I believe Stephen Collins who was born somewhere in Kentucky may have married his first wife also from Kentucky and moved to Henry County, Illinois (near Weller)where daughters, Emiline b. 1841 and Clarissa, b. 1834 as well as other children were born to the couple. I'm not sure if Clarissa was actually a sister but the two women married their respective spouses within a few days of one another, and are shown living in close proximity all of their married lives. Clarissa married an Irishman named Luke Carrigan and Emiline married an Italian immigrant by the name of John Thomas Belt. The women's mother (my gggrandmother) may have died around 1848-49 as Stephen married Ann Fenn (b. 1830 in Illinois) in Henry County Illinois in 1849. The Belts, The Carrigans and Stephen and Annie Collins along with several children all removed by covered wagons to Jackson Twp, Macon County, Missouri around 1866 where they lived out their lives. Emiline passed away in 1876 and her husband John Belt is said to have later married her younger sister, Nancy (Jane) Collins who was born in 1850 in Illinois. I cannot find an 1850 or 1860 Census for a Stephen Collins from Kentucky, living in Illinois where all his children were born. If anyone has information of knowledge on this family, I would appreciate hearing from them. Emiline Collins was my great-great grandmother and I would like to trace this line but have so little to go on.

MGC: The Collen and DDM researchers should make good note of this post. I can see much of the picture, I just don't have all the info I require. This John Marcum m1. Elizabeth Harris and m2. Alice Little, I would ''think'' that he would have some at some association to families connected to your Jas Markeham + Abrm Marke of EC. His TL is completely perfect too. Also any Marcum in Colchester must be sought. The Collen family is huge in its connections to positions such as Aldermen, Bailiffs, etc. I also suspect there are many people in the region of grandchildren from Colchester living in EC after 1600. We can make good note of one of the few outward movements from EC is to Wethersfield where the Mott family was connected to the church there with that Stephen Marshall chap, and then Matthew Markham m. Margaret Lan [Luan] in Myland (Mile End) in Colchester. Let us take a look at Colchester for a while: The Christmas (Crissemasse?) family has deep roots in Colchester. I suspect EC became a Haven for persons kicked out of their positions etc. Jas Markham of EC lives on the same piece of land as one John Christmas. Richard Harris preaching in Colchester: This Richard Harris is almost undoubtedly related to the Harris family in NE I would ''think'' ?. Richard Harris was well acquainted with this John Christmas of Colchester. *** Alderman Robert Mott left money to both (Richard?) Harris and Newcomen, Mott's widow. Here Robert Mott leaves money to Harris, who is Mott's widow married to ?. *** Alderman of Colchester John Mayken (Served 33yrs). *** John Christmas in Colchester L:1600 or so. [Connected Persons]: Alderman from St. Peter's: John Pye, John Byrde, Martin Basell. [L:1593]. I don't know just yet, but I suppose that would then be St. Peter le Poer back in London ?. Surprise (!!!). Back to St. Peter's where the merchant Daniel Collens family connects to the Francklyn (Goldsmith) and Taylor (Tylor) families etc. and Sparke too. We are right back to St. Peters (!!!-!!!-!!!). Here too, one must notice this John Byrde. I can only suspect that this might form part of some connection to that one Martha Collens in a previous post of mine living just north of Ipswich I think it was. I need to go back to my notes somewhere, but she was the dg of one John Collens m. to one Bird was it ?. One Mott was also the town preacher of Ipswich remember ?. And we have Richard Harris made the town preacher of Colchester in the early 1590's. That famous John Locke chap should also fit somehow too. Locke might also be spelt Lok and possibly Loker (???), last one not sure just yet. There is also 'Marks'' too. *** Alderman of Colchester John Mayken (33yrs). [Seems Mayken will be a Dutch family ?]. [Mayken might mean ''Little Mary'']. Alderman Executors of Colchester: Thomas Lawrence 1594. William Buxston 1546. The Buxton family will connect to the Collens and Acton family of Bramford I suppose. Robert Talcott b:1565 in Colchester, Essex, England, bur:16-08-1641. He was Bailiff; Alderman; J.P. Mayor of Colchester. John married Dorothy Mott. Dorothy was born in 1592 in Braintree, Essex, England. [Taylecoat]. William Turner of Colchester. Senior Bailiff Robert Mott. [John Pye]. *** *** ***: 20, infra. Deed of John Bacon and Mary, his wife - late wife of Richd. Straunge, Esquire, - and others, made to Thomas Cristemesse and others. Writing of acquittance of Richd. Flyngant, of Colchester, fuller, Margaret, his wife, - daughter of John Potter of the Parish of St. Mary-at-the-Walls, made to Thos. Cristemesse and John Colyn, executors of the will of John Potter, aforesaid. This should be yet another one of your Collens +-R (!!!). This will also be part of the same Potter and Christmas family in EC. === ***** ****: This must be noted: http://books.google.com/books?id=WGPuZG4PRzMC&pg=PA34&dq=Alderman+Colchester+John+Mayken&hl=en&ei=Y14mTJOgOMqaOO3Y3PsC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Alderman%20Colchester%20John%20Mayken&f=false One John Mayken married the widow of a Colchester gentleman Robert Rokewood. Alderman John Clere helped John Mayken and his wife Agnes sell a house earlier than the terms of her late husband's will had specified. The house was sold to Alderman John Christmas, so the needs of several town leaders were served in the transaction. 1516: John Maykens, Bailiff. [Elsewhere]: John Bocher, Fishmonger. John Bocher, of St. Ives Hunts. John Bocher, alias Mayken Skinner, of St. Osyth, Essex. [Notes]: There is also some chap alias 'Walter'. Rokewood must be noted. === Harris: http://books.google.com/books?id=WGPuZG4PRzMC&pg=PA356&lpg=PA356&dq=Robert+Mott+Alderman+Colchester+Harris&source=bl&ots=SMrQHagnwh&sig=32dEmUm7dV9a4HBVNf9eY-f7SUo&hl=en&ei=dE4mTIbyO4uRjAeMtuiFAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=harris&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=WGPuZG4PRzMC&pg=PA356&lpg=PA356&dq=Robert+Mott+Alderman+Colchester+Harris&source=bl&ots=SMrQHagnwh&sig=32dEmUm7dV9a4HBVNf9eY-f7SUo&hl=en&ei=dE4mTIbyO4uRjAeMtuiFAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ6AEwAA#v=snippet&q=mott&f=false === I am going to the whole area of Colchester a hotspot named ''C1'' including Myland or very close nearby areas. +-R2D3, the give away name in the two trees is Kenelm Collens. These unusual or uncommon names are easier to follow or realize like the name Daniel Markham before 1660. So there is this ''Flemish church'' in Colchester too. This [The Oath Book or Red Parchment Book of Colchester] should be copied from the net into text file and go through it (OCR text). C1 also seems to have some great connection to one St. Botolph's in London?. There is another Edward Collins around or coming into Braintree/EC area, but a separate cousin it seems. There seems to be one Henry Collens in London probably brother to John Collens Salter + Sail Maker, or thereabouts. The Thomas Collens Alderman is just part of this web of Aldermen etc. There seems to be a lot to be found in C1. Even Jas Markham was a Deputy Constable? of EC at one time. This Wick or Wyk family is in C1 too. Lawrence surname a possibility too to DDM lines?. I have no doubt whatsoever ? that the Turnor family in C1 is part of the upper lines of the Turner family in EC. That seems even obvious to me right now. The chances that [1702 Susan MARKHAM & Robert HARISON Myland] is part of the DDM lineage is virtually 100%. Mathew Markham, [Wethersfield Essex] m:1674 at [Myland, Colchester] to [Margaret Lan][Luan?]. This would make his probable dg Susan Markham about <-28 yrs old when she got m. to Robert Harison. I am placing Susan Markham as the dg of Matthew Markham of Myland with only one single [?]. I am not sure what a 'Bocher' is, but usually alongside fishmongers, so I can only suspect it could be a 'Butcher' ?. *** Adam Mott is first heard of in 1645, when he was of New .... New York, and an alderman, married Deborah Lawrence. This should be part of this same Mott family from C1 to Braintree area where there is one Adam Mott, and the now known occurrence of Lawrence. *** John Birde, Ralph Northey, aldermen and justices of the peace within the borough, John Pye, Robert Mott, Martin Bessell and Thomas Reynolde, aldermen, ... *** ***: To be of note (Maybe?): OK, I have just looked one option up here: John Collyn, [Woolpit Suffolk] m. [Alice Birde] and has Martha Collyn, [Woolpit Suffolk][16-03-1600]. Johne Collens, [St. Botolph Bishopsgate] has dg Sibilla Collens, [St. Botolph Bishopsgate] chr?:24-05-1604. [Possibly the the one referred to earlier here!]. = Thomas Collins, [St. Mary Somerset London] m:25-05-1618 [Alice Cory] at [St. Mary Somerset, London, England]. = I have at least 2 other Martha Collins to list here. === [Priscilla Stephens of Colchester. Essex, widow, 5 June 1626, proved 17 March 1626.]: Must be associated somehow. What seems to be happening here, is that several trees just need to be filled in a lot better. All of these people are related. Let me leave it there for now .... - S.K.M. - [!!!] ========================== Took a long time to write this post. ==========================

MGC: See 4th Gen. (!!!): http://www.chriscollin.com/Home/genealogy-1 Please take it I am working from a ''Working Database''. [Kenelm Collin b:1563 prob? Chickney? Essex.]: Time line (TL) to me suggests that he could be the: [Kellam Collins, Elder (Citizen + Saddler London)] m:25-02-1587 Sarah Crouche. He has a son??? or kin (???): [Kellam Collins of St. Bride's Fleet St. London][11-01-1606]. One of these KC comes into EC from London. It is around this arena I am saying +-R's tree will probably connect to URL given above ?. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ===================

MGC: You should find some of this info interesting: === http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~molcgdrg/sur/2a/acton3.htm JOHN ACTON Spouse: JOANE BEDELL Marriage: 26 JAN 1571 Saint Thomas The Apostle, London, London, England. JOHN ACTONN Spouse: EMM TURNER Marriage: 27 FEB 1597 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England. === http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyLondon_including_Middlesex_(N-Z).htm#PageTitle Go to Saint Clement Danes and search several surnames such as Linch or Lynke, Collins, Acton, Squire, Harris, Bacon, Goughe, Turner, etc. === MARRIAGES AT ST. THOMAS THE APOSTLE: 1571. John Acton & Joane Bedell 1576. Walter Lynch & Alice Turner === *** This St. Clement Danes is a serious hit for several associated families (!!!). This is the John Acton of Bramford. His second w2. is Emm Turner (!!!). This Turner family must connect to Abraham Markham's family of EC some how. !!!. The TL suggests she must be either the wife of a Turner cousin or brother of Clement turner of EC, or a sister.... === The visitation of London, anno domine 1633, 1634, and 1635 . v.15: *** John Collins Salter of Londoner Abigail da. of Thomas Rose of Esmouth in com. Devon 3" wife. *** Sam. Bedle of Woluerston=Abigall da. of ... in com. Suffolke I Collins of Br . . . in Essex. OK, so we have the ref. now. John Collins Salter of London when in London, and later on in life a Sailcloth Maker of Bramford. [John Collins, citizen and salter of London]. Then the obvious one [Tho. Collins, salter, alderman] of London and not of just London, but seems to be of the exact same place as this John Collins. I can only suspect that this ''could'' be his father, who is the Alderman of London. Thomas Collins is holding the position of Alderman of London, but I moreso suspect or understand that he would be the Alderman of the ''Ward'' around Broad Street, not the whole of London. There seems to be an Alderman for each ward ???. His day job is a ''Salter'', like father like son ?. I think his predecessor was [Sir Ambrose Nicholas Salter, Mayor 1575.] who was also a Salter of London. === Surnames: Garway/Garraway, Lane, Powle. Also Boothby in London needs further review to connect to EC. Jas Markham was living on the land held by a Boothby ?. === WILLM BEADLE Christening: 08 JUL 1601 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JOHN BEADLE WILLIAM BEDLE Christening: 23 DEC 1621 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS BEDLE Mother: ELLIN WILLIAM BEADLE Christening: 24 FEB 1626 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: CHARLES CATERER Mother: FRANCES BEADLE ALICE BEDLE Christening: 09 MAR 1615 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS BEDLE THOMAS BEDELL Christening: 21 DEC 1616 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS BEDELL THOMAS BIDLE Christening: 14 MAR 1623 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS BIDLE Mother: ELLEN ABRAHAM BEDLE Christening: 27 JUL 1622 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JOHN BEDLE Mother: ALICE RICHARD BEDLE Christening: 10 OCT 1619 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS BEDLE LYDIA COLLYNS Pedigree Christening: 30 NOV 1607 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: GYLLS COLLYNS ELIZABETH COLLINS Pedigree Christening: 30 JAN 1619 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JAMES COLLINS Family Mother: MARY ELSABETH COLLINS Pedigree Christening: 07 JUL 1585 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JAMES COLLINS ALICIA COLLINS Pedigree Christening: 30 MAY 1626 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JOHN COLLINS Family Mother: ELIZABETH MARGARET COLLIN Pedigree Christening: 15 JUN 1577 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: ROBERT Family Mother: COLLIN THOMAS COLLINS Pedigree Christening: 18 JAN 1588 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: ROBART COLLINS THOMAS COLLINS Pedigree Christening: 28 FEB 1627 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JOHN COLLINS Family Mother: ELIZABETH FRANCIS COLLINS Pedigree Christening: 01 NOV 1593 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: RICHARD COLLINS ANNE COLLYNS Pedigree Christening: 02 MAR 1616 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JAMES COLLYNS ROBERT COLLINS Pedigree Christening: 06 NOV 1600 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: ROBERT COLLINS JANE COLLINS Pedigree Christening: 02 AUG 1618 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JAMES COLLINS ISABELL COLLINS Pedigree Christening: 01 JAN 1589 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: ROBART COLLINS JOANE GOFFE Pedigree Christening: 16 DEC 1627 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: TEAGUE GOFFE Family Mother: ANNE PHEBE GOUGHE Pedigree Christening: 30 SEP 1567 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England EDWARD GOUGHE Pedigree Christening: 28 MAR 1598 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: EDWARD GOUGHE MARTHA GOFFE Pedigree Christening: 02 JAN 1624 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: TEAGUE GOFFE Family Mother: ANNE GEORG LYNKE Pedigree Christening: 15 DEC 1608 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS LYNKE LUCRESYA LYNKE Pedigree Christening: 06 NOV 1614 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS LYNKE HESTER LYNKE Pedigree Christening: 13 JAN 1616 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS LYNKE NICHOLAS LYNKE Pedigree Christening: 13 JAN 1616 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS LYNKE MATHEW LYNKE Pedigree Christening: 04 JAN 1610 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS LYNKE AMY LYNK Pedigree Christening: 20 JUN 1613 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS LYNK ELSABETH TURNER Pedigree Christening: 25 JAN 1615 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Mother: ANGELL TURNER ELIZABETH TURNER Pedigree Christening: 03 OCT 1625 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JOHN TURNER Family Mother: MARTHA MARTHA TURNER Pedigree Christening: 11 FEB 1620 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JOHN TURNER Family Mother: MARTHA THOMAS TURNER Pedigree Christening: 28 MAR 1621 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS TURNER Family Mother: WIBREY SUSANNA TURNER Pedigree Christening: 06 JUN 1617 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Mother: ANGELL TURNER JOSEPTH TURNER Pedigree Christening: 02 DEC 1604 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JOSEPTH TURNER ROBART TURNER Pedigree Christening: 29 SEP 1578 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: HENRY TURNER RICHARD TURNER Pedigree Christening: 23 FEB 1595 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JOHN TURNER MARY TURNER Pedigree Christening: 25 JAN 1615 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Mother: ANGELL TURNER MARY TURNER Pedigree Christening: 11 NOV 1619 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: THOMAS TURNER Family Mother: WIBRAY MARIE TURNER Pedigree Christening: 06 APR 1623 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: JOHN TURNER Family Mother: MARTHA ANNE BACON Pedigree Christening: 25 JAN 1627 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England Father: WILLM HARRIS Family Mother: MARYE BACON *** MARY MARKEHAM Spouse: JAMES SQUIRE Family Marriage: 14 OCT 1655 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England *** MARGERY SQUIRE Spouse: ROBERT HARRIS Family Marriage: 18 MAY 1657 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England MARY LE-SQUIRE Pedigree Spouse: GEORGE GOZLING Family Marriage: 12 SEP 1670 Saint Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England JANE ACTON Pedigree Spouse: THO. DIXON Family Marriage: 21 OCT 1628 Saint Thomas The Apostle, London, London, England *** JOHN ACTON Pedigree Spouse: JOANE BEDELL Family Marriage: 26 JAN 1571 Saint Thomas The Apostle, London, London, England JOHN COLLINS Pedigree Spouse: ANN AWDRYE Family Marriage: 15 JUN 1634 Saint Thomas The Apostle, London, London, England PENELOPE COLLINS Pedigree Spouse: JOHN THOMSON Family Marriage: 28 JUN 1647 Saint Thomas The Apostle, London, London, England ANNE TURNOR Pedigree Spouse: JOHN DODKIN Family Marriage: 05 AUG 1632 Saint Thomas The Apostle, London, London, England ALICE TURNER Pedigree Spouse: WALTER LYNCH Family Marriage: 03 FEB 1576 Saint Thomas The Apostle, London, London, England MARY MARKHAM Pedigree Spouse: WILLIAM GRIFFIN Family Marriage: 12 SEP 1630 Saint Vedast Foster Lane And Saint Michael Le Querlo, London, London, England === ***** *****: [Saint Botolph Bishopsgate, London]: Huge Note: This must be the church where Johne Collens the father of Martha Collins of EC has his other dg Sibilla Collens b:1604. The Collins families (Plural) is huge here, and others, and Gough (!!!). The connection to SEVERAL mayors and clergy and even Bishops is nearby continually. 1622-09-24: Thomas Franklyn ''Merchant Taylor'' ... ... ... Bishopsgate ... ... ... vice Bedell. 1622-10-03: Robert Bright 'Salter' ... ... ... Bishopsgate ... ... ... vice Franklyn. One Anne Boothby m. Matthew Bedell Esq. [Chingford Essex origins]. Mathew Bedell of London- named for Alderman of that Cittie is living 1634. m. Ann da. of ... Boothby of London marchant 2 wife. Mathew 1 Sonne. Prudence wife to Tho. Thorrold of London. Ann wife to Thomas Mustard of London. Thomas 2 Sonne. Elizabeth wife to Herbert Awbrey sonn & heir of Sir Samuell Awbrey. [[[This Awbrey family must be related !!!. This Boothby family must connect to EC !!!]]] === Cheers - S.K.M. [!!!] =======================

MGC: I have little doubt that the William Markham (1621) of NE will be related quite closely to DDM at least via marriages. But saying that, it still seems you have the correct DDM as you have it coming out of EC. The other problem I am having is still more incorrect trees. These Abigail Collins form part of that it seems. There is also a continual drawing to Yorks too for several families as well as Kent. It seems Bramford fell under Norfolk for church circles. this is why we find related persons in Norwich Norfolk such as Cory etc. This Acton family is in Ipswich, and then they buy the Manor of Bramford from Eldred and Whitmore. === Marriages at St. Thomas the Apostle: 1571. *** John Acton & Joaue Bedell. 1576. *** Walter Ciynch & Alice Turner. [Not sure of surname: Lynch ?]. 1589. *** Richard Baylie & Elizabeth Adams. 1628. *** Tho. Dixon, gent., & Jane Acton, widow. 1581. *** Tymothy Wheeler & Elizabeth Hitchcocke. === In 1625 I think it is, a John Collins is still living in Bramford, and he would be the brother of Daniel Collins of London. It seems he must have spent his early life in and around London, but his family did have have this half acre plot of land here in Bramford. His brother was obviously well off in London, and so after their mother died, John must have come back to Bramford to live there. This John Collins should be the father of Sibbill and Martha Collins. This Green family must also have quite some further relationship around here too, probably to earlier Acton. The simple pattern is clear that Acton-Collins-Bedell-Turner-Wheeler-Hitchcocke-Baylie-Adams-Etc., are probably seriously related just a gen or two back in TL. There people are all related, in a big circle. One of these closely associated persons in Bramford I think it is, married the sister of the President of Ireland. So there is this huge Government-Municipal connection all round. William Acton, [Portman of Ipswich EN] is also a weaver? too it seems. And in [1597: Treasurer of Ipswich]. In Ipswich: [Treasurer of Ipswich: 1597 - John Ward; 1573 - Christopher Ward]. [Manor of Bramford purchased by Wm. Acton of Ipswich in 1611 from John Eldred and Wm. Whitmore for £960.]. This William Markham Marchant of Ipswich whose wife is clearly that Abigail Markham alias Marchant of Ipswich: This is Ipswich in Suffolk England not far from Bramford. I need to know who these people are !. Dale + Artes + Others: Can we look into this, we do need to know.... William Wagger who d:1625, in his will at the bottom: [John Wagger to be exor. Wit. Lawrence Sharpe, John Collins]: This is the John Collins who should be the father of Sibbill + Martha Collins. This JC would be about 50(+) years old by now. This William Wagger has three children: John, Abigail, and Mary Wagger. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ========================

MGC: Elizabeth Whitmore's father is Francis Whitmore. But I am currently seeing that William Whitmore as probably part of that same family line. The one [Sir George Whitmore (Lord Mayor of London 1631-2)] is closely related to him it seems, and I think this George Whitmore gets placed in chookie. This Whitmore family is in London and Yorks I think it is (Apley ?). Some of these associated people seem to go to VA, and you might want to add that early VA Henrie Collins to your list of Collins for further research +-R. Below I have made a quick selection of notes which seem to show quite some pattern here in London and to the mayors of London. I suggest you keep and print this post because sooner or later you will have to go through them all to see how they all are related to each other. Make good note of all the surnames mentioned here and wherever else you see them come up again. One truly needs to use say Google Maps and actually look up every place name, and you will clearly see the closeness of these people here in the L1 area of London, in fact, some literally living on the same block (!!!). I can only suspect Benjamin Franklin's line must also connect to this L1 area of London too ?. But you can notice just how high flying some of these people are here in L1 Mayors area. Make exceptional note that [St. Edmund-the-King Lombard Street] is in the same short road as [St. Mary Woolnoth Lombard Street] (!!!). We will also find several links to these mayors etc. here in London to Archbishops etc. === 1567. William Bonde. Brother of Sir George Bonde (Lord Mayor, 1587-8) and father of Martin Bond, M.P. for the City 1624-5. He purchased Crosby Place in 1567. 1580. Sir John Harte. One of the chief founders of the East India Company. His eldest daughter married Sir George Bolles (Lord Mayor 1617-8) and his second Humphrey Smith (Alderman, Sheriff 1629-30). 1592. Sir John Garrarde. Son of Sir William Garrarde (Lord Mayor 1555-6). His son Sir John was created a Baronet and was father of Sir Samuel (Lord Mayor 1709-10). 1593. Sir Robert Lee. Son-in-law of Sir James Hawes (Lord Mayor 1574-5). His widow married Sir Thomas Gerard, Bart., of Bryn, ancestor by his former wife of the Lords Gerard. He was father of Sir Henry Lee (Alderman 1614) and father-in-law of William Gore (Alderman, Sheriff 1615-6). 1595. Sir Richard Goddard. He married the widow of Giles Garton (Alderman 1588-9); she, after his death, married William Walthall (Alderman, Sheriff 1606-7). 1600. Sir William Craven. Brother-in-law of Sir George Whitmore (Lord Mayor 1631-2) and father of the first Earl Craven and of Lord Craven of Ryton, the founder of the Craven Scholarships at Oxford and Cambridge. His daughters married respectively Lord Powis, father of the Jacobite Marquis of Powis and the second Lord Coventry, by whom she was mother of the first and fourth Earls of Coventry. 1602. Sir William Romeney. Son-in-law of Robert Taylor (Alderman, Sheriff 1592-3). His elder daughter married John Weld, Town Clerk of London (nephew of Sir Humphrey Weld, Lord Mayor 1608-9). 1604. John Eldred. The well-known traveller, father of Sir Rivett Eldred, Bart. 1605. Sir William Bond. Son of Sir George Bond (Lord Mayor 1587-8). He refused at first to accept his Aldermanry and was committed to Newgate 'till he conform himself.' 1621. Sir George Whitmore. Grandson of William Bond (Alderman, Sheriff 1567-8) brother-in-law of Sir William Craven (Lord Mayor 1610-1) and father-in-law of Sir John Robinson (Lord Mayor 1662-3). His elder brother, Sir William, was ancestor of the Whitmores of Apley. He was a strong supporter of Charles I. against the Parliamentarians and was imprisoned as a 'delinquent.' 1628. William Mott. Father-in-law of Sir Thomas Foot (Lord Mayor 1649-50). 1628. Sir William Acton. His daughter and sole heiress married Sir Thomas Whitmore, Bart., nephew of Sir George Whitmore (Lord Mayor 1631-2). 1632. Samuel Cranmer. 'The last male heir of the eldest of Archbishop Cranmer's sons' [Sir J. Baddeley, Aldermen of Cripplegate Ward, p. 62]. His only daughter married Sir Anthony Chester, Bart., whose uncle, Sir Henry Chester, K.B., was the second husband of her mother, the Alderman's widow (a sister of Thomas Wood, Bishop of Lichfield). [Other Separate Marriage Notes]: 161-JB Franklin, Philip (Franklyn), of St. Mildred, Bread Street, and Johanna Rose, spinster, of St. Mary Somerset, daughter of Thomas Rose, fishmonger, late of City of London, deceased - at St. Mary Somerset. 9 Feb. 158*. === I did say there seems to one John Eldred and a George and William Whitmore tagging around together, this must be them ?. John Eldred 1604 Mayor of London, that must be a hit. This Bond family must be further sought and understood. Straight after John Eldred and then William Bond, none other than one William Mott, who undoubtedly must connect to the Mott family associated with Earls Colne, must be a hit (Mark Mott). We know that this Collins family in here in London with Acton, and also directly connected to Bramford in Suffolk. Sir William Acton's sole dg an heiress marries none other than one Sir Thomas Whitmore the nephew of Sir George Whitmore Lord Mayor of London (Now in Chookie !!!). Samuel Cranmer not long after. And then one Philip Franklyn who m. Johanna Rose dg of Thomas Rose fishmonger of London, who must undoubtedly must be exceptionally of near kin to the Thomas Rose of Exmouth Devon, or the same person ?. I think there is a huge lot in this post to say the least. The basic frame is there, it just needs a lot of filling in. Martha Collins of EC's father will be a John Collins/Collens. But he does move a bit. One will need to make a list of all known Martha Collins dg of any John Collins any where for reasonable TL. At this point in TL, you still have the correct Daniel Markham from EC. One thing it seems, both Collins - Whitmore - Francklyn - Acton trees will eventually turn out to have some seriously interesting family connections, etc. But I think that aire of expectation has always been there. This one John Collins of London could/should be Daniel Collins brother one would think ?. Sibbell Colenes is born in London, but Johne Collens is only in that one spot/place for maybe one year or so, and seems to move elsewhere. There is only one single Sibbell Colenes record I know of, but apart from that, it has to be her. She m. Henery Linch, a clerk of sorts in London L1 area. She visits her ill sister Martha ''Goodwife'' Markham in EC. So that is the proof from primary record. I am happy with that. Good enough for me. So we need to better identify this Johne Collens, and where is it he went to ?. There is something missing here that is upsetting everything. [Olltrupp, Richard, weaver, and Mary Rose, of London, widow of Thomas Rose, late of St. Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey, weaver, gen. lic., 27 Oct. 1593.] : This I suspect is also part of this tree. - S.K.M. - [!!!] =======================

BTW, i copied that verbatim about meeting and marrying the predeceased man . . . . we don't write 'em -- we just copy 'em . . . . no idea why anyone would marry a predeceased man, and think even meeting one a little . . . different b On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:00 AM, <collins-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Nancy Collins Steger of San Jose in today's obits (Betsy S) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 11:19:00 -0700 > From: Betsy S <betspix@gmail.com> > Subject: [COLLINS] Nancy Collins Steger of San Jose in today's obits > To: collins@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <w2n133b620e1005031119w85eb0a55yb8b99721399d89b@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > i don't know this person, but noticed in today's (May 3, 2010) obits in > *The > San Jose Mercury News*: > > Nancy Collins Steger, Resident of San Jose > > Our beloved, beautiful mother, Nancy, went home to the Lord peacefully on > April 27, 2010. Born in Ireland on May 12, 1911, she came to San Francisco > as a young woman where she met and married her predeceased husband Alfred > Steger . . . produced two girls, Nancy Hunt and Eileen Hendrix, two > grandchildren . . . two great-grandchildren. Always had to have hair done > Saturday to attend Mass Sunday. Visitation Lima-Campagna-Alameda Mission > Chapel, San Jose. Celebration of life May 3, 2010, Holy Spirit Church. > [I've > shortened this. - bcs] > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the COLLINS list administrator, send an email to > COLLINS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the COLLINS mailing list, send an email to > COLLINS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COLLINS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 53 > ************************************** >

i don't know this person, but noticed in today's (May 3, 2010) obits in *The San Jose Mercury News*: Nancy Collins Steger, Resident of San Jose Our beloved, beautiful mother, Nancy, went home to the Lord peacefully on April 27, 2010. Born in Ireland on May 12, 1911, she came to San Francisco as a young woman where she met and married her predeceased husband Alfred Steger . . . produced two girls, Nancy Hunt and Eileen Hendrix, two grandchildren . . . two great-grandchildren. Always had to have hair done Saturday to attend Mass Sunday. Visitation Lima-Campagna-Alameda Mission Chapel, San Jose. Celebration of life May 3, 2010, Holy Spirit Church. [I've shortened this. - bcs]

MGC: [(*****): Bargain and sale (for £960) by John Eldred and Wm. Whitmore, Esqs. of London to Wm. Acton, gent., of Ipswich of manor of Bramford with its rents and rights and property. 20 Jan 1611/12.]: In 1612, William Whitmore actually buys land right here in Bramford. He is quite often mentioned alongside John Eldred, probably related. This seems to be quite a high ranking Whitmore family too, as well as Acton. Also coming out from Bramford is John Sicklemore/Ratcliffe [!!!]. The early one d:1610, and he was Governor of Virginia, and remember that Robert Markham 'Mariner' was with him. [John Sicklemore alias Ratcliffe, Captain of the Diamond now bound for Virginia]. But the slightly later one: [... which were given unto John Sicklemore Esq. and me, the said Thomas Griggs, by Abigail Markham als Marchant of Ipswich widow, ...]. After further review, the ''als'' finally means ''alias''. I suspect she was the wife of this William Markham, Merchant of Ipswich. We clearly need to know who these people are (!!!). [Sentence of Abigail Markham, Widow of Preston Saint Mary, Suffolk 25 February 1662 PROB 11/307.] [Will of William Markham, Merchant of Ipswich, Suffolk 31 October 1660 PROB 11/300.] Dale + Artes: Can we get the texts for both these items here above ?. === [* William Acton, of Bramford Hall, Suff. Esq.; Whitmore Acton of Aldenham, Salop, Esq.]: Probably both related and connected to Bramford. Also: From my last 2 posts, it seems that the Abigail Collens (or her dg !!!) mentioned alongside John and Daniel Collens, is NOT the one who goes to NE. [Abigaill Heart, widow of Robert Hart]; [Abigall (widow of Robt. Hart), now wife of Samuel Petts]. This Abigail lives to at least [1643] (???). Who is Abigail Markham ?. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ===================

Mye Goodye Cosynes [!!!], [Speculative Post]: Dale, where are you when your Country needs you ?. I think I am seeing things again Artes !!!. My working database is just that. Now tell me Artes, Dale, +-R, is this correct ?: One William Acton [Portman of Ipswich EN] [d:29-11-1616 aet 76yrs] has (at least) two children: 1. Lydia Acton. 2. John Acton, Esq. [Bramford]. I ''think'' this is THE John Acton of Bramford !!!. John Acton's sister Lydia Acton m. John Ward [Rector of St. Clement's Ipswich EN] [!!!] [!!!] [!!!]. Here is the interesting part: This: John Ward [Rector of St. Clement's Ipswich EN], has a brother none other than Nathaniel Ward [Haverhill (Essex) - Ipswich (MA)]. This NW has a brother Samuel Ward, BD DD [Famous Preacher Ipswich] [b:1572, d:1643] who m. Deborah Leech [Bolton], and for this SW I have a side note: [Men.: Edward Markham, Samuel Ward, John Davenant]. Who is this Edward Markham ?. Also from my previous post, there is the first mention of Whitmore back in England, there is a Wm. Whitmore and also a George Whitmore, probably father and son or close. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ====================

Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! I can not recall if I posted this before, but here goes. We know from past Markham research, that usually people mentioned nearby, are often related in some way. And from earlier mentions of familiar names we find a prequel to later events. This must be what we will find here today. One would want to follow through on all of these references if one could. Make good note of this: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=173-ha61&cid=1-1-1-14-1#1-1-1-14-1 === Suffolk Record Office, Ipswich Branch: Loraine Family Archive: Bundle marked "A. Old writings AD.1595 to 1653. Manors called Beverlies cum Normans, Ficketts and Waylands in Bramford - purchased by Wm. Acton of Ipswich in 1595 from Wm. Borlas for £1300." HA61/436/266-271 1595-1653 [***** *****]: Bundle marked: "B. Bramford Manor. The Manor of Bramford purchased by Wm. Acton of Ipswich in 1611 from John Eldred and Wm. Whitmore for £960." HA61/436/516-518 1611/12; 1641/42 Bundle marked: "No.10. Old writings 1595-1622. Lamb's Close, Thorold's Close, Land in Ducklemore Field and Carter's Field purchased by John Acton in 1622 from John Carter and others for £220." HA61/436/260-265 1595-1622 Bundle marked: "No.11. Old writings AD.1580-1622. Tympley or Lewes Meadow purchased by John Acton in 1630 from Sir Richard Broke and others for £240." HA61/436/496-501 1580-1622 Bundle marked: "No.1. Old writings A.D. 1601-1634. Land called The Fennes (10 acres) and High Rutters (20 acres) purchased by John Acton in 1634 for £200." HA61/436/121-130 1601-1634 Bargain and sale for £115 by John Brenn, merchant, of Tuddenham and son John Brenn, haberdasher, of Ipswich to John Acton, Esq. of Bramford of messuage etc. in Bramford HA61/436/495 20 Dec 1639 Feoffment by Nathaniel Acton, gent., of Bramford to John Acton, Esq. of Bramford, only son and heir apparent of late John Acton, of 2 acres meadow in Bramford. HA61/436/502 14 Jan 1676 Bundle marked: "Old writings A.D.1662-1679. Runting's Farm-purchased in 1679 by John Acton from Gertrude and Barbara Courthois for £751. No.6" HA61/436/503-508 1662-1679 Bundle marked: "No.16. Old writings A.D.1635 to 1682. Piece of meadow adjoining Bramford Park called Cattisbrooke and a tenement thereon - purchased by John Acton from Morris in 1682 for £35" HA61/436/546-555 1635-82 Bundle marked: "No.2. Old writings A.D.1605 to 1771. Land called Bishops etc. - purchased of Mary Assey and sister by John Acton in 1688, for £78." HA61/436/131-144 1605-1771 Grant and enfeoffment by Wm. Borlas, Esq. of Bockmore in the parish of Medmenham, Bucks. HA61/436/137 1 Oct 1596 *** Contents: For £13 to John and Daniel Collens, sons of late John Collens of Bramford, sailcloth-maker, of 2 acres arable in Bramford occupied by Abigal Collens, widow, for 40 years, to use of John Carter, clerk, if Abigal Collens lives as long, after 40 years to use of John and Daniel Collens. With the Proviso that Abigall Collens might under her seal in life or by her will appoint and limit the property otherwise. Deed poll of covenant with Abigail, John and Daniel Collens by Wm. Borlas Esq. of Medmenham, Bucks. HA61/436/135 8 May 1598 Deed poll confirming possession by John Carter of 2 acres arable (Bramford) HA61/436/134 1604-05 Grant and enfeoffment by Wm. Acton of Ipswich, clothier, for £40 to Robert Harte, carpenter, of Bramford and Abigall, his wife, of messuage etc. and 1 acre in Bramford and 1 field (Bishops mead) to hold in capital fee. HA61/436/138 25 Feb 1603/4 Deed poll of appointment of land by Abigall Collens, widow of Dennington, Suffolk for £10 to Abigall, now wife of -, and to Robt. Harte, carpenter, of Bramford of 2 acres (in grant and enfeoffment of 1 Oct. 1596 to John and Daniel Collens, in accordance with proviso in that document HA61/436/136 13 Jan 1605/6 Deed poll, gift and concession by John Carter, clerk, of Belstead Parva, Suffolk to Abigail Hart of Bramford, widow, of property in Bramford, 1/2 acre, and appointment of Wm. Wagger and Thomas Smalade of Bramford and Belsted Parva respectively as his attorneys for this. HA61/436/133 13 Oct 1620 Deed poll of feoffment and gift by Abigaill Heart, widow of Robert Hart, carpenter, of Bramford to John Carter, clerk, of Belsted, Suffolk and Bezaldell Carter, clerk, of Canham (Cavenham), Suffolk to the sole use of Abigall Hart, then to son Robert of messuage and lands in Bramford. HA61/436/131 28 Aug 1621 Deed poll of Abigall (widow of Robt. Hart), now wife of Samuel Petts, by which lands, etc. (in feoffment of 28 Aug. 1621 - in Bramford to remain to Abigail Hart and sons of Robert Hart until grandson John Hart shall pay 10 pence to Abigail Hart. HA61/436/132 28 Aug 1643 Lease and release (for £78) by Mary and Eliz. Assey, sisters both spinsters, of Bungay to John Acton Esq. of Bramford of 1 messuage, etc., 1 piece of land and way (Bishops), 2 acres (as in HA61/436/137) and 1/2 acre, all in Bramford, occupied by Wm. Grimwade. HA61/436/141 9 & 10 July 1688 Release from all claims on receipt of £78 as in indenture of same date by Mary and Elizabeth Assey, spinsters, of Bungay to John Acton Esq. of Bramford. HA61/436/140 10 July 1688 Bond for £150 by Mary and Elizabeth Assey, spinsters, of Bungay to John Acton of Bramford to perform covenants. HA61/436/139 10 June 1688 Assignment for remainder of 100 year and 2000 year terms of Tye Farm, Bramford by William Beale Brand, Esq., Polstead, Suffolk, executor of father, late Jacob Brand, who held it in trust for William Alston, Esq. of Bramford to Elijah Impey Inner Temple, having trust for John Dunning. HA61/436/142 6 Sept 1766 Mortgage for £500 (by lease and release) by William Alston, Esq. of Bramford to John Dunning, Esq. of Middle Temple of Tye Farm, Bramford. HA61/436/143 5 & 6 Sept 1766 Lease and release by John Dunning, Esq. of Lincoln's Inn to William Alston Esq. of Bramford for £500 and interest (i.e. termination of mortgage) of Tye Farm, Bramford. HA61/436/144 22 & 23 March 1771 Unlabelled bundle. HA61/436/145-147 1702/3 Marked: "No.13A". Copy of Court Roll of Bramford (of John Acton Esq.). Admission (for 21 years) of Nathaniel Acton, brother of lord of manor, to Eight Acre Meadow on death of Nathaniel Acton. HA61/436/165 17 August 1702 Bundle marked: "No.14. Old writings A.D.1677 to 1709 of Beverleys alias Weylands or The Shipp in Bramford - purchased by Wm. Acton from Margt. Wallace and anr. in 1709 for £350". HA61/436/509-515 1677-1709 Unlabelled bundle. HA61/436/154-157 1721 Bundle marked: "No.13B. Old writings AD 1668-1736 of lands called Rutlands in Bramford formerly occupied by Skipper, then by Keary. With abstract of E. Jenney's title. Purchased by William Acton from Edmund Jenney in 1736 for £1426." HA61/436/166-174 1668-1736 Bundle marked: "No.5. Writings relating to an estate in Bramford purchased of Rownings by Wm. Acton in 1737. The Gravel Pit Field etc. HA61/436/646-663 1612-1738 Bundle marked: "Part of No.12. Lands in Sproughton called Haymer's Lands - purchased by Wm. Acton in 1737 from Robt. Leman for £460." HA61/436/158-164 1727-37 Bundle marked: "No.21. Ancient writings A.D.1658 to 1756 Purchase by H. Acton in 1756 of Tenement with 2 acres land (Lewes) and 6 acres land called Lewkes in Bramford. HA61/436/468-489 1658-1756 Bundle marked: "No.36. Old writings 1718-1762. 1/3rd of Estates in Somersham and Bramford - purchased by N. Acton in 1756 from Richd. & Mary Cuthbert for £350. 2/3rd of an Estate in Bramford - purchased by N. Acton in 1762 from Ruffles. 1/3rd of Estate in Somersham - sold to Ruffles. Abstract of Ruffell's title." HA61/436/556-567 1718-1762 Bundle marked: "No.37. Old writings. A.D.1647 to 1761. In manor of Normans and Beverlies. Lands in Bramford purchased by Nath. Acton in 1761 from Giles Stewart for £711. Abstract of Giles Stewart's title." HA61/436/664-681 1647-1761 Bundle marked "No.38. In Manor of Normans and Beverlies. Old writings A.D. 1724-1762. Rutten Farm purchased of Richard and Mary Cutbert 1762 by Nath. Acton." HA61/436/208-224 1724-62 Bundle marked: "No.40. Old writings A.D. 1662 to 1795. Tenement called 'Millers'. 'Knappett's Meadow' and other copyhold lands in the manor of Christchurch otherwise Withepole House in Ipswich. Purchased by Nath. Acton in 1763 from Wm. and Frances Woods for £60. Abstract of Woods' title. Admission of N.L. Acton, 1795." HA61/436/531-553 [n.d.] Bundle marked: "No.35. A.D. 1695 to 1795. Bramford Angel purchased of Francis Brooke by Nath. Acton in 1763. Purchase money £735." HA61/436/180-189 1695-1795 Bundle with label: "Purchase by Mr. N. Acton of 3 tenements in Bramford 1769, for £257.10. No.31. With abstract of John Garrard's title." HA61/436/519-530 1701-1769 Bundle marked: "No.23. Title deeds of an Estate called 'The Lime & Brick Kiln' or 'Gilberts' Farm purchased by Nath. Acton from John Stevens in 1770 and of the Paper Mill Farm purchased by Nath. Acton for his son N. Lee Acton from Lord Archibald Hamilton in 1773. With schedule thereof of N.L. Acton's title." HA61/436/449-467 1772-1793 Bundle marked "No.24a. Old writings of Thornbush Hall and late Rowning's lands. A.D. 1612 to 1702." HA61/436/234-245 1612-1702 Bundle marked: "No.24B. Old writings of Thornbush Hall and late Rowning's Lands" Bramford, Suffolk. HA61/436/84-102 1642-1770 Bundle marked: "No.24c. Part late Rowning's Lands and Thornbush Hall. A.D. 1712-1770. Purchased by N. Acton from Thos. Hankey in 1770 for £4200." HA61/436/632-645 1712-1770 Bundle marked: "No. 22A. Ancient writings. Part late Alston's. A.D. 1648 to 1721. Sickamore House Farm, Tye Farm, Brown's Farm and land adjacent in Bramford and Blakenham Parva - purchased by N. Acton from W. Alston in 1771." HA61/436/568-590 1648-1721 Bundle marked: "No.22B. Ancient writings to late Alston's, A.D. 1751-1771. Sycamore House Farm, Tye Farm, Browne's Farm, etc. in Bramford and Blakenham Parva purchased by N. Acton from W. Alston in 1771." HA61/436/246-259 1751-1771 Bundle marked: "No.25. A.D. 1674 to 1778. Writings of an estate purchased of Walker by N. Acton 1772 for £410, and conveyed in 1778 to N. Lee Acton. 2 tenements and 5 acres of land." HA61/436/595-612 1674-1778 Marked: "Hulverhills in Bramford" - list of deeds etc. from 1629-1708. HA61/436/613 1629-1708 Bundle labelled: "No.32. Writings of tenements and land adjoining the King's Highway leading from Bramford Street to Blakenham. Purchased by Mr. N. Acton in 1776. Hamby - Burwell - Leggett - Sparrow - Munnings - Walker - Parker: Abstract of title of Matthew Parker. HA61/436/194-207 1617-1779 Bundle with label: "No.26. Old writings A.D. 1598 to 1782. A piece of land in 8 acre meadow purchased by Nath. Acton in 1782 from R. Gardner for £50. Abstract of Eliz. Hicks Title." HA61/436/614-624 1598-1782 Bundle marked: "No.29. Ancient writings AD. 1695 to 1783. Purchase by Mr. Acton in 1783 of cottages, etc. in Bramford. Brasier, Parmenter, Garwood, Cutting, Upson." HA61/436/225-233 1695-1783 Bundle marked: "No.28. AD.1763-1787. Writings of an Estate in Bramford called Boltons Meadows purchased of Miss Wilkins by N. Acton in 1787 for £850." HA61/436/625-631 1763-87 Bundle marked: "No.30. John Mills, gent. to Nath. Acton Esq. 1794. Conveyance of an estate in Bramford opposite the new Tythe Barn by the turn of the road going to Sproughton - of a double cottage & 1.5 acres of land - Mich. 1793 for £180. Writings A.D. 1678 - 1794." HA61/436/190-193 1678-1794 Bundle marked: "No.7. Ancient writings 1618 to 1708. Tenements and farms of Hulver Hill and Aldersfield." HA61/436/63-78 1618-1708 Bundle marked "No.39. In Manor of Bramford. Late Lords Cottage near the Bridge. Old writings A.D. 1723-1786." HA61/436/539-545 1723-86 Bundle marked: "C. Old writings 1637-1793. Bramford Tithes ..." HA61/436/103-120 1637-1793 Renewals of grant of lease for 21 years of Bramford Rectory (each time on surrender) by Dean and Chapter of Canterbury to Nath. Acton Esq. of Hemingstone, Suffolk for annual payments of £6.13.4. to Dean and Chapter and £60 for Vicar of Bramford (provided carrying out duties properly) and £6.6.8. to Bishop of Norwich HA61/436/111-118 1744-93 Bundle labelled: "Ecclesiastical leases, etc. A.D. 1800-1865." HA61/436/928-938 1800-1865 Bundle marked: (on outer wrapper) "Deeds said to relate to some property at Hintlesham at one time subject to the same mortgage as 3 cottages at Tye - Purchased (with a field) 1909." (on inner wrapper) "Old Title deeds and writings relating to 3 freehold cottages and an arable field at Bramford Tye, the property of Sir Lambton Loraine, Bt." HA61/436/995-1062 1677-1895 === I would like to set a waypoint (WP) in time line (TL) that Abigail Collens has (at least) two sons named John and Daniel Collens-Collins-Collyns. Continued .... - S.K.M. - [!!!] =========================

Wm. C. Collins b. @1800-1820-my gr grandfather. He was in Rowlett, TX during the Civil War. Is shown in Jackson Co., AL in 1830 and 1840 census married to a Minerva. (She was of Cherokee descent). His son, Rice Columbus Collins was my grandfather married to Elizabelle Ballard from the same TX area. His sons (5) and (1) daughter were born in Rowlett, TX. Lee Martin Collins, Sr is my father and I am Jane Collins Ulrich. If anyone has any info, I will be happy to share more of what I have. Any response appreciated. Thank You in advance. collins043@charter.net

MGC: http://books.google.co.za/books?ei=D8HES_iaN87t-Qbx7KDUDg&ct=result&id=UEtnAAAAMAAJ&dq=John+Collins+citizen+salter+London&q=Ipes-+wiche There is a somewhat well-known John Collins with his brother Richard who are L:1574, that make sail cloths etc., and I think these were for the Royal Navy. I suspect this should the John Collyn who m. Alice Birde ?. This Birde surname is more likely to be spelt Bird-Birde-Burde-Beard?. [Martha Collyn Chr.: 16 MAR 1599 Woolpit, Suffolk, England. Father: John Collyn Mother: Alice Birde.]. This John Collyn is having his first offspring about the same year the other John Collins from Bramford dies. We know Sibill Colenes who m. Henery Linch in London must be the sister of Martha Collins of EC, and that Sibilla Collens chr.:24-05-1604 St. Botolph Bishopsgate London the dg of Johne Collens, should be her. We are looking for a Martha Collins dg of one John Collins, b:1590-1611 or so. I recall it was about TL:1574 or so, that the other John Collins who clobbered that John Noke chap was it?, went to Colchester was it? for his trial, and here it sounds like these chaps are on some bail?, and a licence for 21 years from 1574 (=1595!!!). One thing we clearly do not know for sure just yet, is who the John Collins brother of Daniel Collins Merchant is !!!. The purpose of this email is to start looking at every single Martha Collins who is dg of any John Collins for this TL, but they are not many. = Woolpit, Suffolk. (Pakenham): chr. COLLYN Ann John 8 Sep 1594 chr. COLLYN Alice John 20 Mar 1596 chr. COLLYN John John 27 Dec 1598 b. COLLYN John s. John 7 May 1599 chr. COLLYN Martha John 16 Mar 1599 chr. COLLYN Elizabeth John 25 Feb 1603 chr. COLLYN Thomas John 10 May 1607 m. COLLIN Agnes HARRIE Gilbert 27 Jul 1617 m. COLLIN Alice BRAME William 18 Nov 1628 H? COLLIN George WRIGHT Abigail 5 May 1636 chr. COLLIN John George & Abigail 7 Jan 1637 chr. COLLIN Richard George & Abigail 26 Apr 1640 b. COLLEN Abigail 6 Jan 1681 b. COLLEN George 1 May 1683 H? COLLEN Benjamin SEATON Elizabeth 24 Oct 1683 H? COLLINS Samuel SADD Katherine 3 Aug 1708 = It seems this Markham of EC is certainly not coming from Essex at all. You still have the right DDM though it seems. Goldsmiths could also be Trumpet Makers too, but termed as Goldsmiths. Dale: What exactly is a 'Salter' ?. I suppose a Salter of meat like beef or fish ?. [Specs]: Top of my head here only: I ''think'' there are 3 Salters, one b. well before 1500 for Bredstreete, and 2 later ones, I 'think' are John + Thomas? Collins, that John Collins who clobbered John Noke I ''think'' was the son of one Thomas Collins ?. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ===============

MGC: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=su8KAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA581&dq=thomas+rose+exmouth&lr=&cd=3#v=onepage&q=thomas%20rose%20exmouth&f=false I am wondering if this is the Thomas Rose of Exmouth Devon is question, it seems like it ?. He is brought out to Polstead in Suffolk, which is a whole lot nearer to Bramford Suffolk. Pg. 583: Thomas Rose is Chaplain to Lord Cromwell. His first child was probably born overseas. [... Lincoln, yeoman ; also of 1 other messuage, with the shops, cellars, solars and yards, situate in the said parish of St. Mildred, formerly in the tenure of John Clapshawe, late in that of John Collins, citizen and salter of London, ...]: Is it possible to get the rest of this paragraph ?. You can notice that there is not just one single line of business here, but several. This St. Mildred's church near Bredstreet should have associated families in its records. Also nearby is Allhallows too. EDWARD MARKHAM Christening: 12 APR 1681 Allhallows Bread Street, London, England. Father: JOHN MARKHAM Mother: ELIZABETH. AGNES BEDELL Christening: 06 JUL 1539 Allhallows Bread Street, London, England. Father: ROGER BEDELL. THOMAS BEDYLL Christening: 01 AUG 1540 Allhallows Bread Street, London, England. Father: ROGER BEDYLL. I wonder who those Markhams are ?. At the time Abigail Collins m. Samuel Bedle, her father is of Braintree Essex, his name is not mentioned. [Anne, wife of Daniel Mott of Chesham, and Thomas, their son, for assaulting Joshua Turner. [Entry erased]. In 1686, Daniel Mott was paid three pounds by the parish of Chesham for 'keeping Henry Hawkins when he was distracted'.]: I suspect this Mott is part of the picture too. This is up towards Tring. [John Collins, of Tower Street, London, Gent., Widr, about 36, & Martha Austin, Spr, ab' 21 ; consent of father William Austin, Esq., of S' Margaret's.]: A slightly later Collins. -SKM- ===================

MGC: http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/result_details.asp?intOffSet=0&intThisRecordsOffSet=2 In no other place than Braintree Essex, is there another one of these' Hospitals' being setup in 1625 by none other than Samuel Collins and Mark Mott. This would be Samuel Collins Vicar of Braintree, and that these Hospitals were being put in place primarily via the Collins family line, and therefore it is of no surprise to see the Samuel Collins signature first on the list. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ==================

MGC: === -R: You would want to make a proper list of all the primary info I am putting out, and make sure to mark out the ones I point out to be short listed as probable ancestors [*] of yours. So far, many Collens stem from London out to Essex. From long back posts, we know Abraham Markham of EC is connected to the PRENTICE family there. We also know that Abraham Markham + Jas Markham Weaver are never far away from each other, even in all lists they are always just a few names apart, both of their marriages are on the same page in the register entry book, [JM m:11-10-1632; AM m:27-06-1633], and that both JM + AM had some feud to one and the same person from Colchester I think it was, and that there must be further associations between these families. We also know the surname of Collens will be variously spelt in London such as Collins, Collyns, etc., and that a huge contingent of this Collens family will be found in this [L1] area of London, we seem to come back here every single time. The item that catches my eye first is this one: [*****1] [Q/SR 41/72 Recognizance: John COLLENS [Collyn] of St. Margaret Pattens, London, goldsmith, John Prentice and Robert Buntynge [Buntinge] of Colne-Engaine, husbandman, for the said John COLLENS to keep the peace towards Hugh Polleye of the same and William Isack of Alphamstone, Henry Clarcke of Lamarsh, John Fynche of Colne Engaine, and John Kebell [Keble] of Chappel, all husbandmen. [See 41/84]. 10 September 1572.] Well, St. Margaret Pattens, London is in the L1 region of London, if you are in Old Broad Street, take a sharp L into Threadneelde, a sharp R into Bishopgate, becomes Gracechurch Street, take a sharp L into Eastcheap Street, and down a bit to the R is the church. Nearby is also Saint Martin Orgar and Saint Clement Eastcheap churches. [*****1][Make good note of this one !!!]: This one has to be one of yours (!!!). John Collens Goldsmith of London. There is John Prentice of Colne Engaine near Braintree in Essex (!!!). What I like here is that this is a prequil to EC being dated 1572 in London. Here is also John Fynche of Colne Engaine (!!!). Dale, you are called: We need to know more of all of these people mentioned here, and who exactly is this John Collens, we know Martha Collins' father is probably in London for at least a period of time, but TL suggests that this John Collens would only be grandfather/uncle at the least. Whatever. But what this does tell me is a clear link of Collens to the correct families in EC, specifically John Prentice. Keep in mind the 2 John Collens from Bramford in Suffolk are not yet clearly defined as the same person, it has been assumed, but the one is clearly a 'sailcloth maker'. Well, looking at my tree, one John Prentice m. [Elizabeth Turner] did he not ?, and she is the sister of [Alice Turner] who m. Abraham Markham ?. TL suggests that this John Prentice is the grandfather of the John Prentice who m. [Elizabeth Turner], probably going to be right ?. The inbetween Prentice person might be [Valentine Prentis] ?. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=KO1ceziscVgC&pg=PA723&dq=Prentice+Colne+Engaine&lr=&as_brr=3&cd=7#v=snippet&q=Prentice&f=false John Prentice d:1620 and has a son John Prentice b:20-08-1618. He d:Abt. 1640 ?. After his father dies, [Elizabeth Turner] m2: [Bartholomew Clarke (Tailor)] and has John, Elizabeth, and Joan Clarke. === http://books.google.co.za/books?id=HJt_9gaMjcgC&pg=PA121&dq=John+Prentice+Colne+Engaine&lr=&as_brr=3&cd=1#v=onepage&q=John%20Prentice%20Colne%20Engaine&f=false The [William Isack of Alphamstone] is probably linked to [Christopher Isack of EC]. === Little Laver in Essex is where some Collens are, and this is where the John Locke comes from. Some let us look at the list at a glance to see anything of interest: [*] D/AEW 18/317 Will of Elizabeth COLLENS of Little Laver, widow 1629 [*] === [*] Q/SR 345/89 Recognizance of Thomas French, John Chaulke and William COLLENS, all of Braintree gents.; French (as in 88). 1650. OK, here is a Thomas French alongside William Collens of Braintree, this William Collens should be part of your tree -R (!!!), add him to your notes, and here is one Thomas French, possibly the father/brother/close to the john French chap in MA (!!!). === [*] ANNE COLLINS Spouse: HENRY WILSON Marriage: 03 MAR 1633 Saint Martin Orgar And Saint Clement Eastcheap, London, England. I would add this one too to your list. === Apothecary: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=YcAtAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA3&dq=meaning:+apothecary&lr=&as_brr=3&cd=6#v=onepage&q=meaning%3A%20apothecary&f=false I think there will be a much larger picture coming into play here on medical matters, and this William Collens 'Apothecary' seems to mean one who mixes medicines, has a shop, maybe something like a 'Pharmacist' ?. [***] Q/SR 241/44 Recognizances of Edward Lade "Keemer", William COLLENS apothecary, both of Braintree, and Edward Archer of Bocking husbandman; Lad to keep the peace towards Christopher Harwoode of Braintree butceh... 1623. Apart from Martha Collins and Edward Collins, there is at least one other branch of this Collins family around Braintree + EC it seems. [*] D/DMq/T2/16 Assignment of Mortgage [consideration not stated] (i) John Nash; (ii) Thomas Collins, both citizens and vintners of London; (iii) Arthur Harris of E. Farley (co. Kent), clerk, and John Mason of... 1697. [Maybe place on a list for future reference ?]. === Mawdlen Collins Spouse: William Kirkall Marriage: 14 APR 1561 Saint Martin Orgar And Saint Clement Eastcheap, London, England. === [***** *****] [Q/SR 41/72 Recognizance: John COLLENS [Collyn] of St. Margaret Pattens, London, goldsmith, John Prentice and Robert Buntynge [Buntinge] of Colne-Engaine, husbandman, for the said John COLLENS to keep the peace towards Hugh Polleye of the same and William Isack of Alphamstone, Henry Clarcke of Lamarsh, John Fynche of Colne Engaine, and John Kebell [Keble] of Chappel, all husbandmen. [See 41/84]. 10 September 1572.] I am changing this to 10*'s. The [Henry Clarcke of Lamarsh] is probably the grandfather or close of [Bartholomew Clarke (Tailor)] the second husband of [Elizabeth Turner of EC] who m1 to the grandson of the John Prentice mentioned above. This John Collens is flowing and working like clock work in [Speculation Mode] for me. Daniel Collins Merchant of London m. the dg of a Goldsmith. Whatever the exact case, this John Collens links directly to John Prentice of CE who must be the grandfather of Abraham Markham's wife's sister Elizabeth Turner who m. John Prentice 'Yeoman'. [John Collens [Collyn] of St. Margaret Pattens, London, Goldsmith]: Dale: Place this chap as the primary person to look into further. He will move about I think, but at least we have found him (!!!). It is time to include Abraham Markham family in this search now too. This seems to be AM's connection to Collens + Prentice from London. The common factor is this John Collens Goldsmith of London.... The 'Salters of London' are not yet in the picture, but their TL is just back 1-2 notches if they ever do fit in, but not yet. But we want 'RICH' Collens, which is what we have here. To -R: You are too negative, so from today I am calling you +R. Either way, one day or another, you will have to compile a full set of London records for Collins, etc. I suggest no you, but maybe someone can assist you to start a book to extract all, and I mean ALL of the London records for any Collins spelling for all, or at least, but not less than that, for this L1 area of London. You need to compile the list/book by church (!!!), it has to be done for your tree and surname. I would start off by a simple text file, I have an excellent text program if you want it. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ============

http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/all_results.asp?intSearchType=12 1 D/AEW 18/317 Will of Elizabeth COLLENS of Little Laver, widow 1629 2 D/AEW 14/25 Will of George COLLENS of Romford, innholder 1608-1609 3 D/ACW 16/102 Will: Thomas COLLENS of Terling, yeoman 1661 4 D/ABW 8/201 Will: John COLLENS of Soutch, Husbandman 1555 5 Q/SR 41/72 Recognizance: John COLLENS [Collyn] of St.Margaret Pattens, London, goldsmith, John Prentice and Robert Buntynge [Buntinge] of Colne-Engaine, husbandman, for the said John COLLENS to keep the peace towards Hugh Polleye of the same and William Isack of Alphamstone, Henry Clarcke of Lamarsh, John Fynche of Colne Engaine, and John Kebell [Keble] of Chappel, all husbandmen. [See 41/84]. 1572 6 Q/SR 157/51,52 Recognizances of Issac Edwards of Orsett, blacksmith, to give evidence against Thomas Cage of the same, shoemaker, for keeping a common victualling-house and therein keeping evil rule and also for b... 1602 7 D/ABW 11/150 Will of Thomas COLLENS of Laindon, husbandman 1618 8 D/DPn/T23 Deeds of messuages called COLLENS and Collholders, Sheering 1577 9 D/DCw T14 Deeds: Farm called Piltons, formerly Wayletts, formerly Flintfords, with lands (155 acres, field-names) in Great Parndon, manors of Little Laver, Berwick in High Easter and Pleshey; capital messuage (no name) and lands (138 acres field-names, formerly part of Durringtons) in Sheering and Harlow Includes copies of wills of John Bussie, clerk, 1635, and Richard COLLENS, gentleman, 1648, both of Great Parndon, and detailed schedule of lands (field-names) of Piltons, Great Parndon, with abstract of title, re 1611-1701 10 Q/SR 345/89 Recognizance of Thomas French, John Chaulke and William COLLENS, all of Braintree gents.; French (as in 88). 1650 11 T/A 418/64/74 Indictment of Nicholas Jones of Chrishall labourer, there stole nineteen wethers worth 100s. and two"ewes worth 10s., belonging to George Needham. Pleads not guilty;acquitted. Witnesses: Robert Coll... 1597 12 T/A 418/106/21 Indictment of Thomas Spillman of Langley labourer, there stole a black horse worth £6, belonging to William Collyns. Pleads not guilty; guilty; hanged; remanded after judgment. Witness: William Co... 1629 13 D/DMy/15M50/584/4 Order of John Kempe to William COLLENS to pay Mr. Wayte £10, 24 Aug. 1650, endorsed with receipt of Anthony Wayte to William Collins for £10 received for the use of his father, Alexander Wayte 1650 14 Q/SR 241/44 Recognizances of Edward Lade "Keemer", William COLLENS apothecary, both of Braintree, and Edward Archer of Bocking husbandman; Lad to keep the peace towards Christopher Harwoode of Braintree butceh... 1623 15 Q/SR 223/77 REcognizances of Thomas Barnes of South Hanningfield labourer, Robl Parker of Mallenden (Maunden) husbandman, William COLLENS of St. Catherines Christ Church, London grocer; Barnes to be of good be... 1618 16 Q/SR 140/79,94-97 Recognizance of William Ansell of Langley labouring-man, for Thomas Ansell to appear; and of John Shelford the elder, John Shelford the younger, butchors, Thomas Miles, labourer, and Richard COLLENS... 1597 17 D/DZu/51/4 Admission totenement and land (10a.) called Motts; Wydneys Croft (1a.) lying below COLLENS garden; droft parcel of dudmans (2a.), Little Dunmow 1605 18 D/DU 26/18 Mortgage (Release [Lease missing]) for £300 and 20s. (1) George Millett of Dovers, Hornchurch, gent.; (ii) Sir Erasmus Delafountaine of Kirby Bellars (co. Leics.), Kt.; (iii) Parmarier Forman a... 1670 19 D/DMq/T2/14 Conveyance (Lease and Release) for £1,600 (i) Eleanor Ganny (wid. of Charles Gandy of Crowes Hall in Debenham (co. Suff.), esq., deed., and niece and heiress of Robert Cage, gentleman (only s... 1696 20 D/DMq/T2/15 Conveyance (Lease and Release) for £1,600 (i) Eleanor Ganny (wid. of Charles Gandy of Crowes Hall in Debenham (co. Suff.), esq., deed., and niece and heiress of Robert Cage, gentleman (only s... 1696 21 T/A 418/144/13 INQUISITION taken at Ballingdon, 25 June 1654, before Thomas Talcott, Coroner, upon the view of the body of Margaret Makyn spinster aged 15. The jurors say that Anne wife of Ralph Campyn of Ballingd... 1654 22 Q/SR 66/2 General Sessions held at Chelmsford. 1578 23 Q/SR 144/2 General Sessions of the Peace held at Chelmsford on Thureday, Friday and Staurday after the feast of the Epiphany, Friday and Saturday Bishop of Colchester, Sir Thomas Myldmaye, Sir John Petre and S... 1599 24 Q/SR 98/19 Presentments for Ongar and Harlow, Freshwell and "Ogelsworth" [Uttlesford] hundreds. 1586 25 D/DMq/T2/16 Assignment of Mortgage [consideration not stated] (i) John Nash; (ii) Thomas Collins, both citizens and vintners of London; (iii) Arthur Harris of E. Farley (co. Kent), clerk, and John Mason of... 1697 26 Q/SR 114/2-3 General Sessions 1590 27 Q/SR 178/69 Presentments:- At the Sessions of the peace held at Billericay, before John Butler, esq., and other Justices:- Gabriel Norden of Vange, beerbrewer, for selling beer at the rate of 9s. the barr... 1606 28 Q/SR 89/2, 2a General Sessions of the Peace held at Chelmsford 1584 29 Q/SR 261A/4 A certificate of all such as are defaulters 1628 - S.K.M. - [!!!] ============

who are these Collins? Lauderdale Co., Alabama marriages Collins, Jesse P. Miller, Sally 17 Dec 1837 Wood, Alexander 3 59 Collins, Susan Bliss, Robert L. Mar 1835 Sloss, James L. MG 3 82 Collins, Thomas Beasley, Rachael 22 Apr 1822 Hendrick, O. 1 75 Collins, William Vance, Harriet 4 Jan 1830 Wood, Alex. H. JP 2 136 one more is listed, my gr., gr., gr. grandfather's sister, Mary "T." Collins m. 6 Feb 1836 in , Lauderdale, Alabama James M. McDonald are these older siblings of thiers? I have a 12 year space between thier parent's marriage in 1810 Mecklenburg Co., NC and her birth abt 1822 somewhere in AL. thanks for any information regarding them. I tried to find these couples in census but they don't seem to be in them. thank you. Cornelia

MGC: http://www.cornafean.com/william_bedell.htm http://www.belfastcathedral.org/visitors/virtual-tour/item/67/corbel-william-bedell/ Black Notley is right next to Braintree in Essex. This is the birth [Chr.:25-12-1571] place of Bishop William Bedell [Bishop of Kilmore + Ardagh]. It 'seems' his parents are [John Beadle] and [Elizabeth Elliston]. Bishop William Bedell [BWB] also had use of a tract of land in Suffolk. http://dunhamwilcox.net/source_files/stebbins.htm [Lands Recorded - Sold; 2 May 1636; Cambridge, Suffolk Co., MA 46. On 2 May 1636 "Edward Stebinge of the New Towne" sold to Nicholas Danforth "one dwelling house with garden and backside, about half a rood"; one acre in Cowyard Row; three acres on Small Lot Hill; eight acres in the Neck of Land; three acres in the Long Marsh; and seven acres and a half in Alewife Meadow [CaBOP 38-39] On 2 May 1636 he sold to Nicholas Danforth ("for the use of Edward Collins") six acres in the Great Marsh [CaBOP 39]. On 2 May 1636 he sold to Nicholas Danforth "about four acres and half of land lying in the Neck of Land lately the land of Richard Webb" and "about five acres of land lying in the Great Marsh lately the land of Richard Webb" (CaBOP 39)]. Deacon Edward Stebbins is the presumed son of William Stebbins of Black Notley. Of note, and I found this interesting, he is also the person in Hartford CT. ["Thomas Bedyll of Black Notley in the County of Essex, Yoman, in his will, dated September 16, 1550 (and proved in the Commissary Court of the Bishop of London for parts of Essex), directs his body to be buried in Black Notley church, and mentions his wife Johan, his daughters Alice, Custans, Johan, and Margery, and his sons John the elder, Thomas, James, and John the younger. The will of a Johanne Bedell of Hatfield Peverell, co. Essex, widow, was proved in the Commissary Court of the Bishop of London for parts of Essex in 1576. ... She mentions the children of three daughters, Brokes, Wyseman, and Rix or Cricks. This testatrix was probably Johan, the widow of Thomas Bedyll of Black Notley."]. [John Bedell was of Notley, co. Essex. Children of John Bedell: 1. Margery Bedell married William Brock.] http://treetreetree.org.uk/Fitch.htm#JohnBedell In and around this family tree area, we find names: Fitch, Thurgood, Goss, French (!!!), Reeve, Brock, etc. I suspect this [John French of of Edwardstone] might be connected to the French chap in MA ?. [William Boosbey of Earls Colne written 3 January 1679 as the tenant or occupier along with James Markham of William's 'copyhold ....]. [Will of William Boosbey of Earls Colne, tailor. Dates of Creation, 3 January 1678/9], [Sp.: Busby]. It is of note that Jas Markham 'Weaver' of EC land lord was a tailor. Jas Markham d:06-02-1679. === === === [Recognizance of James Adams and John Clarke, both of Colchester carpenters; Adams to keep the peace to James MARKHAM of Earls Colne weaver. 1656.] [Indictment of James Adams of Colchester carpenter at Earls Colne, did break into the garden of Abraham MARKHAM there and carried away the rose bushes growing there worth 5s. 1658.] [Of Good Note]: You can note that the same? person of James Adams from Colchester is a carpenter in Earls Colne. This same James Adams has a problem with both James and Abraham Markham. For the Daniel and Nathaniel Markham to be in NE with Edward Collins, one would think that both D+N would be related. Jas Markham m:1632 and Abraham Markham m:1633, only one year apart. Probably the best strike point is that the Edward Markham who lives with Abraham Markham has no b. date for or in EC. Dale: If any person of any family was born in say Braintree Essex say between 1590-1620, there are no church registers that exist, is that correct ?. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ========================

Correction to last post: Your [Amanda Cook] is from a place named Cherokee. The rest is correct. SKM.