Phil, Thank you but my Collins were from the UK to PA and points west. I'm in California. Another poster was looking for the Native American connection and then someone asked for Twiss info. We're getting a little far afield! : ) Thanks tho! Doris ________________________________ From: PHILIP COLLINS <grahop@verizon.net> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 9:53:56 AM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New Hampshire Doris, where are you located? Are you near a National Archive? Or, for about $30 a year, you can join the Godfrey Library in CT. You get a library number, and can access all their archives anytime. They have early American Indians sites, etc. Phil Collins, in Western Massachusetts, U.S.A. --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > From: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New Hampshire > To: collins@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 12:47 PM > Have you tried "googling" Twiss > genealogy? Or Mass genealogy? > > http://distantcousin.com/SurnameResources/Surname.asp?Surname=Twiss > http://www.linkpendium.com/genealogy/USA/sur/surc-T/surc-Twi/sur-Twiss/ > http://www.surnameweb.org/Twiss/surnames.htm > http://genforum.genealogy.com/twiss/ > http://books.google.com/ > etc > Then there are pay sites like Ancestry. > Happy hunting! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "downmemorylane@irelandmail.com" > <downmemorylane@irelandmail.com> > To: collins@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 8:50:53 PM > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and > New Hampshire > > Ms. Greaves, > > If you can help me by suggesting where I may be able to go > to continue on researching my TWISS family it would be > greatly appreciated. > > This is from my cousin: > > ``I have researched the Collin in that area in 1800,s > and was unable to find one that I thought could be Lyman,s > father. His father probably would have been born in the > early 1800's and in Ma.`` > > >From a COLLINS researcher: > > > ``Have you ever checked any of the Native American > resources? Dawes Rolls, > Miller roles, and Cherokee by Blood are two that I have > checked for my > Collins... The surname Collins is a 'common Native American > surname'. > > My Collins are elusive as well. My family has been > doing genealogy since > the 1940's. No one has been able to break the > Collins/Price brickwall. > > George Wiley Collins b around 1812, somewhere in South > Carolina. Has a > female relative named Elizabeth Collins, b about 1799, > somewhere in SC. > George married Sedition Price also born somewhere in > SC. They moved to GA > and were living in Murray Co during the 1850 census and in > Bartow Co > during the 1860 census. There is a Price family next door, > but that line > of research is a dead end as well. The 1870 census shows > George living > with his second wife. We think Sedition died about > 1864, but we do not > know where she is buried, no death certificate, etc. > Some researchers say > the boys in this line were killed during the war, others > say they moved to > Miller Co. AK (I think)``. > > Thank you very much. > > Jessica > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> > To: collins@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 8:50 am > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and > New Hampshire > > > Do you have any dates? Are they early ones? There are very > good records online > that start very early in our history. > > > > ________________________________ > From: "downmemorylane@irelandmail.com" > <downmemorylane@irelandmail.com> > To: collins@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 1:51:55 AM > Subject: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New > Hampshire > > > > > Hello, > > This is my first posting to this List and was wondering, > please, if SKS would > help me. > > My Lyman TWISS was b. in Massachusetts and his wife COLLINS > (surname and no > first name) was b. in N. H. This info. came from > census records but do not know > which one, unfortunately. This info. was given to me > via another TWISS > researcher. > > I would appreciate any and all info. or suggestions on the > above. > > Thank you very much. > > Jessica > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of > the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of > the message > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Doris, where are you located? Are you near a National Archive? Or, for about $30 a year, you can join the Godfrey Library in CT. You get a library number, and can access all their archives anytime. They have early American Indians sites, etc.   Phil Collins, in Western Massachusetts, U.S.A. --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > From: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New Hampshire > To: collins@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 12:47 PM > Have you tried "googling" Twiss > genealogy? Or Mass genealogy? > > http://distantcousin.com/SurnameResources/Surname.asp?Surname=Twiss > http://www.linkpendium.com/genealogy/USA/sur/surc-T/surc-Twi/sur-Twiss/ > http://www.surnameweb.org/Twiss/surnames.htm > http://genforum.genealogy.com/twiss/ > http://books.google.com/ > etc > Then there are pay sites like Ancestry. > Happy hunting! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "downmemorylane@irelandmail.com" > <downmemorylane@irelandmail.com> > To: collins@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 8:50:53 PM > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and > New Hampshire > > Ms.  Greaves, > > If you can help me by suggesting where I may be able to go > to continue on researching my TWISS family it would be > greatly appreciated. > > This is from my cousin: > > ``I have researched the  Collin in that area in 1800,s > and was unable to find one that I thought could be Lyman,s > father. His father probably would have been born in the > early 1800's and in Ma.`` > > >From a COLLINS researcher: > > > ``Have you ever checked any of the Native American > resources?  Dawes Rolls, > Miller roles, and Cherokee by Blood are two that I have > checked for my > Collins... The surname Collins is a 'common Native American > surname'. > > My Collins are elusive as well.  My family has been > doing genealogy since > the 1940's.  No one has been able to break the > Collins/Price brickwall. > > George Wiley Collins b around 1812, somewhere in South > Carolina.  Has a > female relative named Elizabeth Collins, b about 1799, > somewhere in SC. > George married Sedition Price also born somewhere in > SC.  They moved to GA > and were living in Murray Co during the 1850 census and in > Bartow Co > during the 1860 census. There is a Price family next door, > but that line > of research is a dead end as well. The 1870 census shows > George living > with his second wife.  We think Sedition died about > 1864, but we do not > know where she is buried, no death certificate, etc.  > Some researchers say > the boys in this line were killed during the war, others > say they moved to > Miller Co. AK (I think)``. > > Thank you very much. > > Jessica > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> > To: collins@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 8:50 am > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and > New Hampshire > > > Do you have any dates? Are they early ones? There are very > good records online > that start very early in our history. > > > > ________________________________ > From: "downmemorylane@irelandmail.com" > <downmemorylane@irelandmail.com> > To: collins@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 1:51:55 AM > Subject: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New > Hampshire > > > > > Hello, > > This is my first posting to this List and was wondering, > please, if SKS would > help me. > > My Lyman TWISS was b. in Massachusetts and his wife COLLINS > (surname and no > first name) was b. in N. H.  This info. came from > census records but do not know > which one, unfortunately.  This info. was given to me > via another TWISS > researcher. > > I would appreciate any and all info. or suggestions on the > above. > > Thank you very much. > > Jessica > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of > the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of > the message > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Have you tried "googling" Twiss genealogy? Or Mass genealogy? http://distantcousin.com/SurnameResources/Surname.asp?Surname=Twiss http://www.linkpendium.com/genealogy/USA/sur/surc-T/surc-Twi/sur-Twiss/ http://www.surnameweb.org/Twiss/surnames.htm http://genforum.genealogy.com/twiss/ http://books.google.com/ etc Then there are pay sites like Ancestry. Happy hunting! ________________________________ From: "downmemorylane@irelandmail.com" <downmemorylane@irelandmail.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 8:50:53 PM Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New Hampshire Ms. Greaves, If you can help me by suggesting where I may be able to go to continue on researching my TWISS family it would be greatly appreciated. This is from my cousin: ``I have researched the Collin in that area in 1800,s and was unable to find one that I thought could be Lyman,s father. His father probably would have been born in the early 1800's and in Ma.`` >From a COLLINS researcher: ``Have you ever checked any of the Native American resources? Dawes Rolls, Miller roles, and Cherokee by Blood are two that I have checked for my Collins... The surname Collins is a 'common Native American surname'. My Collins are elusive as well. My family has been doing genealogy since the 1940's. No one has been able to break the Collins/Price brickwall. George Wiley Collins b around 1812, somewhere in South Carolina. Has a female relative named Elizabeth Collins, b about 1799, somewhere in SC. George married Sedition Price also born somewhere in SC. They moved to GA and were living in Murray Co during the 1850 census and in Bartow Co during the 1860 census. There is a Price family next door, but that line of research is a dead end as well. The 1870 census shows George living with his second wife. We think Sedition died about 1864, but we do not know where she is buried, no death certificate, etc. Some researchers say the boys in this line were killed during the war, others say they moved to Miller Co. AK (I think)``. Thank you very much. Jessica -----Original Message----- From: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 8:50 am Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New Hampshire Do you have any dates? Are they early ones? There are very good records online that start very early in our history. ________________________________ From: "downmemorylane@irelandmail.com" <downmemorylane@irelandmail.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 1:51:55 AM Subject: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New Hampshire Hello, This is my first posting to this List and was wondering, please, if SKS would help me. My Lyman TWISS was b. in Massachusetts and his wife COLLINS (surname and no first name) was b. in N. H. This info. came from census records but do not know which one, unfortunately. This info. was given to me via another TWISS researcher. I would appreciate any and all info. or suggestions on the above. Thank you very much. Jessica BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I really do not understand the Native American resources. When I pulled up Tennessee to find out what Indian tribes was in Tennessee, there are so many I have no idea where to start. There is a rumor that my husband's family are part Native American. No proof what so ever. However, the Robert Collins I am researching for can not be found, so it does make me wonder. Where do I start? Lois ``Have you ever checked any of the Native American resources? Dawes Rolls, iller roles, and Cherokee by Blood are two that I have checked for my ollins... The surname Collins is a 'common Native American surname'. -----Original Message----- From: downmemorylane@irelandmail.com To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 11:50 pm Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New Hampshire Ms. Greaves, If you can help me by suggesting where I may be able to go to continue on esearching my TWISS family it would be greatly appreciated. This is from my cousin: ``I have researched the Collin in that area in 1800,s and was unable to find ne that I thought could be Lyman,s father. His father probably would have been orn in the early 1800's and in Ma.`` >From a COLLINS researcher: `Have you ever checked any of the Native American resources? Dawes Rolls, iller roles, and Cherokee by Blood are two that I have checked for my ollins... The surname Collins is a 'common Native American surname'. My Collins are elusive as well. My family has been doing genealogy since he 1940's. No one has been able to break the Collins/Price brickwall. George Wiley Collins b around 1812, somewhere in South Carolina. Has a emale relative named Elizabeth Collins, b about 1799, somewhere in SC. eorge married Sedition Price also born somewhere in SC. They moved to GA nd were living in Murray Co during the 1850 census and in Bartow Co uring the 1860 census. There is a Price family next door, but that line f research is a dead end as well. The 1870 census shows George living ith his second wife. We think Sedition died about 1864, but we do not now where she is buried, no death certificate, etc. Some researchers say he boys in this line were killed during the war, others say they moved to iller Co. AK (I think)``. Thank you very much. Jessica -----Original Message----- rom: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> o: collins@rootsweb.com ent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 8:50 am ubject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New Hampshire o you have any dates? Are they early ones? There are very good records online hat start very early in our history. ________________________________ rom: "downmemorylane@irelandmail.com" <downmemorylane@irelandmail.com> o: collins@rootsweb.com ent: Mon, February 22, 2010 1:51:55 AM ubject: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New Hampshire ello, This is my first posting to this List and was wondering, please, if SKS would elp me. My Lyman TWISS was b. in Massachusetts and his wife COLLINS (surname and no irst name) was b. in N. H. This info. came from census records but do not know which one, unfortunately. This info. was given to me via another TWISS esearcher. I would appreciate any and all info. or suggestions on the above. Thank you very much. Jessica E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! -R: This must another one of your Collins. Remember I have said that the name of Thomas Collins is going to play a part around here in this TL of your tree. I suspect Daniel Collins grandfather or extremely close, will be a Thomas Collins. I have virtually no doubt whatsoever that this Thomas Collins is yours. Thomas Collins m:25-05-1618 Alice Cory at St. Mary Somerset, London, England. There is clearly another line of your Collins coming in here. I am not completely sure, but I woz foxed for a while to find out which church someone is refering to. The ref. said [St. Mary Somer], I suspect this should read [St. Mary Somerset, London]. Now, if you are standing at Blackfriars, once again, .... , go n., shortly take a sharp right into Queen Victoria Street, about 350m down take a sharp right into Lambeth Hill Road which goes into Castle Baynard St., about there is [St. Mary Somerset, London], and over the roads in Broken Wharf. Add that church to search records. This is extremely close to the other church I mentioned for Tim Collins. There are wods of Collins in London here in L1 area. -R: There is little choice, you need to take time out to sit down and get a proper Excel file going, and list every single Collins for every single church in this L1 area. You must add all associated known family surnames such as Cory/Corey, Francklin/Francklyn, Francknell, etc. Also: I 'feel' constant dragging to other possible branches to possibly: Anywhere around Maidstone Kent, Earls Colne might have an existing branch too, Bedford needs a desperate look into, also Norfolk, Norwich and eastwards. Mayors, church positions, merchants, this line of Collins is high flying, and a sailcloth maker must have been quite a lucrative business, or every sailor would be going nowhere slowly. I mean, how would a sail for a ship like that cost today ?. These guys were rich. I clearly do not know, but that chap who came to DC's mother in Bramford, he might be a high ranking army person ???. You need to make these lists. The John Cory, Merchant at [Norwich Norfolk] will be clearly related to Alice Cory. This Cozen-Cosin-Cossens-Cousins family must be added too, including William Cosin, [Schoolmaster of EC]. [***] John Cossens m:30-01-1636 Elizabeth Markham at Saint Dionis Backchurch, London]. I clearly do not know just yet, but that looks like it could be one of the Daniel Markham connections if you ask me. This [Saint Dionis Backchurch, London] church has needed a proper glean for a very long time. Here one would want to know the relationship between William + John. === === === [***] Henery Linck m:14-05-1635 Sibel Colenes at St. Peter le Poer, London, England]. [***?] [Henrie Linche, Chr. 01-01-1587, St. Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England]. [***] [John Cossens m:30-01-1636 Elizabeth Markham at Saint Dionis Backchurch, London]. === === === Dale + Artes: I know have been through many things, but I now want to zoom right in to some things. You are called. Don't worry too much about all the rest. I have my working database and notes. I want both of you to just zero in here on these [***]. Sibel Colenes (Sibill Linch from London) has to be the sister of Martha Collins of EC. I see no way around it, and no second option. Everything is right here. Everything !!!. Dale + Artes: Zero right in here for as long as it takes. We have to know who Sybil's parent's are. And who is Elizabeth Markham ?. -R: This should also be one of yours too. - S.K.M. - [!!!] =========================

Ms. Greaves, If you can help me by suggesting where I may be able to go to continue on researching my TWISS family it would be greatly appreciated. This is from my cousin: ``I have researched the Collin in that area in 1800,s and was unable to find one that I thought could be Lyman,s father. His father probably would have been born in the early 1800's and in Ma.`` >From a COLLINS researcher: ``Have you ever checked any of the Native American resources? Dawes Rolls, Miller roles, and Cherokee by Blood are two that I have checked for my Collins... The surname Collins is a 'common Native American surname'. My Collins are elusive as well. My family has been doing genealogy since the 1940's. No one has been able to break the Collins/Price brickwall. George Wiley Collins b around 1812, somewhere in South Carolina. Has a female relative named Elizabeth Collins, b about 1799, somewhere in SC. George married Sedition Price also born somewhere in SC. They moved to GA and were living in Murray Co during the 1850 census and in Bartow Co during the 1860 census. There is a Price family next door, but that line of research is a dead end as well. The 1870 census shows George living with his second wife. We think Sedition died about 1864, but we do not know where she is buried, no death certificate, etc. Some researchers say the boys in this line were killed during the war, others say they moved to Miller Co. AK (I think)``. Thank you very much. Jessica -----Original Message----- From: Doris Greaves <doris_greaves@sbcglobal.net> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 8:50 am Subject: Re: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New Hampshire Do you have any dates? Are they early ones? There are very good records online that start very early in our history. ________________________________ From: "downmemorylane@irelandmail.com" <downmemorylane@irelandmail.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 1:51:55 AM Subject: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New Hampshire Hello, This is my first posting to this List and was wondering, please, if SKS would help me. My Lyman TWISS was b. in Massachusetts and his wife COLLINS (surname and no first name) was b. in N. H. This info. came from census records but do not know which one, unfortunately. This info. was given to me via another TWISS researcher. I would appreciate any and all info. or suggestions on the above. Thank you very much. Jessica BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

looking for information on siblings of sikes Collins b.abt 1853, D1915. of tarrytown ga. Sikes collins was married to Elizabeth Adams, and then to Bianca Ladson Warrnock. thank you Claudia Collins Shumate ccshumat@bellsouth.net

Have you ever checked any of the Native American resources? Dawes Rolls, Miller roles, and Cherokee by Blood are two that I have checked for my Collins... The surname Collins is a 'common Native American surname'. My Collins are elusive as well. My family has been doing genealogy since the 1940's. No one has been able to break the Collins/Price brickwall. George Wiley Collins b around 1812, somewhere in South Carolina. Has a female relative named Elizabeth Collins, b about 1799, somewhere in SC. George married Sedition Price also born somewhere in SC. They moved to GA and were living in Murray Co during the 1850 census and in Bartow Co during the 1860 census. There is a Price family next door, but that line of research is a dead end as well. The 1870 census shows George living with his second wife. We think Sedition died about 1864, but we do not know where she is buried, no death certificate, etc. Some researchers say the boys in this line were killed during the war, others say they moved to Miller Co. AK (I think). My father was in a direct female line with Sedition. His mtDNA HVR1 & 2 closely matches a few other female lines whose early ancestors are in the Baltics and Russia. There are also a lot of Jewish lines in the low resolution HVR1 matches. Any help would be appreciated. Lainey > Mr. Markam > I don't have Markams that I know of in my family..and I have not traced > my Collins to England..you said something that interested me that > my family was Native Amreican...can you tell me where you found > information? > I have looked for my ggggGrandfather Zachariah Collins/Collinsworth > for over 50 years.. > I started this search when I was in grade school and can not find my > family.. > I do have some of my families traced to King Edward I. And have a > LOT of information from that family. Since then I have also tied other > families into these lines. > This family has really gotten the best of me. > Thank you for any help you can give. > fawn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bart Simon > To: RW COLLINS > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:52 PM > Subject: [COLLINS] SKM > > > Hello, I am going to continue my Markham-Collins research on the > MARKHAM-UK > list only. I will come back to Fawn sometime. You can follow me there. > (-R). > Thank you. SKM. > > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mr. Markam I don't have Markams that I know of in my family..and I have not traced my Collins to England..you said something that interested me that my family was Native Amreican...can you tell me where you found information? I have looked for my ggggGrandfather Zachariah Collins/Collinsworth for over 50 years.. I started this search when I was in grade school and can not find my family.. I do have some of my families traced to King Edward I. And have a LOT of information from that family. Since then I have also tied other families into these lines. This family has really gotten the best of me. Thank you for any help you can give. fawn ----- Original Message ----- From: Bart Simon To: RW COLLINS Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:52 PM Subject: [COLLINS] SKM Hello, I am going to continue my Markham-Collins research on the MARKHAM-UK list only. I will come back to Fawn sometime. You can follow me there. (-R). Thank you. SKM. BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you have any dates? Are they early ones? There are very good records online that start very early in our history. ________________________________ From: "downmemorylane@irelandmail.com" <downmemorylane@irelandmail.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 1:51:55 AM Subject: [COLLINS] COLLINS family in Massachesetts and New Hampshire Hello, This is my first posting to this List and was wondering, please, if SKS would help me. My Lyman TWISS was b. in Massachusetts and his wife COLLINS (surname and no first name) was b. in N. H. This info. came from census records but do not know which one, unfortunately. This info. was given to me via another TWISS researcher. I would appreciate any and all info. or suggestions on the above. Thank you very much. Jessica BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, This is my first posting to this List and was wondering, please, if SKS would help me. My Lyman TWISS was b. in Massachusetts and his wife COLLINS (surname and no first name) was b. in N. H. This info. came from census records but do not know which one, unfortunately. This info. was given to me via another TWISS researcher. I would appreciate any and all info. or suggestions on the above. Thank you very much. Jessica

You are too far back. You must go the area of the ? mark. You could be 9G's back in the wrong tree, probably why you might never connect. Of course dee will help. You go and compare your line dee with that other persons line and see what happens, hit or miss !!!. Why don't you go looking for Collins death dates where say a husband and wife have died either on the same day or very near to each other. dna would be the first thing you would want to know. I am assuming they kept their original family surnames and not that of the adopted parents ?. skm. Subject: Re: [COLLINS] The Genealogist [!!!]: I was hoping that DNA would help. It didnt. I have one person 9 generations back but we have e-mailed and neither one of us can connect our line. The problem with this line is the grandfather, and sisters were put in a orphanage at a young age. They had very limited memory of the earlier years. Since they were all adopted out, the birth cert all list the adopted parents name, nothing on the real parents. One day something will break..... ===========================

Where does the birth certificate indicate the children were born? Start looking at census for families with the right age children. The point about surname is a good one. They may be genetically Collins... in other words, fathered by a Collins, but born to an unwed mother and the children were able to take the Collins name somehow. Look for single women with the right age children. Lainey > You are too far back. You must go the area of the ? mark. You could be > 9G's back in the wrong tree, probably why you might never connect. Of > course dee will help. You go and compare your line dee with that other > persons line and see what happens, hit or miss !!!. Why don't you go > looking for Collins death dates where say a husband and wife have died > either on the same day or very near to each other. dna would be the first > thing you would want to know. I am assuming they kept their original > family surnames and not that of the adopted parents ?. skm. > > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] The Genealogist [!!!]: I was hoping that DNA would > help. It didnt. I have one person 9 generations back but we have e-mailed > and neither one of us can connect our line. The problem with this line is > the grandfather, and sisters were put in a orphanage at a young age. They > had very limited memory of the earlier years. Since they were all adopted > out, the birth cert all list the adopted parents name, nothing on the real > parents. One day something will break..... > =========================== > > > > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I was hoping that DNA would help. It didnt. I have one person 9 generations back but we have e-mailed and neither one of us can connect our line. The problem with this line is the grandfather, and sisters were put in a orphanage at a young age. They had very limited memory of the earlier years. Since they were all adopted out, the birth cert all list the adopted parents name, nothing on the real parents. One day something will break..... -----Original Message----- From: Bart Simon <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> To: RW COLLINS <collins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Feb 20, 2010 6:18 pm Subject: Re: [COLLINS] The Genealogist [!!! Hello, <<< I read your very wonderful posts about all your ancestors going back to ngland. It just really interest me because with my family I can not even onnect yet, to anyone past my husband's grandfather (born around 1908). One set f Collins can be found, another set just wants to keep hiding. (unbelievable). >> In your case, I would get in contact with some of your closer cousins just lightly up your tree. Find them, phone them, and you will start to find out all f the ''other half'' of the family stories that never came down your line of amily. Also make sure to get in contact with the female lines where the surname ould have changed into female lines. All these descendants will still have huge nowledge about their ancestry somewhere in this. Trust me!!! Break out of the hell you are in, and get in contact with lines near to yours, and those people ou might never have made contact with before. It will be the quickest way to reak the gap. You will find that there is a reason for every single problem in tree like this. But 1908 is too close for a relatively close cousin not to now horbs ('lots') on your tree. Do it, you won't regret it as soon as you tart speaking to lost close cousins. But you must include the female connection urnames too, don't just concentrate on Co! llins surname only, all the descendant lines will have some knowledge about his and that. You will find that someone in the family will know just about verything. It's true. My one maternal cousin in Zims knows everything, has oxes of family photos, knows everyone in them by name, their story, the family ecrets, and there are a few, start here, and see how it goes .... I am not a Collins researcher as such, and neither is this Markham line mine. I m genetically divorced from both thus far. I have an interest in one of the ost complex and intriguing Markham tree problems there is, and I am trying to lign this Markham alongside the Collins tree to see where it can take me. These ollins trees are interesting though. There is a huge contingent of Collins in his region of London we have looked at. I also suggest you do the dee thang dna), so you can at least get your grouping. 1908 is too close, you have to ask our own cousins about it first, they will know somewhere along the line. There s always a reason for these stops in trees, always. In my next post I will give n ending post on Tim Collins. A classic example of how and why a tree research rinds into a stop and halt.... "I sometimes wonder how many people can actually sit back and consider how lucky ne can be to experience a Human life on Earth? To be able to have one chance to ee the Universe and wonder about it. Can you imagine a Universe without Life, othing would know it was even there at all ...." S.K.M. Cheers - Super Ken [!!!] ====================================== BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hello, <<< I read your very wonderful posts about all your ancestors going back to England. It just really interest me because with my family I can not even connect yet, to anyone past my husband's grandfather (born around 1908). One set of Collins can be found, another set just wants to keep hiding. (unbelievable). >>> In your case, I would get in contact with some of your closer cousins just slightly up your tree. Find them, phone them, and you will start to find out all of the ''other half'' of the family stories that never came down your line of family. Also make sure to get in contact with the female lines where the surname would have changed into female lines. All these descendants will still have huge knowledge about their ancestry somewhere in this. Trust me!!! Break out of the shell you are in, and get in contact with lines near to yours, and those people you might never have made contact with before. It will be the quickest way to break the gap. You will find that there is a reason for every single problem in a tree like this. But 1908 is too close for a relatively close cousin not to know horbs ('lots') on your tree. Do it, you won't regret it as soon as you start speaking to lost close cousins. But you must include the female connection surnames too, don't just concentrate on Collins surname only, all the descendant lines will have some knowledge about this and that. You will find that someone in the family will know just about everything. It's true. My one maternal cousin in Zims knows everything, has boxes of family photos, knows everyone in them by name, their story, the family secrets, and there are a few, start here, and see how it goes .... I am not a Collins researcher as such, and neither is this Markham line mine. I am genetically divorced from both thus far. I have an interest in one of the most complex and intriguing Markham tree problems there is, and I am trying to align this Markham alongside the Collins tree to see where it can take me. These Collins trees are interesting though. There is a huge contingent of Collins in this region of London we have looked at. I also suggest you do the dee thang (dna), so you can at least get your grouping. 1908 is too close, you have to ask your own cousins about it first, they will know somewhere along the line. There is always a reason for these stops in trees, always. In my next post I will give an ending post on Tim Collins. A classic example of how and why a tree research grinds into a stop and halt.... "I sometimes wonder how many people can actually sit back and consider how lucky one can be to experience a Human life on Earth? To be able to have one chance to see the Universe and wonder about it. Can you imagine a Universe without Life, nothing would know it was even there at all ...." S.K.M. Cheers - Super Ken [!!!] =======================================

There is a Joanna Williams in my line but She was born 9/22 1936 in Lancaster, Lancaster County. SC. She died of a aspirin overdose. She loved the taste of them and ate around a bottle in 1939. That is so sad. There is another book with more details but I have not been able to buy it yet. Hopefully soon and I will check it out. I will send the author a note to see if she recalls your Joanna Williams or any Williams our of New Jersey in the new book. There are several Smith married into the family but no Charles. Good hunting on this Joanna. Lois -----Original Message----- From: Jamy Rogers <jamyrogers@msn.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2010 3:31 pm Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Tlost Cousins and Relatives and Info Joanna Williams 1822-1855 Married to Charles Smith that would be great,. it is ike she dropped out of the sky... gee, maybe... LOL n Feb 18, 2010, at 10:59 AM, daze350@aol.com wrote: > I am related to the Williams group. I will check my book to see if any lived n New Jersey. -----Original Message----- From: Jamy Rogers <jamyrogers@msn.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2010 12:14 pm Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Tlost Cousins and Relatives and Info I have a whole family of Collins in NewJersey 40s and 50s and can't find hem. ame with any family of my great great grandmother a Williams supposedly born nd died there in New Jersey n Feb 18, 2010, at 9:07 AM, daze350@aol.com wrote: > I read your very wonderful posts about all your ancestors going back to ngland. It just really interest me because with my family I can not even onnect yet, to anyone past my husband's grandfather (born around 1908). One > et of Collins can be found, another set just wants to keep hiding. (unbelievable). -----Original Message----- From: Bart Simon <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> To: RW COLLINS <collins@rootsweb.com>; RW UK <MARKHAM-UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2010 4:15 pm Subject: [COLLINS] The Genealogist [!!!] Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! Hello Doris !!!. Thank you for the question. I will answer briefly. You are ucky to have this typed letter which takes you straight back into England. y initial feelings when reading this letter: I feel that this was probably ritten by someone about 3G's up from yourself, that the person is female, id-life to elderly, but the furthest memory for the top of this tree might e slightly faded, in other words, remembering an old memory might not be orrect to the true fact, and the memory would be close in some way, but not orrect. Keeping this in BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I feel better that you who knows the line didn't see her...I have gone through everything.. On Feb 19, 2010, at 8:17 AM, daze350@aol.com wrote: > > There is a Joanna Williams in my line but She was born 9/22 1936 in Lancaster, Lancaster County. SC. She died of a aspirin overdose. > She loved the taste of them and ate around a bottle in 1939. That is so sad. > There is another book with more details but I have not been able to buy it yet. Hopefully soon and I will check it out. > I will send the author a note to see if she recalls your Joanna Williams or any Williams our of New Jersey in the new book. > There are several Smith married into the family but no Charles. > Good hunting on this Joanna. > > > Lois > > > > > -----Ori > Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2010 4:15 pm > Subject: [COLLINS] The Genealogist [!!!] > > > Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! > Hello Doris !!!. Thank you for the question. I will answer briefly. You are > ucky to have this typed letter which takes you straight back into England. > y initial feelings when reading this letter: I feel that this was probably > ritten by someone about 3G's up from yourself, that the person is female, > id-life to elderly, but the furthest memory for the top of this tree might > e slightly faded, in other words, remembering an old memory might not be > orrect to the true fact, and the memory would be close in some way, but not > orrect. Keeping this in > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com >> ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > > E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am related to the Williams group. I will check my book to see if any lived in New Jersey. -----Original Message----- From: Jamy Rogers <jamyrogers@msn.com> To: collins@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2010 12:14 pm Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Tlost Cousins and Relatives and Info I have a whole family of Collins in NewJersey 40s and 50s and can't find them. ame with any family of my great great grandmother a Williams supposedly born nd died there in New Jersey n Feb 18, 2010, at 9:07 AM, daze350@aol.com wrote: > I read your very wonderful posts about all your ancestors going back to ngland. It just really interest me because with my family I can not even onnect yet, to anyone past my husband's grandfather (born around 1908). One et of Collins can be found, another set just wants to keep hiding. (unbelievable). -----Original Message----- From: Bart Simon <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> To: RW COLLINS <collins@rootsweb.com>; RW UK <MARKHAM-UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2010 4:15 pm Subject: [COLLINS] The Genealogist [!!!] Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! Hello Doris !!!. Thank you for the question. I will answer briefly. You are ucky to have this typed letter which takes you straight back into England. y initial feelings when reading this letter: I feel that this was probably ritten by someone about 3G's up from yourself, that the person is female, id-life to elderly, but the furthest memory for the top of this tree might e slightly faded, in other words, remembering an old memory might not be orrect to the true fact, and the memory would be close in some way, but not orrect. Keeping this in BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Joanna Williams 1822-1855 Married to Charles Smith that would be great,. it is like she dropped out of the sky... gee, maybe... LOL On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:59 AM, daze350@aol.com wrote: > > I am related to the Williams group. I will check my book to see if any lived in New Jersey. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jamy Rogers <jamyrogers@msn.com> > To: collins@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2010 12:14 pm > Subject: Re: [COLLINS] Tlost Cousins and Relatives and Info > > > I have a whole family of Collins in NewJersey 40s and 50s and can't find them. > ame with any family of my great great grandmother a Williams supposedly born > nd died there in New Jersey > n Feb 18, 2010, at 9:07 AM, daze350@aol.com wrote: >> > I read your very wonderful posts about all your ancestors going back to > ngland. It just really interest me because with my family I can not even > onnect yet, to anyone past my husband's grandfather (born around 1908). One > et of Collins can be found, another set just wants to keep hiding. > (unbelievable). > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bart Simon <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> > To: RW COLLINS <collins@rootsweb.com>; RW UK <MARKHAM-UK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2010 4:15 pm > Subject: [COLLINS] The Genealogist [!!!] > > > Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! > Hello Doris !!!. Thank you for the question. I will answer briefly. You are > ucky to have this typed letter which takes you straight back into England. > y initial feelings when reading this letter: I feel that this was probably > ritten by someone about 3G's up from yourself, that the person is female, > id-life to elderly, but the furthest memory for the top of this tree might > e slightly faded, in other words, remembering an old memory might not be > orrect to the true fact, and the memory would be close in some way, but not > orrect. Keeping this in > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I read your very wonderful posts about all your ancestors going back to England. It just really interest me because with my family I can not even connect yet, to anyone past my husband's grandfather (born around 1908). One set of Collins can be found, another set just wants to keep hiding. (unbelievable). -----Original Message----- From: Bart Simon <thewanderer@iburst.co.za> To: RW COLLINS <collins@rootsweb.com>; RW UK <MARKHAM-UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2010 4:15 pm Subject: [COLLINS] The Genealogist [!!!] Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! Hello Doris !!!. Thank you for the question. I will answer briefly. You are ucky to have this typed letter which takes you straight back into England. y initial feelings when reading this letter: I feel that this was probably ritten by someone about 3G's up from yourself, that the person is female, id-life to elderly, but the furthest memory for the top of this tree might e slightly faded, in other words, remembering an old memory might not be orrect to the true fact, and the memory would be close in some way, but not orrect. Keeping this in mind, I would step down the scale one notch to the ext much more clearly known person being Timothy Collins. My question is: s there a m. for one James Collins to Sarah Brooks anywhere ever in England or 1700-1800 ?. What I can tell you, is that one: imothy Collins m:10-12-1749 to Elizabeth Brooks at Saint Benet Pauls Wharf, ondon, England. imothy Collins Chr:09-10-1754, St. Sepulchre, London, England. ather: Timothy Collins. Mother: Elizabeth (Brooks?). SKM Says: This should be yours !!!] lackfriars is on the n. side of the Thames River next to the river, the ain road going straight up n. is Farmingdon/New Bridge Street, a way up ake a sharp right into Holburn Viaduct, and just there is the [St. epulchre church] I think it is. If you go from Blackfriars on armingdon/New Bridge Street going n., shortly take a sharp right into Queen ictoria Street, take a sharp right into White Lion Hill, which is next to Saint Benet Pauls Wharf church]. == Oh...don't go yet! Your posts are so very interesting and I've been putting ff asking if you have come across a Timothy Collins b 1754, Blackfriar ridge son of James Collins. know this is 100 years past what you are working on but I have to ask.]. amily Lore: (Copied from typed papers Don't know who is writing this. DG): y great, great grandfather was James Collins. His wife was Sarah Brooks. hey lived at Blackfrair Bridge, London; were clothiers and haberdashers. hey had a daughter and two sons. The daughter, Sarah, married a man named mith, who moved to Australia, died there without issue, in 1821 leaving oney in England Chancery Court. Their two sons having just completed their ducation. Timothy, my great grandfather had decided on learning the ilversmithing and Joseph had decided to take charge of the business, with is father, but they were walking on the street when a captain named Spencer nvited them to a pleasure trip. They were going to try out a new vessel. hey went and found they were pressed in to the English Army to fight the mericans. My grandfather was made a clerk on the trip over but his brother as never seen after, but grandfather was captured by Indians who made him un the gauntlet and whipped him if he did not beat in the race. He was in aptivity 7 months, when he escaped. Joined the American Army and fought nder Cols. Hall and Dorsey for which he received a pension as Sargent. My other remembered seeing a suit of black broadcloth all finished only to eam up for grandfather Timothy; also a dark Green broadcloth cloak with apes to be finished; same for her. Sent by Grandfather and mother in ngland, to save duty. They lived in Blairsville, Indiana Twn, Westmoreland o PA at this time. Mother was about 14 or 15 then. They were neighbors of he Livingstons there. == do not know how Joseph Collins fits in, I suppose one might have to just ook a bit around in other nearby churches. You will need to decide your own ncestor.... Cheers - SKM [!!!] =================== BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message