Hello! Nice to know you have awakened.:) Why did Dicey go back to Laurens SC.? "It is doubtful since she is said to be living in Jackson Co GA when she (And Children) came back to argue her case in Laurens". Dicey never returned to GA. Why? Dicey (ticklish and ever changing) is a nickname for Nancy is from Ann/Anne. You are right about more documentation is needed but these assumptions family stories can not be over looked as pure wrong information. Some parts are correct some not so correct and some just plain made up. Since i am in you line I try to keep in line with your thinking but do not totally dismiss other data not totally proven. We are still searching and recording of facts. Have a good day & TTYL: Dwight Stipes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Battaglia" <bobbatt@texas.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] Novel about Cokers > At 09:06 AM 7/10/2005, Dwight Stipes wrote: >>See this family line. >>1. Joseph8 Coker (John Jr.7, John Sr.6, William5, John4, John3, William2, >>Thomas1) was born 1715 in James City, Virginia, and died 1792 in Laurens >>County, South Carolina. He married Mary Aldridge 1745 in Virginia. She was >>born 1731 in Roanoke, Virginia, and died 1800 in Greene Co., NC.. >>One of his sons: >>16. John9 Coker (Joseph8, John Jr.7, John Sr.6, William5, John4, John3, >>William2, Thomas1) was born Abt. 1778 in Laurens, SC., and died Bet. >>1809 - 1869 in Talledega Co., AL or PA?. He married (1) Nancy "Dicy" >>Maiden? Coker 1791-1826. She was born Est. 1751-1778, and died Est. >>1803-1869. He married (2) Annie Ratliff Abt. 1803 in Franklin Co., TN.. >>She was born Bef. 1790 in GEORGIA, and died Bet. 1809 - 1880. > > Dwight, I don't know who wrote this, but in the #16. John9 Coker above, I > really have to question the accuracy without documentation. Our Coker > Clan (San Antonio) claims the above John9 was the father of John b.ca1789, > James b.1797 and Joseph b. 1799. His wife was named Dicey ??. Dicey > appears in the 1810 Laurens SC census with 3 males. There were several > John Cokers in the early Laurens time-frame. One was married to a Nancy > ?? based on her claim of dower rights on property they had sold in the > late 1700's. Is Dicey the same as Nancy? It is doubtful since she is > said to be living in Jackson Co GA when she came back to argue her case in > Laurens. Another John Coker was a Justice of the Peace in Laurens around > 1800. We know that John9 was related to Isaac Malcolm Dial by Dial's > marriage to two Coker cousins from Joseph8' family. This is proven by a > letter written in 1861 by James Laurens Dial, son of Isaac Malcom, to a > brother in which he acknowledges the Cokers living in San Antonio (John > and Joseph) were his "kin". > > Joseph8 above did not name his daughters in his will of 1792. There were > several researchers in the 1930's who have passed on now that claimed he > had about 5. We know of one, Jeanette. > > I am presenting this in a nutshell without looking up my references, so I > apologize if I didn't cover more detail. There just aren't many documents > that prove anything after the will of Joseph8 in 1792. Maybe a "novel" is > the best way to present it as long as everyone knows it's a novel and not > necessarily fact. I still enjoy the search for that one missing document > that will clear things up a little bit. > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Querie Board > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=an&p=surnames.coker > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

At 08:52 AM 7/14/2005, Dwight wrote: >Hello! Nice to know you have awakened.:) Naps are great, especially when you look at the computer too long and the temp is hitting 100 outside. Dwight, I agree with you completely. My concern is that there are getting to be too many new researchers who accept the information they see on the Internet - without question. I have contacted some who have great charts and hope to find the source so I can research it more and their reply is "I got this off the Internet and don't remember where". Repetition turns written data into what is considered fact after a while. For those of us who did research before the computer age, we take what we see and use it as a resource to prove or disprove or expand the story. I've forgotten which Coker is your direct line - don't tell me it's John, son of Joseph, who appeared in Joseph's 1792 will as "John, my youngest son". Shall we start some new discussion in this family group? Maybe we will turn up something. :-*

I'm from Thomas Coker son of Joseph & Mary. I think the new researchers don't go through the years of discussion on this site where some of the data has already discussed in great detail.Unless a new sources of documents are discovered we have talked about those that have been available todate. Most of the researcher today don't want to do detailed research on their own at archives. Everyone must reminder that less than 25% of data available is on the Internet. We need everyone looking for Proof on the Data they have. On the John Coker that we were discussing I have five of them that share the same documention and all going in different directions. There were not that many John Cokers at that time in the same location. We are always looking for new documents. I have almost completed the entering of all the census data and copies of all Cokers in US Census data in to my database. TTYL, Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Battaglia" <bobbatt@texas.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] Novel about Cokers > At 08:52 AM 7/14/2005, Dwight wrote: >>Hello! Nice to know you have awakened.:) > > Naps are great, especially when you look at the computer too long and the > temp is hitting 100 outside. Dwight, I agree with you completely. My > concern is that there are getting to be too many new researchers who > accept the information they see on the Internet - without question. I > have contacted some who have great charts and hope to find the source so I > can research it more and their reply is "I got this off the Internet and > don't remember where". Repetition turns written data into what is > considered fact after a while. For those of us who did research before > the computer age, we take what we see and use it as a resource to prove or > disprove or expand the story. > > I've forgotten which Coker is your direct line - don't tell me it's John, > son of Joseph, who appeared in Joseph's 1792 will as "John, my youngest > son". Shall we start some new discussion in this family group? Maybe we > will turn up something. :-* > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Forum http://members.tripod.com/Coker_Forum/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >