little > blobs on my teeth with my tongue and often wondered why i had extra pieces > of enamel on them. The instructor said i had Cherokee Pearls,tiny, round > enamel pieces on the inside of my front teeth common to Cherokee people. I > thought he was joking and i never did follow up on his exam.Wanda. > > "Collins, Elizabeth N." wrote: > Try looking in the "Mulegeon" group of Collins. Here is a good website: > > Vardy Collins' descendents > > Posted By: Gary Davis > Date: Monday, 24 February 2003, at 4:39 p.m. > > I am descended from Melungeon "patriarch" Vardimon "Vardy" Collins from > Newman's Ridge (Hancock county) Tennessee. He and his wife Peggy Gibson > Collins have many descendents. The highest concentration of which are in > Sneedville,Tennessee. I am kin to Vardy through his daughter (or > grandaughter) Clarkia Collins who married Isom Biggs. Whose daughter > Delsie Ann Biggs married my Great Great Grandad Noah Lee Ramsey. They > were married in Hancock county,Tennessee. For more info please visit > http://www.melungeons.com/ > > Here is another really good one also: > http://hometown.aol.com/bbbenge/page15.html > > When I first heard of the Mulegeons, I assumed they were a "mulatto" > line of the Collins, in reading this, that is not the case. Your name > of NARCISSA COLLENS rings bells with me on the lines of Vardy Collins. > Check these websites out. > > Beth Collins > Wordprocessing > McGuireWoods LLP > Bank of America Corporate Center > 100 N. Tryon Street, Suite 2900 > Charlotte, NC 28202 > Direct: 704.373.8066 > Fax: 704.373.8935 > email: [email protected] > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________________________________________________________ > > This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you > are not the intended recipient, please advise by return e-mail and > delete immediately without reading or forwarding to others. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] NARCISSA COLLENS > > > Hi, > I have been researching Collins history in Va for 12 yrs. and Narcissa > rings a bell, but give me some time to find her. She may be in a book I > saw, save my e-mail and remind me if I forget. I am also looking for > Indian heritage!!! Anita > > -------------- Original message from Wanda Nelsen > : -------------- > > >> I am searching for any information on NARCISSA COLLENS b: about 1803 >> in North >> Carolina. >> Married to MILTON MCCLELLAN January 1825 in Cabarrus Co. N.C. >> I have a copy of the marriage bond. >> Census of Mitchell Co. N.C. 1840 and 1850---Grassy Creek District. >> Then she disappears. Not on census of 1860 with her family in McDowell > Co. >> N.C. >> Last known residence of her husband was census of 1900, he was living > in the >> household of their son JOHN MCCLELLAN in Grassy Creek, N.C. at the age > of 99 >> years. >> Milton McClellan is believed to be buried in the PENDLEY cemetary > outside of >> Spruce Pine N.C. >> Family oral history is that NARCISSA COLLENS was Cherokee, but there > is no >> record to prove it. Her name is not found on any of the Indian > Rolls--I have all >> of them and i have searched them carefully. I would like to find her > parents and >> her place of birth, or possible some siblings, any record would be > helpful, any >> suggestons from listers also. Narcissa Collens McClellan is my > great-great grand >> mother. Thank you. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

In a message dated 11/5/2006 1:55:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have a George Lewis Collins from Giles County TN Russell Hehemann <[email protected]> wrote: Sandra, was she married to a HOWARD and lived in Henry Co., Buchanan, Tennessee? Carol Howard Hehemann Sandra Larson wrote: > I have an Elizabeth Collins m. in TN, but was from North Carolina. I have no idea who her parents were. > > Sandra Larson > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the new Yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Hi I have a Becky Collins who married a Bridgeman in the GA, NC, VA or TN area. Could they be the same?

Hello. I looked up the origination of given names a long time ago and i found the name WANDA came from Poland. Since i have no known Polish ancestors, i cant figure that one out, maybe my mom just liked the sound of it. Anyway. I am Scots / Cherokee. Wanda Carlton <[email protected]> wrote: Is your name, WANDA, an Indian name ?? Wanda C. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Wanda Nelsen Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] NARCISSA COLLENS Elizabeth. Thank you for the reply, you have given me another search site. I have looked at some Mulungeon sites in the past but i will look again. While attending an anthropology class at our local college our instructor asked if anyone believed that they had native american bloodline. I stood up and he then asked to examine my teeth. He stated that i did indeed have shovel teeth and an added tooth condition that had 'bugged' me for years. I could feel little blobs on my teeth with my tongue and often wondered why i had extra pieces of enamel on them. The instructor said i had Cherokee Pearls,tiny, round enamel pieces on the inside of my front teeth common to Cherokee people. I thought he was joking and i never did follow up on his exam.Wanda. "Collins, Elizabeth N." wrote: Try looking in the "Mulegeon" group of Collins. Here is a good website: Vardy Collins' descendents Posted By: Gary Davis Date: Monday, 24 February 2003, at 4:39 p.m. I am descended from Melungeon "patriarch" Vardimon "Vardy" Collins from Newman's Ridge (Hancock county) Tennessee. He and his wife Peggy Gibson Collins have many descendents. The highest concentration of which are in Sneedville,Tennessee. I am kin to Vardy through his daughter (or grandaughter) Clarkia Collins who married Isom Biggs. Whose daughter Delsie Ann Biggs married my Great Great Grandad Noah Lee Ramsey. They were married in Hancock county,Tennessee. For more info please visit http://www.melungeons.com/ Here is another really good one also: http://hometown.aol.com/bbbenge/page15.html When I first heard of the Mulegeons, I assumed they were a "mulatto" line of the Collins, in reading this, that is not the case. Your name of NARCISSA COLLENS rings bells with me on the lines of Vardy Collins. Check these websites out. Beth Collins Wordprocessing McGuireWoods LLP Bank of America Corporate Center 100 N. Tryon Street, Suite 2900 Charlotte, NC 28202 Direct: 704.373.8066 Fax: 704.373.8935 email: [email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise by return e-mail and delete immediately without reading or forwarding to others. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] NARCISSA COLLENS Hi, I have been researching Collins history in Va for 12 yrs. and Narcissa rings a bell, but give me some time to find her. She may be in a book I saw, save my e-mail and remind me if I forget. I am also looking for Indian heritage!!! Anita -------------- Original message from Wanda Nelsen : -------------- > I am searching for any information on NARCISSA COLLENS b: about 1803 > in North > Carolina. > Married to MILTON MCCLELLAN January 1825 in Cabarrus Co. N.C. > I have a copy of the marriage bond. > Census of Mitchell Co. N.C. 1840 and 1850---Grassy Creek District. > Then she disappears. Not on census of 1860 with her family in McDowell Co. > N.C. > Last known residence of her husband was census of 1900, he was living in the > household of their son JOHN MCCLELLAN in Grassy Creek, N.C. at the age of 99 > years. > Milton McClellan is believed to be buried in the PENDLEY cemetary outside of > Spruce Pine N.C. > Family oral history is that NARCISSA COLLENS was Cherokee, but there is no > record to prove it. Her name is not found on any of the Indian Rolls--I have all > of them and i have searched them carefully. I would like to find her parents and > her place of birth, or possible some siblings, any record would be helpful, any > suggestons from listers also. Narcissa Collens McClellan is my great-great grand > mother. Thank you. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Joanne, I have relatives from Montgomery Co. tenn. Althea Ann Collins was born 24, August 1835 in Montgomery Co. married Joseph William Edwards Parents of Althea where: Thomas Collins born 19, March 1809 in North Carolina or Virginia Thomas parents William Collins and Mary Clardy with 13 children Elizabeth, James, Mary, William Collins b. 3, Sept, 1797 m. Fannie Williams they lived in Montgomery County, Sarah, Lucy, John W. Collins b. 14th October, 1804 m. Malinda Bush, Daniel, Thomas, Achillies, Nancy, Susan, Jane [email protected] wrote: Anyo. e out there have any links to the Collins family in Montgomery County, Tennessee ca 1800-1840 or so? Looking for connection between John R. Collins and John W. Collins, David Collins, and William Collins families. Joanne Galvin Researching Northup, Hampton, McCall, Phelps, Blake, Daggett, Syler, Berridge,Plymale, Kinder, Cottrell, Gilbert, Baker, Rood ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have a connection to Sim Collins 43 in Monroe Co, TN 1870; wife Rachel 42, Elizabeth 13, Samuel 11, Caroline 9 yrs, William 7 yrs, Nancy 4 yrs, Robert 3 yrs and Harriet Susan 7 mos.? I believe his dau. Elizabeth Collins could be my g-grandmother who married Henry Cowden in Monroe, TN on Nov 24, 1874. Sandra Larson

I have a George Lewis Collins from Giles county Tn Russell Hehemann <[email protected]> wrote: Sandra, was she married to a HOWARD and lived in Henry Co., Buchanan, Tennessee? Carol Howard Hehemann Sandra Larson wrote: > I have an Elizabeth Collins m. in TN, but was from North Carolina. I have no idea who her parents were. > > Sandra Larson > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the new Yahoo.com

She married Henry COWDEN in Monroe, TN on Nov 24, 1874. In 1880 they were still living in Monroe, TN. In 1900 they were living in Fulton, GA. The marr license said Lizzie COLLONS. I don't know if the spelling was wrong or not. I am at a loss on this one. She was born Mar 1857 and died around 1904. Sandra ----- Original Message ---- From: Russell Hehemann <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2006 8:39:48 PM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Collins family in Tennessee Sandra, was she married to a HOWARD and lived in Henry Co., Buchanan, Tennessee? Carol Howard Hehemann Sandra Larson wrote: > I have an Elizabeth Collins m. in TN, but was from North Carolina. I have no idea who her parents were. > > Sandra Larson > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sandra, was she married to a HOWARD and lived in Henry Co., Buchanan, Tennessee? Carol Howard Hehemann Sandra Larson wrote: > I have an Elizabeth Collins m. in TN, but was from North Carolina. I have no idea who her parents were. > > Sandra Larson > > >

Is your name, WANDA, an Indian name ?? Wanda C. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Wanda Nelsen Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] NARCISSA COLLENS Elizabeth. Thank you for the reply, you have given me another search site. I have looked at some Mulungeon sites in the past but i will look again. While attending an anthropology class at our local college our instructor asked if anyone believed that they had native american bloodline. I stood up and he then asked to examine my teeth. He stated that i did indeed have shovel teeth and an added tooth condition that had 'bugged' me for years. I could feel little blobs on my teeth with my tongue and often wondered why i had extra pieces of enamel on them. The instructor said i had Cherokee Pearls,tiny, round enamel pieces on the inside of my front teeth common to Cherokee people. I thought he was joking and i never did follow up on his exam.Wanda. "Collins, Elizabeth N." <[email protected]> wrote: Try looking in the "Mulegeon" group of Collins. Here is a good website: Vardy Collins' descendents Posted By: Gary Davis Date: Monday, 24 February 2003, at 4:39 p.m. I am descended from Melungeon "patriarch" Vardimon "Vardy" Collins from Newman's Ridge (Hancock county) Tennessee. He and his wife Peggy Gibson Collins have many descendents. The highest concentration of which are in Sneedville,Tennessee. I am kin to Vardy through his daughter (or grandaughter) Clarkia Collins who married Isom Biggs. Whose daughter Delsie Ann Biggs married my Great Great Grandad Noah Lee Ramsey. They were married in Hancock county,Tennessee. For more info please visit http://www.melungeons.com/ Here is another really good one also: http://hometown.aol.com/bbbenge/page15.html When I first heard of the Mulegeons, I assumed they were a "mulatto" line of the Collins, in reading this, that is not the case. Your name of NARCISSA COLLENS rings bells with me on the lines of Vardy Collins. Check these websites out. Beth Collins Wordprocessing McGuireWoods LLP Bank of America Corporate Center 100 N. Tryon Street, Suite 2900 Charlotte, NC 28202 Direct: 704.373.8066 Fax: 704.373.8935 email: [email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise by return e-mail and delete immediately without reading or forwarding to others. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] NARCISSA COLLENS Hi, I have been researching Collins history in Va for 12 yrs. and Narcissa rings a bell, but give me some time to find her. She may be in a book I saw, save my e-mail and remind me if I forget. I am also looking for Indian heritage!!! Anita -------------- Original message from Wanda Nelsen : -------------- > I am searching for any information on NARCISSA COLLENS b: about 1803 > in North > Carolina. > Married to MILTON MCCLELLAN January 1825 in Cabarrus Co. N.C. > I have a copy of the marriage bond. > Census of Mitchell Co. N.C. 1840 and 1850---Grassy Creek District. > Then she disappears. Not on census of 1860 with her family in McDowell Co. > N.C. > Last known residence of her husband was census of 1900, he was living in the > household of their son JOHN MCCLELLAN in Grassy Creek, N.C. at the age of 99 > years. > Milton McClellan is believed to be buried in the PENDLEY cemetary outside of > Spruce Pine N.C. > Family oral history is that NARCISSA COLLENS was Cherokee, but there is no > record to prove it. Her name is not found on any of the Indian Rolls--I have all > of them and i have searched them carefully. I would like to find her parents and > her place of birth, or possible some siblings, any record would be helpful, any > suggestons from listers also. Narcissa Collens McClellan is my great-great grand > mother. Thank you. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have an Elizabeth Collins m. in TN, but was from North Carolina. I have no idea who her parents were. Sandra Larson ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2006 12:49:31 PM Subject: [COLLINS] Collins family in Tennessee Anyone out there have any links to the Collins family in Montgomery County, Tennessee ca 1800-1840 or so? Looking for connection between John R. Collins and John W. Collins, David Collins, and William Collins families. Joanne Galvin Researching Northup, Hampton, McCall, Phelps, Blake, Daggett, Syler, Berridge,Plymale, Kinder, Cottrell, Gilbert, Baker, Rood ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Rose, It's Anita in Va. I am wondering what my cousin, Eric Collins, results were from the DNA test. He lives in Wytheville. Va. You did his results about 8 months ago, and apparently Charles said that he was a 100% match with someone. If you remember, let me know. Thanks, Anita -------------- Original message from "Rose Lowther" <[email protected]>: -------------- > No connection that I know of... > > This is just one line that I keep bumping into time and time again. It > would be really nice to see this line represented in the Collins DNA study > so that finally some answers might be found........either by establishing or > eliminating possible connections to other Colonial era Collins families via > DNA results. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Don and Betty Collins > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:50 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] MEREDITH COLLINS; b. ca. 1760 IN SC - HELP! > > > To Rose Collins Lowther, > > I participated in the DNA study of relative/genetic that connected me 100% > to Joseph Collins of Bertie Co. N.C.. What is the connection of my study to > Joseph and the Meredith Collins DNA study you mention. In other words, is > there a connection between Joseph and Meredith? > > Don Collins > e-mail = [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Rose Lowther > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] MEREDITH COLLINS; b. ca. 1760 IN SC - HELP! > > > I've been looking for a male Collins descended from Meredith Collins(he > needs to be from an unbroken chain of Collins fathers and sons--all the way > back to Meredith). We need such a descendant of Meredith to participate in > the Collins DNA Study at www.relativegenetics.com . Perhaps then we could > tell which Collins ancestors were related to each other in Colonial America. > > Rose Collins Lowther > Collins DNA Study Volunteer > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Garry Felty > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:16 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] MEREDITH COLLINS; b. ca. 1760 IN SC - HELP! > > Shirley: > > Try this web site posted by Brenda Collins Dillon. > http://rootsweb.com/~varussel/families/mcollins.html I found 26 pages of > data on Meridith Collins family. Also can try typing "Meridith Collins > Family" in your search engine. You may be suprised at what pops up. Try > different spellings for Meridith. > > Good luck. > > Garry R. Felty > > bobert wrote: > Hi, Cuzs! I continue to look for - seek - any leads or connections to > Meredith COLLINS; b. ca. 1760 in South Carolina. May be part Indian. > Meredith, like many other COLLINSes had an 'itchy foot' - traveled, > traveled, traveled. Meredith's final home, and resting place, was in Pike > Co., Kentucky. But other than his name on a plaque at the front of county > courthouse with other names of veterans of the Rev. War, data on Meredith is > just about zero! > Several descendants have been looking for more data about Meredith for many > years. > He was in the Revolutionary War at about 16 yrs. of age. > Proposed to be a son of Old John or Old Thomas COLLINS - mother unknown. > He is truly a very thick, unbreachable brick wall to some of us. > > At one time, I was in touch with Brenda Collins Dillon, one of Meredith's > descendants - so a 'cousin of some degree' to me - but she has disappeared > from my scope - Emails I have sent to her. She had not been very well for > some time, but I hope this does not mean the worst of news. > > Any help at all will be truly appreciated! Shirley: [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Anyone out there have any links to the Collins family in Montgomery County, Tennessee ca 1800-1840 or so? Looking for connection between John R. Collins and John W. Collins, David Collins, and William Collins families. Joanne Galvin Researching Northup, Hampton, McCall, Phelps, Blake, Daggett, Syler, Berridge,Plymale, Kinder, Cottrell, Gilbert, Baker, Rood

In a message dated 11/3/2006 9:42:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: We were surprised to see that both participants showed paternal ancestry showing European markers. In other words, Vardy's male ancestors were initially white Europeans If a 'white Collins' had been taken in by a native tribe in early 1600s there would have been close to 10 generations of that white Collins with European DNA mixing with American Indians, so Vardy may have looked very much like an Indian but still carrying the European DNA... I have a good page on the Melungeons and some information on Vardy Collins and also on Valentine Collins who appears to be ancestor of the 'Magoffin County Indians' _http://www.geocities.com/ourmelungeons/front.html_ (http://www.geocities.com/ourmelungeons/front.html) Be sure to use the 'Search" engine on the bottom of the page Joanne

Ok, you have 'em. Great. I'm not surprised at the results. Charles -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rose Lowther Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] VARDY COLLINS There are a couple of participants who descend from Vardy Collins in the Collins DNA Study at Relative Genetics. Both of them expected to see Indian heritage in their DNA results. We were surprised to see that both participants showed paternal ancestry showing European markers. In other words, Vardy's male ancestors were initially white Europeans. Therefore, if American Indian Heritage came into play, perhaps it came from his maternal line. It would be interesting to see results from others in Vardy's line. I wish I had more answers but seems that the more I learn, the more questions I have. Rose ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are a couple of participants who descend from Vardy Collins in the Collins DNA Study at Relative Genetics. Both of them expected to see Indian heritage in their DNA results. We were surprised to see that both participants showed paternal ancestry showing European markers. In other words, Vardy's male ancestors were initially white Europeans. Therefore, if American Indian Heritage came into play, perhaps it came from his maternal line. It would be interesting to see results from others in Vardy's line. I wish I had more answers but seems that the more I learn, the more questions I have. Rose

Well, I'm glad that I answered you. It was coincidence because I received something on Vardy and decided to look again what Muleogen meant, I need to follow up with it also. I believe my dad was part Cherokee, but have never researched it to find out. His name was Allen Banks Nivens and his mother was Jesse Isabelle Crook. Daddy had jet black hair and blue eyes. I thought I had plenty of time to work with him on the Crook lines, I lost him in August of this year to a massive heart attack, he had just turned 70. Now I'll have to do it without him. I've been working on the Collins' lines since 1985. They are from Edgefield, SC although I recently ran across some information that leads me to believe they may have originally been in Virginia. You definitely need to look into the Vardy Collins lines, there are several people that send out information on them. Go to Rootsweb.com (the message boards) and search Tennessee and Vardy Collins that will bring up all postings on him and maybe you can get a name of someone that may be able to help you. Good luck. Beth Collins Wordprocessing McGuireWoods LLP Bank of America Corporate Center 100 N. Tryon Street, Suite 2900 Charlotte, NC 28202 Direct: 704.373.8066 Fax: 704.373.8935 email: [email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise by return e-mail and delete immediately without reading or forwarding to others. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wanda Nelsen Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] NARCISSA COLLENS Elizabeth. Thank you for the reply, you have given me another search site. I have looked at some Mulungeon sites in the past but i will look again. While attending an anthropology class at our local college our instructor asked if anyone believed that they had native american bloodline. I stood up and he then asked to examine my teeth. He stated that i did indeed have shovel teeth and an added tooth condition that had 'bugged' me for years. I could feel little blobs on my teeth with my tongue and often wondered why i had extra pieces of enamel on them. The instructor said i had Cherokee Pearls,tiny, round enamel pieces on the inside of my front teeth common to Cherokee people. I thought he was joking and i never did follow up on his exam.Wanda. "Collins, Elizabeth N." <[email protected]> wrote: Try looking in the "Mulegeon" group of Collins. Here is a good website: Vardy Collins' descendents Posted By: Gary Davis Date: Monday, 24 February 2003, at 4:39 p.m. I am descended from Melungeon "patriarch" Vardimon "Vardy" Collins from Newman's Ridge (Hancock county) Tennessee. He and his wife Peggy Gibson Collins have many descendents. The highest concentration of which are in Sneedville,Tennessee. I am kin to Vardy through his daughter (or grandaughter) Clarkia Collins who married Isom Biggs. Whose daughter Delsie Ann Biggs married my Great Great Grandad Noah Lee Ramsey. They were married in Hancock county,Tennessee. For more info please visit http://www.melungeons.com/ Here is another really good one also: http://hometown.aol.com/bbbenge/page15.html When I first heard of the Mulegeons, I assumed they were a "mulatto" line of the Collins, in reading this, that is not the case. Your name of NARCISSA COLLENS rings bells with me on the lines of Vardy Collins. Check these websites out. Beth Collins Wordprocessing McGuireWoods LLP Bank of America Corporate Center 100 N. Tryon Street, Suite 2900 Charlotte, NC 28202 Direct: 704.373.8066 Fax: 704.373.8935 email: [email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise by return e-mail and delete immediately without reading or forwarding to others. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] NARCISSA COLLENS Hi, I have been researching Collins history in Va for 12 yrs. and Narcissa rings a bell, but give me some time to find her. She may be in a book I saw, save my e-mail and remind me if I forget. I am also looking for Indian heritage!!! Anita -------------- Original message from Wanda Nelsen : -------------- > I am searching for any information on NARCISSA COLLENS b: about 1803 > in North > Carolina. > Married to MILTON MCCLELLAN January 1825 in Cabarrus Co. N.C. > I have a copy of the marriage bond. > Census of Mitchell Co. N.C. 1840 and 1850---Grassy Creek District. > Then she disappears. Not on census of 1860 with her family in McDowell Co. > N.C. > Last known residence of her husband was census of 1900, he was living in the > household of their son JOHN MCCLELLAN in Grassy Creek, N.C. at the age of 99 > years. > Milton McClellan is believed to be buried in the PENDLEY cemetary outside of > Spruce Pine N.C. > Family oral history is that NARCISSA COLLENS was Cherokee, but there is no > record to prove it. Her name is not found on any of the Indian Rolls--I have all > of them and i have searched them carefully. I would like to find her parents and > her place of birth, or possible some siblings, any record would be helpful, any > suggestons from listers also. Narcissa Collens McClellan is my great-great grand > mother. Thank you. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Elizabeth. Thank you for the reply, you have given me another search site. I have looked at some Mulungeon sites in the past but i will look again. While attending an anthropology class at our local college our instructor asked if anyone believed that they had native american bloodline. I stood up and he then asked to examine my teeth. He stated that i did indeed have shovel teeth and an added tooth condition that had 'bugged' me for years. I could feel little blobs on my teeth with my tongue and often wondered why i had extra pieces of enamel on them. The instructor said i had Cherokee Pearls,tiny, round enamel pieces on the inside of my front teeth common to Cherokee people. I thought he was joking and i never did follow up on his exam.Wanda. "Collins, Elizabeth N." <[email protected]> wrote: Try looking in the "Mulegeon" group of Collins. Here is a good website: Vardy Collins' descendents Posted By: Gary Davis Date: Monday, 24 February 2003, at 4:39 p.m. I am descended from Melungeon "patriarch" Vardimon "Vardy" Collins from Newman's Ridge (Hancock county) Tennessee. He and his wife Peggy Gibson Collins have many descendents. The highest concentration of which are in Sneedville,Tennessee. I am kin to Vardy through his daughter (or grandaughter) Clarkia Collins who married Isom Biggs. Whose daughter Delsie Ann Biggs married my Great Great Grandad Noah Lee Ramsey. They were married in Hancock county,Tennessee. For more info please visit http://www.melungeons.com/ Here is another really good one also: http://hometown.aol.com/bbbenge/page15.html When I first heard of the Mulegeons, I assumed they were a "mulatto" line of the Collins, in reading this, that is not the case. Your name of NARCISSA COLLENS rings bells with me on the lines of Vardy Collins. Check these websites out. Beth Collins Wordprocessing McGuireWoods LLP Bank of America Corporate Center 100 N. Tryon Street, Suite 2900 Charlotte, NC 28202 Direct: 704.373.8066 Fax: 704.373.8935 email: [email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise by return e-mail and delete immediately without reading or forwarding to others. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] NARCISSA COLLENS Hi, I have been researching Collins history in Va for 12 yrs. and Narcissa rings a bell, but give me some time to find her. She may be in a book I saw, save my e-mail and remind me if I forget. I am also looking for Indian heritage!!! Anita -------------- Original message from Wanda Nelsen : -------------- > I am searching for any information on NARCISSA COLLENS b: about 1803 > in North > Carolina. > Married to MILTON MCCLELLAN January 1825 in Cabarrus Co. N.C. > I have a copy of the marriage bond. > Census of Mitchell Co. N.C. 1840 and 1850---Grassy Creek District. > Then she disappears. Not on census of 1860 with her family in McDowell Co. > N.C. > Last known residence of her husband was census of 1900, he was living in the > household of their son JOHN MCCLELLAN in Grassy Creek, N.C. at the age of 99 > years. > Milton McClellan is believed to be buried in the PENDLEY cemetary outside of > Spruce Pine N.C. > Family oral history is that NARCISSA COLLENS was Cherokee, but there is no > record to prove it. Her name is not found on any of the Indian Rolls--I have all > of them and i have searched them carefully. I would like to find her parents and > her place of birth, or possible some siblings, any record would be helpful, any > suggestons from listers also. Narcissa Collens McClellan is my great-great grand > mother. Thank you. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try looking in the "Mulegeon" group of Collins. Here is a good website: Vardy Collins' descendents Posted By: Gary Davis <Send E-Mail> Date: Monday, 24 February 2003, at 4:39 p.m. I am descended from Melungeon "patriarch" Vardimon "Vardy" Collins from Newman's Ridge (Hancock county) Tennessee. He and his wife Peggy Gibson Collins have many descendents. The highest concentration of which are in Sneedville,Tennessee. I am kin to Vardy through his daughter (or grandaughter) Clarkia Collins who married Isom Biggs. Whose daughter Delsie Ann Biggs married my Great Great Grandad Noah Lee Ramsey. They were married in Hancock county,Tennessee. For more info please visit http://www.melungeons.com/ Here is another really good one also: http://hometown.aol.com/bbbenge/page15.html When I first heard of the Mulegeons, I assumed they were a "mulatto" line of the Collins, in reading this, that is not the case. Your name of NARCISSA COLLENS rings bells with me on the lines of Vardy Collins. Check these websites out. Beth Collins Wordprocessing McGuireWoods LLP Bank of America Corporate Center 100 N. Tryon Street, Suite 2900 Charlotte, NC 28202 Direct: 704.373.8066 Fax: 704.373.8935 email: [email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise by return e-mail and delete immediately without reading or forwarding to others. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] NARCISSA COLLENS Hi, I have been researching Collins history in Va for 12 yrs. and Narcissa rings a bell, but give me some time to find her. She may be in a book I saw, save my e-mail and remind me if I forget. I am also looking for Indian heritage!!! Anita -------------- Original message from Wanda Nelsen <[email protected]>: -------------- > I am searching for any information on NARCISSA COLLENS b: about 1803 > in North > Carolina. > Married to MILTON MCCLELLAN January 1825 in Cabarrus Co. N.C. > I have a copy of the marriage bond. > Census of Mitchell Co. N.C. 1840 and 1850---Grassy Creek District. > Then she disappears. Not on census of 1860 with her family in McDowell Co. > N.C. > Last known residence of her husband was census of 1900, he was living in the > household of their son JOHN MCCLELLAN in Grassy Creek, N.C. at the age of 99 > years. > Milton McClellan is believed to be buried in the PENDLEY cemetary outside of > Spruce Pine N.C. > Family oral history is that NARCISSA COLLENS was Cherokee, but there is no > record to prove it. Her name is not found on any of the Indian Rolls--I have all > of them and i have searched them carefully. I would like to find her parents and > her place of birth, or possible some siblings, any record would be helpful, any > suggestons from listers also. Narcissa Collens McClellan is my great-great grand > mother. Thank you. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No connection that I know of... This is just one line that I keep bumping into time and time again. It would be really nice to see this line represented in the Collins DNA study so that finally some answers might be found........either by establishing or eliminating possible connections to other Colonial era Collins families via DNA results. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don and Betty Collins Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:50 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] MEREDITH COLLINS; b. ca. 1760 IN SC - HELP! To Rose Collins Lowther, I participated in the DNA study of relative/genetic that connected me 100% to Joseph Collins of Bertie Co. N.C.. What is the connection of my study to Joseph and the Meredith Collins DNA study you mention. In other words, is there a connection between Joseph and Meredith? Don Collins e-mail = [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Rose Lowther Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] MEREDITH COLLINS; b. ca. 1760 IN SC - HELP! I've been looking for a male Collins descended from Meredith Collins(he needs to be from an unbroken chain of Collins fathers and sons--all the way back to Meredith). We need such a descendant of Meredith to participate in the Collins DNA Study at www.relativegenetics.com . Perhaps then we could tell which Collins ancestors were related to each other in Colonial America. Rose Collins Lowther Collins DNA Study Volunteer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Garry Felty Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] MEREDITH COLLINS; b. ca. 1760 IN SC - HELP! Shirley: Try this web site posted by Brenda Collins Dillon. http://rootsweb.com/~varussel/families/mcollins.html I found 26 pages of data on Meridith Collins family. Also can try typing "Meridith Collins Family" in your search engine. You may be suprised at what pops up. Try different spellings for Meridith. Good luck. Garry R. Felty bobert <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, Cuzs! I continue to look for - seek - any leads or connections to Meredith COLLINS; b. ca. 1760 in South Carolina. May be part Indian. Meredith, like many other COLLINSes had an 'itchy foot' - traveled, traveled, traveled. Meredith's final home, and resting place, was in Pike Co., Kentucky. But other than his name on a plaque at the front of county courthouse with other names of veterans of the Rev. War, data on Meredith is just about zero! Several descendants have been looking for more data about Meredith for many years. He was in the Revolutionary War at about 16 yrs. of age. Proposed to be a son of Old John or Old Thomas COLLINS - mother unknown. He is truly a very thick, unbreachable brick wall to some of us. At one time, I was in touch with Brenda Collins Dillon, one of Meredith's descendants - so a 'cousin of some degree' to me - but she has disappeared from my scope - Emails I have sent to her. She had not been very well for some time, but I hope this does not mean the worst of news. Any help at all will be truly appreciated! Shirley: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've been looking for a male Collins descended from Meredith Collins(he needs to be from an unbroken chain of Collins fathers and sons--all the way back to Meredith). We need such a descendant of Meredith to participate in the Collins DNA Study at www.relativegenetics.com . Perhaps then we could tell which Collins ancestors were related to each other in Colonial America. Rose Collins Lowther Collins DNA Study Volunteer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Garry Felty Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COLLINS] MEREDITH COLLINS; b. ca. 1760 IN SC - HELP! Shirley: Try this web site posted by Brenda Collins Dillon. http://rootsweb.com/~varussel/families/mcollins.html I found 26 pages of data on Meridith Collins family. Also can try typing "Meridith Collins Family" in your search engine. You may be suprised at what pops up. Try different spellings for Meridith. Good luck. Garry R. Felty bobert <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, Cuzs! I continue to look for - seek - any leads or connections to Meredith COLLINS; b. ca. 1760 in South Carolina. May be part Indian. Meredith, like many other COLLINSes had an 'itchy foot' - traveled, traveled, traveled. Meredith's final home, and resting place, was in Pike Co., Kentucky. But other than his name on a plaque at the front of county courthouse with other names of veterans of the Rev. War, data on Meredith is just about zero! Several descendants have been looking for more data about Meredith for many years. He was in the Revolutionary War at about 16 yrs. of age. Proposed to be a son of Old John or Old Thomas COLLINS - mother unknown. He is truly a very thick, unbreachable brick wall to some of us. At one time, I was in touch with Brenda Collins Dillon, one of Meredith's descendants - so a 'cousin of some degree' to me - but she has disappeared from my scope - Emails I have sent to her. She had not been very well for some time, but I hope this does not mean the worst of news. Any help at all will be truly appreciated! Shirley: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message