Per find-a-grave (see info below) - she is buried in Fleming County KY (My ancestors were in Mason/Robertson/Fleming County KY- but I don't recognize this Elizabeth Collins.   From: Fran Best <simplythebest3@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Elizabeth W Collins 1900-1967 To: collins@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 11:31 PM Born where?? Died where?? this needed to be able to search Cheers Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robbintina Harrison" <robbintina@yahoo.com> To: <COLLINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:06 PM Subject: [COLLINS] Elizabeth W Collins 1900-1967 > Does anyone have any information on this Elizabeth W. Collins? > > Elizabeth W Collins > Birth: 1900 > Death: 1967 > Burial: County Cemetery > Flemingsburg > Fleming County > Kentucky, USA > Plot: Section E, Between 1st & 2nd Wagon Rds. > Created by:Jan Waddell > Record added: Jul 13, 2011 > Find A Grave Memorial# 73288430 >

Does anyone have any information on this Elizabeth W. Collins? Elizabeth W Collins Birth: 1900 Death: 1967 Burial: <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GSln=collins&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=19&GScnty=1023&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=73288430&CRid=484950&df=all&>Fleming County Cemetery Flemingsburg Fleming County Kentucky, USA Plot: Section E, Between 1st & 2nd Wagon Rds. Created by: <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=mr&MRid=47040883>Jan Waddell Record added: Jul 13, 2011 Find A Grave Memorial# 73288430

Does anyone have any information on the following Elizabeth Collins? Elizabeth Collins Birth: Oct. 18, 1816 Death: Jul. 7, 1902 Burial: <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GSln=collins&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=19&GScnty=1023&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=25939218&CRid=74870&df=all&>Log Union Cemetery Fleming County Kentucky, USA Created by: <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=mr&MRid=46953051>Brenda Goldy Record added: Apr 11, 2008 Find A Grave Memorial# 25939218

--- On Tue, 4/23/13, Robbintina Harrison <robbintina@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Robbintina Harrison <robbintina@yahoo.com> Subject: [COLLINS] Elizabeth W Collins 1900-1967 To: COLLINS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, April 23, 2013, 9:06 PM Does anyone have any information on this Elizabeth W. Collins? Elizabeth W Collins Birth: 1900 Death: 1967 Burial: <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GSln=collins&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=19&GScnty=1023&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=73288430&CRid=484950&df=all&>Fleming County Cemetery Flemingsburg Fleming County Kentucky, USA Plot: Section E, Between 1st & 2nd Wagon Rds. Created by: <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=mr&MRid=47040883>Jan Waddell Record added: Jul 13, 2011 Find A Grave Memorial# 73288430 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My GGrandfather Robert Collins (1831-1911) son of William & Jessica Turner came from Waterford in Ireland. Robert migrated to Australia Regards Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: <sanders922@comcast.net> To: <collins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS, PURCELL, O'BRIEN in Kilkee or the Loop Peninsula of Co. Clare. > > > Jo: > > Sorry I can't help you with your search. > > > > But can you tell me if the surname Collins is Irish > > or is it also from England and Scotland? > > > > I have my Collins line back to the 1600s in Virginia > > and had assumed they came from England. > > Alice > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Josiebanks@aol.com > To: collins@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 8:18:06 AM > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS, PURCELL, O'BRIEN in Kilkee or the Loop > Peninsula of Co. Clare. > > Hi list, > I now know for sure that my Gr-Grandfather, John COLLINS, b. 1819-20 > to Michael and Johanna PURCELL COLLINS had at least 6 cousins who were b. > in > Kilkee, Co. Clare. Their parents were Anthony & Mary COLLINS. Michael > and Anthony also had a sister, Honora COLLINS O'BRIEN, wife of Cornelius > from Kilkee. > > I do not have proof that John's father, Michael, lived in Kilkee but > feel he was possibly in one of the nearby villages such as Lisdeen, > Ballyonan, Doughnaboy, Kilfeargh, Furoor, Querin or Carrigaholt-anywhere > in Kilrush > or Moyarta Parish. > > I base this on the fact that he and his cousins, Hugh, Anthony & John > lived together in the 1850s in St. Louis, MO and his widow, Eliza > FITZPATRICK COLLINS, dau of Patrick & Mary McNAMARA COLLINS went with his > cousins to > Davenport, Scott Co., IA. after John's death in 1867. > > I would like to hear from anyone with connections to these families. > There is also a connection to the surname MAGNER. Several served as > marriage witness and Baptismal sponsors. > Thanks for your time, Jo > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm not sure Thomas is the immigrant ancestor. I have found more than one Thomas listed in the book series Cavaliers and Pioneers.  I have also found a couple Thomas children, one of which was a bound boy.  I do think however our line is one of the adult Thomas.  I just returned from a week in Salt Lake City where I found a will of a Thomas with a James as executor.  However it was maybe twenty years past the time we have mention of  the older James estate.  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Charles A. Stephens" <cas25@cableone.net> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 5:29:00 PM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. In my declining mind there are two significant elements in the "maidstone" theory. The first is that there was the death and dispersal of an estate about 1736 in Amelia County which most l ikely was the estate of the James Collins alledged son of the James Collins of Carolne County. I think this is significant. You have shown the route to Thomas Collins which seems more  logical to me, and, the cap is that nobody can document the aspect of the "Plain Joan" ever dropping passengers into Virginia. Dropping them into  New England can be documented. As far back as into the 1800's. The land time in Virginia is stated often but it is the embarkation time from England. In those days, as I understand, it was easy to get permission to go to Virginia,but difficult to get permission to go to New England---but the ship can leave with destination of Virginia and then find itself unable to make landfall in Virginia, or was never intended to in the beginning. It's a muddle to me. I like Thomas Collins as the immigrant. Charles -----Original Message----- From: collins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:collins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sanders922@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 6:11 PM To: Porter; collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. Some from my Collins line has latched onto the Maidstone line with more wishful thinking than any proof. but I think it is wrong, just as linking it to the two Williams that came on the same boat to  early Isle of Wight, Virginia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Porter" <jubilee@etex.net> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 2:50:13 PM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. In regards to Reuben Collins and wife Monica Duren and the Collins Bible. A lot of research on this family was done by James Oren Collins of Lytle,  TX. James rescued the Collins Bible and he and my cousin once removed (CW Collins) both did DNA tests and have matches to the well known Maidstone Collins line,  which originates in Maidstone,  Kent,  England in 1569. Once you get to back to Reuben and the will of his father William Collins,  you have a ton of information on the web for this Collins line back to England although the date details are at odds for one researcher to another. To this extent,  some today try to take mismatched records for a similar name and tie it to Reuben to prove Scotch or Irish connections. There are way too many DNA connections for true parallel lines to drift far from the connection to Kent,  England,  then King and Queen Co,  Va then Kershaw Co SC. The Maidstone line is very narrow so be careful when following suggestions that it is a broad riv!  er of names,  families and locations all tied to that Bible. -------- Original message -------- From: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> Date: 04/04/2013  12:47 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc.    Our Timothy Collins b1754 came from London England and settled first in MD then PA 1800. DG ________________________________ From: "GLSGAB@aol.com" <GLSGAB@aol.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, April 4, 2013 9:27:46 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. >From the Family Bible; From an old letter in the original Reuben  Collins Bible: "Thomas L. Collins had red hair and his wife Winefred was very dark  and Dutch and spake very broken English. I can remember my father telling me  that they (Walters Family) first settled in York, Pennsylvania and from there to Spartanburg County, SC but my father says they settled first in the southern  part of NC (Perhaps Anson Co.)" The middle name of Thomas was Duren.  He was  nicknamed "LeNove", in French "the last" (he was the last child of Reuben  Collins & Monica Duren). I have that the Duren's who intermarried with  the Collins were French Huguenots. Living in England before immigrating to the  Colonies.   Since the Family Bible has written in it Thomas Collins had  red hair, I think that is a good indication he was of Irish (or Scotch) descent.  It is also on his war records. 6' 1, Red Hair, Blue  eyes. Grace S. Green In a message dated 4/4/2013 9:02:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,   rcoll@bellsouth.net writes: The  Collins surname is a very diverse group.  In my searching I have   found that the surname is as often English or Scotch as it is Irish.   I have even found a French Collins (from Normandy area of  France). Roger Collins ================= On 04/04/2013 11:30  AM, sanders922@comcast.net wrote: > > Jo: > > Sorry I  can't help you with your search. > > > > But can you  tell me if the surname Collins is Irish > > or is it also from  England and Scotland? > > > > I have my Collins line  back to the 1600s in Virginia > > and had assumed they came from  England. > >  Alice > > ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to   COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in   the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some from my Collins line has latched onto the Maidstone line with more wishful thinking than any proof. but I think it is wrong, just as linking it to the two Williams that came on the same boat to  early Isle of Wight, Virginia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Porter" <jubilee@etex.net> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 2:50:13 PM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. In regards to Reuben Collins and wife Monica Duren and the Collins Bible. A lot of research on this family was done by James Oren Collins of Lytle,  TX. James rescued the Collins Bible and he and my cousin once removed (CW Collins) both did DNA tests and have matches to the well known Maidstone Collins line,  which originates in Maidstone,  Kent,  England in 1569. Once you get to back to Reuben and the will of his father William Collins,  you have a ton of information on the web for this Collins line back to England although the date details are at odds for one researcher to another. To this extent,  some today try to take mismatched records for a similar name and tie it to Reuben to prove Scotch or Irish connections. There are way too many DNA connections for true parallel lines to drift far from the connection to Kent,  England,  then King and Queen Co,  Va then Kershaw Co SC. The Maidstone line is very narrow so be careful when following suggestions that it is a broad river of names,  families and locations all tied to that Bible. -------- Original message -------- From: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> Date: 04/04/2013  12:47 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc.   Our Timothy Collins b1754 came from London England and settled first in MD then PA 1800. DG ________________________________ From: "GLSGAB@aol.com" <GLSGAB@aol.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, April 4, 2013 9:27:46 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. >From the Family Bible; From an old letter in the original Reuben  Collins Bible: "Thomas L. Collins had red hair and his wife Winefred was very dark  and Dutch and spake very broken English. I can remember my father telling me  that they (Walters Family) first settled in York, Pennsylvania and from there to Spartanburg County, SC but my father says they settled first in the southern  part of NC (Perhaps Anson Co.)" The middle name of Thomas was Duren.  He was  nicknamed "LeNove", in French "the last" (he was the last child of Reuben  Collins & Monica Duren). I have that the Duren's who intermarried with  the Collins were French Huguenots. Living in England before immigrating to the  Colonies.  Since the Family Bible has written in it Thomas Collins had  red hair, I think that is a good indication he was of Irish (or Scotch) descent.  It is also on his war records. 6' 1, Red Hair, Blue  eyes. Grace S. Green In a message dated 4/4/2013 9:02:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  rcoll@bellsouth.net writes: The  Collins surname is a very diverse group.  In my searching I have  found that the surname is as often English or Scotch as it is Irish.   I have even found a French Collins (from Normandy area of  France). Roger Collins ================= On 04/04/2013 11:30  AM, sanders922@comcast.net wrote: > > Jo: > > Sorry I  can't help you with your search. > > > > But can you  tell me if the surname Collins is Irish > > or is it also from  England and Scotland? > > > > I have my Collins line  back to the 1600s in Virginia > > and had assumed they came from  England. > >  Alice > > ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in  the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We had/have the same muddle!! An ancestor in the 1870s even went to Baltimore to see if he could find a record of the ship. They formed an Association and sold $5 script to send a lawyer to London to claim "the money". The ship sank bringing him back, etc, etc, etc. It's fun to read their letters back and forth. I did find a picture of the church where my 4th GGrandfather was baptized in London on the photo website http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1164278 which one can put in any geographic location in the UK and hopefully something good will come up. One begins to wonder what is true and what is wishful genealogy thinking. I tend to believe the "old" guys but they could be putting things together to "fit", too. (And collect their fee!!) What on earth did they do without computers!! DG ________________________________ From: Dr. Charles A. Stephens <cas25@cableone.net> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, April 4, 2013 5:31:04 PM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. In my declining mind there are two significant elements in the "maidstone" theory. The first is that there was the death and dispersal of an estate about 1736 in Amelia County which most l ikely was the estate of the James Collins alledged son of the James Collins of Carolne County. I think this is significant. You have shown the route to Thomas Collins which seems more logical to me, and, the cap is that nobody can document the aspect of the "Plain Joan" ever dropping passengers into Virginia. Dropping them into New England can be documented. As far back as into the 1800's. The land time in Virginia is stated often but it is the embarkation time from England. In those days, as I understand, it was easy to get permission to go to Virginia,but difficult to get permission to go to New England---but the ship can leave with destination of Virginia and then find itself unable to make landfall in Virginia, or was never intended to in the beginning. It's a muddle to me. I like Thomas Collins as the immigrant. Charles -----Original Message----- From: collins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:collins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sanders922@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 6:11 PM To: Porter; collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. Some from my Collins line has latched onto the Maidstone line with more wishful thinking than any proof. but I think it is wrong, just as linking it to the two Williams that came on the same boat to early Isle of Wight, Virginia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Porter" <jubilee@etex.net> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 2:50:13 PM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. In regards to Reuben Collins and wife Monica Duren and the Collins Bible. A lot of research on this family was done by James Oren Collins of Lytle, TX. James rescued the Collins Bible and he and my cousin once removed (CW Collins) both did DNA tests and have matches to the well known Maidstone Collins line, which originates in Maidstone, Kent, England in 1569. Once you get to back to Reuben and the will of his father William Collins, you have a ton of information on the web for this Collins line back to England although the date details are at odds for one researcher to another. To this extent, some today try to take mismatched records for a similar name and tie it to Reuben to prove Scotch or Irish connections. There are way too many DNA connections for true parallel lines to drift far from the connection to Kent, England, then King and Queen Co, Va then Kershaw Co SC. The Maidstone line is very narrow so be careful when following suggestions that it is a broad riv! er of names, families and locations all tied to that Bible. -------- Original message -------- From: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> Date: 04/04/2013 12:47 PM (GMT-06:00) To: collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. Our Timothy Collins b1754 came from London England and settled first in MD then PA 1800. DG ________________________________ From: "GLSGAB@aol.com" <GLSGAB@aol.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, April 4, 2013 9:27:46 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. >From the Family Bible; From an old letter in the original Reuben Collins Bible: "Thomas L. Collins had red hair and his wife Winefred was very dark and Dutch and spake very broken English. I can remember my father telling me that they (Walters Family) first settled in York, Pennsylvania and from there to Spartanburg County, SC but my father says they settled first in the southern part of NC (Perhaps Anson Co.)" The middle name of Thomas was Duren. He was nicknamed "LeNove", in French "the last" (he was the last child of Reuben Collins & Monica Duren). I have that the Duren's who intermarried with the Collins were French Huguenots. Living in England before immigrating to the Colonies. Since the Family Bible has written in it Thomas Collins had red hair, I think that is a good indication he was of Irish (or Scotch) descent. It is also on his war records. 6' 1, Red Hair, Blue eyes. Grace S. Green In a message dated 4/4/2013 9:02:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rcoll@bellsouth.net writes: The Collins surname is a very diverse group. In my searching I have found that the surname is as often English or Scotch as it is Irish. I have even found a French Collins (from Normandy area of France). Roger Collins ================= On 04/04/2013 11:30 AM, sanders922@comcast.net wrote: > > Jo: > > Sorry I can't help you with your search. > > > > But can you tell me if the surname Collins is Irish > > or is it also from England and Scotland? > > > > I have my Collins line back to the 1600s in Virginia > > and had assumed they came from England. > > Alice > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In my declining mind there are two significant elements in the "maidstone" theory. The first is that there was the death and dispersal of an estate about 1736 in Amelia County which most l ikely was the estate of the James Collins alledged son of the James Collins of Carolne County. I think this is significant. You have shown the route to Thomas Collins which seems more logical to me, and, the cap is that nobody can document the aspect of the "Plain Joan" ever dropping passengers into Virginia. Dropping them into New England can be documented. As far back as into the 1800's. The land time in Virginia is stated often but it is the embarkation time from England. In those days, as I understand, it was easy to get permission to go to Virginia,but difficult to get permission to go to New England---but the ship can leave with destination of Virginia and then find itself unable to make landfall in Virginia, or was never intended to in the beginning. It's a muddle to me. I like Thomas Collins as the immigrant. Charles -----Original Message----- From: collins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:collins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sanders922@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 6:11 PM To: Porter; collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. Some from my Collins line has latched onto the Maidstone line with more wishful thinking than any proof. but I think it is wrong, just as linking it to the two Williams that came on the same boat to early Isle of Wight, Virginia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Porter" <jubilee@etex.net> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 2:50:13 PM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. In regards to Reuben Collins and wife Monica Duren and the Collins Bible. A lot of research on this family was done by James Oren Collins of Lytle, TX. James rescued the Collins Bible and he and my cousin once removed (CW Collins) both did DNA tests and have matches to the well known Maidstone Collins line, which originates in Maidstone, Kent, England in 1569. Once you get to back to Reuben and the will of his father William Collins, you have a ton of information on the web for this Collins line back to England although the date details are at odds for one researcher to another. To this extent, some today try to take mismatched records for a similar name and tie it to Reuben to prove Scotch or Irish connections. There are way too many DNA connections for true parallel lines to drift far from the connection to Kent, England, then King and Queen Co, Va then Kershaw Co SC. The Maidstone line is very narrow so be careful when following suggestions that it is a broad riv! er of names, families and locations all tied to that Bible. -------- Original message -------- From: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> Date: 04/04/2013 12:47 PM (GMT-06:00) To: collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. Our Timothy Collins b1754 came from London England and settled first in MD then PA 1800. DG ________________________________ From: "GLSGAB@aol.com" <GLSGAB@aol.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, April 4, 2013 9:27:46 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. >From the Family Bible; From an old letter in the original Reuben Collins Bible: "Thomas L. Collins had red hair and his wife Winefred was very dark and Dutch and spake very broken English. I can remember my father telling me that they (Walters Family) first settled in York, Pennsylvania and from there to Spartanburg County, SC but my father says they settled first in the southern part of NC (Perhaps Anson Co.)" The middle name of Thomas was Duren. He was nicknamed "LeNove", in French "the last" (he was the last child of Reuben Collins & Monica Duren). I have that the Duren's who intermarried with the Collins were French Huguenots. Living in England before immigrating to the Colonies. Since the Family Bible has written in it Thomas Collins had red hair, I think that is a good indication he was of Irish (or Scotch) descent. It is also on his war records. 6' 1, Red Hair, Blue eyes. Grace S. Green In a message dated 4/4/2013 9:02:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rcoll@bellsouth.net writes: The Collins surname is a very diverse group. In my searching I have found that the surname is as often English or Scotch as it is Irish. I have even found a French Collins (from Normandy area of France). Roger Collins ================= On 04/04/2013 11:30 AM, sanders922@comcast.net wrote: > > Jo: > > Sorry I can't help you with your search. > > > > But can you tell me if the surname Collins is Irish > > or is it also from England and Scotland? > > > > I have my Collins line back to the 1600s in Virginia > > and had assumed they came from England. > > Alice > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In regards to Reuben Collins and wife Monica Duren and the Collins Bible. A lot of research on this family was done by James Oren Collins of Lytle,  TX. James rescued the Collins Bible and he and my cousin once removed (CW Collins) both did DNA tests and have matches to the well known Maidstone Collins line,  which originates in Maidstone,  Kent,  England in 1569. Once you get to back to Reuben and the will of his father William Collins,  you have a ton of information on the web for this Collins line back to England although the date details are at odds for one researcher to another. To this extent,  some today try to take mismatched records for a similar name and tie it to Reuben to prove Scotch or Irish connections. There are way too many DNA connections for true parallel lines to drift far from the connection to Kent,  England,  then King and Queen Co,  Va then Kershaw Co SC. The Maidstone line is very narrow so be careful when following suggestions that it is a broad river of names,  families and locations all tied to that Bible. -------- Original message -------- From: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> Date: 04/04/2013 12:47 PM (GMT-06:00) To: collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. Our Timothy Collins b1754 came from London England and settled first in MD then PA 1800. DG ________________________________ From: "GLSGAB@aol.com" <GLSGAB@aol.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, April 4, 2013 9:27:46 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. >From the Family Bible; From an old letter in the original Reuben  Collins Bible: "Thomas L. Collins had red hair and his wife Winefred was very dark  and Dutch and spake very broken English. I can remember my father telling me  that they (Walters Family) first settled in York, Pennsylvania and from there to Spartanburg County, SC but my father says they settled first in the southern  part of NC (Perhaps Anson Co.)" The middle name of Thomas was Duren.  He was  nicknamed "LeNove", in French "the last" (he was the last child of Reuben  Collins & Monica Duren). I have that the Duren's who intermarried with  the Collins were French Huguenots. Living in England before immigrating to the  Colonies.  Since the Family Bible has written in it Thomas Collins had  red hair, I think that is a good indication he was of Irish (or Scotch) descent.  It is also on his war records. 6' 1, Red Hair, Blue  eyes. Grace S. Green In a message dated 4/4/2013 9:02:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  rcoll@bellsouth.net writes: The  Collins surname is a very diverse group.  In my searching I have  found that the surname is as often English or Scotch as it is Irish.   I have even found a French Collins (from Normandy area of  France). Roger Collins ================= On 04/04/2013 11:30  AM, sanders922@comcast.net wrote: > > Jo: > > Sorry I  can't help you with your search. > > > > But can you  tell me if the surname Collins is Irish > > or is it also from  England and Scotland? > > > > I have my Collins line  back to the 1600s in Virginia > > and had assumed they came from  England. > >  Alice > > ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in  the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jo: Sorry I can't help you with your search. But can you tell me if the surname Collins is Irish or is it also from England and Scotland? I have my Collins line back to the 1600s in Virginia and had assumed they came from England. Alice ----- Original Message ----- From: Josiebanks@aol.com To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 8:18:06 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS, PURCELL,        O'BRIEN  in Kilkee or the Loop Peninsula of Co. Clare. Hi list,     I now know for sure that my Gr-Grandfather, John  COLLINS, b. 1819-20 to Michael and Johanna PURCELL COLLINS had at  least 6 cousins who were b. in Kilkee, Co. Clare.  Their parents were  Anthony & Mary COLLINS.   Michael and Anthony also had a sister,  Honora COLLINS O'BRIEN, wife of Cornelius from Kilkee.       I do not have proof that John's father,  Michael, lived in Kilkee but feel he was possibly in one of the  nearby villages such as Lisdeen, Ballyonan, Doughnaboy, Kilfeargh, Furoor,  Querin or Carrigaholt-anywhere in Kilrush or Moyarta Parish.      I base this on the fact that he and his cousins, Hugh, Anthony  & John lived together in the 1850s in St. Louis, MO and his widow,  Eliza FITZPATRICK COLLINS, dau of Patrick & Mary McNAMARA COLLINS went with  his cousins to Davenport, Scott Co., IA. after John's death in 1867.       I would like to hear from anyone with connections  to these families.   There is also a connection to the surname MAGNER.   Several served as marriage witness and Baptismal sponsors. Thanks for your time,  Jo ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Mitchell Collins came from Northern Ireland at age 17 in Oct 1859. He landed in NY and then worked in the Pittsburg oil fields. From there he went to Clinton, Clinton Co. IA, where he married Anna Gravenor in 1871. By 1880, he moved to a little village of Waltham, in North Tama Co. IA, in the Center of Iowa, where other Irish families settled that had come from Co. Antrim. I am assuming Mitchell knew some one in Waltham, and he most probably is form Antrim as well. These are the other families: John wilson, b. 1836 Co Antrim Matilda Patterson b. 1836, Ballyconelly, Co Antrim James Williamson b. 1837, Co Antrim Esther Patterson b. 1846, Ballyconelly, Co Antrim Bonnie Grimmius

>From the Family Bible; From an old letter in the original Reuben Collins Bible: "Thomas L. Collins had red hair and his wife Winefred was very dark and Dutch and spake very broken English. I can remember my father telling me that they (Walters Family) first settled in York, Pennsylvania and from there to Spartanburg County, SC but my father says they settled first in the southern part of NC (Perhaps Anson Co.)" The middle name of Thomas was Duren. He was nicknamed "LeNove", in French "the last" (he was the last child of Reuben Collins & Monica Duren). I have that the Duren's who intermarried with the Collins were French Huguenots. Living in England before immigrating to the Colonies. Since the Family Bible has written in it Thomas Collins had red hair, I think that is a good indication he was of Irish (or Scotch) descent. It is also on his war records. 6' 1, Red Hair, Blue eyes. Grace S. Green In a message dated 4/4/2013 9:02:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rcoll@bellsouth.net writes: The Collins surname is a very diverse group. In my searching I have found that the surname is as often English or Scotch as it is Irish. I have even found a French Collins (from Normandy area of France). Roger Collins ================= On 04/04/2013 11:30 AM, sanders922@comcast.net wrote: > > Jo: > > Sorry I can't help you with your search. > > > > But can you tell me if the surname Collins is Irish > > or is it also from England and Scotland? > > > > I have my Collins line back to the 1600s in Virginia > > and had assumed they came from England. > > Alice > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Collins surname is a very diverse group. In my searching I have found that the surname is as often English or Scotch as it is Irish. I have even found a French Collins (from Normandy area of France). Roger Collins ================= On 04/04/2013 11:30 AM, sanders922@comcast.net wrote: > > Jo: > > Sorry I can't help you with your search. > > > > But can you tell me if the surname Collins is Irish > > or is it also from England and Scotland? > > > > I have my Collins line back to the 1600s in Virginia > > and had assumed they came from England. > > Alice > >

Hi list, I now know for sure that my Gr-Grandfather, John COLLINS, b. 1819-20 to Michael and Johanna PURCELL COLLINS had at least 6 cousins who were b. in Kilkee, Co. Clare. Their parents were Anthony & Mary COLLINS. Michael and Anthony also had a sister, Honora COLLINS O'BRIEN, wife of Cornelius from Kilkee. I do not have proof that John's father, Michael, lived in Kilkee but feel he was possibly in one of the nearby villages such as Lisdeen, Ballyonan, Doughnaboy, Kilfeargh, Furoor, Querin or Carrigaholt-anywhere in Kilrush or Moyarta Parish. I base this on the fact that he and his cousins, Hugh, Anthony & John lived together in the 1850s in St. Louis, MO and his widow, Eliza FITZPATRICK COLLINS, dau of Patrick & Mary McNAMARA COLLINS went with his cousins to Davenport, Scott Co., IA. after John's death in 1867. I would like to hear from anyone with connections to these families. There is also a connection to the surname MAGNER. Several served as marriage witness and Baptismal sponsors. Thanks for your time, Jo

Our Timothy Collins b1754 came from London England and settled first in MD then PA 1800. DG ________________________________ From: "GLSGAB@aol.com" <GLSGAB@aol.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, April 4, 2013 9:27:46 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS surname Irish, Scotch, English, etc. >From the Family Bible; From an old letter in the original Reuben Collins Bible: "Thomas L. Collins had red hair and his wife Winefred was very dark and Dutch and spake very broken English. I can remember my father telling me that they (Walters Family) first settled in York, Pennsylvania and from there to Spartanburg County, SC but my father says they settled first in the southern part of NC (Perhaps Anson Co.)" The middle name of Thomas was Duren. He was nicknamed "LeNove", in French "the last" (he was the last child of Reuben Collins & Monica Duren). I have that the Duren's who intermarried with the Collins were French Huguenots. Living in England before immigrating to the Colonies. Since the Family Bible has written in it Thomas Collins had red hair, I think that is a good indication he was of Irish (or Scotch) descent. It is also on his war records. 6' 1, Red Hair, Blue eyes. Grace S. Green In a message dated 4/4/2013 9:02:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rcoll@bellsouth.net writes: The Collins surname is a very diverse group. In my searching I have found that the surname is as often English or Scotch as it is Irish. I have even found a French Collins (from Normandy area of France). Roger Collins ================= On 04/04/2013 11:30 AM, sanders922@comcast.net wrote: > > Jo: > > Sorry I can't help you with your search. > > > > But can you tell me if the surname Collins is Irish > > or is it also from England and Scotland? > > > > I have my Collins line back to the 1600s in Virginia > > and had assumed they came from England. > > Alice > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Census information: 1900 United States Federal Census Home in 1900: Hartford, Ohio, Kentucky 309/314 John Collins, head, b, m, May 1830, 70, married 21 yrs, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, farmer Sue Collins, wife, b, f, Apr 1860, 40, married 21 yrs, 1 child, 1 living, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky Remus D Newton, son-in-law, b, m, Sep 1858, 41, married 2 yrs, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, teacher Lizzie D Newton, daughter, b, f, Nov 1880, 19, married 2 yrs, 1 child, 1 living, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky Winita Newton, granddaughter, b, f, Mar 1899, 1, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky 310/315 Dan Hines, head, b, m, Mar 1855, 45, married 25 yrs, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, day laborer Ann Hines, wife, b, f, May 1845, 55, married 25 yrs, 6 children, 2 living, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky Henry Collins, stepson, b, m, Jun 1859, 40, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, barber Frank Collins, stepson, b, m, May 1870, 30, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, day laborer Arin Collins, stepson, b, m, May 1892, 8, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky Jessie Collins, stepson, b, m, Jan 1894, 6, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Hartford, Ohio, Kentucky; Roll: 546; Page: 17A; Enumeration District: 0100 1910 United States Federal Census Home in 1910: Hartford, Ohio, Kentucky 141/151 Ann Collins, head, f, b, 69, married (1st) 25 yrs, 3 children, 2 living, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, Laundress Henry Collins, son, m, b, 40, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, laborer, livery stable Frank Collins, son, m, mu, 37, married 1 yr, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, Deliveryman, Butcher shop Stella Collins, daughter-in-law, f, mu, married 1 yr, 0 children, b Tenn, father b Tenn, mother b Tenn Moses Hines, grandson, m, mu, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, laborer, odd jobs 142/152 Jack Collins, head, m, b, 76, married (2nd) 25 yrs, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, laborer, odd jobs Sue Collins, wife, f, mu, 48, married (2nd) 25 yrs, 1 child, 1 living, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky, Laundress Juanita Newton, granddaughter, f, mu, 11, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky Felicia Newton, granddaughter, f, mu, 9, single, b Ky, father b Ky, mother b Ky Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Hartford, Ohio, Kentucky; Roll: T624_498; Page: 7A; Enumeration District: 0115 Cheers, Michael -----Original Message----- From: sanders922@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 8:14 PM To: collins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Jack Collins and Ann "Susie" Spears Dear Annie I have Ancestry and am having a problem finding your Jack Collins in earlier census records. Could Jack be a nick name? My grandfather was known as Jack all his life but was christened John Henry. I did find the census you mentioned below and those two young Newton girls were listed as grandchildren of Jack and Sue. Alice Sanders sanders922@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: lupielu3@aol.com To: COLLINS@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 8:58:23 AM Subject: [COLLINS] Jack Collins and Ann "Susie" Spears Looking for info on Jack Collins b abt 1834 according to the 1910 Census in Ohio, KY with his wife Sue Collins, age 48. This means Sue was b abt 1862. In this census record there is a Juanita Newton 11 and Felicia Newton 9 living with them. Won't be able to renew my ancestry subscription until late April so I am unable to look at this record. May have to make a trip to the library to view it. They had 2 children that I know about. Mary Collins 1905-1987 who married Elbert Ratliff (who was really Elbert Collins, s/o my grandfather, Charles Lewis Collins (1880-1954) and Violet Ratliff (d/o Wm Riley Ratliff and Judia Dale). Elbert was raised as a Ratliff by Wm Riley & Judia. It wasn't until 1951-1953 that Elbert found out he was a Collins and met Charley Collins, his father (my grandfather). Mary had a brother known as Red Collins 1914-1989. Just trying to help myself and someone else gather info so we can try to break down another barrier. It is believed that Mary's Collins family and Elbert's Collins family are related but so far, no proof. Annie Collins Storland lupielu3@aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Annie I have Ancestry and am having a problem finding your Jack Collins in earlier census records.  Could Jack be a nick name?  My grandfather was known as Jack all his life but was christened John Henry.  I did find the census you mentioned below and those two young Newton girls were listed as grandchildren of Jack and Sue. Alice Sanders sanders922@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: lupielu3@aol.com To: COLLINS@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 8:58:23 AM Subject: [COLLINS] Jack Collins and Ann "Susie" Spears Looking for info on Jack Collins b abt 1834 according to the 1910 Census in Ohio, KY with his wife Sue Collins, age 48.  This means Sue was b abt 1862.  In this census record there is a Juanita Newton 11 and Felicia Newton 9 living with them.  Won't be able to renew my ancestry subscription until late April so I am unable to look at this record.  May have to make a trip to the library to view it.   They had 2 children that I know about.  Mary Collins 1905-1987 who married Elbert Ratliff (who was really Elbert Collins, s/o my grandfather, Charles Lewis Collins (1880-1954) and Violet Ratliff (d/o Wm Riley Ratliff and Judia Dale). Elbert was raised as a Ratliff by Wm Riley & Judia.  It wasn't until 1951-1953 that Elbert found out he was a Collins and met Charley Collins, his father (my grandfather). Mary had a brother known as Red Collins 1914-1989. Just trying to help myself and someone else gather info so we can try to break down another barrier.  It is believed that Mary's Collins family and Elbert's Collins family are related but so far, no proof. Annie Collins Storland lupielu3@aol.com   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for info on Jack Collins b abt 1834 according to the 1910 Census in Ohio, KY with his wife Sue Collins, age 48. This means Sue was b abt 1862. In this census record there is a Juanita Newton 11 and Felicia Newton 9 living with them. Won't be able to renew my ancestry subscription until late April so I am unable to look at this record. May have to make a trip to the library to view it. They had 2 children that I know about. Mary Collins 1905-1987 who married Elbert Ratliff (who was really Elbert Collins, s/o my grandfather, Charles Lewis Collins (1880-1954) and Violet Ratliff (d/o Wm Riley Ratliff and Judia Dale). Elbert was raised as a Ratliff by Wm Riley & Judia. It wasn't until 1951-1953 that Elbert found out he was a Collins and met Charley Collins, his father (my grandfather). Mary had a brother known as Red Collins 1914-1989. Just trying to help myself and someone else gather info so we can try to break down another barrier. It is believed that Mary's Collins family and Elbert's Collins family are related but so far, no proof. Annie Collins Storland lupielu3@aol.com

I need information for submitting family trees. Rose Collins Andrew