NOTE: Bob remember this, 1810 Laurens SC, p.283, Dicey with three younger males (sons John, James and Joseph) 1820 Laurens, p. 014, son John with mother Dicey and son James p. 018, son Joseph with wife and two children under 10 who I assume are the younger sister and brother of Malinda Brown, Joseph's wife. Malinda's father died 1813 and her mother, Nancy, remarried by 1820. 1830 Franklin Co. TN p.63 Joseph with family and older female (50-60) living with them. Dicey would have to be 60 years old at this point to have son John b. 1789. p.63 James with family next door. I believe that there is a John in the family of Joseph and Mary Aldridge Coker as a son. There is enough documentation. You can not rule out that John married again or that John died or that John did not die and lived alone. In one state one can be declared dead after 7yrs of absent from resident and by witness. But did he really die?? do we have a burial site???? Dwight Stipes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Battaglia" <bobbatt@texas.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [Coker] Coker > There's not much activity on here so I would like to start a discussion on > the Joseph and Mary Aldridge Coker family in Laurens Co. SC. For many > years I have tried to gather documents that would connect their son, > John, as the father of three brothers who came to Texas between 1834 & > 1846. The will of Joseph Coker in 1792 names John as "my youngest son". He > would inherit a horse, a cow & calf and a sow & sowlet. I have a copy of > the original will. There are problems in identifying this John Coker. > There are deeds where Nancy Coker, widow of a John Coker applies for dower > rights on land they sold in 1792 in Laurens Co. It is stated that this > John Coker died intestate. Nancy is shown to be in Jackson Co GA 1808 > when she receives her dower settlement. > > There is at least one more John Coker in Laurens. He shows up in the > Journals of the Court Book 1. On 16 Nov 1807 the District of Laurens > Court orders the names of the constables summoned to attend and > serve........the following answered to wit: John Nabours, John Atwood, > John McDavid, John Coker and several others. > Also in the April 1809 term John Coker was called and answered. > In April 1810 John Coker vs John Meriwether case tried. > > Now we have two John Cokers, one married to a Nancy. The other is an > unknown but could certainly be father to above three brothers. > Somewhere on here I have seen reference to the fact that John also married > an Annie Ratliff. I would appreciate learning who this might be. > The Nancy named here could be a Dial, but I haven't seen any > documentation. > > I know this can become confusing, but if there are enough descendants of > the Joseph and Mary Aldridge Coker family, it could be enlightening and > fun. The other sons of Joseph were William (said to have left home and > gotten his inheritance early so not mentioned in the will), Drury, Calvin > and Thomas. Thomas was in RevWar and mentions in his pension that > Jeanette, his sister, married Col. John Armstrong. > > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Subscription management instructions are posted at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
At 08:14 AM 7/18/2005, you wrote: >NOTE: Bob remember this, >1810 Laurens SC, p.283, Dicey with three younger males (sons John, James >and Joseph) I was trying to keep the first email from getting too long. Yes, Dicey shows up as head of household in 1810. The name Dicey doesn't show up again anywhere in Laurens. We assume the three younger males are John 1789, James 1797 and Joseph 1799. Notice there is a gap of 8 years between John and James. Could have been that one or two brothers/sisters died or the first wife died after John's birth. We can't assume Nancy came up with the name Dicey for the 1810 census only. Dicey is nickname more commonly used for Diana, some other more complicated names ending in "......cias, etc.) Who came up with Annie Ratliff being another wife of John? What led to that assumption? The next problem is since Nancy was in Jackson Co GA in 1808 (dowager settlement papers), we could check the 1810 census - but it doesn't exist. Checking the 1809 Tax List, we find only Phillip and Thompson Coker. But then we can't assume Nancy would be on the tax list if she had nothing to tax. One other note on Jackson Co GA. In "Historical Notes by John Elrod" page 212. In the 1807 land lottery, a John Coker is listed along with Robert Coker Sr, who we assume is from Laurens Co. Cokers. Elrod states these records are the the State of GA Archives. So we have a lot of John Cokers with no way to prove who they are. Since John Coker doesn't show up on any other Jackson Co record, we don't know where he ended up. More later, trying to keep focus. More later, trying to keep focus on the problems. >1820 Laurens, p. 014, son John with mother Dicey and son James p. 018, son >Joseph with wife and two children under 10 who I assume are the younger >sister and brother of Malinda Brown, Joseph's wife. Malinda's father died >1813 and her mother, Nancy, remarried by 1820. > >1830 Franklin Co. TN p.63 Joseph with family and older female (50-60) > >living with them. Dicey would have to be 60 years old at this point to >have son John b. 1789. > >p.63 James with family next door. > >I believe that there is a John in the family of Joseph and Mary Aldridge >Coker as a son. There is enough documentation. > >You can not rule out that John married again or that John died or that >John did not die and lived alone. In one state one can be declared dead >after 7yrs of absent from resident and by witness. But did he really die?? >do we have a burial site???? > >Dwight Stipes > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Battaglia" <bobbatt@texas.net> >To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:14 AM >Subject: Re: [Coker] Coker > > >>There's not much activity on here so I would like to start a discussion >>on the Joseph and Mary Aldridge Coker family in Laurens Co. SC. For many >>years I have tried to gather documents that would connect their son, >>John, as the father of three brothers who came to Texas between 1834 & >>1846. The will of Joseph Coker in 1792 names John as "my youngest son". >>He would inherit a horse, a cow & calf and a sow & sowlet. I have a copy >>of the original will. There are problems in identifying this John Coker. >>There are deeds where Nancy Coker, widow of a John Coker applies for >>dower rights on land they sold in 1792 in Laurens Co. It is stated that >>this John Coker died intestate. Nancy is shown to be in Jackson Co GA >>1808 when she receives her dower settlement. >> >>There is at least one more John Coker in Laurens. He shows up in the >>Journals of the Court Book 1. On 16 Nov 1807 the District of Laurens >>Court orders the names of the constables summoned to attend and >>serve........the following answered to wit: John Nabours, John Atwood, >>John McDavid, John Coker and several others. >>Also in the April 1809 term John Coker was called and answered. >>In April 1810 John Coker vs John Meriwether case tried. >> >>Now we have two John Cokers, one married to a Nancy. The other is an >>unknown but could certainly be father to above three brothers. >>Somewhere on here I have seen reference to the fact that John also >>married an Annie Ratliff. I would appreciate learning who this might be. >>The Nancy named here could be a Dial, but I haven't seen any documentation. >> >>I know this can become confusing, but if there are enough descendants of >>the Joseph and Mary Aldridge Coker family, it could be enlightening and >>fun. The other sons of Joseph were William (said to have left home and >>gotten his inheritance early so not mentioned in the will), Drury, Calvin >>and Thomas. Thomas was in RevWar and mentions in his pension that >>Jeanette, his sister, married Col. John Armstrong. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>==== COKER Mailing List ==== >>Subscription management instructions are posted at >>http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > >==== COKER Mailing List ==== >Coker Forum http://members.tripod.com/Coker_Forum/ > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx