Though I eagerly await each and EVERY collins list submission, I have yet to get help either substantiated or unsubstantiated. I would love to have anything, more than I have now. I hope to post my Alabama? and definitely Georgia Collins again soon, seeking help. Only some of my research is accurate the rest is at best BEST GUESS. But it is all I have. Please keep it coming. William Arthur Collins iv (I was born the iii but research proved I was the iv) My friends and family just call me Bill

Dear Lori, Were you working on another list and surname that I was in on ?? But, on COLLINS: I have enjoyed your postings, and particularly those connected to IL and MO. According to my unreliable and sketchy information, my grandfather Fred Harvey Collins was born in East St. Louis IL in 1882, father also born IL, mother MO. Married Maud Yake of Park City UT, died AZ about 1926, while working the mines of Globe-Miami AZ. I think he was a miner all his life. In the 1910 Los Angeles directory he was listed as a grading engineer, and Park City was a mining town at the time. I believe he was also a lifelong member of the Loyal Order of Moose. After his death, my mother (Alice Edith Collins) attended Mooseheart in IL, as an orphan of a member. Let me know if you run into him !! and keep that research coming !!! Good luck ! Bill Blackburn Mt. Shasta, CA

I agree with Cornelia 100% as I have found many leads on the internet. The only garbage I ever see is from somebody who must live in a perfect world and doesn't accept anything unless it's verified but the Supreme Court. vernl Cornelia Warner wrote: > This is exactly WHY we post our messages and queries to the lists, > websites, etc. to ensure that enough researchers can look at data, right or > wrong, examine it, discuss it, hypothesise about it, bring in new data, > correlate it or discard it. chemical researchers, medical researchers, or > family researchers, it doesn't matter. all research requires an examination > of the facts, the hypothesis, the falicies, over and over until a basis of > data becomes factual. That doesn't mean absolutely correct. those records > we call primary, are full of errors. someone didn't know, couldn't > remember, lied...whatever. However, I can hardly see Bible records, > considered a primary source in genealogical research, as "garbage". Actual > research garbage is false data, especially that which is intentionally used > to misslead the researcher, but also the wishful dreams of a victorian > ancestor who would like to think that they are descended from Pocahontas, > George Washington, or Betsy Ross, or the Captain of a ship, inventor or > explorer, and who, in the process of such wishfulness, wrote down such > unproven and usually unfactual information in their diary, or even, in > their own research. in reality, many of those stories, as Sam Clemmens > said, are greatly exaggerated. How many times I have followed such will 'o > the wisps with careful documentation policies, I hate to say. (I had a very > wishful grandmother.) if we keep our information to ourselves, how then do > we verify it? documentation? well, ok, but what if it's wrong? I've seen > something with three documents to it that was soundly disproved by another, > so you can't swear by documentation. You can, however, trust full, thorough > research. > All I see is someone trying to untangle a confusing genealogy of common > names, and asking for help in doing so. In the process, they are providing > Bible records to many people, some who may be descendants and may not even > know a Bible exists for this family. who of us hasn't found a confusing > genealogy in their research? like the black sheep, if you haven't found one > yet, you will. > Cornelia > > >If you don't have any idea of the accuracy of this information, why in the > world would you dump this > >much garbage out there? Wouldn't be a better idea just to wait to see if > anyone is interested in > >this guesswork and then send it to them privately? > >-----Original Message----- > >From: DITTOBYTE <DITTOBYTE@aol.com>

You tell 'em Cornelia, and I'll cheer you on. Unlike Brian R. Donnelly, I didn't think it was garbage, either. In fact, though I can't quite nail down a solid connection from what DITTOBYTE sent, her post was the FIRST thing posted on the COLLINS-L since I've been a subscriber that even might the people I've been searching. I'm thankful that it was posted. If anyone doesn't want to read this stuff, they can delete it. C.L. Collins Cornelia Warner wrote: > This is exactly WHY we post our messages and queries to the lists, > websites, etc. to ensure that enough researchers can look at data, right or > wrong, examine it, discuss it, hypothesise about it, bring in new data, > correlate it or discard it. chemical researchers, medical researchers, or > family researchers, it doesn't matter. all research requires an examination > of the facts, the hypothesis, the falicies, over and over until a basis of > data becomes factual. That doesn't mean absolutely correct. those records > we call primary, are full of errors. someone didn't know, couldn't > remember, lied...whatever. However, I can hardly see Bible records, > considered a primary source in genealogical research, as "garbage". Actual > research garbage is false data, especially that which is intentionally used > to misslead the researcher, but also the wishful dreams of a victorian > ancestor who would like to think that they are descended from Pocahontas, > George Washington, or Betsy Ross, or the Captain of a ship, inventor or > explorer, and who, in the process of such wishfulness, wrote down such > unproven and usually unfactual information in their diary, or even, in > their own research. in reality, many of those stories, as Sam Clemmens > said, are greatly exaggerated. How many times I have followed such will 'o > the wisps with careful documentation policies, I hate to say. (I had a very > wishful grandmother.) if we keep our information to ourselves, how then do > we verify it? documentation? well, ok, but what if it's wrong? I've seen > something with three documents to it that was soundly disproved by another, > so you can't swear by documentation. You can, however, trust full, thorough > research. > All I see is someone trying to untangle a confusing genealogy of common > names, and asking for help in doing so. In the process, they are providing > Bible records to many people, some who may be descendants and may not even > know a Bible exists for this family. who of us hasn't found a confusing > genealogy in their research? like the black sheep, if you haven't found one > yet, you will. > Cornelia > > >If you don't have any idea of the accuracy of this information, why in the > world would you dump this > >much garbage out there? Wouldn't be a better idea just to wait to see if > anyone is interested in > >this guesswork and then send it to them privately? > >-----Original Message----- > >From: DITTOBYTE <DITTOBYTE@aol.com>

This is exactly WHY we post our messages and queries to the lists, websites, etc. to ensure that enough researchers can look at data, right or wrong, examine it, discuss it, hypothesise about it, bring in new data, correlate it or discard it. chemical researchers, medical researchers, or family researchers, it doesn't matter. all research requires an examination of the facts, the hypothesis, the falicies, over and over until a basis of data becomes factual. That doesn't mean absolutely correct. those records we call primary, are full of errors. someone didn't know, couldn't remember, lied...whatever. However, I can hardly see Bible records, considered a primary source in genealogical research, as "garbage". Actual research garbage is false data, especially that which is intentionally used to misslead the researcher, but also the wishful dreams of a victorian ancestor who would like to think that they are descended from Pocahontas, George Washington, or Betsy Ross, or the Captain of a ship, inventor or explorer, and who, in the process of such wishfulness, wrote down such unproven and usually unfactual information in their diary, or even, in their own research. in reality, many of those stories, as Sam Clemmens said, are greatly exaggerated. How many times I have followed such will 'o the wisps with careful documentation policies, I hate to say. (I had a very wishful grandmother.) if we keep our information to ourselves, how then do we verify it? documentation? well, ok, but what if it's wrong? I've seen something with three documents to it that was soundly disproved by another, so you can't swear by documentation. You can, however, trust full, thorough research. All I see is someone trying to untangle a confusing genealogy of common names, and asking for help in doing so. In the process, they are providing Bible records to many people, some who may be descendants and may not even know a Bible exists for this family. who of us hasn't found a confusing genealogy in their research? like the black sheep, if you haven't found one yet, you will. Cornelia >If you don't have any idea of the accuracy of this information, why in the world would you dump this >much garbage out there? Wouldn't be a better idea just to wait to see if anyone is interested in >this guesswork and then send it to them privately? >-----Original Message----- >From: DITTOBYTE <DITTOBYTE@aol.com>

If you don't have any idea of the accuracy of this information, why in the world would you dump this much garbage out there? Wouldn't be a better idea just to wait to see if anyone is interested in this guesswork and then send it to them privately? -----Original Message----- From: DITTOBYTE <DITTOBYTE@aol.com> To: COLLINS-L@rootsweb.com <COLLINS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, April 25, 1998 7:29 PM Subject: Here is some stuff I found on Collins Okay everyone, All of these listings has got me motivated to try and put some of this stuff together. I have been trying since yesterday to index what I have, which is no easy feat. We have several Collins lines with the dates way off. The names are all the same, but dates are not together. Anyway, I am trying. When I get this stuff done, I will email what I have to the list. Please keep in mind that what I have is from listings of other people, and has not been researched by me. If it has been I will let you know. As always, take the information with a grain of salt, and hopefully it will lead you in another direction which will give you some results. Here are some bible records I found in a file through the Family research center here in San Antonio, Tx: Copy of an Old Bible belonging to Reuben Collins who lived acorss the line of Kershaw in Fairfield Co., SC. This Bible was bought in Ireland ands is now owned by a gentleman living in Monterey, Cal. The following was written in old Englis scropt and had to be deciphered with the use of a magnifying glass. This from Mrs. Dudley Conner 109 13 Ave. Hattiesburg, MS. Reuben Collins b 1758 d 8 Oct 1830 Monaca Collins (nee Duren) no dates on her. List of Children: 1) Elizabeth Collins b 27 July 1783 md) ? Sanders 2) Marable Collins (Twin to Elizabeth above, and also a male) b 27 July 1783 3) Susanner Collins b 16 Dec 1785 4) Jesse (Tepe) Collins b 16 Dec 1790 5) Lewis Collins b 18 Jan 1793 6) Bartlet Collins b 8 July 1797 7) Thomas D. Collins b 22 June 1803 Okay, I show the parents of Reuben Collins to be William Collins b? d 1792 SC his will probated 29 Feb 1792 and Elizabeth Bashaw. Following is that will: Kershaw County Will of William Collins Pr. 29 Feb 1792 no wife mentioned, but from further research we find her to be Elizabeth Bashaw. Children: 1) Caty Collins wife of JOhn Gayden 2) Reuben Collins 3) Elizabeth Collins married? Jones 4)William Collins, Jr 5) Joseph Collins 6) Bashaw Collins 7) Sarah Collins Ex. Son Reuben and John Gayden Wit. John Green, Thomas Gardner, and Joanna Gayden. Now, can anyone tell me if this is the same Reuben Collins who married Monaca Duren? On with the Bible: The Bible was continued by the son Thomas D. Collinad and these entries occured: About 1835 he moved to Alabama and then to Mississppi. Thomas D. Collins and Winefred, his wife was married 10 Aug 1820 Winefred Walters was born 4 Feb 1800 d 4 Oct 1859 Their children: 1) Elijah Collins b 9 May 1821 2) Monaca Collins b 8 Oct 1823 3) Tepe L. Collins b 26 July 1826 4) Alexander T. Collins b 15 Dec 1828 5) Asa Walters Collins b 14 Dec 1830 6) Winefred Collins b 7 Jan 1833 7) Sara Jane Collins b 25 Dec 1835 8) Mary Collins b 18 Jan 1837 9) Leroy George Collins b 27 May 1838 10) Thomas B. Collins b 24 July 1841 I am interested in this line, as my direct line is Walters who married into the Collins line. I have Asa Walters b abt 1785 SC. I am wondering if Winefred Walters could be part of his family. I have some papers showing that Thomas D. Collins bought some land from Asa Walters in Miss. My Asa Walters, and my Walters family also were in Miss. Again, on with the Bible: The Bible was continued in a new copy by Elijah; Evidently his father Thomas D. Collins had moved from fairfield to Spartanburg Co., SC from the first entry. Elijah Collins was b in Spartanburg Co, SC 9 May 1821 and died in March 1887 in Miss. He married Penelope McClendon, a daughter of Dennis McClendon on Anson County, NC. Penelope Ann McClendon was b 25 Mar 1828 and died in 1870. The death portions of the two entries above were added in pencil later. Their children: 1) Jonathan D. Collins b 22 Oct 1843 2) Jessie M. Collins b 9 April 1847 3) Silas E. Collins b 23 May 1852 "added later in bible Died in Texas in 1940". 4) Alexander G. Collins b 13 Aug 1853 5) Penelope Ann Collins b 17 Dec 1854 6) Monacha Collins b 11 Aug 1853 7) Elijah Thomas Collins b 7 JUly 1858 8) Sarah Jane Collins b 14 May 1861 9) William Lee Collins b 4 Jan 1864 "added later d 28 Aug 1840. 10) Mary Sedonia Collins b 27 Dec 1867 11) Theodosha Collins b 28 Aug 1870 It continues with Mary Sedonia Collins married James Augustus Rayburn on 23 Dec 1885 in Newton County, MS and gives list of their children: 1) Ella Iola Rayburn b 19 Oct 1886 2) Quincy Elijah Rayburn b 4 Oct 1888 3) Irvin Augustus Rayburn b 24 May 1890 d 8 Oct 1932 4) Albert Lane Rayburn b 31 July 1894 5) Leovonia Rayburn b 1 Feb 1899 6) Sally Mary Rayburn b 9 Feb 1901 7) Effie Lois Rayburn b 12 JUne 1904 >From an old letter in the original Reuben Collins Bible: "Thomas D. Collins had red hair and his wife Winefred was very dark and Dutch and spake very broken English. I can remember my father telling me that they (Walters Family) that they first settled in Yourk, Pennsylvania and from there to Spartanburg Co., SC, but my father says they settled first in the southern part of NC., (perhaps Anson, Co." This Thomas D. Collins by having wed in Spartanburg, may account for his leavingFairfield-Kershaw. The Kershaw Collins also had many relatives to settle in Spartanbur. All of the Mary Collins Brockman set who came to SC settled in Spartanburg and so did the families of the Kilgore and Patterson men who wed the daughter of Lewis Collins, Jr. and hi wife Lois Hammond. A branch of the Collins family also settled in Spartanburg. It is thought that they were cousins of the Kershaw set being the sons and grandsosn of a brother of Capt. Joseph Collins of Spotsylvania, Co., Va. Here is what I have on Lewis Collins b 1783-1815 married 1788 Charlotte Lois Hammond 1784-1883. Children: 1) Elizabeth b 1790 married 1808 Joseph Patterson 1787 2) Wilie 1796-1816 3) Alethea Lois 1804 married Jesse Kilgore 1797. Children of Elizabeth Collins and Joseph Patterson: 1) Lewis Jefferson 1810-1892 married 1840 Margaret Wardlaw. No issue 2) Mary Alethea 1812 Married 1831 James Ross Dye. No issue 3) Charlotte Sarah b 1816 d 1897 married 1835 James S. Thompson 4) Joseph Wilie and Wyatt Patterson, twins died young. Children of Alethea Lois Collins and Jesse Kilgore: 1) James Lewis Collins b 1822 His Daughter Lois married William McKain 2) Charlotte Keziah b 1840 m 1858 Watt Wardlaw I will email more as I come across it. Regarding my quetions above on Reuben being the child of William Collins and Elizabeth Bashaw, I would sure like to know. Sincerely, Lori ______________________________

Appreciate the info on various Collins lines. Between DITTOBYTE's and barbmore's work, I now have a good working theory re the ancestors of my John Collins, m. Mahala Houston in 1807. And that's alot better than what I had a few months ago. I can now spend my limited library time more productively. Thanks to all of you who share information. Beth

Here are the descendants to Thomas Collins ...1Thomas Collins d 3 June 1751 Spotsylvania Co VA ....+unknown ......2Joyeaux Collins ......2Richard Collins second wife of Thomas Collins ....+Elizabeth (Barbee)Redd b abt 1715 (parents John Barbee, Ann Miller) ......2Thomas Collins b.abt 1740 Albemarle Co.VA,d before 1820 Madison Co. KY ......+Nancy Ann Garland d abt 1780 .........3Garland Collins m 1 Nov 1798, Madison Co. KY .........+Betsy Moberly .........3Nancy Collins m 29 Oct 1795 Madison Co. KY .........+John Maupin .........3Betsy Collins m 29 Jan 1793 Madison Co. KY .........+John Williams .........3Barbee Collins b 4 Jan 1771 Albemarle Co, VA, d 15 June 1843, m 24 June 1795 .........+Mary Woods b 31 July 1780 Montgomery Co. VA (parents Archibald Woods, Mourning Harris Shelton), d 23 July 1822 Franklin Co. TN ..............4Mourning Collins ..............+ ? Green ..............4William Collins b abt 1798 Madison Co. KY, d aft 1860 Marshall Co. AL ..............+Elizabeth Hudspeth ..............4James G. Collins abt 1800-before 1853 ..............+Sarah G. Bredden 1800-1880 ..............4Thomas Collins abt 1802 - ..............4Ann(a) Collins b 23 Sept 1803 TN, d 26 July 1882, Franklin Co. TN ..............+Joseph Knuckles abt. 1796 - 1853 ..............4Archibald Woods Collins b 23 Sept 1803 d c. 1884, Jackson Co. AL ..............+Eliza Maxwell Reid ..............+ (2nd)Malinda Reid ..............+ (3rd)Frances F. Martin, d 1905 ..............4Rice Garland Collins abt 1805 - before 1861 ..............+Hester Malinda Feemster ..............4Sarah "Sally" Collins b 8 Dec 1812 Franklin Co. TN, d c. 1852 Fayette Co., TX, m 1834 Franklin Co. TN ..............+James Robbins ..............2nd wife of Barbee Collins, m 27 May 1823, Madison Co. KY ..............+Hannah Woods abt 1797 - bef 1858 .........3Thomas Collins b abt 1789 .....2nd wife of Thomas Collins .....+Susannah Wallace 1742-1813 .........3Peggy Collins .........3Sallie Collins .........+William Duncan .........3William Collins ......2William Collins 1745-1750 Hope this will help someone. Barbara Potts bpotts@n-link.com

Here's about all I know about my Collins family. Perry COLLINS b. ca 1800 KY d. betwen 1850-1860 Adams Co. IL m. Lucretia ? b ca 1814 IN ? d. after 1860 (on 1860 census in Adams co. IL) Children: 1. Emily b ca 1836 KY 2. James A. b. ca 1840 IN 3. Rachel b. ca 1846 IN or IL 4. Perry A. b. ca 1848 IN or IL d. Denver, CO 5. Narcissa A. b. ca 1850 IN or IL (1 month old on 1850 census Adams Co. IL and on 1860 census same county in IL) Perry A. COLLINS b. ca 1848 d. Denver, CO m. Alvira McCutcheon b. MO d. Denver, CO Children: 1. Mattie COLLINS b. car 1870 Rolla, MO d. 1901 Xenia, OH m. Irving Ferguson McKay 1889 in Evans, CO 2. Ida COLLINS b. after 1870 3. Clara COLLINS b. ca 1878 m. George Gebhardt 4. Myrtle COLLINS b. ca 1881 m. Dudley 5. Dorothy COLLINS b. ca 1889 m. Ed Krick Anyone have a connection? Stan Walker

Seeking information on any Whitworth/Collins marriages in North Carolina from 1830 to 1860. Any help greatly appreciated. David Dycus _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Carol: Our Collins/Aaron/Ennis families bounced back and forth from Washington County, Arkansas and Adair County, Kentucky. I don't have my Collins line up at the moment but I will try to re-post it next week. Anyway, the Collins married into the Aaron & Ennis families long before 1920 and you will find this information in their lines which are posted on my FTM homepage. Let me know if you make a connection. Ruth -- Best of wishes in your journey down the river of life. http://wwp.mirabilis.com/8959306 http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/l/Ruth-A-Collins/

I don't have my immigrant COLLINS ancestor. What I DO have is: COLLINS, William Gregory b. 2 Feb. 1844 in Kentucky m. 10 Mar 1870 in Freestone, Co., TX to: ACOCK, Lucy Etta (Lucy b. Apr 1854 Polk Co., MO & d. after Apr 1914 Graham, Young Co., TX) d. 31 May 1904 Weatherford, Parker Co., TX Wm. G. COLLINS was a Confederate veteran of the Civil War. I know nothing of his parents or where in KY he was from. He may have had a brother named, Mart COLLINS. The 1850 Census for Logan Co., KY lists a 6 yr. old William COLLINS with his parents, Robert E. COLLINS, age 44, farmer and Nancy COLLINS, age 38. I would be very curious to know if anyone is researching the Logan Co., KY COLLINS line. Children of William Gregory Collins and Lucy Etta (ACOCK) COLLINS were: 1. Albert K. COLLINS m 1st: (?) Lee, m 2nd: Dorothy RIPPSTEIN. He had son, Joseph Albert COLLINS by 1st wife, and daughter, Dorothy Vivian COLLINS by 2nd wife 2. William Benjamin "Ben" COLLINS m Mary (?) and had 8 children: Joseph, James W., Leon, Genivieve, Maggie, John, Barry, & Katie COLLINS 3. Horace Edwin "Ed" COLLINS (my line) b. 13 Dec. 1879 Tehuacana, Limestone Co., TX d. 11 Nov. 1963 Wichita Falls, Wichita Co., TX m. 1st: Mattie Belle PAGE 1 May 1904 Weatherford, Parker Co., TX (Mattie b. 1 Oct 1889 in TN & d. 12 Mar 1957 Long Beach, L.A., Co., CA m. 2nd: Mary (?) Ed & Mattie had 4 children: Noel C. "James", William G., Tom R. & Melva Jean COLLINS Ed & Mary had child: Virgina Ann COLLINS 4. G. Frank COLLINS b. Dec 1884 in TX and m. Bessie (?) & had 3 children: Robert Paul, Forrest, & Francis COLLINS 5. Charles F. COLLINS b. Mar 1889 in TX and m. Bessie (?) & had 1 boy & 1 girl (don't know names) 6. Marietta COLLINS b. June 1894 in TX m. William Jefferson PAGE and had 5 children: William, Gertrude Luetta, Muriel Francis, Richard & Patricia PAGE (Richard & Patricia were twins) I have details of my ancestor's Civil War record if anyone is researching this line.

Good Afternoon All: I'm looking for more on James Collins, b. 1787 in SC, married Susannah ___ . Became father of Stanmire Collins in 1821 in SC. Stanmire married Margaret ___, and they became the parents of Mary Francis Collins in Ashville AL in 1843. Does anyone recognize any of these elusive people? Thanks, Sheron Sheppard

Hi all, Sorry to keep doing this, but I keep finding things, and hopefully this will help someone. This again is from the research of Mr. Dunn: John Collins b? d? Will was filed 18 March 1752, I do not know who he married but children listed were: William Collins John Collins, Jr. David Collins Joseph Collins Mikell (Michael) Collins md Elizabeth Drake 21 Dec 1773 Bute Co., NC Demsey Collins Jesse Collins Absolom Collins Also mentioned in will was grandsons John Keen and John Collins Will of John Collins in Bute Co., NC filed 18 March 1752 He left his son William, land in "Cashi River" (the Cashie), to his sons John and David each a bible, to his son Joseph a Plantation on "Guy Hall Swamp" (Guy's Hall Swamp), to his son Mikell his survey on Redbud, and other land to sons Demsey, Jesse, and Absolom, plus bequests to his gransons John Keen and John Collins. Notes on Mikell (Michael) Collins Franklin Co, Will Book A, we find a guardian account for Michael Collins, orphan of Michael Collins, dec'd. Mosely Collins was Ex. of Michael Collins estate. The next is more Collins, and I do not know if they go together with the line above: James Collins b abt 1664 his child William Collins b abt 1700 d 1768 William Collins b abt 1700 Kingsdale d 1768 md Sarah ? children: James Collins b abt 1740 d bef 1744 Jesse Collins Elizabeth Collins (shows in will as Keen, poss. md a Keen) Mary Collins (also shows as Keen, again poss. md a Keen) Jethro Collins William Collins d 1768 Notes on William Collins b abt 1700 d 1767 William Collins mad his will on 14 Aug 1767. He menitons his legal wife Sarah, his son James, his son Jesse, his daughter Elizabeth Keen, his daughter Mary Keen, and Jethro Collins. His wife Sarah was named Executrix. The witnesses were Thomas Lnkfor, Jr. Jonathan Robertson, and Archelaus Roberts.The Will was filed for probate on 4 Feb 1768 so he died sometime between Aug of 1767 and Feb of 1768. On Marh 3 1768, the estate of William Collins was appraised by John Daughtery, Jonathan Robinson, and Joshua Council. James Collins b abt 1740 md Esther. Children: James Collins b 180ct 1758 Isle of Wight, Va 1m? 2m) Temperance Vinson William Collins will dated 15 may 1821 md) Nancy Wadkins 31 Aug 1802 Henry Collins Elisha Collins David Collins md Elizabeth Betsy Willis 31 Jan 1803 Jesse Collins Esther Collins (shown in his will as Esther Gilliam) and having a son named Dixon Collins) not sure if she was a Gilliam md a Collins or what. Children of William Collins and Nancy Wadkins: Jesse Collins md) Mary Ann Murphy 25 Nov 1847 and/or Patsey Cooke 23 Nov 1814 James Collins William Collins md Temperance Gilliam 27 Dec 1823 Theodorick Collins md Martha Nelms 8 Jan 1825 Littlebury Collins md Sally Nelms 2 Jan 1822 Littleton Collins Nancy Collins Patience Collins md Newton Davis 9 Feb 1829 Nathanael Collins Children of David Collins and Elizabeth Betsey Willis were: William Collins James Collins Milley Collins Jesse Collins s/o James and Esther died before his father. He left: Whitney Collins, and Elisha Collins. Okay, that is it for this right now. I will keep trying to sort this out, and Pass it along. Sincerely, Lori

Good morning again, As I am going over this Collins stuff, I have found some information sent to me by Michael Collins Dunn. It is a good research guide. In it there is some question about William Collins marrying Ann Wilds. Let me type it, and then if anyone can clear this up for me I would appreciate it. The William Collins from whom this family descend is the same one who married Ann Wilds in1675, which raises Questions about the accuracy of the Collins genealogy just cited. For their William Collins is said to have died in 1705, and their connection with him requires him to have lived that long. Ann Wilds, who was already the widow of Thomas Wilds when she married William Collins in 1675, subsequently married Alexander Murray in 1687, soon after the death of William Collins, who Obviouly had to have died before 1687 and is therefore not the man who died in 1705. Her will, at the age of 49 on 10 Feb 1700/1701 (Old Style: 1701 by our calendar) mentions her son John Collins, daughter Ann Collins, and daughter Martha and Mary Murray, the last two to live with their Uncle Robert King, suggesting that perhaps her Maiden name was King. Thus the William who married Ann Wilds was not the progenitor of the Collinses described in the book cited, since he died long befor their William Collins did, in King and Queen County in 1705.The Caroline County and Spotsylvania Co., Collinses cannot descend from the William who married Ann Wilds, though one will find many books which affirm that they do. Ref: The marriage of William Collins to Mrs. Ann Wilds, relict of Thomas Wilds, is in Isle of Wight Co. Will and Deed Book 2 (Rev.) p 35., see Blanche Adams Chapman, compiler, Isle of Wight County Marriages, 1628-1800, page 12. For William Collins' death, see Blanche Adams Chapman, Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight County, Virginia, 1647-1800, appraisal cited on page 27 (p. 271 of orginal will book); fo Ann Wilds Collins marriage to Alexander Murray, see Will and Deed Book 2, p. 62, cited in Chapman, Marriages, p. 37. For Murray's death and Ann's nuncupative will, see Wills and Administrations p. 40 and 41. These show that the William Collins traced in the Collins and Travis families book, who died many yrs after this William collins, is not the one who married Ann Wilds. I would love some feed back on this. I would like to get this straight. Let me know. Sincerely, Lori

Good morning again, As I am going over this Collins stuff, I have found some information sent to me by Michael Collins Dunn. It is a good research guide. In it there is some question about William Collins marrying Ann Wilds. Let me type it, and then if anyone can clear this up for me I would appreciate it. The William Collins from whom this family descend is the same one who married Ann Wilds in1675, which raises Questions about the accuracy of the Collins genealogy just cited. For their William Collins is said to have died in 1705, and their connection with him requires him to have lived that long. Ann Wilds, who was already the widow of Thomas Wilds when she married William Collins in 1675, subsequently married Alexander Murray in 1687, soon after the death of William Collins, who Obviouly had to have died before 1687 and is therefore not the man who died in 1705. Her will, at the age of 49 on 10 Feb 1700/1701 (Old Style: 1701 by our calendar) mentions her son John Collins, daughter Ann Collins, and daughter Martha and Mary Murray, the last two to live with their Uncle Robert King, suggesting that perhaps her Maiden name was King. Thus the William who married Ann Wilds was not the progenitor of the Collinses described in the book cited, since he died long befor their William Collins did, in King and Queen County in 1705.The Caroline County and Spotsylvania Co., Collinses cannot descend from the William who married Ann Wilds, though one will find many books which affirm that they do. Ref: The marriage of William Collins to Mrs. Ann Wilds, relict of Thomas Wilds, is in Isle of Wight Co. Will and Deed Book 2 (Rev.) p 35., see Blanche Adams Chapman, compiler, Isle of Wight County Marriages, 1628-1800, page 12. For William Collins' death, see Blanche Adams Chapman, Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight County, Virginia, 1647-1800, appraisal cited on page 27 (p. 271 of orginal will book); fo Ann Wilds Collins marriage to Alexander Murray, see Will and Deed Book 2, p. 62, cited in Chapman, Marriages, p. 37. For Murray's death and Ann's nuncupative will, see Wills and Administrations p. 40 and 41. These show that the William Collins traced in the Collins and Travis families book, who died many yrs after this William collins, is not the one who married Ann Wilds. I would love some feed back on this. I would like to get this straight. Let me know. Sincerely, Lori

Good morning everyone, Here is the rest of what I have so far. I will be working on this some more today, and will email you what I find. Joseph Collins b i have 1678 d 3 May 1748 married Catherine Robertson (Robinson) (d/o John Robertson (Robinson) Their children William Collins Thomas Collins Joseph Collins, Capt b 1709 Capt. Joseph Collins b 1709 d 27 Aug 1757 Spotsylvania, Co., Va married Susannah Lewis (d/0 Zachary Lewis) they had: James Collins married Elizabeth Wilie John Collins, Sr b 1703 md Ann Cook William Collins md Elizabeth Bashaw Thomas Collins md Susannah Wyatt Davis Bartlett Lewis Collins md Elizabeth/ and Ann Wisom/Wisdom (I am not sure if this is correct) Susanna Ann Collins md John Wisdon Mary Collins md John Brockman Catherine Caty Collins md Benjamin Glaze (Glass) Susannah Collins md Willilam Gholson Tabitha Collins 1m) Henry Gatewood, 2m) John Holliday Drucilla Collins Edward Collins (I am not sure, if he fits here) William Collins who md Elizabeth Bashaw had: Catherine Collins Catherine Collins (above) married 9 Mar 1773 orange Co., Va to Jon Gayden (s/o George Gayden and Hannah) b 9 march Farnham Parish, Richmond Co., Va d abt 1811 Kershaw Co., SC. They had: Sarah Gayden b 14 Feb 1775 George Gayden b abt 1776 Abner Gayden William Gayden Uriah C. Gayden b abt 1787 Elijah Gayden b abt 1787 (there was a note saying that Elijah was a twin to Uriah) Susannah Gayden John Gayden,Jr b abt 1790 Spencer Gayden b abt 1795 Reuben Gayden b 12 Oct 1797 Mary Collins married John Brockman they had: Samuel Brockman John Brockman md Amelia Martin Susannh Brockman md ? Atkins Sarah Brockman md Thacker Quisenberry Elizabeth Brockman Hannah Brockman Mary Brockman Rachel Brockman Major Brockman md Jessie Jones John Brockman, Jr who married Amelia Martin and had: John Brockman, III md Mary K. (it has her last name as Brockman. I am not sure if this is her husbands name, or if she could have been a cousin) Mary Brockman md Joel Dean Annie Brockman md Thomas Parks Major Brockman md Mary Patterson md) 1779 Lucy Brockman md John Owens Henry Martin Brockman md Susannah Patterson (s/o Susanna and Turner Patterson) I wonder if Mary and Susannah were sisters. Henry Martin Brockman md Susannah Patterson and they had: Amelia Brockman md Thomas Campbell Mary Brockman md Theopolius Cannon Anne Brockman md Mr. Hammett Frances Brockman md James Peden Lucy Brockman md James Brockman (son of Major Brockman) Thomas Patterson Brockman md Mary Kilgore Elizabeth Brockman md JOhn Dawson Smith JOhn Collin, Sr married Ann Cook (d/o Thomas Cook) They had: Henry Collins John Collin, Jr Richard Collins Francis Collins Edward Collins b 1729 md Jane Jones Edward Collins b 1729 md Janes Jones (d/o James Jones and Katherine Armstrong) Edward did aug 1818 Orange Co., Va. They had James Collins b 1755 md Lucy Burton and nancy Herndon (d/0 Edward Herndon and Mary Gaines) Edward Collins, Jr md Ann Richard T. Collins md Sarah A. ? Mary Collins md John Landrum on 7 Feb 1794 Lewis D. Collins Elizabeth Collins md Richard Robertson on 23 Sept 1799 John Collins b 1781 d 1797 Jefferson Co., Tenn md Catherine James Collins b 1755 Orange Co., Va d 1823 Shelby Co, Ky md Lucy Burton. I show no children at this time. James 2nd marriage was to Nancy Herndon, and again I show no children at this time. Well, That is it for now. I will get more stuff together, and email more later. Sincerely, Lori

Dear fellow rooters, I have updated my online database. Today I added about 1400 Brambletts, Bramletts etc and their families. That brings the total number of names to 10,230. Please take a look and see if you find any matches. http://members.tripod.com/~CarolMiller Thanks, Carol Miller

Cousins. The 1920 Soundex for Arkansas has this family: Collins, Otis. white; 38 years old; birthplace: Arkansas living in Washington County Collins, Testie [that's what it looks like]; wife; age 40; birthplace: Missouri Collins, Carl, son, age 17; birthplace: Arkansas Collins, Nona, daughter, age 13; birthplace: Arkansas Roper, Luna, border, age 34; birthplace: Arkansas Can any of you PLEASE connect with them, or do any of you happen to have other data? Would love to share info!! Carol

My earliest known Collins ancester is Charles Collins, b. 2 Aug. 1801 in Virginia and d. 10 Jun 1861 in Greene Co., TN. He married Lydia Johnson, daughter of Joseph Johnson and Ann Stanfield 2 July 1829 in Greene Co., TN. He was a cabinet maker. The family was Methodist. Both Charles and Lydia died in 1861 from some sort of epidemic that went through Greene County. Most of their children went to Kansas later in life. The children of Charles and Lydia were: 1. Joseph A. Collins, b. 13 Apr 1830, Greene Co., TN, d. 4 Sept. 1907, Kansas City, KS - married Margaret DeBusk 2. Willialm Fleming Collins, b. 2 Aug 1831, Rheatown, Greene Co., TN, d. 14 Dec. 1914, Colfax, CA - married Nancy Amanda Shannon 3. Margaret A. Collins, b. 22 March 1834, Rheatown, Greene Co., TN, d 22 Oct. 1881 - m. David Joseph Rowles 4. Martha Eveline Collins, b. 1840 Greene Co., TN - m. ? Wilson 5. Louiza Caroline Collins, b. 13 Sept. 1841, Rheatown, Greene Co., TN; d. 19 Mar 1890, Hartford, Lyons, KS - m. John Y. Elliott 6. John B. Collins, b. 1845, TN 7. Dedrick David Collins, b. 23 Jun 1847, Rheatown, Greene Co., TN; d. 2 Feb. 1919, Kenton, Cimmeron, OK - m. Arlillian Tharp 8. Sarah L. Collins, b. 1850, Rheatown, Greene Co., TN - m. William John Scott 9. Laura A. Collins, b. 1853, Greene Co., TN Does anyone connect to these families? I would appreciate leads or any further information on the ancestry of Charles Collins, including where in VA he lived. I have further descendant information if anyone is interested. Thanks for your help. Patsy