?Mye Goodye Cosynes !!! I am new to the BACON list. I do not know the latest status for Bramford lines as such. Maybe someone could give me a quick run down. I have been looking at this Bacon for two days or so. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BACON/2001-06/0991689875 http://www.selectsurnames.com/bacon.html If we go to a map first, about 8 kms S. of Ipswich is Woolverstone [Lydia Ward who m. William Markham who had sons William Markham b:1621 and of Hadley NE, and also Samuel Markham (died?)], then about 6 kms SW of Ipswich is Copdock, W. of Copdock is Chattisham, above NW. of Chattisham is Hintlesham, between Hintlesham to Ipswich is Sproughton, and 3 kms NW. of Ipswich is Bramford. The person I am concerned with is Andrew Bacon of Bramford Suffolk who comes out to NE 1635, one of the first settlers of Middletown CT, and his nephew Nathaniel Bacon comes to and lands up in Hartford CT. It seems all of Nathaniel Bacon's children m. into the Wetmore/Whitmore family. Uncle Andrew Bacon is the son of Thomas Bacon of Bramford Suffolk. There is a will for him and his son Thomas it seems. >From what I can see so far, this line of Bacon is more centred in and around towns about and in Ipswich rather than from Stretton. There are several Nathaniel Bacons all around. This Nathaniel Bacon would have m. Anne Miller. That should be the correct marriage and persons in question here. In Earls Colne Essex, the James + Abraham Markham living there: They are more than likely brothers, but was it Abraham Markham who connects to one Hitchcock in Earls Colne ?. The surname of Hitchcock is also found in Bramford too. The Collins (Collens) family in question is from Bramford. Martha Collins who m. James Markham of EC should be a (great) grand dg of the John Collens 'Sailcloth Maker' of Bramford who m. three times, and I think he was buried 1594 in Bramford. By say about 1598, his widow Abigail (Rose) Collins (buried in Braintree Essex near Earls Colne) and two known sons usually mentioned together, being John Collins and Daniel Collins (Merchant of London). This son John Collins will be the father of Martha Collins ('Goodwife' Markham) of Earls Colne, and should also have another dg named Sibel Colenes living in London who m. Mr. (Henry ?) Linch. There is only one Sibbel Colenes in all the London records I can find, and she is the dg of one John Collins. That is her, in the right place too. I have not read the Bacon archives at all. I suppose you know about it ?. The known Nathaniel Bacons from Bramford to Ipswich area: It seems Andrew Bacon has a brother Nathaniel Bacon who has a son Nathaniel Bacon. === 1645: Matthew Hopkins. Robert Hitchcock a watcher at Copdock, Chattisham, Hintlesham. Mary Skipper implicated by Nathaniel Bacon of Chattisham. Matthew Hopkins met at Chattisham Nathaniel + Mary Bacon. Confessed to a Watcher. Basic Quote: "Another Nathaniel Bacon from Bramford possibly Nathaniel Bacon's son, fled EN to CT soon after". === One Matthew Hopkins is a 'Watcher' or 'Witch Finder'. He's going around checking people out and watching people from a distance to see if they are into superstitious practices. An 'imp' seems to be a 'winged demon'. Now this Bacon family in general seems to be high standing. I am thinking it must be this Nathaniel Bacon of Chattisham, one town away, who is probably the father of this Nathaniel Bacon who goes to NE ?. So I can only suspect that the father and mother [Nathaniel + Mary Bacon] were hauled off and maybe not heard of again or so. This would leave the son Nathaniel Bacon to his relatives. I will send the book page ref. when I can find it again. This Anne Miller wife will be a very close relative it seems of Nathaniel Bacon (son). This Miller family must be previously and closely related it seems so far. Very close. Short Note: Bramford Suffolk I think is the place quite well noted for the scary. I think it is here one of Alfred Hitchcock's stories? were filmed, ''Rosemary's Child'' was it ?. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=pzAwAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=Nathaniel+Bacon+Connecticut&source=bl&ots=8XDSKmEq_w&sig=hd1qGr2IsierRvHf2SgZAODi284&hl=en&ei=rHanTI2hB8ucOtvkkbkM&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CC0Q6AEwCDge#v=onepage&q=Nathaniel%20Bacon%20Connecticut&f=false So this Nathaniel Bacon the son is ''of Bramford'', where his father's brother Andrew Bacon resides. He must go to New England with his uncle Andrew Bacon, and this Bacon family would obviously be known to the Collins family of Bramford which is small enough place as it is. I need to come back to this point, but the Bacon of Stretton must be related to this Bacon of Bramford, it is only the parentage of this Nathaniel Bacon son that is in question. The Nathaniel Bacon from Bramford (son) is probably the one shown in the above reference ?. I 'think' this is a list of 'householders' in Middletown CT in 1670, which would make this Nathaniel Bacon born about 1629, since he died 1706 aet 77 yrs. It means he would have only been about 5-6 years old when his parents were taken away from him and/or the time he came to NE. Several of this Collins family were born in Bramford too. And there you can see the direct descents being Nathaniel Collins and Samuel Collins. They are related to Edward Collins there, who is the uncle of Daniel Markham (and probably the Nathaniel Markham who died in his house there, son of Abraham Markham of Earls Colne), where Daniel Markham is the son of James and Martha (Collins) Markham of Earls Colne Essex England. You can also see the name of Thomas Miller, a relative of this Nathaniel Bacon. Is he the father of this Nathaniel Bacon's wife ?. That Edward Foster might relate too, and also that Edward Turner. So this seems to be a Bramford Bacon family coming in here (!!!). That Samuel White 'might' also connect to White of Bramford somehow. I don't know all these trees. The other Nathaniel Bacon around Ipswich Suffolk is the ''Recorder of Ipswich'', and he must undoubtedly be related to this same family from Bramford Suffolk it seems. There is whole story of a change of land in Bramford connecting to this Bacon family, this can be sought further to one Gertrude Bacon whose attorney is John Curtis. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=173-ha61&cid=-1 <<< [Note]: Collins - Acton - Eldred. >>>: That Wm. Whitmore is more than likely the same family to the Whitmore of New England etc. That [Wm. Borlas, Esq. of Bockmore in Medmenham, Bucks.] is also the same person dealing with land sales to the Collins family there. John Carter is the 'Clerk', but also the clergy figure in Bramford, who is directly and closely related to the one John Acton there via Bezaleel Carter 'Clerk'. John Acton and Gertrude Courthois. [To John Acton, Esq. of Bramford and Edward Shepperd, gent. of Ipswich and Thos. Goodall, gent. of Barnards Inn property in Bramford with covenant of Gertrude and Barbara Courthois promising to convey same to Edward Shepperd and Thos. Goodall for purpose of common recovery by John Acton. Marked on back: "Where John Cutting now lives 1758]. [Mortgaged by Courtois 1662 and descended to Gertrude and Barbara Courthois who sold to John Acton]. ==== [1653 Memorandum of agreement between Nathaniel Bacon (Recorder of Ipswich) and John Curtis On appointment of a ...]: This should be the same Curtis family etc. === OK, I think I found it. You can read before and after this page: http://books.google.co.za/books?id=B5Yl4DiTo9MC&pg=PA100&dq=Nathaniel+Bacon+Bramford&hl=en&ei=Um2nTLrDC82TjAeb3MzJDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Nathaniel%20Bacon%20Bramford&f=false === I think what might have happened here, is that a high standing family has like one brother who dabbled a bit. The 'Watcher' was like 'Watching', a confession, and after that I don't yet like know. This info seems to make a lot of sense though. The Deacon Daniel Markham of New England is a wall that needs to be chipped away slowly. I would add this piece of info to the Top 10 items for further review to see if it is or is not: [m:08-11-1664: John Markham of Ipswich, sailor, widower, and Mary Baily of the same, widow.]. I would suspect that here must be some maritime connection to this line of Markham at least via sailors [Not NL lines !!!]. There is an entire realm of associated families being connected to Aldermen and Mayors of London, Ipswich area and Norfolk etc. === The one Thomas Bacon of Bramford had lands there ''inter-mingled'' with other lands, and so some latter ''trespass'' records might have come about. [Maybe a 'No Entry' sing on his front gate ?]. http://books.google.co.za/books?id=ldJMtRTV9ZgC&pg=PA237&dq=Matthew+Hopkins+witch+finder&hl=en&ei=2L2nTOe1BtjPjAfH18TDDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFkQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Matthew%20Hopkins%20witch%20finder&f=false Macfarlane (Allan ?): Only 23 out of 291 persons accused of witchcraft were males, 92% were females. === - S.K.M. - [!!!] ============================

My Collins family lived in Quebec, starting in 1795. But they had come to West Brome, Quebec from Vermont>New Hampshire>Massachusetts. These two brothers were descendants of "Henry the Starchmaker" Collins of Lynn, Mass. The two who migrated to Brome in 1795 were Henry Collins and Ebenezer Collins, both US veterans of the Revolutionary War (not Tories). Henry was the first settler in West Brome, and there is today a large "COLLINS" stone erected on the original cabin site by the Brome County Historical Society in 1895. (we drove up to visit this stone in 2001). They remained in Canada for 20 or 30 or so years, having many children there. Some children stayed behind - some serving in the Candian armed forces. Both brothers returned to the US by 1840, both moving to the Chicago area. (Henry to Lake County @ north end of Chicago, and Ebenezer to Will County near Joliet). Could your Charles Collins be a descendant of one of these brothers? Warren Collins sounds like he could be a grandson of one of these men. Val -----Original Message----- From: Sarah O'Connor <strangewayes@gmail.com> To: COLLINS@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Oct 2, 2010 6:45 pm Subject: [COLLINS] Collins family from Brome county, Quebec Hello; I am looking for any information on the family and/or ancestors of Charles oren Collins, born Oct 4 1880 in Potton, Quebec. He married Ethel B. Unknown] in New Hampshire probably around 1918. My information on him onflicts - I've got a record saying he emigrated to the US in 1884 and was aturalized in 1887; but I've also got his Canadian baptism record from 898. Parents: Warren W. Collins, born Dec 10 1854 in Quebec and Flora (Glitton) ollins, born Feb 4 1852 also in Quebec. *Children of Warren & Flora:* eorge Arthur Collins, born Nov 3 1877 harles Loren Collins, born Oct 4 1880 lora Adelaide Collins (Sep 9 1882 - Jul 19 1951). She married Stephen illiam Place in 1915 in Vermont. alter Collins, born c1890. Charles Loren Collins had 4 children, all probably born in Massachusetts or outhern New Hampshire: Warren Collins, born c1917 ussell Earl Collins (Jan 13 1918 - Jan 4 1989), who married Janetta Butler estwell (Jan 7 1922 - Oct 20 1991) alter Collins, born 1921 nd Elsie Collins, born 1924. Any information on any of those individuals would be highly appreciated. hanks! ~Sarah O'Connor E SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hello; I am looking for any information on the family and/or ancestors of Charles Loren Collins, born Oct 4 1880 in Potton, Quebec. He married Ethel B. [Unknown] in New Hampshire probably around 1918. My information on him conflicts - I've got a record saying he emigrated to the US in 1884 and was naturalized in 1887; but I've also got his Canadian baptism record from 1898. Parents: Warren W. Collins, born Dec 10 1854 in Quebec and Flora (Glitton) Collins, born Feb 4 1852 also in Quebec. *Children of Warren & Flora:* George Arthur Collins, born Nov 3 1877 Charles Loren Collins, born Oct 4 1880 Flora Adelaide Collins (Sep 9 1882 - Jul 19 1951). She married Stephen William Place in 1915 in Vermont. Walter Collins, born c1890. Charles Loren Collins had 4 children, all probably born in Massachusetts or southern New Hampshire: Warren Collins, born c1917 Russell Earl Collins (Jan 13 1918 - Jan 4 1989), who married Janetta Butler Westwell (Jan 7 1922 - Oct 20 1991) Walter Collins, born 1921 and Elsie Collins, born 1924. Any information on any of those individuals would be highly appreciated. Thanks! ~Sarah O'Connor

Shelley, Thanks for the effort to enter all those details! Wish I could claim some of them. Margaret (Isham Collins family)

I've "rescued" an old photograph album which appears to have originally belonged to Charles F. JOHNSON of Peotone, Illinois. The album contains a large number of photographs including many that are identified. Based on limited research I have been able to gather some information regarding the individuals identified in the album and have included that information along with details of all the photographs below: JOHNSON Family Photograph Album Charles F. JOHNSON Peotone, Illinois 1884 1860 census of Peotone, IL: James F. JOHNSON, age 30, a Farmer, born NY Emeline JOHNSON, age 30, born NY Charles JOHNSON, age 2, born IL Malen JOHNSON, age 4 months, born IL + 1 Laborer 1870 census of Peotone Township, IL: James JOHNSON, age 40, a Farmer, born NY Emma JOHNSON, age 40, Keeping House, born NY Charles JOHNSON, age 12, Works on Farm, born IL Mallen JOHNSON, age 10, Attends School, born IL Frank JOHNSON, age 8, Attends School, born IL Imogene JOHNSON, age 4, born IL William JOHNSON, age 2, born IL 1880 census of Peotone, IL: - living in the home of Christoph & Katarina BARTELS Charles JOHNSON, age 21, a Teacher, born IL,. parents born NY · “Ed”, taken at the Stevens Studio in Chicago, IL, 1887, man in his 20’s or 30’s · Unidentified woman, taken at the Abbott Studio in Morris, IL, 1890’s, woman in her 50’s · Unidentified man, taken at the Abbott Studio in Morris, IL, 1890’s, man in his 50’s · Unidentified woman, taken at the M. M. Mudge Studio in Valparaiso, IN, 1888, woman in her teens or 20’s · Unidentified man, taken at the Vilmer Studio in Crown Point, IN, 1880’s, man in his 20’s or 30’s · Unidentified woman, taken at the W. R. Ireland Studio in Holton, KS, 1880’s, woman in her 30’s or 40’s · Unidentified woman, taken at the W. R. Ireland Studio in Holton, KS, 1880’s, woman in her teens or 20’s · “Jennie”, taken at the Chicago Photograph Gallery in Joliet, IL, 1886, girl in her early teens · “Frank”, taken at the Arlington Studio in Chicago, IL, 1887, man in his teens · “Maud” taken at the Chicago Photograph Gallery in Joliet, IL, 1886, girl about 9-13 years · Kittie BRADFORD, taken at the Gale Studio in Joliet, IL, 1887, girl about 12 years · “Mrs. Carrie COLLINS”, taken at the Perry Studio in Peotone, IL, 1880’s, woman in her 30’s or 40’s · Mrs. Grace COLLINS BRECKY, taken at the Knowlton Studio in Kankakee, IL, Aug 1888, 15 ½ years old 1870 census of Peotone Township, IL: Michael COLLINS, age 24, a Telegraph Operator, born Ireland Carrie COLLINS, age 18, Keeping House, born IL 1880 census of Peotone, IL: Michael COLLINS, age 35, born Ireland, a Grocery/Dry Goods Merchant, parents born Ireland Carry COLLINS, wife, age 28, born IL, Keeps House, parents born Braunschweig/Hanover Germany Kate COLLINS, dau, age 9, born IL, at Home Grace COLLINS, dau, age 7, born IL, at Home Paul COLLINS, son, age 4, born IL, at Home Tom MELVIHILL, cousin, age 17, born Ireland, at Home, parents born Ireland + 1 Servant 1910 census of Peotone Township, IL: Michel COLLINS. age 64, married 40 years, born Ireland, parents born Ireland, to USA 1850, a Bank President Caroline COLLINS, wife, age 58, married 40 years, born IL, parents born Germany Louisa FOLSE, Mother-in-law, age 85, a widow, 5 children/3 living, born Germany, parents born Germany, to USA 1838 + 1 Servant 1920 census of Peotone, IL: Carrie COLLINS, age 67, a widow, born IL, parents born Germany + 1 Servant · W. J. MORRISON of Peotone, IL, taken at the Mayes Studio in Bloomington, IL, 1880’s, man in his 20’s, note “I. S. N. U.” and “Class of 88” · “Auntie Bess”, taken at the Severn Studio in Joliet, IL, 1880’s, woman in her teens or 20’s · Unidentified woman, taken at a studio in Kankakee, IL, 1900’s, woman in her 30’s or 40’s · “Dunlap”, taken at the Johnston Studio in Hoopest?…, 1900’s, woman in her teens or 20’s · Grace ELLIOTT MARR, Aunt Ella, Uncle John, and Aunt Mary, no studio or location, 1900’s, 20’s to 60’s Janet Grace ELLIOTT b. 12 Apr 1885 in Verona, IL married Gibson Atherton MARR (b. 4 Oct 1885 in Washington DC) and together they had a dau, Jean MARR b. 14 Nov 1913 in Salt Lake City, UT. Janet Grace ELLIOTT MARR d. 24 Jan 1974 in Palo Alto, CA. · Aunt Cora CHRISTIAN, taken at the Brand Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s, woman in her 20’s · Uncle Warren CHRISTIAN, taken at the E. W. Krause Studio in Chicago, IL, 1870’s or 1880’s, man in his teens or 20’s · Unidentified female, taken at the Gehrig Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s, woman in her 20’s · Unidentified male, taken at the Brand Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s, man in his 20’s · Uncle Will ELLIOTT, taken at the O. R. Westmann Studio in Joliet, IL, 1880, man in his teens 1880 census of Peotone, IL: John ELLIOTT, age 57, a Farmer, born Scotland, parents born Scotland Margaret ELLIOTT, wife, age 49, Keeping House, born Scotland, parents born Scotland Jeanette ELLIOTT, dau, age 28, at Home, born Canada William ELLIOTT, son, age 24, at Home, born Canada Agnes ELLIOTT, dau, age 18, at Home, born Canada Relle ELLIOTT, dau, age 16, at Home, born Canada John ELLIOTT, son, age 13, at Home, born Canada Lizzy ELLIOTT, dau, age 10, at Home, born Canada · Unidentified male, taken at the A. Calder Studio in Seaforth, Ontario, Canada, 1880’s, man in his 60’s or 70’s · Unidentified woman, taken at the A. Calder Studio in Seaforth, Ontario, Canada, 1880’s, woman in her 60’s or 70’s · Hetty BEEDY GOODSPEED, no studio or location, 1879, girl in her teens Hester Ann BEEDY b. 29 Oct 1861 to parents Phebe GOODSPEED (b. 1 Mar 1838 in Plainfield, IL) and Nathan S. BEEDY (b. 9 Feb 1835 in Essex Co. NY) in Peotone, IL. Hester "Hetty" BEEDY was one of 7 children born to this couple including, Oriel; Hester Ann; Samuel N.; Abbie E.; David H.; Carl N.; and Ethel P. BEEDY all born between 1859 and 1881. married Charles F. GOODSPEED (b. Joliet, IL) and together they had a son Frank GOODSPEED b. 2 Sept 1884 in Joliet, IL. 1880 census of Peotone, IL: Nathan BEEDY, age 45, a Hardware Dealer, born NY, parents born NH/VT Phoebe BEEDY, wife, age 42, Keeping House, born IL, parents born NY/PA Orel BEEDY, dau, age 20, a Milliner, born IL Hatty BEEDY, dau, age 18, at Home, born IL Abby BEEDY, dau, age 13, at Home, born IL Dan BEEDY, son, age 11, at Home, born IL Carl BEEDY, son, age 8, at Home, born IL 1900 census of Joliet, IL: Charles F. GOODSPEED, age 39, born Aug 1860, married 16 years, born IL, parents born PA, an Attorney at Law Hester A. GOODSPEED, wife, age 38, born Oct 1861, married 16 years, 2 children/2 living, born IL, parents born Canada/IL Frank GOODSPEED, son, age 15, born Sept 1884, born IL, at School Nathan L. GOODSPEED, son, age 13, born Jan 1887, born IL, at School 1910 census of Joliet Township, IL: Charles GOODSPEED, age 49, married 26 years, born IL, parents born PA, a Lawyer Esther A. GOODSPEED, wife, age 48, married 26 years, 2 children/2 living, born IL, parents born NY/IL Frank GOODSPEED, son, age 25, born IL, a Draftsman Engineer Nathan L. GOODSPEED, son, age 2, born IL · Mrs. Oral ARNOLD, taken at the Hartley Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s, woman in her 20’s 1900 census of Peotone Township, IL: George W. ARNOLD, age 40, born Jun 1859, married 15 years, born IL, parents born Germany, a General Store Partner Orel M. ARNOLD, wife, age 40, born Aug 1859, married 15 years, no children, born IL, parents born Canada/IL 1910 census of Peotone Township, IL: George ARNOLD, age 50, married 24 years, born IL, parents born Germany, Owns Company Orrel ARNOLD, wife, age 50, married 24 years, no children, born IL, parents born NY/IL Nathan BEEDY, Father-in-law, age 75, married 51 years, born NY, parents birthplace unknown 1920 census of Peotone, IL: George ARNOLD, age 62, born IL, parents born Germany Orrel ARNOLD, wife, age 60, born IL, parents born Canada/IL · Unidentified male, taken at the Bush & Kadgihn Studio in Bloomington, IL, 1880’s, man in his teens or 20’s · Mrs. Jessie SMITH, taken at the Brand Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s, woman in her 20’s · Unidentified man, no studio or location, 1880’s, man in his 40’s · Unidentified child, no studio or location, May 1887, age 17 months · Unidentified man, no studio or location, 1880’s, man in his 60’s or 70’s · Unidentified male, C. F. Redington Studio in Evanston, IL, 1880’s, young man in teens · Unidentified male, Clark Studio no location, 1880’s, man in his teens · Ella BEARD, taken at the Lenz Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s, woman in her 20’s · Unidentified male, taken at the J. H. Abbott Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s, young man in teens · Warren CHRISTIAN, no studio or location, 1880’s, young man in his teens · Cousin Bob COWAN, no studio or location, 1880’s, young man in teens 1880 census of Peotone, IL: Walter COWAN, age 47, a Farmer, born Scotland, parents born Scotland Agnes COWAN, wife, age 49, Keeping House, born Scotland, parents born Scotland Jane COWAN, dau, age 24, at Home, born Canada Hector COWAN, son, age 22, at Home, born Canada Agnes COWAN, dau, age 20, a Teacher, born Canada Robert COWAN, son, age 18, at Home, born Canada Belle COWAN, dau, age 17, a Teacher, born Canada Mary COWAN, dau, age 15, at Home, born Canada Jeanette COWAN, dau, age 13, at Home, born Canada John COWAN, son, age 11, at Home, born Canada Andrew COWAN, son, age 7, at Home, born IL Walter COWAN, son, age 2, at Home, born IL · Unidentified woman, tin type photo, 1870’s or 1880’s, woman in her 30’s · Unidentified child, no studio or location, 1880’s, girl about 5-8 years · Mrs. GINTER, taken at the Fays Studio in Joliet, IL, 1880’s, woman in her 20’s or 30’s · Unidentified Buildings, could be school or hospital, no studio or location, 1880’s · Unidentified male, taken at the Lewis Studio in Ann Arbor, MI, 1880’s, man in his 20’s or 30’s · Unidentified female, no studio or location, 1880’s, girl in her teens · Grace ELLIOTT, taken at the Eugene Hotchkiss Studio in Kankakee, IL, 1885, infant 14 weeks old · Hon. Rutherford B. HAYES photograph · Unidentified boy, tin type photo 1883, boy about 5-8 years · Rebecca MAXWELL WILTSE, Maggie MAXWELL, Mattie MAXWELL MCPHERSON, Miss FISHER, Pricilla SAYRE, and Sally SAYRE, taken at the Fays Studio in Joliet, IL, 1882, women in their teens to 30’s Rebecca A. MAXWELL was b. about 1860 and married Frank W. WILTSE (b. about 1856) on 7 Jul 1886 in Perry, IA and together they had a dau Ruth Waterman WILTSE b. 15 Apr 1887. Rebecca MAXWELL WILTSE d. 31 Mar 1946. 1870 census of Wheatland, IL: James MAXWELL, age 50, a Farmer, born Ireland Margaret MAXWELL, age 50, Keeping House, born Ireland Andrew MAXWELL, age 20, at Home, born Ireland Isaac MAXWELL, age 18, born NJ Margaret MAXWELL, age 16, born NJ Mary MAXWELL, age 15, born NJ Martha MAXWELL, age 12, born NJ Rebecca MAXWELL, age 10, born NJ + 1 Farm Hand 1880 census of Will, IL: James MAXWELL, age 59, born Ireland, a Farmer Margaret MAXWELL, age 59, born Ireland, Keeping House Isaac S. MAXWELL, age 26, born NJ, Teaching School Margaret J. MAXWELL, age 24, born NJ, Teaching School Martha B. MAXWELL, age 20, born NJ, Teaching School Rebbecca A. MAXWELL, age 18, born NJ + 2 Farm Laborers · Unidentified male, taken at the Baldwin Studio in Flint, MI, 1880’s, man in his 30’s · Unidentified male, taken at the Fowler Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s or 1890’s, man in his 70’s, may be a reprint of an earlier photograph · Unidentified boy, no studio or location, 1900’s, 4-5 years · Maggie MAXWELL, taken at the Elite Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s, woman in her 20’s, note “Beckies” Margaret MAXWELL was b. 1865 in IL to parents James & Margaret MAXWELL (James - b. 1829 in Dunkirk, Scotland and Margaret - b. 1834 in Dunkirk, Scotland) · Maggie MAXWELL, taken at the Brand Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s, woman in her 20’s · Mattie MAXWELL MCPHERSON, taken at the Mayes Studio in Bloomington, IL, 1880’s, woman in her 20’s · Rebecca MAXWELL WILTSE, tin type, 1870’s or 1880’s, woman in her teens or 20’s · Charlie SAYRE, taken at the Severn Studio in Joliet, IL, 1870’s or 1880’s, man in his teens 1880 census of Will, IL: George E. SAYRE, age 55, born NJ, a Farmer, parents born NJ/NY Ruth W. SAYRE, wife, age 52, born NJ, Keeping House, parents born NJ Sarah W. SAYRE, dau, age 20, born NJ, at Home Charles E. SAYRE, son, age 18, born NJ, at Home Priscilla C. SAYRE, dau, age 16, born PA + 2 Servants + 1 Boarder 1900 census of Chicago, IL: Charles E. SAYRE, age 38, born May 1862, married 11 years, born NJ, parents born NJ, a Physician Eveline B. SAYRE, wife, age 29, born Sept 1870, married 11 years, 1 child/1 living, born IL, parents born England Charles B. SAYRE, son, age 9, born Jan 1891, born IL, at School + 1 Servant 1910 census of Chicago, IL: Charles E. SAYRE, age 48, married 21 years, born NJ, parents born NJ, a Physician Evaline B. SAYRE, wife, age 39, married 21 years, 1 child/1 living, born IL, parents born England Charles B. SAYRE, son, age 19, born IL 1920 census of Chicago, IL: Charles E. SAYRE, age 57, born NJ, parents born NJ, a Medical Physician Evaline SAYRE, wife, age 49, born IL, parents born England · Grandma SAYRE, taken at the Steffens & Schneider Studio in Chicago, IL, 1870’s or 1880’s, woman in her 70’s · Unidentified woman, taken at the Vollmar Studio in Monee, IL, 1870’s or 1880’s, woman in her teens · Unidentified boy, taken at the A. Kruse Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s, boy about 8 years · Ruth DUNLAP, taken at the Severn Studio in Joliet, IL, 1880’s, about 1 year old Ruth DUNLAP b. 18 Aug 1883 in Peotone, IL was the dau of Sarah or Sara Anne HERVEY (b. 2 May 1846 in West Alexander, WV) and Rev. George DUNLAP (b. Mar 1849 in IL). Ruth was one of three children born to this couple including, Walter Hervey; Paul Robinson; and Ruth DUNLAP all born in Peotone, IL between 1877 and 1883. Ruth DUNLAP married Don Cameron SAYRE and they had a son Frank Wilder SAYRE. Ruth DUNLAP SAYRE d. 4 Aug 1960 in Hillsboro, ND. · Stella HOOD, taken at the T. S. Johnson Studio in Crete, IL, August 17, 1882, girl about 3 years · Miss FISHER, taken at the Baldwin & Harvey Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s, woman in her 30’s · Unidentified male, taken at the J. Henshel Studio no location, 1879, young man in his teens · Unidentified woman, no studio or location, 1883, in her 20’s or 30’s · Unidentified male, taken at the Howland Studio in Cincinnati, OH, 1880’s, man in his 30’s or 40’s · Unidentified children, taken at the Felp Studio in Chicago, IL, 1880’s, 5-12 years old · Unidentified Family, taken at the W. H. Farley Studio in Cabery, IL, 1880’s, parents in their 20’s or 30’s with children infant – 4 years · Grandpa MAXWELL, taken at the Parker Studio in Perry, IA, 1880’s, man in his 60’s or 70’s with child about 5 years I am hoping to locate someone from one of the families so that this album full of treasures can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of one of these families, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thank you, Shelley

Alice Avery born in Kentucky. Dauther of Martin Luther Collins and Mary Hunter KERNERSVILLE - Mrs. Avery Collins Mackie, passed peacefully, Thursday, August 26, 2010 at the home of her daughter, Mary Jo. She was born in Hardburly, KY to Martin Luther and Mary Hunter Collins. Mrs. Mackie retired from R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co. after 37 years of service. She was a faithful member of Oak Grove Moravian Church, where she enjoyed teaching Sunday school. In addition to her parents; she was preceded in death by her husband, Marvin W. Mackie; and sisters, Helen Fulp, Rosemary Eaton and Hazel Collins. Survivors include daughters, Mary Jo Hull (James), Linda L. Miller (Keith); and a son, Barry Collins; grandchildren, Brian Avery Lawson, Pam Friend (J.D.) Carlos Miller, James Hull, Jr., Dawn Crews Lauten (Eric), Mary Miller Cummings and Brittany Miller; great-grandchildren, J.D. Friend, Jr., Alexandria Mabe (Jason), Amanda Cummings and Chloe Lauten; great-great grandchildren, Hunter Hull and Ava Longworth; and two sisters, Virginia Overcash and Bettie Adams. A Graveside Service will be held at 11 a.m. on Saturday, August 28, 2010 at Oak Grove Moravian Church with the Rev. Matthew Allen officiating. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to Oak Grove Moravian Church Kitchen Fund, 120 Hammock Farm Road, Winston-Salem, NC 27105 or Hospice and Palliative CareCenter, 101 Hospice Lane, Winston-Salem, NC 27103. A special thanks to her church family for their prayers and support. Online condolences may be made to www.frankvoglerandsons.com. Published in Winston-Salem Journal on August 28, 2010

Still trying to connect our James Collins, b. abt 1847, d. 1898, married Sarah Ellen Wall/Walls in 1864 in Grainger County, Tennessee..moved to KY.  Have received 67 DNA matches, but no definite connection. Thinking perhaps he may link to Benjamin Collins.....anyone researching Benjamin Collins in TN?  Betty

MGC: There is a whole circle of related families joining up over and over and between each other for this DDM research. You will start to find the pattern and some truly amazing marriages that will start to show good patterns for possible Markham links etc. These are just hand-picked items and an incomplete list. I would like to give out another 2-3 lists for the other sites I mentioned previously. I have also added a few other surnames for fun. Not all of these places are full of Markhams at all, but they are full full of related families, Nacton Suffolk is one of them. Add Nacton Suffolk to your list of places. You will just how much these families are connected, and for long too. I will comment later below on some of these marriages. Make sure to look on map where these places are, you will see the pattern there too. Woolverstone is just over the river there. There is some feeling that the William Markham (1621) of Haldey CT might eventually connect up with your DDM, but from maybe near line from that TL, but a separate line nonetheless, I can't say right now. Sometime soon, one would want to get a dna match from living persons. Part One: ================================================================================ NACTON SUFFOLK: St Martin Parish Church: Nacton, Suffolk, . Amy Markham aet58yrs b:1823 d:1881 William Markham husband of Amy Markham. ABIGAIL COLE Spouse: ROB BRAMWELL m: 28 SEP 1652 Nacton, Suffolk THOS. COLE Spouse: ANN PAYNE m: 22 OCT 1618 Nacton, Suffolk LUCY COLLINS Spouse: THOMAS SKEET m: 03 NOV 1806 Nacton, Suffolk DANIEL DAY Spouse: MARY BEART m: 09 OCT 1807 Nacton, Suffolk GEO. DAY Spouse: ALICE KINGSBORO m: 18 APR 1676 Nacton, Suffolk, THOS. FARRAR Spouse: ALICE LOVE m: 26 MAY 1623 Nacton, Suffolk, ROBT. GRAVES Spouse: MARGT. WILKINSON m: 07 NOV 1650 Nacton, Suffolk ROBT. GRAVES Spouse: ELIZ LANSON m: 03 JUL 1677 Nacton, Suffolk SAML. GREEN Spouse: THOMASINE BULL m: 06 FEB 1637 Nacton, Suffolk JANE HUNT Spouse: ROBT. GIRLING m: 12 JUN 1656 Nacton, Suffolk MARGT. JOHNSON Spouse: THOS. MADDOCK m: 30 DEC 1606 Nacton, Suffolk PRUDENCE JOHNSON Spouse: STEPH MORFELD m: 21 AUG 1604 Nacton, Suffolk ANN JOHNSON Spouse: JOHN MINET m: 13 NOV 1621 Nacton, Suffolk ANN JOHNSON Spouse: SIMON KEMP m: 09 SEP 1610 Nacton, Suffolk SIMON KEMP Spouse: ANN JOHNSON m: 09 SEP 1610 Nacton, Suffolk SIMON KEMP Spouse: MARTHA OTTER m: 12 JUN 1623 Nacton, Suffolk THOS. KEMPSTER Spouse: DOROTHY MORSE m: 28 JUL 1653 Nacton, Suffolk REBECCA KING Spouse: JOHN ELMYN m: 18 JAN 1629 Nacton, Suffolk ALICE KING Spouse: JOHN LONDON m: 08 NOV 1562 Nacton, Suffolk SARAH KING Spouse: THOS. HARRIS m: 10 MAY 1654 Nacton, Suffolk ANN KING Spouse: THOS. ATHERWOOD m: 20 SEP 1653 Nacton, Suffolk JOHN LONDON Spouse: ALICE KING m: 08 NOV 1562 Nacton, Suffolk ALICE LOVE Spouse: THOS. FARRAR m: 26 MAY 1623 Nacton, Suffolk EMILY LUDKIN OR COLLINS Spouse: DANIEL MARGETSON m: 20 MAR 1867 Nacton, Suffolk MARTHA MANNING Spouse: JOHN BROWN m: 19 OCT 1817 Nacton, Suffolk MARY MANNING Spouse: JOHN ROBERTSON m: 30 APR 1821 Nacton, Suffolk BRIDGET MANNING Spouse: HEN BROKE OR BROOKE m: 25 NOV 1653 Nacton, Suffolk MARY MAPLESTON Spouse: ROBT. MUNNINGS m: 02 JAN 1689 Nacton, Suffolk WM. MARRIS Spouse: ANN WARKE m: 07 JUN 1563 Nacton, Suffolk DINAH MARKHAM Spouse: THOMAS BRIGHTON m: 07 APR 1800 Nacton, Suffolk SUSANNAH MARKHAM Spouse: JAMES GORAM m: 01 NOV 1813 Nacton, Suffolk SUSANNAH MARKHAM Spouse: ROBERT BAKER m: 24 SEP 1812 Nacton, Suffolk ROBERT MARKHAM Spouse: ELIZABETH ELMER OR HINER m: 29 MAY 1855 Nacton, Suffolk MARY MARKHAM Spouse: WILLIAM WHEATLEY m: 17 FEB 1801 Nacton, Suffolk AGNES MARSHALL Spouse: ROBT. STAMPORT m: 12 JUL 1562 Nacton, Suffolk ADAM MOONE Spouse: JOANE PECOCKE m: 11 DEC 1588 Nacton, Suffolk ALICE MOORE Spouse: LAWRENCE POOLEY m: 30 JAN 1569 Nacton, Suffolk ABIGAIL MOORE Spouse: BEN NORMAN m: 08 NOV 1683 Nacton, Suffolk JAMES MOOR Spouse: MARY BARBER m: 15 AUG 1824 Nacton, Suffolk ROBERT MOORE Spouse: ELIZABETH TOPPELS m: 23 AUG 1812 Nacton, Suffolk DOROTHY MORSE Spouse: THOS. KEMPSTER m: 28 JUL 1653 Nacton, Suffolk ROBT. MUNNINGS Spouse: MARY MAPLESTON m: 02 JAN 1689 Nacton, Suffolk THOMAS NEWMAN Spouse: JOHANNAH BARBER m: 22 JAN 1833 Nacton, Suffolk HEN PARTRIDGE Spouse: ELIZ CAPPS m: 24 APR 1634 Nacton, Suffolk ELIZ PAINE Spouse: JOHN KNOLDS OR KNOWLES m: 29 SEP 1627 Nacton, Suffolk THOS. PAINE Spouse: AMY BURDETT m: 20 APR 1637 Nacton, Suffolk ANN PAYNE Spouse: THOS. COLE m: 22 OCT 1618 Nacton, Suffolk AVICE PAINE Spouse: THOS. RANDALL m: 27 OCT 1587 Nacton, Suffolk MARY PAINE Spouse: FRAS. BALDERSTONE m: 03 FEB 1611 Nacton, Suffolk ANNES PEACOCK Spouse: ARCHD. WITTE m: 05 DEC 1577 Nacton, Suffolk MARGT. PEACOCK Spouse: HEN CABBALE m: 11 JAN 1609 Nacton, Suffolk JOANE PECOCKE Spouse: ADAM MOONE m: 11 DEC 1588 Nacton, Suffolk WILLIAM PIERCE Spouse: SUSAN BROWN m: 20 JUN 1830 Nacton, Suffolk LAVINIA PEARCE Spouse: JOSEPH POTTER m: 29 JUN 1864 Nacton, Suffolk THOMAS PEPPER Spouse: ANN BAKER m: 11 OCT 1786 Nacton, Suffolk SAMUEL PORTER Spouse: MARY ANNE FINCH m: 06 APR 1872 Nacton, Suffolk JOSEPH POTTER Spouse: LAVINIA PEARCE m: 29 JUN 1864 Nacton, Suffolk ELIZABETH POTTER Spouse: GEORGE COOK m: 11 APR 1862 Nacton, Suffolk LUCY PRENTICE Spouse: JAMES SMITH m: 01 JAN 1839 Nacton, Suffolk WM. PRENTICE Spouse: ELIZTH. BARBER m: 18 MAR 1822 Nacton, Suffolk WILLIAM PRENTICE Spouse: MARY ANN FINNEY m: 05 AUG 1849 Nacton, Suffolk CHARLOTTE ROSE Spouse: LEONARD DAWKINS m: 25 JAN 1866 Nacton, Suffolk RICD. ROUSE Spouse: EDEN READE m: 09 OCT 1587 Nacton, Suffolk ANN SCARLET Spouse: THOMAS WOODS m: 29 JUL 1790 Nacton, Suffolk DEBORAH JANE SCARLETT Spouse: JOHN CHAPMAN m: 19 SEP 1832 Nacton, Suffolk BRITTANNIA SCARLET Spouse: JOHN WORLLEDGE m: 29 MAR 1801 Nacton, Suffolk MARIANNE SCARLETT Spouse: JOHN KNIGHT m: 05 NOV 1837 Nacton, Suffolk JOHN SCARLETT Spouse: SARAH WHELDEN m: 15 APR 1827 Nacton, Suffolk JAMES SCARLETT Spouse: MARIA CORK m: 18 JAN 1831 Nacton, Suffolk ANN SCARLETT Spouse: JOSEPH CANDLER m: 26 APR 1792 Nacton, Suffolk SUSANNA SCARLETT Spouse: GEORGE GARNHAM m: 06 NOV 1848 Nacton, Suffolk THOS. SCOTT Spouse: AMY CROSSE m: 28 FEB 1609 Nacton, Suffolk JUDITH SCOTT Spouse: JOHN BRANDE m: 21 NOV 1614 Nacton, Suffolk ROBT. SCOTT Spouse: ALICE DIX m: 29 OCT 1594 Nacton, Suffolk JOSEPH HISCOCK SCOTT Spouse: RACHEL BIRD m: 31 JAN 1799 Nacton, Suffolk MARTHA SCUTT Spouse: LIONEL HAMMONDS m: 13 DEC 1595 Nacton, Suffolk ANN SIMMONDS Spouse: MATT SHERMAN m: 18 FEB 1633 Nacton, Suffolk GEO SPARKE Spouse: ANN WHICHT m: 21 JUN 1604 Nacton, Suffolk JANE STEBBING Spouse: EDW BRANDE m: 22 FEB 1628 Nacton, Suffolk WM. STYLES Spouse: SIMPSON m: 02 MAR 1702 Nacton, Suffolk JOHN TURNER Spouse: MARY COLE m: 12 MAR 1714 Nacton, Suffolk EDMUND TURNER Spouse: ELIZABETH BROKE m: 07 MAY 1795 Nacton, Suffolk SUSANNAH TURNER Spouse: CHARLES KEEN m: 04 NOV 1821 Nacton, Suffolk THOMAS TYE Spouse: MARY ANN BALDWIN m: 06 MAY 1817 Nacton, Suffolk ELIZ TYE Spouse: SAML. THURSTON m: 07 MAR 1685 Nacton, Suffolk MARY TYE Spouse: THOS. TOWTWOOD m: 24 MAY 1708 Nacton, Suffolk ELIZ WILSON Spouse: FRAS. BALDERSTONE m: 18 NOV 1708 Nacton, Suffolk JOANE WILSON Spouse: PETER PETERSON m: 30 DEC 1611 Nacton, Suffolk BEN WRIGHT Spouse: MARY FAIRES m: 26 AUG 1681 Nacton, Suffolk JOHN WRIGHT Spouse: MARY SMYTH m: 11 MAY 1828 Nacton, Suffolk WALTER WRIGHT Spouse: ELIZ HAMMERS m: 15 NOV 1613 Nacton, Suffolk JOHN YOUNG Spouse: ALICE GRIFFER m: 15 DEC 1661 Nacton, Suffolk ======================================================== [Comment]: ABIGAIL COLE Spouse: ROB BRAMWELL m: 28 SEP 1652 Nacton, Suffolk THOS. COLE Spouse: ANN PAYNE m: 22 OCT 1618 Nacton, Suffolk DANIEL DAY Spouse: MARY BEART m: 09 OCT 1807 Nacton, Suffolk COLE - BRAMWELL - PAYNE DAY - BEART: Probably Bird which I have said probably derives from BEARD (!!!). THOS. FARRAR Spouse: ALICE LOVE m: 26 MAY 1623 Nacton, Suffolk, FARRAR - LOVE: Remember this. ROBT. GRAVES Spouse: MARGT. WILKINSON m: 07 NOV 1650 Nacton, Suffolk GRAVES - WILKINSON (WILKERSON?): Should speak for itself. SIMON KEMP Spouse: ANN JOHNSON m: 09 SEP 1610 Nacton, Suffolk THOS. KEMPSTER Spouse: DOROTHY MORSE m: 28 JUL 1653 Nacton, Suffolk [What can I say ?.] ALICE KING Spouse: JOHN LONDON m: 08 NOV 1562 Nacton, Suffolk SARAH KING Spouse: THOS. HARRIS m: 10 MAY 1654 Nacton, Suffolk KING - LONDON - HARRIS: London can be added, but King and Harris will form a most interesting and important part in time to come, it has to. MARTHA MANNING Spouse: JOHN BROWN m: 19 OCT 1817 Nacton, Suffolk MARY MANNING Spouse: JOHN ROBERTSON m: 30 APR 1821 Nacton, Suffolk All of these must be noted, and Manning will form a huge part of associated families to the DDM/Collins trees. Add Manning wherever you see it. MARY MAPLESTON Spouse: ROBT. MUNNINGS m: 02 JAN 1689 Nacton, Suffolk *** *** ***: This makes me want to call half time or time out (!!!). Also make a separate list for top references of great note. Place this item on that list. This would be the same as MAPLISDEN mentioned in the New England (NE) records with ref. to one Tobias Markham about London etc. Also : [Joan Maplisden of Westminster m. William Markham]. [Joan Maplisden of Westminster Middlesex, whose kinsman John Lee (Administration to William Jackson), attorney for the husband William Markham]. [John Maplesden Archdeacon of Suffolk d:1613] [Archdeacon of Suffolk, Norwich, 1576-1613, Canon of 4th preb., Rochester, 1576-1613.] Peter Maplisden m: Jone Smith [Executor][Tobias Markham of St. Giles Cripplegate] [Maplezden, Maplizden, Maplleston, Maplisden, Maplesden, Mapelizden, Mapyllyden?] I clearly do not know at all if this is a DDM Markham line or not. The Markham surname is also written slightly differently, I don't have it at hand right now. There is also a NL Markham line close by, and would need further review. NEWMAN - BARBER ; PARTRIDGE - CAPPS ; PAYNE - COLE ; PAINE - RANDALL ; PEACOCK - WITTE (WHITE) ; PEACOCK - CABBALE (CHIBALL? from London name ?) ; PECOCKE - MOONE ; PIERCE - BROWN ; PEARCE - POTTER ; PEPPER - BAKER ; PORTER - FINCH ; POTTER - PEARCE ; POTTER -COOK ; PRENTICE - SMITH ; PRENTICE - BARBER ; SCARLETT - CORK (COOK?) ; SCOTT - BIRD ; SCUTT (SCOTT?) - HAMMONDS ; SIMMONDS - SHERMAN ; SPARKE - WHICHT (WRIGHT/WHITE?) ; STYLES - SIMPSON ; TURNER - COLE ; WRIGHT - SMYTH. Like I say, the pattern is huge. I can't point it all out ... ... ... ================================================================================ - S.K.M. - [!!!] =============================

MGC: Like the Noble Line of Markham, these Markhams were severely linked to certain several families like Strelley, Sutton, etc. Your Collins and DDM Markham families are the same for at least 1500 - 1800+, yes that far !!!. These families are still being extensively related back in Old England, as well as in New England, and then between. Markham is still aligning itself to these Collins and associated families in a big way. There is a large number of these important associated families here for what we are looking at, just a few here in no order: Cole, Haywood, Spink, Cotton, Turner, Prentice, Acton, Aldred (!!!), Ward, Porter (!!!), Wilson, Spark(e)s, Cripps, Graves (!!!), CLARKE CLARKE and CLARKE (!!!), King, Rose and Rose and Rose, Hales, Pierce, Moore, Smith, Stevens, Harrys, Bedel, Burde/Birde, Lanne, Stonard/Stonnard, Jackson, PORTER PORTER and PORTER (!!!), again, Webbe/Webber, Munnings, Alden, Bower, Allen, Mott, Swallow, Stebbing, Sheppard (!!!), Adams, HART(E) and HART(E) and HART(E), Cutting, Christmas, DANIEL/DANNEL, Lee, Wicks/Weeks, Wicke, LITTLE and LITTLE and LITTLE, DAY and GREENE (!!! !!! !!!), Reynolds, Browne, etc., to name a few. Also add SCARLETT, GRAY, BUTTON (!!! !!! !!!). Please make a list of these names and the ones I have pointed out from previous posts. Also a list for hotspot places. You won't be able to do these Markham and Collins trees without adding all of these families, once you do, you will start seeing the bigger picture I am seeing and find a lot more. At a glance, these Markhams of Marlesford + Campsey-Ash in Suffolk, could be yours. Nearby is also of note, Hacheston and Tunstall. Here I am giving out what would seem at first, the most excellent chance of one of your DDM surviving lines back in OE. I have only just noticed Hacheston and Tunstall is nearby. So it seems your line of DDM was using the A12 motorway quite a lot (?). http://www.phillipsplace.net/genealogy/ps02/ps02_424.html http://www.phillipsplace.net/genealogy/ps05/ps05_103.html [m:27-12-1738 William Clarke Elizabeth Spink Woolpit] As above: One must also add some hotspot places where there are few or no Markhams etc., since these places will hold much for related families and find some links of note, like this Clark - Spink marriage of huge note. Also: [William Spink m:12-11-1787 Elizabeth Marcom in Bardwell Suffolk] [Michael Spinke m:27-12-1663 Elizabeth Rose in Ipswich Suffolk] Correction to previous email: The Margaret Lan I spoke of is probably relating to the Lanne family instead. But my placement of that link remains unchanged. I would also currently say that the Markhams of Bardwell + Marlesford + Campsey-Ash Suffolk are clearly associated, and probably yours, until we know better. === Here is a trick to use a certain search engine: Go here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm#PageTitle Click on say Suffolk, then click on say Bardwell, M011943 (1651-1756), a new window will open up and in the top right field box the cursor should flash there or click once in the field box with your mouse. Don't type anything in, just press the Enter button once and leave it. The page will bring up all of the records '' ''it has'' '' for that location. It is this way you can get all the records for once church. but also see who else is there. It is this seeing who else is there that is making a huge difference. At the bottom of the page you can click on next to go to the next page etc. I go right through the whole lot picking out all of the immediate ones I can see. One will have to go back a few time to get more related surnames as they become known. Not all of the records are in, and then one can just go here to look further: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp I am using this a lot to find glaring patterns. Also in the aforementioned field box, you can just the surname you require and it will in most cases bring up the soundex results for a surname given. At this point in time, I do not know if the MARKIN/MARKN surname will have any further bearing to this DDM lineage, but I follow the path I am on and wherever it will take me. There are way too many things for me to point them out individually, so I will take time to put out some posts of info I have. You will also notice the Graves family going to come in back in OE. The COPPING here might COPPIN, and I suspect in some cases COLLINS might in some few cases be spelt COLLING etc. But if you look further for each person in case, you will find a better spelling to use. The current spellings for the DDM line seem to be: MARKHAM - MARKAM - MARCOM in OE. I am clearly in the right place for associated families, it just remains to be seen if we have the correct dna Markhams. We need know Suffolk and London Markhams. North Ockenden is place we must still go ... ... ... - S.K.M. - [!!!] ==================

MGC: This post is [Pure Speculation]. My one intention is to put out some patterns to follow. I can't write every item I have written of before, like precise places etc., but one can go back on my previous emails on the Markham-UK list and get that info. I find it difficult going back on some things. Takes too long. It seems that a whole chunk of large numbers of related families hopped out of England into NE + VA etc. http://www.bowyerfamily.org/rose/1.htm http://www.bowyerfamily.org/rose/17.htm We know that Thomas Rose from Exmouth in Devon came to Suffolk to a place near Ipswich in Suffolk ?. It is here at Elmswell in Suffolk you might find one Robert Rose m. Margery. This line of Rose comes into Branford + Wethersfield CT NE. You can notice the huge naming pattern of the children of Robert Rose. I can only assume Thomas Rose and Robert Rose are of very near kinship !. Assuming that to be correct, let us take look further: We know the Collins family of Bramford Suffolk is where the contingent of Collins we are concerned with were mainly born, but, not really from there, only there by association with the Acton family etc. This Collins family is in London L1 area and EC and Braintree, etc., and the epicentre given out. We know of one William Markham of Bardwell Suffolk which is close to Bramford Suffolk. There are quite a number of associated surnames found here in Bardwell, that is for sure. I will give some of these out when I can get to it. We know that nearly every single person married a relative, and so there must be a link through families into Bardwell or any other place and connection etc. And so father or son or brother or daughter, or thereabouts, would often show a link back into another associated family etc. But this link would also include say the m. of a Collins family into another family, and then that family was closely linked to the m. family say wife of a Markham. So there will be this married link between two focal point surnames. Or more simply put, through families of related spouses etc. William Markham m. Mary Caston of Bardwell Suffolk had a dg Elizabeth Marcom m. William Spink(e). The Spin(c)k(e) family clearly has a contingent of Spink in Ipswich Suffolk. But not only that .... Super Ken Says: 'Let it be Remembered Forever that': [Michael Spinke m:27-12-1663 Elizabeth Rose St. Mary Stoke, Ipswich, Suffolk]. Markham - Spink - Rose - (Collins + Acton of Bramford). This [William Markham Shopkeeper in Bardwell Suffolk m. Mary Caston] actually goes into Bramford Suffolk (!!!). He also has a son John Markham m:03-11-1794 Susan Watson in Bardwell Suffolk. I have so far 12 children for this William Markham. This WM does not necessarily have to be one of the DDM lineages, but from the marriage side, he is related. This WM is also being sought for connection to: [Ancestor of Tasmanian Markhams is Robert Markham (born 1740s) lived in village of Shotley, Suffolk, England] if any ?. The interesting thing here, is the 100 year still related !. This is obviously worth following through.... The Spink family in Bardwell also m. into Barrell family, and the naming pattern is unreal. In Bardwell are families of: Goff, Baldero, Goslin (Josselin), Daniel, Day, Finch, Coppin, Aldred, etc. For DDM at least, make very good note of Day and Finch, it will form a good part of your tree eventually either ways. Also Harrison and Haywood, Wheeler, Meade. Parker, Stebbing, all round. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ========================

MGC: [Jeane daughter of Abrm Markham and Alice Markham christened 14.2.1636.]: This currently as I am seeing it and will need further review, probably the same person as [m:1665 Joan MARKHAM & Robert ADAMS N Ockenden]. You can put it in with a single [?] on the link. http://books.google.com/books?id=KO1ceziscVgC&pg=PA675&dq=abraham+markham+colchester&hl=en&ei=rbU_TJ6lB5aM4gaB3szCCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=abraham%20markham%20colchester&f=false http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/result_details.asp?intOffSet=20&intThisRecordsOffSet=21 In and around EC and this area of research, there is going to be several NL Markham associated family names coming in it seems like Mortimer for instance, Saville, Neville, these are extensions of these families that have not been researched much yet at all. You can notice the m. of Elizabeth Franklyn of Middsx (Probably London) to John Cressener (1653-1715). This would be part of the Francklyn families of London no doubt. You can see the one link of Cressener to Russell to N. Ockenden and Earls Colne etc. So this Cressener should be related to the Collens family of London near Daniel Collins merchant of London via the Francklyn marriage there etc. The more I get into this saga, the : [m1:1603 John MARCUM & Elizabeth HARRIS Gt Burstead] [m2:1614 John MARCUMS & Alise LITTLE Gt Burstead] ... looks like it is going to connect up. They will be closely at the very least via Collins for one. I have already given out the epicentre for your Collins tree around Beauchamp Roding and Chickney etc. Here is one start to connect to this Little family in Gt. Burstead where several other related families will be found like Mott etc. [James Collin of Chickney hall in com. Essex m. Sarah da. of Jeffrey Little of Levenhall in com. Suff.]. Under 'Meade' should be your Collins: http://books.google.com/books?id=z0pbAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA23&dq=Henry+Collin+Chickney+Hall&hl=en&ei=m7xATI7AKdHB4gb0yb2-Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Henry%20Collin%20Chickney%20Hall&f=false http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/%5CViewCatalogue.asp?ID=152511 [18-01-1669: James Collin of Chickney s.& h. of James Collin s.& h. of John Collin s.& h. of Henry Collin. (to Evan Lloyd of Westminster, Gent. Manor of Chickney).]: Jas Collins sells the Manor of Chickney in 1669. He gives a full 4 gen. line of descent. That Abbot of EC probably connects to that of one of the sons of one of the Kings of England under the surname of Abbot (!!!). Must be ?. [NOTE]: Someone should interested in this one: = Smethdon Hundred: Bircham Magna' History of the County of Norfolk: Concealed lands granted an. 16th Elizabeth, April 10, to Edward Dyer, and Hugh Cressener, in the tenure of Thomas Baxtere. [***]. Rectors: 1583, Alexander Rawlyns, (fn. 2) by the Queen. 1608, John Hassell, by John Jay, Esq. afterwards dean of Norwich. 1639, Samuel Booty, by Richard Parmenter, Alderman of Norwich. [*** *** ***]. 1670, John Steares, by Thomas Bacon, Esq. and Nicholas Styleman, Esq. 1672, Alexander Booty, by Thomas Bacon, Esq. [*** *** ***]. 1705, Henry Bland, by Robert Walpole, Esq. Henry Bland. D.D. resigned in 1744. 1744, Hor. Hammond, rector, 1765, (prebend of Bristol,) by the Earl of Orford. = [1639, Samuel Booty, by Richard Parmenter, Alderman of Norwich.]: I suspect that this is part of the Booty connection to this line of Markham: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~phadgraft/familytree/pafg21.htm#395 I would truly like to know the 67 markers for line of William Markham !. Whilst the surname of 'Mary Caston' is given, Edmund Boldero m. Elizabeth Chason (!!!). This is a surviving line of Markham. This Boldero family curiously comes from Woolpit Suffolk (!!!). It seems the patterns are repeating themselves all over. There are a lot of associated families here that is for sure in Bardwell. Probably yours: http://books.google.com/books?id=woo8AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA248&lpg=PA248&dq=Collyn+Beauchamp+Roding&source=bl&ots=rOJRvISBIy&sig=6pOGx_TD1slMC_UeA8771N81K_w&hl=en&ei=SY5ATInpHZeK4gbEq-WpDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CC8Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&q&f=false DDM'ers: Make good note here: Puckle - Calthorpe - Booty etc. I have not read the rest of the chapters just yet. We must maybe include the MARKHAM-CASTON connection too, there is great chance this might be a surviving line of DDM'ers (!!!): http://www.wedmore.org.uk/puckle/Merchant3.pdf This Calthorpe connection would mean the DDM line would possibly be directly related to the MARCON/MARKHAM lines of Norwich (!!!). This would be part of the same Booty family coming into Bardwell I assume. You can get the rest of the items from reading the chapter 3. Puckle - Calthorpe - Rich(es) - Booty - Parmenter of close association here (!!!). Great connections to Yarmouth too. William Corbet lives in Broad Street London. Walter Bening. ['at the sign of the Dolphin in the City of Norwich']: I suspect this might be the 'Dolphin' rather ?. [Jerom Burton m.16-04-1581 Johane Warde at Saint Nicholas Colchester Essex] [Independent Church founded in Middlegate Street, Great Yarmouth]. Thomas Lodge, Sir [Lord Mayor London]: [Thomas Lodge, Gentleman ... William's first witness, Nicholas Markham, ironmonger of London, testified that Thomas 'was indebted to divers persons and for that he tooke no stayed ...]. This is most curious info: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=15170&strquery=Parker Great Tey, Calthorpe, Smith, Bacon, Stebbing, Little, Foster, Rogers (!!!). = 1659: For the County of Essex: Sir Richard Everard Baronet, Sir Henry Mildmay of Wansted, Sir Thomas Honywood, Kts; General Disbrow, Henry Mildmay of Graces, Robert Smith, Thomas Cook of Pebmarsh, Carew Mildmay, John Sparrow the elder, Francis St. John, Nathaniel Rich, Esqs; Colonel Salmon, Major Robert Mildmay of Ferling, Vice Admiral John Lawson, Christopher Earl, Dudley Templer, Henry Wright, Esqs; Col. George Crompton, Herbert Pelham, Robert Bragg of Hatfield Peverel, John Brewster, Peter Whetcomb, Gobart Barrington, William Harlackenden of Earles Colne, Esqs; Capt. Rayner, Mr. Stephens of Malden, Col. Richard Ashfield, Major Hezekiah Haynes, Mr. Shawe of Colchester, Mr. Goldsborough, Augustine Garland, Esq; Sir Thomas Bowes, Mr. Thomas Peeke, Andrew Furmantle, and Edward Turner, Esqs. For the County of Norfolk: Lieutenant General Fleetwood, Sir Horatio Townsend Baronet, Sir Ralph Hare, Sir John Palgrave, Sir William Doyley, Baronets; Major Gen. Philip Skippon, William Henningham, Edward Ward, Robert Wood, Brampton Gurdon, Robert Long, Robert Brewster, Robert Gawsel, John Sedley, Thos. Weld, Samuel Smith, Robert Jermy, John Burman, Charls George Cock, Edward Bulwer, Ralph Woolmer, Thomas Day, John Colson, Thomas Utber, Henry King, Nicholas Salter, Robert Swallow, Richard Brown, Will. Stewart, Barnard Church, William Barnham, John Man, Robert Doughty, Samuel Prentice. Richard With, Thomas Shreeve, William Burton, Isaac Wreston, Thomas Toll, Thomas Lincoln, Joshua Green of Lyn, William Life, Esqs; Major Thomas Spensley, Capt. Nicholas Bell, John Ballaston, Francis Waller, Capt. Warner, Leonard Gooch, Violet Benton, Richard Cubit, William Style, Augustine Thrower, Thomas Ely, William Emperor, Robert Brown, Sir Edward Barkham Knt. and Baronet, Thomas Drury Esq; James Tennant Gent., William Arnop of Fleg, Thomas Bendish, William Gore, Thomas Garret, John Shildrake senior, and Major Hezekiah Hayns. For the City and County of the City of Norwich: William Davy Esq Major; Erasmus Earl Sergeant at Law, Recorder; Charls George Cock Esq Steward; Adrian Parmenter, Thomas Barret, John Raley, Edmond Bournam, Barnard Church, William Burnham, John Man, Thomas Toft, Samuel Puckle, Esqs; Thomas Ashwel Alderman; Henry King Esq; Nicholas Salter, Richard Swallow, John Toft, Richard Ket, John Knight, George Stewart, John Balderston, Thomas Everard, Nicholas Poynter, Timothy Norwich. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=56644 = The [Parker + Rogers] family in Notts might be of the same families we are dealing with. East Markham, curiously, is just part of the pattern. This 'Day' family is connected too, also: King(e), Swallow (?), Garret, Long, Smith, Man, Prentice, Toft, Hayns, Palgrave, Turner, Puckle, etc. The military aspect is missing etc. This 'Church' family of EC just about that's all. I 'think' it was Roger Harlakenden who was involved with the 'Horse' in Yorks or thereabouts etc. Up thaddaways anyways. [Richard Harlackenden, William Harlackenden, Barnard Church, William Barnham, John Mann, Thomas Toft, Samuel Puckle]: Add Calthorpe and Cory and Collins about. The Four Acts: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=56427 http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=56322 http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=56644 Out of EC, I would like to at least single out in the arena of [Richard Harlackenden] for a point of note without a reason. [Richard Harlackenden, William Harlackenden, Barnard Church, William Barnham, John Mann, Thomas Toft, Samuel Puckle]. Looking at the 4Acts, the theme runs as raising money, fighting, and then the settling of the military. It might be under the last clause? that you more than likely find the Col. Edm. Markham who comes back to Earls Colne and lives with Abraham Markham and EM dies not too long after. Bardwell is certainly one excellent choice for a connection to a DDM lineage back in England to pursue further. It has the Booty name and also goes back into Bramford too. Bardwell at the very least, has quite a number of associated families living there. This line of Markham of Bardwell either is or isn't. Maybe US researchers can look into it further.... Problems with DDM research: I do not know what surname I am under as yet, but: Markham - Markam - Marcum - Marcom - Marke. Nearly all of these people are excessively of near kin. Daniel Markham of EC would more than likely come out to NE with his uncle Edward Collins who would have had his own ship at least, and was a merchant. Surname Scarlett too. And so on .... - S.K.M. - [!!!] ==================

MGC: [Speculative Post]: I want to go into my next phase of this search for Markham. I am waiting to see which is the next list I am going to join up on. It should be Prentice at least. +R- you might want be on the MARKHAM-UK list if not already to follow posts I won't be sending to this list. Follow me wherever I go. To DDM'ers, make sure to keep this page for Prentice etc. http://www.prenticenet.com/news/2001/henry_prentice_wigenhall_england.htm [m:1668 Elizabeth MARKHAM & Daniel YEOMAN Gt Totham]. Here I clearly do not know at all just yet, but ... ... I am going to place this one as ''probably'' the same person as the dg of Abraham? Markham of Earls Colne (EC) with a full [???] on the link. The Prentice family is clearly connected to Great Totham in Essex, and for some time it seems. Elizabeth Markham would be going there more than likely via a Prentice family connection. We will be going into whole sets of completely different name patterns compared to the NL Markhams lines. These would eventually become the standard naming patterns and one would get used to them like old hat, one day ... This connection here looks about right. TL is perfect. I suspect the url for Prentice family is going to be the correct Prentice dna family line so far. We will find that in the region of grandchildren still being closely connected to grandchildren from another line etc. This would be close for it to be like that. Close family ties. Nothing unusual about that I suppose. In the last week I have put out that the names of Valentine - Daniel - Clement - even Nicholas and Susan, are fine for this arena. There was a Bishop Valentine I think. Here we go: Abraham Markham m. Alice Turner [EC], her father was Clement Turner [EC], her sister Elizabeth Turner [EC] and ET m. John Prentice. John Prentice's parents are Valentine Prentis of [Felstead Essex] b:1561 and d:1605 and his wife is Marie Luke of [Felstead Essex] m:15-01-1585 at [Felstead, Essex, England] it seems. This [Valentine Prentis 1561] dies in 1605. His father is given to be [John Prentis b:1540 d:1597] + mother [Elizabeth Harrod]. This [Valentine Prentis 1561] has THE son [Valentine Prentis b:02-1598/9 d:1633] who m. [Alice Bredda]. [Valentine Prentis b:02-1598/9 d:1633] dies in 1633 in [Roxbury MA]. [!!!]. [Valentine Prentis 1561] + [Elizabeth Harrod] also have a son [Daniell Prentice of Felstead Essex]. You can look the rest up etc. and so on.... For this Prentice family any connection to Great Totham would be huge (!!!). === For now, using this Prentice tree, one can make maybe as a focal starting point like Collens tree, to [Wigenhall Norfolk] which is near King's Lynn. The immediate Prentice line is in Felstead Essex. I do not know the exact primary record, but the [Francis Prentice Felstead Essex b:05-1605] is either in the correct place or dg of the son John Prentice ?. [John Prentis] the elder d:1597 it seems, so she would then be dg of JP the Jnr ?. I don't know to what extent this will apply further here just yet, if the case at all ?. This Collens and Markham and Prentice trees will have these far apart naming marriage connections at first it seems. There is also a large Bacon-Ward connection it seems about this TL. At this TL, the Prentice family is going into London, and to Collens and Prentice and even Buntinge to Earls Colne etc. Remember Buntinge a bit too... [21-06-1635: Clement Prentice of Stoke Ash Suffolk, yeoman, to Richard Pretyman of Narford, Gent., on property in Stoke Ash, Braiseworth and Thornham in Suffolk.] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=hendersonscholes&id=I20780 With these Valentine Prentiss you with also find a connection to Black Notley a huge Collens domain. Or thereabouts .... [Exception Note]: There has to be a much greater all round connections to CLARK (!!! !!! !!!) etc. === Title: ''Who killed Who, and let that be the Question'', or alternatively placed as, ''A Day in the Life of John Collens'': [Specs]: I must just end off by saying the following: I still feel the need to come back here again. I gave the texts out in my last posts. >From here immediate, I need to go back and check my notes: I did say that the John Collens Goldsmith of London had a son John Collens (!!!). [COLLINS John Braintree, killed in Bocking by Jn Noke 1565]***. [NOKE John Stisted, 23, killed Jn Collins in fight 1565]***. [277. Taken on 13 December 7 Eliz., at Braintree, before Thomas Knott, coroner, on view of the body of John Noke, aged 23 years. The jurors seek a day until 30 March at Chelmsford. the jurors say that in windmill field, 12 Dec., John collins of Braintree was at Bicking in the house of William Garett about the business of Thomas Collins his father. Then came John Noke of Stisted and they quarrel about some words spoken by John collins about John Noke earlier. And Noke said: `Thowe boye use the wespon yf thowe be a man as thowe boastest thieself for I will fight with the and be revenged of me. Praye the content thyself and a touchinge the malice thowe beareat me from last playing together att the backword play ... 1 praye the forget for I tell the for my parte from henaforth I will have nothing to do with the. But if thow will be a good fellow and go drink I Will give yt the'. Neverthelese they fought. John Collyns murdered John Noke. Date From 1563-1564.] ***: This must be a website typing error (!). The primary ref. clearly states : [''John Collyns murdered John Noke'']. After reading this again (and again !!!), this [John Collyns] living 1564 and son of ['Thomas Collins his father'], and of great note, ['of Braintree'], already, ... , quite probably sways to the Thomas Collins Alderman of London near in actually in Old Broad Street etc. Cheers - S.K.M. - [!!!] ===================

MGC: The realization of Drake will have quite some impact on the area of this tree no doubt. +-R your tree is going to be very high in stature, and one must consider Bishops, several of them, associations to even Presidents, Drake (!!!), place of Padua, surgeons, several Bishops came from the weaving industry etc., waterways into inland England, and all the way up those rivers, like London, Earls Colne, up by Yarmouth, Devon, Somerset, Ipswich, Colchester, etc. I am going to place names of note like this one to be noted: [Jennings!!!]. This [Rich Haiward] of EC should relate to the one [Haiwood] in Colchester: [1713 Elizabeth MARKHAM & Edward HAIWOOD Colchester All Saints]. This possibly means that there is at least one surviving DDM line coming out from Colchester to after 1700. Dale, Artes, the World: I need to know who this Elizabeth Markham is (!!!). I can now see a clear connection of several families to Devon (!!!). A lot of people here in EC have become extremely closely related and to DDM lines. [Rich Hayward, [EC] m. [Tabitha Maninge]. This surname will equate to [Mannings] or similar, which is also Drake related and will include [Robert Muninges of Hethersett Norfolk]. [Jn Pennifather deceased Joan Adams his daughter wife of Wm Adams vicar of Earls Colne is his executrix]. To DDMers: You will seriously want to start adding all of the associated families to any surname around the Abrm Markham of EC, i.e., Prentice, Adhams, Andrews, Potter, Turner, Heywood, Abbott, Bowles, every Collins, Martin, Harris(son), Litle, Man, Hatch, Allen, Cook, Jennings, Smith, etc. I can't name them all. It is said that Captain Thomas Cook was probably b. in Earls Colne. This Hatch family of EC will be related to he DDM line via m. This Allen family is a truly large family to follow that is clear. Your DDM is probably related to Harlakenden in several close marriage ties. One must clearly note what is on this 'Diary of RJ' website. Several of these families will connect to Devon around place names I have already given out. This is not a small tree, it is huge with many many branches to follow. Wods !!!. *** ***: You might recall one side note of mine: [Edward Collins of Medford, attorney of Miss Mary Cooke of the Parish of Martins-in-the-Fields, to John Rolph (Rolfe) of Nantucket Island.]. Not sure, but she might be the wife of [Samuel Annesley, Esq. of Westminster] who was [1662: Ejected from St. Giles, the Foes follow him out of Anglican church to become a non-conformer]. There seems to be this Cook - Wilcox - Briggs - Cory connections. The [Parker] family of EC must connect I suppose too. Possibly for Thomas Markham lineage: It can be noted that the Greenleaf family coming into NE in MA is from one Edmund Greenleaf from Devon. They connect to the Gookin? family there too. The Greenleaf family is also supposed to be in Colchester too, and possibly Ipswich ?. The Thomas Markham and Susan Greenleaf of VA was it ?, some mention of food for thought was that there might be some connection to John Rolf there (Woolf ?). The Greenleaf family, as one might expect now in this arena, is possibly from France. This surname ''might'' also be spelt ''Greenhough'' ?. From the St. Mary Woolnoth church in London register there is: [1609 May 6. John Greenehocke, of St. Margaret, New Fish Strete, and Johan Rolfe, of this Parish, servant to Mr. Herringhooke.] Here one John Greenleaf/Greenhough (?) m. Jane Rolfe in 1609. The TL is excellent for some further meaning. In the early 1600 and later on, French Huguenots came to England etc. Some notes: John Rolfe, Planter [Nantucket-Newberry-Camb-VA] m. Mary Scullard and had with others Rebecca Rolfe who d. in [Medford, MA]. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MARKHAM-UK/2009-01/1230863375 http://www.scribd.com/doc/28425271/Cooke-Genealogy Above: The very long Cook and Joslen connection etc. in London etc. This Sir Thomas Cook connects to Gidea Hall, and primary residence at St. Peter le Poer London (!!!). http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~albgenealogy/Wilcox/borpafg02.htm I do not know, but [Bayles] might be Bales, Upshaw might also be Upchur? back in England ?. This [Church] family of EC must be noted (!!!). Several persons of interest might be found in the 'Register of Scholars admitted to Colchester School' (?). The Goldsmiths of London in this L1 area must all be noted and listed. The John Collins Goldsmith of London should be yours +-R (!!!). He is yours. This ''Friday Street'' in London must be noted whenever you see it. It will have further meaning to your tree. I might be a church there, but also people living in that street to be noted further. We truly do require a proper list of all the mayors and aldermen of London, and the one to note as well, is one Sir Martin Bowes Alderman of London. The surname of Martin must be noted all round too. [1548: Pacyence, daughter of Martyn Bowes, son of the said Sir Martyn Bowes, Citizen & Goldsmythe of London.] The NL Markhams are not far away at all. This would be the Markhams of Northamptonshire line of fame going under the name M'CUM. [1655? John Wilson and Alice Bailey, both of the Parish of St. Mary Woolnoth.] *** *** [1656 Nov. 11. Martin Smith, of the Parish of St. Mary Woolnoth, and Elizabeth Markham, of the Parish of St. Buttolph, Bishopsgate.] [1580 Feb. 26. Bridgitt, daughter of John Collins, Goldsmythe.] [1584 Sep. 29. John, son of John Collyns, Goldsmythe.] This should be yours +-Rs (!!!). This is a good one for the TL given. This John Collyns Goldsmith must be in the region of first cousin to the John Collens 'Salter of London', and also one Thomas? Collens Alderman nearby. *** [1607 May 25. John Collins and Elizabeth Andrewe.]: Not sure if this m. is the one we might be looking for just yet ?. And one day after: [1607 May 26. William Brigges and Anne Newton.] [1619 Mar. 30. A Crisome child of John Acton's, Goldsmith.] [1601 Aug. 16. John, son of John Acton, Goldsmith.] [1604 Nov. 18. Elizabeth, daughter of John Acton, Goldsmith.] [1609 Sep. 20. Thomas, son of John Acton, Goldsmith.] [1613 Mar. 20. Jane, daughter of John Acton, Goldsmith.] [1615 Blandyne, daughter of John Acton, Goldsmith.] [1617 Thomas, son of John Acton, Goldsmith.] [1631 Aug , Mary, daughter of John Acton, Goldsmith.] [1632 June 13. Elizabeth, daughter of John Acton, Goldsmith.] [1634 Feb. 22 Isobell?, son of John Acton, Goldsmith.] [1631 April 19. Reginald Forster, of the Inner Temple, and Blandina Acton, of St. Mathewe, in Friday Streete, by licence.] [1639 May 2. Sir Henry Skipwith, of Coats, Leicestershire, Knight and Baronett, and Blandina Acton, of St. Mathew, Friday Streete, Widdow, by licence.] [169? Thomas Harrington, of Acton, Middlesex, Batchellor, and Elizabeth Andrews, of this Parish, Spinster, by banns.] [1602 Elizabeth, daughter of John Acton, Goldsmith.][Buried] [1610 Thomas, son of John Acton, Goldsmith.][Buried] [???? Emme, wife of John Acton, Goldsmith.] [1614 Francis, wiffe of John Acton, Goldsmith.][Buried] [1619 Mar. 30. A Crisome child of John Acton's, Goldsmith.][Buried] [1631 Mar. 13. Mary, daughter of John Acton, Goldsmith.] [1604 Feb. 24. Mary, daughter of William Rolphe, Goldsmith.][Bapt.] [1670 June 11, 1674. Thomas, son of Sir Robert Markham, Baronet, and the Lady Mary, his wife, borne June 1, baptized by Mr. Williams, of St. Mildred, Poultrie.]: NL Markham lineage. [1656 *** Nov. 11. Martin Smith, of the Parish of St. Mary Woolnoth, and Elizabeth Markham, of the Parish of St. Buttolph, Bishopsgate.] [1659? Jan. 19. John Jesse and Elizabeth Woolf, of St. John Baptist Parish.] [Philadelphia Cotton alias Lynch, wife of Thomas Cotton. Esq.]: There is going to be enormous ''crossing over'' of different dna Markhams lines no doubt. This GODDARD family is already a while in London, more than likely the same direct family into which the Archbishop William Markham m. Sarah Goddard, also a Goddard merchant family of London. What is both curious and extreme here, is the pure connection to Cotton - Vere - Goddard (!!! !!! !!!). CHRIM: Crisome: Meaning 'Cream' maybe 'Oyle', used to anoint a child by a Bishop with maybe a cloth over its head ?. Seems to be babies annointed by Bishops (!!!). http://books.google.com/books?id=w8dPAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA117&dq=meaning:+crisome&hl=en&ei=dR85TObaCdvNjAf_xoHtAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=meaning%3A%20crisome&f=false The one extreme chance is that Martha Collins of EC's bapt. record might have been in St. Leonard's in London, which was all burnt in the fire of London. Another thought: http://books.google.com/books?id=BiQkAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA30&lpg=PA30&dq=John+Collyns+Great+Marlow&source=bl&ots=L0QRcrpiZq&sig=ntFA21eEruqqV41gbqWRaVwbjMI&hl=en&ei=H4o5TPD8Bsq6jAfp_bn9Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=John%20Collyns%20Great%20Marlow&f=false http://hiwaay.net/~paul/shakspere/shakwill.html Can't recall my exact email, but I did mention maybe Collins was it ???, being connected to the ''Globe'' in London. I didn't know they had electricity in those days !!!. No wonder it took like 50 people to change a ''Globe''. Not sure if this is yours, but add it for further review. There is also one Shakespeare in EC. [Francis Collyns, the Stratford solicitor], [1616, Shakespeare summoned his lawyer Francis Collins], [... The whole Will is in fact in the handwriting of Francis Collyns, the Warwick solicitor]. Sounds like one of yours +R- ?. [Ralph Josselyn, knight, mayor of the city of London, John Markham.]: This will be the early Ralph Joslen and connects to the one famous Judge Sir John Markham who connects here to the trial of Sir Thomas Cooke. It was from this trial he was asked to leave his position as Judge. *** *** *** *** *** [Nicholas Markham of St. Dunstan m:04-02-1584 Alice Muninges in St. Dunstan, Stepney, Middlesex, England.]: I have some single obscure note that one Nicholas Markham pops into EC. Can we find out more on these persons here ?. The William Markham 'Marchant of Ipswich' m. Abigail Markham is the same person it seems as [Ipswich Borough archives, 1255-1835: a catalogue - Page 216 David Allen, David H. Allen - 2000 - 611 pages: C/3/3/2/60 1632-1633 William Markham, Robert Harvy, Chamberlains Includes:- memorandum re fines levied on brewers for delivering beer to unlicensed alehouse keepers, and laid out in poor relief...]. [A winged lion sejant Or circled round the head. Argent supporting a lyre Or. (Markham, Markant, of Ipswich. A. Davy, St. Peter's church.)]. He is a chamberlain and ale merchant. Their TL is about the same as Jas Markham of EC, but I think I am going to put this on in 10th place for now. [Nicholas Collin, Black Notley, yeoman. Will 1586-1587.]: This might be yours too +R-, and the name of Nicholas is around, also Valentine ?. [1584 Sep. 29. John, son of John Collyns, Goldsmythe.]: This JC has a son JC. . === COLLEN John High Laver gmn, his poultry stolen COLLINS John Braintree, killed in Bocking by Jn Noke 1565 COLLYN John Barling, accused of a disorderly house &c 1598 COLLYN John London goldsmith, extortion from Jn Fynche 1572 NOKE John Stisted, 23, killed Jn Collins in fight 1565 GRICE Nicholas Alphamstone rector, evidence against Jn Collyn NOKE Robert Hatfield/bd/O gmn, threw Franke from his pew 1564 LEWYKIN Prudence Takeley, w of Revd Robt, aided Collyn disseisin LEWYKIN Robert Takeley vicar, disseised Wm Collyn 1563 NYCOLLS George Sat as justice at Braintree 1574 re Thos Bedell PAM Edward Alphamstone gmn, evidence against Jn Collyn GREY Henry Sat as justice at Braintree 1574 re Thos Bedell HARVEY Francis Sat as justice at Braintree 1574 re Thos Bedell MEADE Thomas Sat as justice at Braintree 1574 re Thos Bedell MORRICE James Sat as justice at Braintree 1574 re Thos Bedell MOUNSON Robert Sat as justice at Braintree 1574 re Thos Bedell HUDSON William Halstead clothier, surety for Hercules Turner 1592 MEDCALFE Isaac Halstead glover, surety for Hercules Turner 1592 SALMON William Copford Turner, stole hawks from Jn Stokes 1575 TURNER Thomas Earles Colne weaver, surety for Hy Wright TURNER Valentine Writtle ymn, surety for Hugh Barker 1602 TURNER William Halstead weaver, fr of Hercules, disorderly too PRENTICE John Colne Engaine ymn, extortion from Jn Fynche 1572 PRENTICE Stephen Romford smith, in 1584 burglary (E of Arundel) === [John Haynes Harrison, of Copford Hall, Essex]: The Collins family also seems to connect here back in EN. [Level: Fonds HAYNES and HARRISON Families of Copford Hall : Admission : John Aylett of Bocking, clothier, on surrender of Samuel COLLINS, Doctor of Medicine, and brother John COLLINS Parcel of waste at Susans Green, copyhold of manor of BRAINTREE Steward: John Attwood, esquire.]. The New England (NE) Haynes and Harrison families connect here to it seems. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ========================

I am looking for someone with the email address of gennut777@roadrunner.com I have some genealogy information I found online posted by her that connects to my 4th great Grandpa Zacharial Collins. I would like to share information about our family. fawn

MGC: [Last Note]: [John Drake of Ashe, Exmouth Devon, m. Margaret Cole dg and heiress of John Cole of Rill, Parish of Whytecombe Raleigh near Exmouth in Devon. He settled first at Exmouth and by a law-suit recovered Ashe.]. Thomas Rose from Exmouth Devon had a dg Abigail Rose of Exmouth Devon who m3. John Collins the Sailcloth Maker of Bramford Suffolk (!!!). This John Collens (Collins) had several offspring including the Daniell Collins, Merchant of Broad Street London who m. Sybill Francklyn of London etc. (!!!). His brother was the Samuell Collins, Deacon and Vicar of Braintree Essex. As the Markham would know by now, one would think, the Francklyn goldsmiths and Collins goldsmiths etc., are all living exceptionally close to each other and related etc. The John Collens of Bramford Suffolk is directly associated with the Acton family who became well known there. What can I say ... ... ... - S.K.M. - [!!!] ========================== Sometimes my Mind Wanders, And then it leaves completely... ==========================

http://www.archive.org/stream/ancestorsofrevwi00baco/ancestorsofrevwi00baco_djvu.txt S.K.M.

MGC: John Acton, Goldsmith of London, m3. Blandina dg of John Penvin of Badgwoth Somerset and had 5 kids. He also m:1611 to Frances dg of Francis Gavell of Cobham Surrey and has issue, and also m1:abt1600 to Emme dg of Richard Turner of Tarvin in Chester and had issue. So JA had m3 and issue from each one. Blandina dg of John Penvin was also m. to Henry Skipwith. This John Acton is the son of Thomas Acton who m. Jane Pollor. Here is something interesting: This John Acton Goldsmith of London's parents are Thomas Acton and Jane Pollor [Merington Worcs], and his parents are William Francis Acton [Acton Hall Elmley] and Elizabeth Dudmasonn [Acton Hall Elmley], and his parents are William Acton [Acton Hall Elmley] and Freya Princess of the Swedes from Sweden. One item that caught my eye was one Mr. John Action a Military Colonist of Roanoke, an early arrival there for about one year about 1586-7 (?) or so. [Sp. 'ACTION']. You can read on it on the net. I clearly do not know if he an ACTON. But he is associated with Sir Francis Drake and possibly a Master of a ship ?. We can see that one line of Acton is very high stature. Not just that: John Drake of Winsdor: http://www.xroyvision.com.au/drake/history/hist33.html [The will of Philippa Drake, which appears in print, names both William and Acton, in the same line! She bequeathed to "my son Acton Drake and William Drake and my daughter Joan, now the wife of Robert Collyns, gent., a ring of gold with a death's head, each of value 26s, 8d" (Frank B. Gay, The Descendants of John Drake of Windsor, CT [Rutland, VT., 1933] p. xv).]: We know a line of Collens and Acton are quite closely related. Here above we find the Drake family using Acton as a first name. Waters: http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/henry-f-henry-fitz-gilbert-waters/genealogical-gleanings-in-england-parts-i-xxiiixxv-volume-1-eta/page-89-genealogical-gleanings-in-england-parts-i-xxiiixxv-volume-1-eta.shtml [Francis Drake of Esher died 17 March 1633. He was the son of Richard Drake of Esher, equerry to Queen Elizabeth. John Drake (son of his cousin William) who was in New England in 1633, was probably the John who came here in 1630 and finally settled in Windsor Conn. where he died 17 Aug. 1659. The Johanna Hooker named as being in New England, was probably Joanna, daughter of Rev. Thomas Hooker of Hartford Conn. who married Rev. Thomas Sheppard of Cambridge Mass.] This [Salmon] surname a few days ago when looking into Colchester area etc., there is an alias surname into [Salmon], can't remember what it was from right now(!!!). Wood and Ward families (!!!). Clackton (Clacton) in Essex: This one of the 3-4 places I have just mentioned recently in Essex that pertains to the main Collens tree I have just pointed out to be +-R's tree etc. Here again we are back to this Griggs and Greene and William + Abigail Markham ale Marchant of Ipswich England. This Markham of Ipswich will be related as I have said. And with a wife named Abigail, it is almost a foregone conclusion ?. Is she a Ward ?. Even in Myland there one Ward family there too. Anyway, this web page must be kept for future ref. ***: I have to mention that is there not a Fitz-wauter in or around Colchester ?. There is, ... ... ... , I think, not one John??? Markham alias Walter? around Colchester ?. The place name is probably here again meant to be Bramford in Suffolk, probably confused by the writer with the family surname of Bamford no doubt.... It is the slip of the pen after having so many people surnamed Bamford around the text. The Wheeler family will be related it seems back in EN. Stiles too. http://www.webpak.net/~cdm2/kimball/pafg175.htm [Some Notes]: Now there seems to a COLLENS (Collyns) family in and about Wiscombe Devonshire (!!!). Mr. Wright m. Collens Drake in Wiscombe Devonshire. [COLLENS]. Robert Collyns b:1588 Wiscombe Devonshire m:1621. (England) Joan Drake b:1592 Wiscombe Devonshire. This all puts a slightly different perspective to what I am looking at ... ... ... - S.K.M. - [!!!] ==================== "I sometimes wonder how many people can actually sit back and consider how lucky one can be to experience a Human life on Earth? To be able to have one chance to see the Universe and wonder about it. Can you imagine a Universe without Life, nothing would know it was even there at all !!!". S.K.M. ====================

MGC: Acton (5Meg pdf): http://www.sothebys.co.uk/images/home/flash/shrubland/ShrublandFamilyTree.pdf You can see the Buxton connection again, this Fowle surname comes in, and Greene (!!!), Bowes, Lee, etc. - S.K.M. - [!!!] ===============

Hello Collins Cousins, Back in 1826 in Augusta County, Va. There was one Collandra Collins That Married One Fountain Campbell, We have very good INFORMATION from there to Now on Their Descendants. OUR Brick wall is who was The Father of CUZ Fountain Campbell. Just hoping that there Just Might Be a Chance that there is A Clue as to the Name of CUZ Fountain Campbell's Father. SOME times the Other family has Records that the First Family Does not Have THANKS CUZ A T _atpowelljr@aol.com_ (mailto:atpowelljr@aol.com)

Check the Stephen Collins, son of Stephen Collins of Estill County, KY. He married Nancy Wyatt in Estill County. I have his ancestry. Charles -----Original Message----- From: collins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:collins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Pearson Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:35 PM To: COLLINS@rootsweb.com Subject: [COLLINS] Stephen Collins b. 1802 Kentucky I believe Stephen Collins who was born somewhere in Kentucky may have married his first wife also from Kentucky and moved to Henry County, Illinois (near Weller)where daughters, Emiline b. 1841 and Clarissa, b. 1834 as well as other children were born to the couple. I'm not sure if Clarissa was actually a sister but the two women married their respective spouses within a few days of one another, and are shown living in close proximity all of their married lives. Clarissa married an Irishman named Luke Carrigan and Emiline married an Italian immigrant by the name of John Thomas Belt. The women's mother (my gggrandmother) may have died around 1848-49 as Stephen married Ann Fenn (b. 1830 in Illinois) in Henry County Illinois in 1849. The Belts, The Carrigans and Stephen and Annie Collins along with several children all removed by covered wagons to Jackson Twp, Macon County, Missouri around 1866 where they lived out their lives. Emiline passed away in 1876 and her husband J! ohn Belt is said to have later married her younger sister, Nancy (Jane) Collins who was born in 1850 in Illinois. I cannot find an 1850 or 1860 Census for a Stephen Collins from Kentucky, living in Illinois where all his children were born. If anyone has information of knowledge on this family, I would appreciate hearing from them. Emiline Collins was my great-great grandmother and I would like to trace this line but have so little to go on. BE SURE YOU CHECK ALL OF YOUR SUBJECTS ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COLLINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message