I would like a copy of the Coker coat of arms, please. thanks jayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall Nelson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > I have a copy of the Coker coat of arms , it has been in the family for some time , would be happy to share to anyone who want one , by computer only . > Debbie N. > > Eveline Crocker wrote: > > > Thank you, Gary, > > But, Please, I do not desire to get into that discussion, but since you asked. > > I am both CROCKER and COKER,. COKER FROM MY MOTHER'S MOTHER. Some claim Crockers are Scottish but the first thing I do is research the meaning of each of my ancestors surnames. > > The Coker means red Clay named after the Castle Coker in Somerset England in the 10th century which belonged to the Earl of MANDERVILLE family, who in fact was NORMAN and fought with William the Conquer in the BATTLE OF ABBY. > > One ROBERT de MANDERVILLE changed his name to ROBERT de COKER about 1275. source:" A Dictionary of English and Walsh Surnames" ; "SURNAMES ARE THE FOSSILS OF SPEECH" and > > A good history of WEST COKER IN SOMERSET ENGLAND may be found at <http;//west.coker.net/history2.htm>. > > > > Steve Coker also has done research on the COKER name and placed it on the COKER-L Sat. Mar. 1998. You will find it on the Coker-L archives on Rootsweb.com. > > > > Also, a Dr. Robert E. Coker of S. C. complied a Booklet entitled "COKER" OUR NAME THE PLACE" in March 1950. > > I think Dr. Coker is deceased now. but I have copy of the booklet. Also, another source is COKER GENEALOGICAL and HISTORICAL SKETCH by ROOTS RESEARCH BUREAU, LTD. MANUSCRIPT # 562. > > > > The CROCKER surname is similar. The book, "The Norman People and Their Existing Descendants in British Dominions and the United States" states northmen of Danish Connexion with ANGLO-SAXON which made up England - Saxon _ Dane & Norman; 879 AD -- Danish Dominion of Saxon > > England. > > > > Crocker (Eng.) Croaker (Norman) or de Crocherce from crocea, a cross (Ducange) crocearius, a cross - bearer, Simon de Crocherce and William Crockare mentioned in England --- 1272 A D (Rot. Hundren) Norman families may be included. John de Crochere Held lands from de > > Pomery, Devon, at time of Henry the I. > > > > From "HISTORICAL SOUTHERN FAMILIES" volumne II, John Bennett Boddie 1958. > > CROCKER of the Isle of Wight, "A Mrs. Myrtle P. Handley of Birmingham, Al. who most probable is an CROCKER Descendant of MARY EULA, daughter of WILLIAM EUGENE , son of WILSON, SON OF DRUE (DRURY) , son of ANTHONY, SON of WILLIAM, son of ANTHONY, ancsentor in the Isle of > > Wight Va.. DRURY CROCKER MOVED his family to DALLAS co. AL. about 1780. > > According to Ms. Handley; "the name, "CROCKER" is SCOTTISH. A CROCKER or CROKER was a maker of crocks, orginally large barrel shaped jars. The name, CROCKER, is similar in meaning to that of a potter, It is an ancient family in England (see WESTCOTT'S DEVONSHIRE by G. > > OLIVER and P. JONES p. p. 550. Also, THE HARLEIAN SOCIETY, vols VI - 78, LX - 57". > > > > We can see in the first paragraph, there is a difference of opinion, pertaining to the origin as well as the spelling of the name of de CROCHERCE aka CROCKER. > > We may assume that "The Norman People and Their Existing Descendants in British Dominions and the United States" is more recent information on the family of CROCKER name than that was available to Mrs. HANDLEY or BODDIE in the 1950s. > > > > CROCKER COAT OF ARMS; > > > > According to BURK'S ENCYCLOPEDIA OF HERALDY, the CROCKER arms was "Argent: a Chevron engrailed between three raven, Sable". > > This is now combined with another families arms since the last one to inherit it was a daughter and her husband's arms was combined with hers. It may be found at <http://geocities.com/texannusa36/thehouseofcrocker.html> > > > > As I mentioned above, Steve Coker wrote an interesting item about the Coker name which included facts about the COKER ARMS of Three Leopards. > > > > Sorry, this is so very long, but, it has good history and genealogy concerning my CROCKER and COKER surnames that you may use. > > Thank you, kindly. > > Evelyne aka TexAnn Crocker > > <http:geocities.com/texannusa36/thehouseofcrocker.html> > > > > Gary Coker wrote: > > > > > > eveline, > > > > > > just curious about last name being crocker is that irish english or scottish reason i ask is because on english sights they say they mean different regions as well meaning the spelling of coker. > > > > > > gary e coker > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Eveline Crocker > > > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:02 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > > Coker Querie Board > > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Querie Board > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >