This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/1283 Message Board Post: When I try to type a message to the General Board the admin person sends it here

I'm from Thomas Coker son of Joseph & Mary. I think the new researchers don't go through the years of discussion on this site where some of the data has already discussed in great detail.Unless a new sources of documents are discovered we have talked about those that have been available todate. Most of the researcher today don't want to do detailed research on their own at archives. Everyone must reminder that less than 25% of data available is on the Internet. We need everyone looking for Proof on the Data they have. On the John Coker that we were discussing I have five of them that share the same documention and all going in different directions. There were not that many John Cokers at that time in the same location. We are always looking for new documents. I have almost completed the entering of all the census data and copies of all Cokers in US Census data in to my database. TTYL, Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Battaglia" <bobbatt@texas.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] Novel about Cokers > At 08:52 AM 7/14/2005, Dwight wrote: >>Hello! Nice to know you have awakened.:) > > Naps are great, especially when you look at the computer too long and the > temp is hitting 100 outside. Dwight, I agree with you completely. My > concern is that there are getting to be too many new researchers who > accept the information they see on the Internet - without question. I > have contacted some who have great charts and hope to find the source so I > can research it more and their reply is "I got this off the Internet and > don't remember where". Repetition turns written data into what is > considered fact after a while. For those of us who did research before > the computer age, we take what we see and use it as a resource to prove or > disprove or expand the story. > > I've forgotten which Coker is your direct line - don't tell me it's John, > son of Joseph, who appeared in Joseph's 1792 will as "John, my youngest > son". Shall we start some new discussion in this family group? Maybe we > will turn up something. :-* > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Forum http://members.tripod.com/Coker_Forum/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Would anyone on this list know anything about a James Coker, born 1812 in North Carolina. Wife Ellen, also born 1812 in North Carolina. They appear in the 1850 census of Madison County, TN, with four boys, Alexander, John, James R.W., and Samuel J. Living close by is a John Coker, age 68, Baptist minister and a Rebecca, age 80, both born in North Carolina. I am wondering if John is the father of James and who is Rebecca; maybe John's Mother? Any input appreciated. Becky

At 08:52 AM 7/14/2005, Dwight wrote: >Hello! Nice to know you have awakened.:) Naps are great, especially when you look at the computer too long and the temp is hitting 100 outside. Dwight, I agree with you completely. My concern is that there are getting to be too many new researchers who accept the information they see on the Internet - without question. I have contacted some who have great charts and hope to find the source so I can research it more and their reply is "I got this off the Internet and don't remember where". Repetition turns written data into what is considered fact after a while. For those of us who did research before the computer age, we take what we see and use it as a resource to prove or disprove or expand the story. I've forgotten which Coker is your direct line - don't tell me it's John, son of Joseph, who appeared in Joseph's 1792 will as "John, my youngest son". Shall we start some new discussion in this family group? Maybe we will turn up something. :-*

Hello! Nice to know you have awakened.:) Why did Dicey go back to Laurens SC.? "It is doubtful since she is said to be living in Jackson Co GA when she (And Children) came back to argue her case in Laurens". Dicey never returned to GA. Why? Dicey (ticklish and ever changing) is a nickname for Nancy is from Ann/Anne. You are right about more documentation is needed but these assumptions family stories can not be over looked as pure wrong information. Some parts are correct some not so correct and some just plain made up. Since i am in you line I try to keep in line with your thinking but do not totally dismiss other data not totally proven. We are still searching and recording of facts. Have a good day & TTYL: Dwight Stipes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Battaglia" <bobbatt@texas.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] Novel about Cokers > At 09:06 AM 7/10/2005, Dwight Stipes wrote: >>See this family line. >>1. Joseph8 Coker (John Jr.7, John Sr.6, William5, John4, John3, William2, >>Thomas1) was born 1715 in James City, Virginia, and died 1792 in Laurens >>County, South Carolina. He married Mary Aldridge 1745 in Virginia. She was >>born 1731 in Roanoke, Virginia, and died 1800 in Greene Co., NC.. >>One of his sons: >>16. John9 Coker (Joseph8, John Jr.7, John Sr.6, William5, John4, John3, >>William2, Thomas1) was born Abt. 1778 in Laurens, SC., and died Bet. >>1809 - 1869 in Talledega Co., AL or PA?. He married (1) Nancy "Dicy" >>Maiden? Coker 1791-1826. She was born Est. 1751-1778, and died Est. >>1803-1869. He married (2) Annie Ratliff Abt. 1803 in Franklin Co., TN.. >>She was born Bef. 1790 in GEORGIA, and died Bet. 1809 - 1880. > > Dwight, I don't know who wrote this, but in the #16. John9 Coker above, I > really have to question the accuracy without documentation. Our Coker > Clan (San Antonio) claims the above John9 was the father of John b.ca1789, > James b.1797 and Joseph b. 1799. His wife was named Dicey ??. Dicey > appears in the 1810 Laurens SC census with 3 males. There were several > John Cokers in the early Laurens time-frame. One was married to a Nancy > ?? based on her claim of dower rights on property they had sold in the > late 1700's. Is Dicey the same as Nancy? It is doubtful since she is > said to be living in Jackson Co GA when she came back to argue her case in > Laurens. Another John Coker was a Justice of the Peace in Laurens around > 1800. We know that John9 was related to Isaac Malcolm Dial by Dial's > marriage to two Coker cousins from Joseph8' family. This is proven by a > letter written in 1861 by James Laurens Dial, son of Isaac Malcom, to a > brother in which he acknowledges the Cokers living in San Antonio (John > and Joseph) were his "kin". > > Joseph8 above did not name his daughters in his will of 1792. There were > several researchers in the 1930's who have passed on now that claimed he > had about 5. We know of one, Jeanette. > > I am presenting this in a nutshell without looking up my references, so I > apologize if I didn't cover more detail. There just aren't many documents > that prove anything after the will of Joseph8 in 1792. Maybe a "novel" is > the best way to present it as long as everyone knows it's a novel and not > necessarily fact. I still enjoy the search for that one missing document > that will clear things up a little bit. > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Querie Board > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=an&p=surnames.coker > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I read this on another site and it fits. I though I would repeat it on this site. Message Board Post: This is not a criticism. But, most of these early genealogies are confabulations that are created from a variety of records. They are often not fact but speculation. It doesn't mean they are substantively wrong either, but if you can find one that is 80% correct it is a good thing. David Dwight Stipes

Are any of these Cokers related to John Michael Coker who was married to Susanna. John Michael died 1799. Do not know is ages but his children were grown and married and their children were almost grown. Paula Researching Sextons, Cokers and Piersons

At 09:06 AM 7/10/2005, Dwight Stipes wrote: >See this family line. >1. Joseph8 Coker (John Jr.7, John Sr.6, William5, John4, John3, William2, >Thomas1) was born 1715 in James City, Virginia, and died 1792 in Laurens >County, South Carolina. He married Mary Aldridge 1745 in Virginia. She was >born 1731 in Roanoke, Virginia, and died 1800 in Greene Co., NC.. >One of his sons: >16. John9 Coker (Joseph8, John Jr.7, John Sr.6, William5, John4, John3, >William2, Thomas1) was born Abt. 1778 in Laurens, SC., and died Bet. 1809 >- 1869 in Talledega Co., AL or PA?. He married (1) Nancy "Dicy" Maiden? >Coker 1791-1826. She was born Est. 1751-1778, and died Est. 1803-1869. >He married (2) Annie Ratliff Abt. 1803 in Franklin Co., TN.. She was born >Bef. 1790 in GEORGIA, and died Bet. 1809 - 1880. Dwight, I don't know who wrote this, but in the #16. John9 Coker above, I really have to question the accuracy without documentation. Our Coker Clan (San Antonio) claims the above John9 was the father of John b.ca1789, James b.1797 and Joseph b. 1799. His wife was named Dicey ??. Dicey appears in the 1810 Laurens SC census with 3 males. There were several John Cokers in the early Laurens time-frame. One was married to a Nancy ?? based on her claim of dower rights on property they had sold in the late 1700's. Is Dicey the same as Nancy? It is doubtful since she is said to be living in Jackson Co GA when she came back to argue her case in Laurens. Another John Coker was a Justice of the Peace in Laurens around 1800. We know that John9 was related to Isaac Malcolm Dial by Dial's marriage to two Coker cousins from Joseph8' family. This is proven by a letter written in 1861 by James Laurens Dial, son of Isaac Malcom, to a brother in which he acknowledges the Cokers living in San Antonio (John and Joseph) were his "kin". Joseph8 above did not name his daughters in his will of 1792. There were several researchers in the 1930's who have passed on now that claimed he had about 5. We know of one, Jeanette. I am presenting this in a nutshell without looking up my references, so I apologize if I didn't cover more detail. There just aren't many documents that prove anything after the will of Joseph8 in 1792. Maybe a "novel" is the best way to present it as long as everyone knows it's a novel and not necessarily fact. I still enjoy the search for that one missing document that will clear things up a little bit.

No, there is no direct connection to Annie Ratliff . There may be some remote branch the connects but to date it is unknown. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Youngmuscat1@aol.com> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [Coker] Novel about Cokers > Dwight. I have grandparents down the line by the name of Joseph and Annie > Coker. They had a daughter Rebecca that married William Daniels. Rebecca > is > buried in a Coker family cemetery in Oklahoma. Her daughter Missouri Ann > is > buried in our Ball cemetery in Oklahoma. She is my greatgrandmother. Her > daughter > Lydia, my grandmother, and my mother are also buried there. Do you have > anything to show if this is the same Annie Ratliff Coker? I do not have a > last > name for Annie, so I am hoping it is. Joseph was the son of William "Buck" > Coker. I would appreciate any help. Thank you Patsy Young > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Subscription management instructions are posted at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Dwight. I have grandparents down the line by the name of Joseph and Annie Coker. They had a daughter Rebecca that married William Daniels. Rebecca is buried in a Coker family cemetery in Oklahoma. Her daughter Missouri Ann is buried in our Ball cemetery in Oklahoma. She is my greatgrandmother. Her daughter Lydia, my grandmother, and my mother are also buried there. Do you have anything to show if this is the same Annie Ratliff Coker? I do not have a last name for Annie, so I am hoping it is. Joseph was the son of William "Buck" Coker. I would appreciate any help. Thank you Patsy Young

See this family line. 1. Joseph8 Coker (John Jr.7, John Sr.6, William5, John4, John3, William2, Thomas1) was born 1715 in James City, Virginia, and died 1792 in Laurens County, South Carolina. He married Mary Aldridge 1745 in Virginia. She was born 1731 in Roanoke, Virginia, and died 1800 in Greene Co., NC.. One of his sons: 16. John9 Coker (Joseph8, John Jr.7, John Sr.6, William5, John4, John3, William2, Thomas1) was born Abt. 1778 in Laurens, SC., and died Bet. 1809 - 1869 in Talledega Co., AL or PA?. He married (1) Nancy "Dicy" Maiden? Coker 1791-1826. She was born Est. 1751-1778, and died Est. 1803-1869. He married (2) Annie Ratliff Abt. 1803 in Franklin Co., TN.. She was born Bef. 1790 in GEORGIA, and died Bet. 1809 - 1880. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Char Hampton" <champ13401@tampabay.rr.com> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [Coker] Novel about Cokers > Dwight, please give their line of descendancy. I have a dozen or more > John Coker's in my file, some with unknown spouses, and one > Annie, but not an Annie Ratliff? I may pursue buying that book, > especially if they are mine. Thanks Char > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dwight Stipes" <dwightstipes@adelphia.net> > To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 8:45 AM > Subject: Re: [Coker] Novel about Cokers > > >> No, They are real character, real People, Coker ancestors > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Forum http://members.tripod.com/Coker_Forum/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Dwight, please give their line of descendancy. I have a dozen or more John Coker's in my file, some with unknown spouses, and one Annie, but not an Annie Ratliff? I may pursue buying that book, especially if they are mine. Thanks Char ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwight Stipes" <dwightstipes@adelphia.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Coker] Novel about Cokers > No, They are real character, real People, Coker ancestors

No, They are real character, real People, Coker ancestors ----- Original Message ----- From: "Char Hampton" <champ13401@tampabay.rr.com> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [Coker] Novel about Cokers > Hi Cokers Do we know anything about these Cokers? Are they fictional > characters only? Char > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Buckupbucko@cox.net> > To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:51 AM > Subject: [Coker] Novel about Cokers > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Surnames: Coker, Ratliff, Cummins >> Classification: Biography >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BVJ.2ACIB/1270 > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Subscription management instructions are posted at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Cokers Do we know anything about these Cokers? Are they fictional characters only? Char ----- Original Message ----- From: <Buckupbucko@cox.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:51 AM Subject: [Coker] Novel about Cokers > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Coker, Ratliff, Cummins > Classification: Biography > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BVJ.2ACIB/1270

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Coker, Ratliff, Cummins Classification: Biography Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BVJ.2ACIB/1270 Message Board Post: There is a new novel out that is based on John Coker and Annie Ratliff. It is an interesting story and a good read. The website is http://outskirtspress.com/Anniesbook I read it and understand that there will be a sequel about William Coker and Ellen Jane Cummins.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/1269 Message Board Post: I am looking for more information on LYDIA CHARLOTTIA OLIVER, 2nd wife to JOEL EMBREY BUCKLEY. her parents were JOHN OLIVER and LUCINDA COKER. they had 7 children: BEULAH BELL (b. 12 nov 1889), STELLA PEARL (b. 09 may 1892), ANNIE MAE (b. 07 jun 1894), JOHN HENRY (b. 11 nov 1896), LILLE VANETTA (b. 08 sep 1899), CHARLES EDWARD (b. 11 jul 1902), and ROSALEE (b. 17 dec 1904). ANY information on any of these names, especially LUCINDA COKER and her husband, JOHN OLIVER would be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Coker, Blanchard Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BVJ.2ACIB/1268 Message Board Post: James O. Coker, 70, of Frisco, passed away on Thursday, June 16, 2005 at the Presbyterian Hospital of Plano. He was born on October 26, 1934 in Dallas the son of James, Sr. and Ruby Blanchard Coker. He served his country in the National Guard and spent 38 years as a firefighter. He was preceded in death by his parents and his son, John P. Coker in 1992. Mr. Coker is survived by his wife, Carol Coker of Frisco; two sons, James D. Coker of Jackson, Mississippi; and Brian K. Coker of McKinney; daughter, Kelley Jo Stebbins of Lewisville; eight grandchildren; brother, Gary Coker of Tioga, Texas; and sister, Linda Nix of Fairview, Texas. He is also survived by a host of other extended family and close friends. Funeral services will be held on Monday, June 20, 2005 at 2:00 p.m. in the chapel of Dalton & Son Funeral Home of Lewisville with Chaplain Mark Chambers officiating. Interment will follow at Crown Hill Memorial Park in Dallas. Visitation will be held on Saturday, June 18, 2005 from noon until 3:00 p.m. also at the funeral home. Dalton & Son Funeral Home Lewisville, Texas 972-436-6511

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/1264.1 Message Board Post: i was told caleb and mary was my 5th great grand father thomas coker parents?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BVJ.2ACIB/1226.1 Message Board Post: In your book, would you look for a James (Jim) F. Coker. He would of died in the 1910-1920 range in that county in OK. My email address is gwisdom@sbcglobal.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/1267 Message Board Post: looking for J. C. Coker of Texas, was in Fort Worth about 1921-1922