This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Colby Felton Haddon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wQJ.2ACEB/652.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: In response to Mr. Greene's note: It is important for all of us to note phrases like "highly probable origin" and "circumstantial" in Mr. Greene's note. While I have approached the parentage of the Anthony Colby under discussion with an open mind, many seem to have decided his parentage based solely upon some articles in various genealogical journals, which, with all due respect, are of course not infallible. I will post the proof documents that I discover as we move forward in this discussion. By the way, what is the proof for the birth date that many use for Anthony Colby that is after 1588? I know that Glade Nelson and other based their opinions upon the supposition that Anthony was too old to perform his trade, marry and father children if he had been born before 1588. This is of course purely that author's opinion. When we find an Anthony Colby baptized in Beccles and one baptized in Horbling, it becomes more difficult to discern which is which. Especially when both have fathers names Thomas. Of course some have an investment in what they have previously published and may tend to stick to those views no matter what is found and presented for review. I hope that we can all maintain an open mind as we move toward proving the ancestry of Anthony Colby. We have a moral obligation to do so, both as amateur and professional genealogists. Best regards, Clarence Burton Bagby

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wQJ.2ACEB/652.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: The highly probable origin of Anthony Colby of Amesbury is provided by John Brooks Threlfall in his _Fifty Great Migration Colonists to New England and Their Origins_ (Madison, WIsc., 1990), 121 ff. He shows that the immigrant was the Thomas Colby baptized on 8 Sept. 1605 in Horbling, Lincolnshire, son of Thomas and Ann (Jackson) Colby. Threlfall does not provide a ldiscussion of the evidence, which is in part circumstantial, but a valuable discussion is in Robert Charles Anderson, _The Great Migration Begins_, 1:416; Bob Anderson (who is one of my Coeditors of _The American Genealogist_ [TAG]) accepts Threlfall's identification. As happy as I am to have Glade Nelson's TAG article praised, I must point out, in justification to both Glade and TAG, that it is improper to post an entire article (or substantial portion) online without permission of the author and the journal. Facts, of course, are a different matter. DAVID L. GREENE, FASG Coeditor and publisher _The American Genealogist_ [TAG]

Greetings, Colby-kin, I finally broke down and bought Second Site, as my TMG-created webpages, although split by progenitor and generation, were still becoming too large and unwieldy. I still have to experiment with all the bells and whistles of the new program to get the site just as I want it. I have changed the name from "Relations of Steven G. Levine" to "Ancestors and their Descendants," both of which are distinctly lacking in Pizzazz. Maybe I'll just name it "A Bunch o' Dead People." Anyway, the site contains 1171 Colbys, which you will find indexed at http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~solongago/i4.htm#169 . See what you think, and think what you see. Although I cite Ron Colby's site on many if not most of the listings, I shouldn't have referenced the specific page numbers, as they change so frequently. I will correct this eventually. Please point out any errors, or descendants who should be added. Thanks. Steve.. INFP

Bob It's John Colby s/o Timothy Colby and Hannah Blaisdell His age should be 53 Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocco" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 7:58 AM Subject: [COLBY] Colbys in Amesbury Found this website with a list of a few Colbys buried in Union Cemetery, Amesbury, MA. Includes inscriptions and photos of gravestones. Have a nice Memorial Day. http://www.gravematter.com/cem-ma-amesbury.asp I cannot connect this John Colby though? John Colby died Dec. 29, 1821 Aged 33 Elijah his son died Aug. 27, 1824 Aged 24. Bob Colby ==== COLBY Mailing List ==== For posting to Colby Boards at Rootsweb & Ancestry.com: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=Surnames.Colby ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Found this website with a list of a few Colbys buried in Union Cemetery, Amesbury, MA. Includes inscriptions and photos of gravestones. Have a nice Memorial Day. http://www.gravematter.com/cem-ma-amesbury.asp I cannot connect this John Colby though? John Colby died Dec. 29, 1821 Aged 33 Elijah his son died Aug. 27, 1824 Aged 24. Bob Colby

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Colby, Hinkley Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wQJ.2ACEB/706 Message Board Post: Evelyn L. Colby Evelyn L. "Betsy" Colby, nee Hinkley, 76, of Wiscasset, died Tuesday, September 23, 2003 at her home in Wiscasset. Born on August 26, 1927 in Skowhegan, she was a daughter of Merwyn and Lillian S. (Mitchell) Hinkley. She was raised by her grandparents, Ethel Blanche and Clarence Plummer of Fairfield. Mrs. Colby attended the Fairfield school system and in 1945 graduated from Coburn Classic Institute. She was glad to have attended a Coburn reunion in the 1990s. She met her future husband, Jed Ellis Colby at Camp O-AT-KA and they were married on October 14, 1946. They lived for a time in Bath and before moving to Wiscasset. For 50 plus years she lived in Wiscasset. Mrs. Colby and her family went on multiple family camping trips and traveled to special spots both at Lake Moxie and Campobello Island in Canada. She and her daughter, Susan, traveled to the British Isles. This was her first and only trip outside North America. Her husband predeceased her in August, 1980. For 21 years, she worked as a switchboard operator at the Bath Iron Works, retiring in 1987. She was a lifetime member of the American Legion Auxiliary Unit in Wiscasset. Her many hobbies included crocheting outfits for dolls, knitting, doing crossword puzzles, reading and watching or listening to sports events, especially the Celtics and the Red Sox. Mrs. Colby was admired for being able to do a cartwheel and getting her driver's license, both in her 50s. Survivors include her children, Jed Earl and Carol Colby of Edgecomb, Dawn Cates and her partner Harry Bonish of Vassalboro, and Susan and Timothy James of Wiscasset; grandchildren, Stacy and Johnnie Barnes of Dresden, Jed Ebden and partner Roxie Ayer of Wiscasset, Amy Cates and Wendy and Chad Grenier of Winslow, Jessica and Lindsay of Wiscasset, and Timothy (T.J.) James of Wiscasset and Lund, Sweden; great-grandchildren, Olivia Barnes, Natalie Green, Caitlin and Hailey Grenier, Trey James and Trinen Jeffrey; siblings, Earl W. and Dorothy Hinkley, Dover, N.J., Harold and Dolores Hinkley of Stroudsburg, Penn.; John and Sue Hinkley of Augusta, Helen and Ronald Greene of Zephyrhills, Fla.; sister-in-law, Maizie Argondizza of Portland; and many other family and friends. Mrs. Colby was predeceased by a brother, Leforest Hinkley in infancy. A memorial service was held on Monday, September 29 at the Lawry Brothers Funeral Home in Fairfield. There was a gathering of family and friends at Dawn Cates and Harry Bonish's home in Vassalboro following the service. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to a scholarship or charity of one's choice.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Colby Felton Haddon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wQJ.2ACEB/705 Message Board Post: Please provide the exact title and publishing information for the Weir book that has been discussed on the list. I apologize if I missed it. Grace and Peace, Clarence Burton Bagby

Guy the statement that Weis makes is this: Anthony Colby was born in England (perhaps at Beccles, co. Suffolk, or Banham, co. Norfolk), 1595, and he died at Salisbury, Massachusetts, 11 February 1660/1. He married Susannah (perhaps Haddon), who died at Salisbury, 8 July 1689. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:33 PM Subject: [COLBY] Anthony Colby's Parentage Revisited John G. Hunt's June 1974 NGSQ article, recently posted to the list in its entirety by Ron Colby, contains the following statement: "Frederick Lewis Weis, "The Colby Family" (Concord, Mass., 1970), page 3, shows that Anthony (1) Colby was born in 1595." I do not have the Weis book, so I do not know what proof he adduces for this claim. It would appear, however, that he is adopting the suggestion made by David W. Hoyt in "Old Families of Sailsbury and Amesbury" (page 1059), that the immigrant Anthony Colby may have been the son of Christopher Colby and Anne Thorold of Grantham, Lincolnshire. The Hunt article also notes an alternate supposition in the Banks manuscripts that the immigrant is to be identified with an Anthony Colby from Aswardby, Lincolnshire. In another recent posting, Bob Colby quotes from John Brooks Threlfall's 1990 work "Fifty Great Migration Colonists to New England," in which Threlfall emphatically argues that the immigrant Anthony Colby is to be identified with the son of Thomas Colby and Anne Jackson, christened 8 Sep 1605 at Horbling, Lincolnshire. This is the identification which seems currently to enjoy general acceptance. I have met John Brooks Threlfall personally and listened to him discourse upon this subject, and I share Bob Colby's admiration for his closely documented research. However, I do have a question. In arguing his case for the Horbling candidate as the immigrant Anthony Colby, Threllfall makes the following statement: "All the other known contemporary Anthony Colbys in Old England can be eliminated from consideration for one reason or another." My question is this: Does anyone know on what basis Threlfall rejects the Grantham and Aswardby candidates mentioned in the Hunt article? I concur that the claims made on behalf of the Anthony from Beccles in Suffolk have been thoroughly discredited, but it would seem on the face of it that some of the same arguments made in favor of the Horbling candidate can be offered in support of these other two Lincolnshire candidates as well. Guy I. Colby IV Irving, TX ==== COLBY Mailing List ==== 2005 COLBY CLAN REUNION Aug 20, 2005 East Hartford, Connecticut For more information contact: Adeline S. Stack 26 Coolidge Ave South Portland, Maine 04106-5013 Phone (207) 799-1648 ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

John G. Hunt's June 1974 NGSQ article, recently posted to the list in its entirety by Ron Colby, contains the following statement: "Frederick Lewis Weis, "The Colby Family" (Concord, Mass., 1970), page 3, shows that Anthony (1) Colby was born in 1595." I do not have the Weis book, so I do not know what proof he adduces for this claim. It would appear, however, that he is adopting the suggestion made by David W. Hoyt in "Old Families of Sailsbury and Amesbury" (page 1059), that the immigrant Anthony Colby may have been the son of Christopher Colby and Anne Thorold of Grantham, Lincolnshire. The Hunt article also notes an alternate supposition in the Banks manuscripts that the immigrant is to be identified with an Anthony Colby from Aswardby, Lincolnshire. In another recent posting, Bob Colby quotes from John Brooks Threlfall's 1990 work "Fifty Great Migration Colonists to New England," in which Threlfall emphatically argues that the immigrant Anthony Colby is to be identified with the son of Thomas Colby and Anne Jackson, christened 8 Sep 1605 at Horbling, Lincolnshire. This is the identification which seems currently to enjoy general acceptance. I have met John Brooks Threlfall personally and listened to him discourse upon this subject, and I share Bob Colby's admiration for his closely documented research. However, I do have a question. In arguing his case for the Horbling candidate as the immigrant Anthony Colby, Threllfall makes the following statement: "All the other known contemporary Anthony Colbys in Old England can be eliminated from consideration for one reason or another." My question is this: Does anyone know on what basis Threlfall rejects the Grantham and Aswardby candidates mentioned in the Hunt article? I concur that the claims made on behalf of the Anthony from Beccles in Suffolk have been thoroughly discredited, but it would seem on the face of it that some of the same arguments made in favor of the Horbling candidate can be offered in support of these other two Lincolnshire candidates as well. Guy I. Colby IV Irving, TX

Everyone: I have been helping a cousin with her line. She is a descendant of Daniel Colby and Sarah Trussel. Everything on this Daniel Colby seems to hit a brick wall, until yesterday when the following was sent to us by another researcher helping her. From the NEHGS, Vital Records of Enfield, NH, 1761-1940 Daniel, s. Ebenezer & Mary (Chase) b. Nov. 23, 1752, Haverhill, Mass. d. Nov. 10, 1815, Enfield m. Oct. 1, 1769, Plaistow, Sarah Trussell Moses, s. Daniel & Sarah (Trussell) b. June 5, 1772, Plaistow m. Jan. 27, 1799, Lebanon, Betsey Moody Now, here is the stickler for this new information. Colby family information have it that Daniel Colby s/o Ebenezer Colby and Mary Chase married 24 AUG 1775 Mary Folsom. Several of their children went to Darien, New York. If the Enfield vital records on NEHGS are correct it will make the whole line of Daniel Colby and Mary Folsom an "orphan" Colby line. I would like some feed back on this new information. Ronald Colby [email protected] Kearns, Utah 801-680-1317 I finally got my head together, now my body is falling apart. Home page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~colby/colbyfam

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Colby, Perrine, Schmitt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wQJ.2ACEB/704 Message Board Post: Lois E. Schmitt Nov. 9, 1912 – May 15, 2005 OLIVIA -- Lois Emeline Schmitt, 92, of Olivia, formerly of Fairmont, died Sunday at the Renville County Hospital in Olivia. The service will be at 2 p.m. Tuesday at the Lakeview Funeral Home in Fairmont. Burial will be at Lakeside Cemetery in Fairmont. Visitation will be for one hour prior to the service at the funeral home. Memorials preferred to the Fairmont United Methodist Church UMW or the Lakeview Methodist Home Foundation. She was born Nov. 9, 1912, in Delavan to Bert L. and Sarah (Haynes) Colby. She attended schools in Delavan and Blue Earth. She graduated from high school in 1931. She married R. H. “Mike” Perrine on July 15, 1934. He died in October of 1970. She worked as a kindergarten aide in Isle, then as supervisor of students at St. Cloud University. She married the Rev. Albert Schmitt in St. Cloud. She moved to Duluth and worked as a cashier at St. Luke’s Hospital. They moved to Fairmont and she worked as an admissions clerk at Fairmont Community Hospital. She retired in 1976. She moved to Olivia in 2004. She was a member of the United Methodist Church and was a Sunday School teacher and Women’s Society president active in other church organizations. She was a member of the Eastern Star. She is survived by her sons: the Rev. Byron (and Cheryl) Perrine of Olivia, Dan (and the Rev. Pam) Perrine of Lexington, Ky.; stepdaughter: Ruth (and Dick) Flannelly of Arlington, Va.; nine grandchildren; and many great-grandchildren. She was preceded in death by her husbands; son: Michael Perrine; daughter-in-law: Jean Perrine; one sister and four brothers.

Trying to identify this Sherman D. Colby from Concord, NH Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ron Descendants of Sherman D. COLBY - 16 MAY 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FIRST GENERATION 1. Sherman D. COLBY was born in 1815 in New Hampshire. He appeared on the census in 1850 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. He appeared on the census in 1860 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. He appeared on the census in 1870 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. He appeared on the census in 1880 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. He was married to Martha W. CROWELL on May 1, 1845 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (SOURCE: FHL Number 1000976; COLBY, Sherman D., Marriage: Martha W. CROWELL, Date: 1 May 1845; Recorded in: Birth and Marriage Index for New Hampshire.) Martha W. CROWELL was born in 1816 in New Hampshire. She appeared on the census in 1850 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. She appeared on the census in 1860 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. She appeared on the census in 1870 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. She appeared on the census in 1880 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. Sherman D. COLBY and Martha W. CROWELL had the following children: 2 i. Sherman P. COLBY was born in 1846 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. He appeared on the census in 1850 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) He appeared on the census in 1860 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) 3 ii. Clara M. COLBY was born in 1849 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. She appeared on the census in 1850 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) She appeared on the census in 1860 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) She appeared on the census in 1870 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) 4 iii. Rosilla D. COLBY was born in 1851 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. She appeared on the census in 1860 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) She appeared on the census in 1870 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) 5 iv. Flora A. COLBY was born in 1854 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. She appeared on the census in 1860 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) She appeared on the census in 1870 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) +6 v. John W. COLBY (born in November 1857). SECOND GENERATION 6. John W. COLBY was born in November 1857 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. He appeared on the census in 1860 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) He appeared on the census in 1870 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) He appeared on the census in 1880 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) He appeared on the census in 1900 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. He was married to Hattie L. STEVENS on December 3, 1888 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (SOURCE: FHL Number 1000976; COLBY, John W., Age: 31 years; Marriage: Hattie L. STEVENS, Age: 23 years; Date: 03 Dec 1888; Recorded in: Birth and Marriage Index for New Hampshire.) Hattie L. STEVENS was born in 1865 in Massachusetts. (Daughter of Nathan P. STEVENS and Harriet A. ROLFE.) He was married to Esther B. TUCKER on January 25, 1893 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (SOURCE: FHL Number 1000976; COLBY, John W., Age: 35 years; Marriage: Esther B. TUCKER, Age: 18 years; Date: 25 Jan 1893; Recorded in: Birth and Marriage Index for New Hampshire.) Esther B. TUCKER was born in July 1874 in Massachusetts. (Daughter of Freeman A. TUCKER and Lucy J. CARDY.) She appeared on the census in 1900 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. John W. COLBY and Esther B. TUCKER had the following children: 7 i. John Bernard COLBY was born on May 24, 1893 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. He appeared on the census in 1900 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) 8 ii. Harold COLBY was born in March 1897 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. He appeared on the census in 1900 in Concord, Merrimack County, New Hampshire. (living at home with father and mother.) Prepared by: Ronald M. Colby 4814 South 4180 West Kearns, Utah 84118-4014 COLBY FAMILY & OTHERS http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~colby/colbyfam

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Colby, Sherman, Flynn Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wQJ.2ACEB/703 Message Board Post: Colby, Dr. Ira S. PITTSFIELD -- Dr. Ira S. Colby, 87, of Ann Drive died Sunday at Mount Greylock Extended Care Facility. Born in New York City on Dec. 31, 1916, son of Philip and Sadie Sherman Colby, he graduated from high school there in 1933, from City College in New York City in 1937 and from New York University College of Dentistry in 1941. He received his license to practice dentistry in 1942 in New York and in 1947 in Massachusetts, and completed his residence in general dentistry at Mount Sinai Medical Center in 1943. An Army veteran of World War II, he served as a captain from 1943 to 1946 and was the chief of three dental clinics. Dr. Colby maintained a general dentistry practice on South Street for 43 years. He sold the practice to Dr. Alan Gold and retired in 1990. He was on the medical staff of the former St. Luke's Hospital and of Berkshire Medical Center. He was appointed as a lecturer at Harvard University in 1974. He had practiced dentistry in Manhattan for a year before moving to Pittsfield. He was elected a fellow to the American College of Dentists in 1965 and to the International College of Dentists in 1969. He was past president of the Berkshire District Dental Society and the Massachusetts Dental Society. He was recognized in 1969 by the state Senate for his leadership in strengthening the Medicaid Dental Program, primarily working with the Head Start program in increasing access for pediatric dentistry. He also helped establish a retirement program for dentists throughout the state. Dr. Colby was a member of the Country Club of Pittsfield for more than 35 years and an avid tennis player. He also enjoyed painting at the Berkshire Museum and organizing traveling for MDS members to Italy, Ireland, South America and Hawaii. He also had been president of the board of directors of Jacob's Pillow for 15 years and a member of the New York University Century Club. He and his wife, the former Mary L. Flynn, were married Oct. 12, 1943, in St. Mark's rectory in Pittsfield. Besides his wife, he leaves two sons, Dr. Ira C. Colby of Houston and Peter E. Colby of Acton; two brothers, Dr. Raymond Colby of Pittsfield and Dr. Robert Colby of Del Ray Beach, Fla.; a sister, Doris Meenes of Boca Raton, Fla.; four grandchildren, and four great-grandchildren. FUNERAL NOTICE -- Dr. Ira S. Colby, 87, died Sunday, Oct. 3, 2004. The funeral service and celebration of his life will be private, with Barbara Cohen, spiritual leader of Temple Anshe Amunim, and Rabbi Harold Salzmann, rabbi emeritus, officiating. Inurnment will take place in St. Michael the Archangel Mausoleum in St. Joseph's Cemetery. The family extends an invitation to friends and colleagues to attend a meal of consolation at the Country Club of Pittsfield on Friday, Oct. 8, beginning at noon. Memorial donations may be made to the Parkinson's Disease Research Fund in care of DEVANNY-CONDRON FUNERAL HOME, 40 Maplewood Ave., Pittsfield 01201. He is also survived by his grandchildren, Stephen, Matthew, Elizabeth and Lisa Colby, and his great-grandchildren, Taylor, Megan, Tristan and Reese Colby.

More on Anthony The following NGSQ article is quoted in it's entirety: ANTHONY COLBY OF MASSACHUSETTS, 1633 By John G. Hunt* "It is tempting to seize hold of a trans-Atlantic personage of noble descent as our own ancestor, simply because he bore the same baptismal name and surname as were borne by our known first ancestor to land in America. The science of genealogy would benefit if we were actuated more by a desire to determine what is provable, than by a wish to aspire to noble ancestry. In this connection, let us examine what appears to be an unwarranted claim to royal ancestry. In "Living Descendants of Blood Royal, 4:757 (reviewed in the "Quarterly" 59:316-7), Count d' Angerville printed a line of descent from King Edward I for Anthony (1) Colby of Cambridge, Massachusetts, 1630. It claims that Anthony was the fourth son of Thomas and Beatrice (Felton) Colby of Beccles, Suffolk, and Roos Hall, and cites the evidence as a "pedigree of family of Colby of Brundich and Beccles, College of Arms, extracted by an officer of the College for Colonel Ordway, 1967." What is the basis for asserting that the Anthony Colby who came to Massachusetts by September 1633 is the same Anthony who was son of Thomas of Beccles? Frederick Lewis Weis, "The Colby Family (Concord, Mass., 1970), page 3, shows that Anthony (1) Colby was born in 1595. If so, he cannot have been son of Beatrix and Thomas, for the will of Thomas was dated in June 1588 and proved 22 November 1588. (1) Moreover, there has been cited nowhere any indication that Anthony (1) Colby was a member of the gentry. His name was not given the prefix "Mr." in usage during his lifetime, as far as can be determined. As the late Donald Lines Jacobus used to insist, it would have been contrary to normal usage for a member of the gentry to have shown up in America without being accorded to style "Mr." Contrary to alleged royal descent, there is nothing in the Banks manuscripts that justifies any supposition that Anthony (1) Colby descended from the Colby family of Beccles. Indeed, Colonel Banks supposed that the New England settler was akin to one Anthony Colby of Aswardby, Lincolnshire, six miles from Sempringham, home of the earl of Lincoln, and of Thomas Dudley, and five miles from Horbling, the home of Bradstreet. Each time such unsupported pedigrees are printed, the cause of genealogy receives a setback. The burden of proof lies upon those claiming a royal ancestry for Anthony (1) Colby. Claimants must cite parish register entries, wills, and/or other sound evidence." *821 North Jackson Street, Arlington, Virginia 22201 "(1). P.C.C. 9 Leicester, abstracted in Col. Banks' MSS, vol. I (A through C), pp. 236-241, in Rare Book Room, Library of Congress, Washington, D.C. Note: The late Col. Frederick Ira Ordway, Jr., of Washington, D.C., contributor of the lineage to the Counde d' Angerville's compendium, was offered an opportunity to provide a rebuttal to the above article, but was unable to cite any documentary evidence in support of the lineage. -Editor" Source: NATIONAL GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY QUARTERLY, Volume 62, June 1974, Number 2, pp. 263-264. ============================================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocco" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [COLBY] Anthony Colby's Parentage I am glad to see some spirited dialogue about our Anthony Colby parentage. I am one of the believers in John Brooks Threlfall's documented research. From, "Fifty Great Migration Colonists To New England", By John W. Threfall, Madison, Wisconsin, 1990: "ANTHONY COLBY (Thomas, Matthew) was baptized on 8 September 1605 at Horbling, Lincolnshire. Horbling is next to Sempringham where his Colby ancestors had lived for several generations. He was apparently named for his uncle, Anthony Jackson. Left London, (Isle of Writht) in March of 1630 with more than 400 others. Arrived on ship Arbella at Boston. Lived on shipboard 4 months before housing could be made. "THE GREAT MIGRATION" "The Massachusetts Bay Company was organized to cultivate trade, convert the heathen, and provide a refuge for those who position in England, under King Charles I and Archbishop Laud, was becoming more untenable... "During the winter of 1629-30 a fleet of eleven vessels had been readied. Four, including the "Arbella", which carried Governor Winthrop and the charter, without the possession of which he and his associates had not been willing to sail, left England on March 29, 1630; the others soon followed. The year 1630 alone brought about fifteen hundred people, and it has been estimated that there were fifteen thousand by 1642, when political conditions in England prevented any considerable further emigrations. By 1647 more Than twenty communities had been established, mostly near the coast, with Dedham the farthest inland. As time passed, prosperity came with trade in cod, furs, and lumber, supplemented by rum, distilled from West Indian molasses. The "Arbella" landed at Salem, after more than two months at sea. Winthrop and his followers first intended one compact settlement, but Salem "pleased them not," and they moved on... Except for the inadequacy of water supplies, they might have made Charlestown their headquarters, but when invited by William Blaxton, survivor of a Gorges colony, living on what is now Beacon Hill, they moved on the Shawmut or Trimountain, whose name was changed to Boston. Between lack of fresh food, inadequate housing, and disease, the first winter was almost as bad as Plymouth's, especially after intense cold set in on Christmas Eve. When the "Lion" arrived with provisions, the worst agony was relieved, but many went back with her, and some left their bones in King's Chapel burying ground, where they still lie." "Anthony Colby left London, (Isle of Wright) in March of 1630 with more than 400 others from the area. The ship Anthony traveled across the Atlantic and was re-christened the 'Arbella' in honor of Lady Arbella. The ship mounted 28 guns and carried a crew of fifty-two seamen. On Thursday, April 8, 1630 the fleet set sail to the unknown West. On June 12th, land was a reality when they arrived at Cape Ann. From then untill the 6th of July, when the last of the convoy arrived safely. Their final prayer ended with - - "And there shall be no more Sea.." ------------------------------------------ In the Additions and corrections section printed in 1919, I found the following pertaining to Anthony Colby. This is what Hoyt had to say about James W. Colby's Beccles theory. "James W. Colby, in his "History of the Colby Family," Waltham, Mass, 1895, states that Anthony of Salisbury, b. 1690 (should be 1590), was the son of Thomas of Beccles, Suffolk, Eng. He carries the ancestry back through Suffolk families, probably descended from John, who disappears from the Norfolk pedigree, eldest son of John of Banham, Norfolk, grandson of Sir John, and brother of Robert; but gives no authority. He carries the Norfolk line much further back than Sir John, to Robert de Colebi. He gives Colby families in other parts of England, and gives the ancestry of Christopher as we have it above; but states that he was living in 1616 and left no issue. The "Visitation" quoted above make no such statement. Mr. Colby omits entirely the Thorold-Colby line, which includes an Anthony Colby who may have been b. in 1690." "In is probable that the Suffolk family is a branch of he Norfolk line; but it is DOUBTFUL if the connection Mr Colby gives is correct. If we understand his arrangement, he makes the ancestry of Anthony of Salisbury as follows: Sir John, John of Banham, John d. 1459, John of Brundish (Suffolk), d. 1540?, Thomas of Beccles, will 1588, Anthony, b. 1590. It is not often that a son dies 81 years later than his father, and if a man's will was probated in 1588, he could not have a son born in 1590. Mr. Colby gives a Christopher of this branch, an uncle of Anthony of Salisbury. Could he have been the husband of Anne Thorold? Six generations seem too few. If the Christopher of Banham and Grantham were the same, the son Anthony would be the ninth generation." "The Suffolk "Visitation" of 1664, published in 1910, gives a later pedigree, showing that Rev. Thomas Colby, son of Thomas and brother of Christopher settled in Cawston, Norfolk, and had a son, John of Waltham, Suffolk, in 1664." BOB COLBY http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/o/l/Robert-C-Colby-jr/index.html ==== COLBY Mailing List ==== COLBY CLAN ASSOCIATION for membership information contact Adeline S. Stack 26 Coolidge Ave. South Portland, Maine 04106-5013 Phone (207) 799-1648 ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

I am glad to see some spirited dialogue about our Anthony Colby parentage. I am one of the believers in John Brooks Threlfall's documented research. From, "Fifty Great Migration Colonists To New England", By John W. Threfall, Madison, Wisconsin, 1990: "ANTHONY COLBY (Thomas, Matthew) was baptized on 8 September 1605 at Horbling, Lincolnshire. Horbling is next to Sempringham where his Colby ancestors had lived for several generations. He was apparently named for his uncle, Anthony Jackson. Left London, (Isle of Writht) in March of 1630 with more than 400 others. Arrived on ship Arbella at Boston. Lived on shipboard 4 months before housing could be made. "THE GREAT MIGRATION" "The Massachusetts Bay Company was organized to cultivate trade, convert the heathen, and provide a refuge for those who position in England, under King Charles I and Archbishop Laud, was becoming more untenable... "During the winter of 1629-30 a fleet of eleven vessels had been readied. Four, including the "Arbella", which carried Governor Winthrop and the charter, without the possession of which he and his associates had not been willing to sail, left England on March 29, 1630; the others soon followed. The year 1630 alone brought about fifteen hundred people, and it has been estimated that there were fifteen thousand by 1642, when political conditions in England prevented any considerable further emigrations. By 1647 more Than twenty communities had been established, mostly near the coast, with Dedham the farthest inland. As time passed, prosperity came with trade in cod, furs, and lumber, supplemented by rum, distilled from West Indian molasses. The "Arbella" landed at Salem, after more than two months at sea. Winthrop and his followers first intended one compact settlement, but Salem "pleased them not," and they moved on... Except for the inadequacy of water supplies, they might have made Charlestown their headquarters, but when invited by William Blaxton, survivor of a Gorges colony, living on what is now Beacon Hill, they moved on the Shawmut or Trimountain, whose name was changed to Boston. Between lack of fresh food, inadequate housing, and disease, the first winter was almost as bad as Plymouth's, especially after intense cold set in on Christmas Eve. When the "Lion" arrived with provisions, the worst agony was relieved, but many went back with her, and some left their bones in King's Chapel burying ground, where they still lie." "Anthony Colby left London, (Isle of Wright) in March of 1630 with more than 400 others from the area. The ship Anthony traveled across the Atlantic and was re-christened the 'Arbella' in honor of Lady Arbella. The ship mounted 28 guns and carried a crew of fifty-two seamen. On Thursday, April 8, 1630 the fleet set sail to the unknown West. On June 12th, land was a reality when they arrived at Cape Ann. From then untill the 6th of July, when the last of the convoy arrived safely. Their final prayer ended with - - "And there shall be no more Sea.." ------------------------------------------ In the Additions and corrections section printed in 1919, I found the following pertaining to Anthony Colby. This is what Hoyt had to say about James W. Colby's Beccles theory. "James W. Colby, in his "History of the Colby Family," Waltham, Mass, 1895, states that Anthony of Salisbury, b. 1690 (should be 1590), was the son of Thomas of Beccles, Suffolk, Eng. He carries the ancestry back through Suffolk families, probably descended from John, who disappears from the Norfolk pedigree, eldest son of John of Banham, Norfolk, grandson of Sir John, and brother of Robert; but gives no authority. He carries the Norfolk line much further back than Sir John, to Robert de Colebi. He gives Colby families in other parts of England, and gives the ancestry of Christopher as we have it above; but states that he was living in 1616 and left no issue. The "Visitation" quoted above make no such statement. Mr. Colby omits entirely the Thorold-Colby line, which includes an Anthony Colby who may have been b. in 1690." "In is probable that the Suffolk family is a branch of he Norfolk line; but it is DOUBTFUL if the connection Mr Colby gives is correct. If we understand his arrangement, he makes the ancestry of Anthony of Salisbury as follows: Sir John, John of Banham, John d. 1459, John of Brundish (Suffolk), d. 1540?, Thomas of Beccles, will 1588, Anthony, b. 1590. It is not often that a son dies 81 years later than his father, and if a man's will was probated in 1588, he could not have a son born in 1590. Mr. Colby gives a Christopher of this branch, an uncle of Anthony of Salisbury. Could he have been the husband of Anne Thorold? Six generations seem too few. If the Christopher of Banham and Grantham were the same, the son Anthony would be the ninth generation." "The Suffolk "Visitation" of 1664, published in 1910, gives a later pedigree, showing that Rev. Thomas Colby, son of Thomas and brother of Christopher settled in Cawston, Norfolk, and had a son, John of Waltham, Suffolk, in 1664." BOB COLBY http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/o/l/Robert-C-Colby-jr/index.html

Clarence -- If I may, I should like to formulate a consolidated response to your several queries regarding Anthony Colby's parentage. As I see it, there are two separate issues here: 1) How conclusive is the evidence against the assertion that the immigrant Anthony Colby was the son of Thomas Colby and Beatrice Felton of Beccles in Suffolk? 2) What evidence can be marshalled in support of the assertion that the immigrant Anthony Colby was the son of Thomas Colby and Anne Jackson of Horbling in Lincolnshire? From my perspective, the answer to the first item must be that the evidence is substantial. As Ron indicated in a recent posting, a number of respected genealogists have called into question the reliability of James Colby's original identification of Anthony with the Beccles family. One of the most cogent rebuttals is to be found in the 1975 Nelson article, which Ron posted to the list in its entirety. I find Nelson's arguments to be compelling. His reasoning can be boiled down to two main points: A) Based upon the 1588 will of Thomas Colby of Beccles (and other related documents cited in the article), Thomas's fifth child Anthony would have been approximately 56 years old at the time of his arrival in Massachusetts. This would require him to have begotten 8 children over the next 20 years, and to have engaged in strenuous physical labor up to the time of his death at age 87. Such a scenario is highly unlikely. B) The 1643 will of Anthony's brother Phillip, which provides for an annuity to be paid to Anthony twice a year, strongly suggests that Anthony Colby of Beccles was still in England 13 years after the immigrant Anthony Colby arrived in Massachusetts. Moreover (and this is the real clincher), this same will makes a bequest to Anthony's adult son Thomas -- seven years before the birth of Thomas Colby, son of the immigrant Anthony Colby! In light of the above, the likelihood seems to me remote that Anthony Colby, son of Thomas Colby of Beccles, was the individual who came to America with the Winthrop fleet in 1630. So, then, who was Anthony Colby the immigrant, and who were his parents? As Nelson points out, there were a number of men by that name living in England in the first quarter of the 17th century. Is there conclusive evidence that the Anthony Colby who was christened in 1605 at Horbling in Lincolnshire is the right man? The answer to this question is that while no absolute proof exists, circumstantial evidence to this effect is persuasive. John Brooks Threlfall has demonstrated that all other contemporary Anthony Colbys can be eliminated from consideration for one reason or another, leaving us to assess whether Anthony Colby of Horbling is a logical candidate. Consider the following: I) He is the right age -- he would have been approximately 24 at the time of his arrival in Massachusetts. II) Thomas Colby's 1625 will mentions his five living sons. Three of them (William, Richard, and Robert) are mentioned in subsequent source documents as being in residence at Horbling after 1630, but there is no record of Anthony or his brother Matthew in England after 1625. III) Early records suggest an association between the immigrant Anthony Colby and Simon Bradstreet, who eventually became governor of Massachusetts Bay Colony. The two men were nearly the same age, and it is of no little significance that Bradstreet (who also arrived in America in 1630) was a Horbling native. Winthrop's original company also included a number of others from villages near Horbling. John Brooks Threlfall has compiled a brief documented history of the ancestry of Anthony Colby of Horbling, taking both his paternal and maternal lines back several more generations. I hope this posting provides answers to some of your questions. While absolute certainty will probably remain beyond our reach, the foregoing represents a summary of the most current research on the subject. Regards, Guy I. Colby IV Irving, TX

Clarence You mentioned your cousin gave you the information about Anthony being from Beccles. My question is: what are their sources for this conclusion? Would you share these with us? Ron Colby ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: [COLBY] Re: Thomas Colby This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Colby Felton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wQJ.2ACEB/652.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have now read Glade Nelson's article. I must say that from my vantage point, it seems to place high importance on a great deal of subjective evidence. I do not think now, having read all of this, that there is conclusive evidence that there were two Anthony Colbys and two Thomas Colbys. I believe the will of Thomas Colby that I have from 1588 is the most concrete evidence to date and it supports my position that Anthony Colby was the second son of Thomas Colby of Beccles. ==== COLBY Mailing List ==== 2005 COLBY CLAN REUNION Aug 20, 2005 East Hartford, Connecticut For more information contact: Adeline S. Stack 26 Coolidge Ave South Portland, Maine 04106-5013 Phone (207) 799-1648 ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Colby Felton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wQJ.2ACEB/652.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have now read Glade Nelson's article. I must say that from my vantage point, it seems to place high importance on a great deal of subjective evidence. I do not think now, having read all of this, that there is conclusive evidence that there were two Anthony Colbys and two Thomas Colbys. I believe the will of Thomas Colby that I have from 1588 is the most concrete evidence to date and it supports my position that Anthony Colby was the second son of Thomas Colby of Beccles.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Colby Felton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/wQJ.2ACEB/652.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Guy, What are the sources for these conclusions? I am assuming that since you are so emphatic, you must have conclusive evidence of which Anthony is which and which Thomas is whice. Please share these with us.

He is the son of Robert & Eliza Corliss Colby. Alice Volkert Volkert Services -----Original Message----- From: Ronald Colby [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [COLBY] Joseph Colby Trying to identify this Joseph Colby. In the 1860 census his initial is given as K in the 1870 it is B. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ron Descendants of Joseph K./B. COLBY - 12 MAY 2005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- FIRST GENERATION 1. Joseph K./B. COLBY was born in 1825 in Massachusetts. He appeared on the census in 1860 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. He was a Music Teacher in 1860 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. He was a Music Teacher in 1870 in Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. He appeared on the census in 1870 in Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. He died between 1870 and 1880. He was married to Jane (COLBY) about 1852. Jane (COLBY) was born in April 1831 in New York. She appeared on the census in 1860 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. She appeared on the census in 1870 in Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. She appeared on the census in 1880 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. She appeared on the census in 1900 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. (living with son Frank Henry Colby and family.) Joseph K./B. COLBY and Jane (COLBY) had the following children: 2 i. Josephine A. COLBY was born in 1853 in New York. She appeared on the census in 1860 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. (living at home with father and mother. Listed as Joseph A. Colby.) She appeared on the census in 1870 in Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. (living at home with father and mother.) She was a Music Teacher in 1880 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. She appeared on the census in 1880 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. (living at home with mother.) +3 ii. Frank Henry COLBY (born in July 1861). 4 iii. Walter R. COLBY was born in 1866 in Massachusetts. He appeared on the census in 1870 in Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. (living at home with father and mother.) He appeared on the census in 1880 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. (living at home with mother.) SECOND GENERATION 3. Frank Henry COLBY was born in July 1861 in Massachusetts. He appeared on the census in 1870 in Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. (living at home with father and mother.) He appeared on the census in 1880 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. (living at home with mother.) He appeared on the census in 1900 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. He was married to Martha KINGSBURY on September 8, 1892 in Massachusetts. Martha KINGSBURY was born on June 23, 1865 in Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. She appeared on the census in 1900 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. Frank Henry COLBY and Martha KINGSBURY had the following children: 5 i. John Kingsbury COLBY was born on October 19, 1896 in Massachusetts. He appeared on the census in 1900 in Haverhill, Essex County, Massachusetts. (living at home with father and mother.) Prepared by: Ronald M. Colby 4814 South 4180 West Kearns, Utah 84118-4014 COLBY FAMILY & OTHERS http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~colby/colbyfam ==== COLBY Mailing List ==== Ronald Colby's home page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~colby/colbyfam/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx