Hi Dwight, What do you mean by see immigration? I researched Hiram Coker and came to a dead-end. Beth G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwight Stipes" <dwightstipes@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: [Coker] Hiram Coker, b. abt 1810; married Walton Co., GA 1829 > Muscogee Co., GA 1840 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jannt@comcast.net> > To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Message Board Post: > > > > Seeking information regarding Hiram Coker, born about 1829; married > > Elizabeth Whitten 17 December 1829 Walton Co., GA. They were in 1830 > > Walton Co., GA census; 1840 Muscogee Co., GA census [where his oldest son, > > Valentine Martin (or Marlin) had been born in 1832]; 1850 Muscogee Co., > > census; 1860 Chatthoochee Co., GA census (where the name was spelled > > "Koker"). > > > > The children of Hiram and Elizabeth, as listed in the 1850 Muscogee Co. > > census were: > > Valentine Martin Coker, b. 18 Aug 1832 Muscogee Co. > > William Coker, b. abt 1834 > > Seaborn Coker, b. abt 1836 > > Duncan E. Coker, b. abt 1836 > > Mary L. (Missouri) Coker , b. abt 1842 > > Martha Coker, b. abt 1844 > > Ludoskie (female), b. abt 1846 > > (The census taker failed to record the birth place of anyone in this > > family in that census!) > > > > Being descended from that oldest son, I have been able to follow Valentine > > Martin/Marlin Coker through 1850, 1860, the War Between the States, and > > 1870, until his death in 1872. > > > > What I wish to learn is: > > Who were the parents of Hiram Coker? > > WHAT happened to the other sons of Hiram? The 3 daughters and 1 other > > son, Anderson Joseph, b. abt 1851, were with Hiram in the 1860 > > Chatthoochee Co. census, but not one of the other sons can be found after > > 1850.

Does anybody know anything about this Coker family living in neighboring Pike and Clark Counties Arkansas in 1830 - 1850s? Some of them later moved to Wood and Hunt Counties in Texas. I am particularly interested in who Martha "Marthy" Coker is. Who was her Coker husband? Can anybody help? Did Martha have a daughter Francis born abt 1813 or a daughter Cynthia born between 1800 and 1810? 1830 Clark County AR Census Missouri Township Martha Coker 1 male 5-9 years 2 males 15-19 years 1 female 15-19 years (born 1811 - 1815) 1 female 40-49 years (born between 1781 - 1790) 1840 Pike County AR Census Census_Year 1840 Microfilm # M704-19 State Arkansas County Pike District Thompson Township Enumerator Richard L. Wilson Assistant Marshal 16 Lydia Coker 1 male 5-10 years 2 females 0-5 years 1 female 20-30 years (b 1810 - 1820) 19 Marthy Coker 1 male 0-5 years (male child born 1845 - 1840 son of 20-30 year old female?) 1 male 20-30 years born 1810 - 1820 possible husband of 20-30 female?) 1 female 0-5 years (female child born 1845 - 1840 possible daughter of 20-30 female?) 1 female 20-30 years (very likely the female age 15-19 living in home in 1830 born 1810 - 1820) 1 female 70-80 years (Marthy Coker 1760 - 1770 in 1830 Martha's age rane buts her birth btw 1781 - 1790) Note: I presume Martha "Marthy" Coker died between 1840 and 1850. Not on the 1850 census. 1850 Pike Co., AR Census Schedule 1. Free inhabitants in Thompson Township, in the County of Pike, State of Arkansas, enumerated by me on the 6th day of December, 1850. William H. Preston, Ass't Marshal. 301/301 Wyon Davis 25 m Farmer Arkansas Fanny M. 23 f Arkansas Jesse P. 2 months m Arkansas 302/302 Lydia (Davis) Coker 34 f Illinois (born abt. 1816) A.T. 15 m Laborer Arkansas Lucinda J. 13 f Arkansas Stacia 9 f Arkansas James T. 3 m Arkansas Note: LYDIA DORRIS2 DAVIS (JEREMIAH1) was born Abt. 1816 in Jackson County, Illinois, and died Bef. 1936. She married JOHN COKER 1834 in Pike County, Arkansas. He was born Abt. 1816 in prob. Illinois, and died Bef. 1936. 074/074 John M. Davis 22 m Farmer $40 Arkansas Stacia (Davis) 63 f N. Carolina Edey 16 f Arkansas 1860 Pike County Census Dwelling/Family: 45/45 Coker, Lydia 44 f IL Coker, Franklin 13 m AR Coker, N. A. 6 f AR Marriages Clark County AR John C. Coker married Susanna Hopkins on 21 Jan 1833 Hempstead County AR James J. coker married Mrs Kesiah Johnson on 3 Feb 1842 Hempstead County Coker, James J. to Mrs. Keziah Johnson 1842 Coker, Samuel J. to Sarah A Pressley 1864 **************************************************************** Sharp Cemetery Yantis, Wood Co.Texas COKER, Margaret R. (wife of J C COKER) 2 July 1842 - 10 Nov 1892 COKER, J. C. (Masonic Emb) 25 Nov 1842 - 2 Feb 1882 COKER, W. M. (Husbnad of E J COKER) 7 Jan 1820 - 13 Jan 1884 COKER, E. J. (wife of W M COKER) 10 Jan 1830 - 17 Jan 1884 COKER, John V. (replaces broken marker) 27 May 1847 - 23 May 1896 COKER, Josephine 14 Feb 1853 - 22 Apr 1935 Note: Other Coker also buried here. Some of the Coker in Pike County, AR moved to Hunt and then to Wood Co., TX Wood Co., TX Confederate Indigent Families Lists (1863-1865) Coker, J S Coker, S Coker, Thomas Hunt Co., TX Registered Voters 1868 COKER, T.J. ***************************************************** "Family Tradition" says that Francis and Cynthia are sisters. Don't know if it is true though. "Family Tradition" says that Francis maiden name was Coker. Both Francis and Cynthia were wives of John Swanson Yarbrough. Cynthia and John Swanson Yarbrough married about 1826 in possibly Arkansas, maybe Pike County. We do know that John Swanson Yarbrough lived in the Clark and Hempstead Co., AR area during this time. John Swanson Yarbrough and his family arrived in Texas February 1832. Living in Shelby and later Houston Co., TX. Cynthia died between 1840 - 1845 in presumably Houston Co., TX area. Francis married John Swanson Yarbrough circa 1845 in possibly Houston Co., TX. Any help on who Martha "Marthy" Coker is would be appreciated. Who was her Coker husband? What was Martha's maiden name? Did she have a daughter Francis born about 1813? Did she have a daughter Cynthia Ann born between 1800 and 1810? Sincerely, Renee Pierce Smelley Longview, Texas Renee's Family Genealogy _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~yarbrough_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~yarbrough) John Swanson Yarbrough Archives _http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~yarbrough_ (http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~yarbrough) Co K 2nd Texas Cavalry / Texas Mounted Volunteers CSA _http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~yarbrough_ (http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~yarbrough) McMullen County TXGenWeb Project _http://www.rootsweb.com/~txmcmull/_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~txmcmull/) Uvalde County TXGenWeb Project _http://www.rootsweb.com/~txuvalde_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~txuvalde)

There was a Coker family in McMullen County, Texas in the mid to late 1800s. I have pulled up the links to any Coker information if anybody is interested in this Coker family. A note before you start. McMullen County was created in 1856, but not until 1877 was it officially organized. Prior to 1877 records for McMullen County citizens are most likely to be found in Live Oak County and some records, such as marriage are also found in Atascosa County. Marriages <http://www.rootsweb.com/~txmcmull/vitals/earlybride.htm <http://www.rootsweb.com/~txmcmull/vitals/earlymarriages.htm Census <http://www.rootsweb.com/~txmcmull/census/1880revised.htm <http://www.rootsweb.com/~txmcmull/census/1880revised.htm Historical Markers <http://www.rootsweb.com/~txmcmull/census/1880revised.htm San Caja Hill Live Oak County, Texas Marriages <http://www.rootsweb.com/~txmcmull/vitals/lovol1.htm <http://www.rootsweb.com/~txmcmull/vitals/lovol2.htm I can do lookups for the Live Oak marriage Index Renee Smelley McMullen County TXGenWeb Project <http://www.rootsweb.com/~txmcmull In a message dated 7/21/2005 10:45:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bobbatt@texas.net writes: At 06:50 AM 7/21/2005, Vida wrote: >Lena Coker was her given name. She had two sisters Ida May and Minnie >Coker and one brother George Ed Coker. Her father was George W. Coker and >her grandparents were William and Jane Coker. William and Jane were >married in Franklin Co. Tennessee on April 4, 1843 and are buried in >Sulpher Springs, Tx. I believe William had a brother John and his wife >Elizabeth. I believe William and John were brothers and Jane and >Elizabeth were sisters. My grandmother Lena Coker said she was related to >the Cokers in San Antonio. I was born and raised in San Antonio and have >been out to the cemetary. I haven't made any connections yet. The Coker family in San Antonio, as you probably know, is descended from Joseph Coker who is buried at the Coker Cemetery. From this family I cannot see any relationship to Lena. However, we never know what being "related" might mean. The 1880 census of Hopkins Co (Sulphur Springs TX) shows a George W. Coker age 25 born TN and wife Balzonia age 21 born TN; no children. It also shows a W.M. Coker age 62 born AL and wife Sarah age 59 born MS. Living with them is a Caroline Johnson, relationship called "other" age 27 born MS and young male Willie Johnson age10 born MS, relationship "other". Then one g-son Isaac Coker age 7, born TX. I don't know if this helps any or not. As you can see in this 1880 census, we cannot identify your William and Jane, but they could have died before the census. This Caroline Johnson could be a widowed/divorced niece to W.M. or Sarah. Next door on the census to W.M. Coker & family is J. L. Coker age 32 born MS and wife Elizabeth age 33 born AR. They have three daus showing all born TX and listed by initials only: M.A., A.L. and S.I. ages 5 down to 9 months. Let me know if this gives any clues. Also let me know if you have come across any of these surnames in Sulphur Springs: Moore, Jones, Goodwyn, McMeans or Capps. Sincerely, Renee Pierce Smelley Longview, Texas _Renee's Family Genealogy_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~yarbrough/) _Renee's Family Genealogy - GenLinks Page_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~yarbrough/genlinks.htm) _Yarbrough, John Swanson - Archives_ (http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~yarbrough/) _CSA - 2nd Texas Cavalry CO. K_ (http://freepages.military.rootsweb.com/~yarbrough/) County Coordinator _McMullen County TXGenWeb Project_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~txmcmull/) _Hallsville Little League Football Association_ (http://hllfa.freeservers.com/) Archivist for _South Central Region - TXGenWeb Archives_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/scentral.htm) _Texas Tombstone Project Manager - USGenWeb Archives_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/Texas/) _Top 100 Online Cemetery Transcriptions_ (http://www.topsitelists.com/homestead/RSmelley/)

See Immigration for Family of Hiram Coker/Koker???? ----- Original Message ----- From: <jannt@comcast.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: [Coker] Hiram Coker, b. abt 1810; married Walton Co., GA 1829 > Muscogee Co., GA 1840 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BVJ.2ACIB/1285 > > Message Board Post: > > Seeking information regarding Hiram Coker, born about 1829; married > Elizabeth Whitten 17 December 1829 Walton Co., GA. They were in 1830 > Walton Co., GA census; 1840 Muscogee Co., GA census [where his oldest son, > Valentine Martin (or Marlin) had been born in 1832]; 1850 Muscogee Co., > census; 1860 Chatthoochee Co., GA census (where the name was spelled > "Koker"). > > The children of Hiram and Elizabeth, as listed in the 1850 Muscogee Co. > census were: > Valentine Martin Coker, b. 18 Aug 1832 Muscogee Co. > William Coker, b. abt 1834 > Seaborn Coker, b. abt 1836 > Duncan E. Coker, b. abt 1836 > Mary L. (Missouri) Coker , b. abt 1842 > Martha Coker, b. abt 1844 > Ludoskie (female), b. abt 1846 > (The census taker failed to record the birth place of anyone in this > family in that census!) > > Being descended from that oldest son, I have been able to follow Valentine > Martin/Marlin Coker through 1850, 1860, the War Between the States, and > 1870, until his death in 1872. > > What I wish to learn is: > Who were the parents of Hiram Coker? > WHAT happened to the other sons of Hiram? The 3 daughters and 1 other > son, Anderson Joseph, b. abt 1851, were with Hiram in the 1860 > Chatthoochee Co. census, but not one of the other sons can be found after > 1850. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > Janice, Marietta, GA > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Message Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/Coker > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

See Civil War deaths the were the right age to enlist. ----- Original Message ----- From: <jannt@comcast.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: [Coker] Hiram Coker, b. abt 1810; married Walton Co., GA 1829 > Muscogee Co., GA 1840 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BVJ.2ACIB/1285 > > Message Board Post: > > Seeking information regarding Hiram Coker, born about 1829; married > Elizabeth Whitten 17 December 1829 Walton Co., GA. They were in 1830 > Walton Co., GA census; 1840 Muscogee Co., GA census [where his oldest son, > Valentine Martin (or Marlin) had been born in 1832]; 1850 Muscogee Co., > census; 1860 Chatthoochee Co., GA census (where the name was spelled > "Koker"). > > The children of Hiram and Elizabeth, as listed in the 1850 Muscogee Co. > census were: > Valentine Martin Coker, b. 18 Aug 1832 Muscogee Co. > William Coker, b. abt 1834 > Seaborn Coker, b. abt 1836 > Duncan E. Coker, b. abt 1836 > Mary L. (Missouri) Coker , b. abt 1842 > Martha Coker, b. abt 1844 > Ludoskie (female), b. abt 1846 > (The census taker failed to record the birth place of anyone in this > family in that census!) > > Being descended from that oldest son, I have been able to follow Valentine > Martin/Marlin Coker through 1850, 1860, the War Between the States, and > 1870, until his death in 1872. > > What I wish to learn is: > Who were the parents of Hiram Coker? > WHAT happened to the other sons of Hiram? The 3 daughters and 1 other > son, Anderson Joseph, b. abt 1851, were with Hiram in the 1860 > Chatthoochee Co. census, but not one of the other sons can be found after > 1850. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > Janice, Marietta, GA > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Message Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/Coker > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Here is what I have for the children of John Coker and Annie Ratliff . The chart you have is about Correct. Annie is Not Nancy or Dicy who was John 1st wife. Children of John Coker and Annie Ratliff are: 4 i. Joseph10 Coker, born 1806 in South Carolina. + 5 ii. Armon Coker, born 1810 in Laurens, South Carolina; died February 18, 1867 in WOOD Co. TX.. + 6 iii. Mansel Coker, born 1816 in South Carolina; died Bet. 1880 - 1900 in Tennessee. + 7 iv. William M. Coker, born January 1, 1820 in TENNESSEE; died January 13, 1884 in Yantis, Wood Co., TX.. 8 v. John Coker, born 1827 in Franklin Co., TN.. He married E. Cummings 1849. + 9 vi. Melmuth Washington Coker, born 1814 in South Carolina. TTYL, Dwight Stipes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Battaglia" <bobbatt@texas.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: [Coker] > Here's a message from 2002 Coker archives. I do not recognize the > sender - see email address "From" below. This person is saying that Annie > Ratliff married a John Coker and they had son named Mansel. If Annie was > born 1786 as shown, she could not have been mother of my 3 brothers: (John > b.1789, James b. 1797 and Joseph b. 1799. Who has the Mansel Coker line? > > > Here are some dates: > /John COKER b: 1778 > /Mansel COKER b: 1814 > | \Annie RATLIFF b: 1786 > /James Campbell COKER b: 13 APR 1836 d: 13 SEP 1915 > | | / GIBSON > | \Mary GIBSON b: MAY 1815 > William Henry COKER b: 7 APR 1872 d: 1919 > | /Amos RICHARDSON b: 1762 > | /Abel RICHARDSON b: 1729 > | | \ ELIZABETH b: 1769 > \Mary Adaline RICHARDSON b: 1843 d: 1929 > \ MARY > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <User128918@aol.com> > To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:43 AM > Subject: Re: [Coker] Franklin County , TN cokers > > > > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Subscription management instructions are posted at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I wish it was, but my John doesn't fit with your line. Thanks for the input. At 11:25 AM 7/21/2005, you wrote: >Message Board Post: > >I have a Lucinda Coker who was born in 1844.(had a twin named John). She >was born in Pike Co., IN., her parents were Aaron Coker and Temperance >Tisdale. Aaron's parents were Jessie Coker and Malinda Richardson. >Beside twin brother John, other brothers were Andrew J., & Matthew. >Sisters were Susanna, Martha, & July A.. >I have more on her family if you believe this is the one you are looking for.

Here's a message from 2002 Coker archives. I do not recognize the sender - see email address "From" below. This person is saying that Annie Ratliff married a John Coker and they had son named Mansel. If Annie was born 1786 as shown, she could not have been mother of my 3 brothers: (John b.1789, James b. 1797 and Joseph b. 1799. Who has the Mansel Coker line? Here are some dates: /John COKER b: 1778 /Mansel COKER b: 1814 | \Annie RATLIFF b: 1786 /James Campbell COKER b: 13 APR 1836 d: 13 SEP 1915 | | / GIBSON | \Mary GIBSON b: MAY 1815 William Henry COKER b: 7 APR 1872 d: 1919 | /Amos RICHARDSON b: 1762 | /Abel RICHARDSON b: 1729 | | \ ELIZABETH b: 1769 \Mary Adaline RICHARDSON b: 1843 d: 1929 \ MARY ----- Original Message ----- From: <User128918@aol.com> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [Coker] Franklin County , TN cokers

Here is some of that more on subject. There does not seem to be anyone on the site who has info or who cares???? PARENTS: Richard Ratliff - born ca. 1780 & Chowayoucah - born ca. 1780 Father: Richard RATLIFF b: Abt 1790 & Mother: CHOW-A-YOU-CAH b: Abt 1800 Name: Richard RATLIFF NSFX: , Sr Title: , Sr Sex: M Birth: Abt 1760 Death: Aft 1835 Event: 1835 Census roll Turkey Town, AL ----------- Name: CHOW-A-YOU-CAH Sex: F Birth: Abt 1800 Event: 1851 Drennan roll Tahlequah, 1 ------------------------------- NOTE: 1851 Drennan roll Tahlequah, 6 as Anne Wickett NOTE: SIBLINGS: Richard RATLIFF , NSFX: , Jr Title: , Jr Sex: M Birth: Abt 1790 Event: 1851 Drennan roll Tahlequah, 1 Event: 1835 Census roll Turkey Town, AL NOTE: BIOGRAPHY: According to Emmett Starr's Genealogy of the Cherokees, Annie was married to John Coker. I've found nothing else to back that up. Coker, (10) 308, 318, 325, 369, 390, 431, 458 Annie Ratliff Coker married Charles Wickett from those census. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Battaglia" <bobbatt@texas.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:34 PM Subject: [Coker] Re: Coker//Ratliff > Theron Smith wrote this in 2001. I haven't heard from him in a good while. > Is Theron still doing Coker research? Anyway this is what he wrote > concerning Annie Ratliff. There were just too many John Cokers around. > Thought I would repeat Theron's notes of 2001. > >>John Coker of Franklin Co. had Armon who m.Nancy Hill, sister of my g gf, >>and his brothers, Melmuth Washington, Mansel, William M and John. Some >>Coker researchers think this is the John who m. Annie Ratliff, presumbaly >>either half or full Cherokee. I'm not convinced. >> >>I ordered a copy of Emmet Starr' book, HISTORY OF THE CHEROKEE INDIANS: >>OLD >>FAMILIES AND THEIR GENEALOGIES (1921) TO CHECK ON THESE AND OTHER CHEROKEE >>CONNECTIONS . >> >>All Starr has (p. 458) is >>1(1) Richard Ratliff >>1(1) 1(2) Annie Ratliff. [m.] John Coker. >> >>Our John's wife may have been an ANN, but there is some evidence that she >>was named PHOEBE! >>So nothing definite. > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Querie Board > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=an&p=surnames.coker > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

At 06:50 AM 7/21/2005, Vida wrote: >Lena Coker was her given name. She had two sisters Ida May and Minnie >Coker and one brother George Ed Coker. Her father was George W. Coker and >her grandparents were William and Jane Coker. William and Jane were >married in Franklin Co. Tennessee on April 4, 1843 and are buried in >Sulpher Springs, Tx. I believe William had a brother John and his wife >Elizabeth. I believe William and John were brothers and Jane and >Elizabeth were sisters. My grandmother Lena Coker said she was related to >the Cokers in San Antonio. I was born and raised in San Antonio and have >been out to the cemetary. I haven't made any connections yet. The Coker family in San Antonio, as you probably know, is descended from Joseph Coker who is buried at the Coker Cemetery. From this family I cannot see any relationship to Lena. However, we never know what being "related" might mean. The 1880 census of Hopkins Co (Sulphur Springs TX) shows a George W. Coker age 25 born TN and wife Balzonia age 21 born TN; no children. It also shows a W.M. Coker age 62 born AL and wife Sarah age 59 born MS. Living with them is a Caroline Johnson, relationship called "other" age 27 born MS and young male Willie Johnson age10 born MS, relationship "other". Then one g-son Isaac Coker age 7, born TX. I don't know if this helps any or not. As you can see in this 1880 census, we cannot identify your William and Jane, but they could have died before the census. This Caroline Johnson could be a widowed/divorced niece to W.M. or Sarah. Next door on the census to W.M. Coker & family is J. L. Coker age 32 born MS and wife Elizabeth age 33 born AR. They have three daus showing all born TX and listed by initials only: M.A., A.L. and S.I. ages 5 down to 9 months. Let me know if this gives any clues. Also let me know if you have come across any of these surnames in Sulphur Springs: Moore, Jones, Goodwyn, McMeans or Capps.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BVJ.2ACIB/1269.1 Message Board Post: I have a Lucinda Coker who was born in 1844.(had a twin named John). She was born in Pike Co., IN., her parents were Aaron Coker and Temperance Tisdale. Aaron's parents were Jessie Coker and Malinda Richardson. Beside twin brother John, other brothers were Andrew J., & Matthew. Sisters were Susanna, Martha, & July A.. I have more on her family if you believe this is the one you are looking for.

See SIBLING:????CENSUS: Year: 1930; Census Place: Gadsden, Etowah, Alabama; Roll: 16; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 13; Image: 530.0. John Coker Gadsden, Etowah, AL abt 1882 Alabama Head Minnie L Coker Gadsden, Etowah, AL abt 1892 Wife Willie Coker Gadsden, Etowah, AL abt 1912 Son Lonie Coker Gadsden, Etowah, AL abt 1916 Daughter Mary L Coker Gadsden, Etowah, AL abt 1923 Daughter John Coker Gadsden, Etowah, AL abt 1927 Son ----- Original Message ----- From: <rpms2005@yahoo.com> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: [Coker] looking for INFO. on Jennie,Betty,Lucenda Coker > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Coker/ Shoemaker > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/1284 > > Message Board Post: > > I am trying to find any INFo on Jennie,Betty,lucinda Coker > Shoemaker.Jennie was born-june-5-1884 d-Oct-1-1939 Dalton,Ga Her OBIT. > Says she had one Brother John Coker of Gadsden, AL > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Message Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/Coker > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

See 1900 Census ths looks like need more proof????John N Shoemaker Phillips, Etowah, Alabama abt 1866 Georgia White Head CENSUS: Year: 1900; Census Place: Phillips, Etowah, Alabama; Roll: T623 15; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 149. John N Shoemaker Phillips, Etowah, Alabama 39 Jul 1865 abt 1866 Georgia White Head Martha L Shoemaker 33yrs Oct 1866AL Wife ----- Original Message ----- From: <rpms2005@yahoo.com> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: [Coker] looking for INFO. on Jennie,Betty,Lucenda Coker > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Coker/ Shoemaker > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/1284 > > Message Board Post: > > I am trying to find any INFo on Jennie,Betty,lucinda Coker > Shoemaker.Jennie was born-june-5-1884 d-Oct-1-1939 Dalton,Ga Her OBIT. > Says she had one Brother John Coker of Gadsden, AL > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Message Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/Coker > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

CENSUS: Year: 1930; Census Place: Dalton, Whitfield, Georgia; Roll: 393; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 12; Image: 299.0. John N Shoemaker Dalton, Whitfield, GA abt 1863 Georgia Head Jennie Shoemaker Dalton, Whitfield, GA abt 1881 Wife Jack Shoemaker Dalton, Whitfield, GA abt 1911 Son Carry B Shoemaker Dalton, Whitfield, GA abt 1913 Daughter Fate Shoemaker Dalton, Whitfield, GA abt 1914 Son Lillie M Shoemaker Dalton, Whitfield, GA abt 1919 Daughter Hubert Lee Shoemaker Dalton, Whitfield, GA abt 1922 Son ----- Original Message ----- From: <rpms2005@yahoo.com> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: [Coker] looking for INFO. on Jennie,Betty,Lucenda Coker > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Coker/ Shoemaker > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/1284 > > Message Board Post: > > I am trying to find any INFo on Jennie,Betty,lucinda Coker > Shoemaker.Jennie was born-june-5-1884 d-Oct-1-1939 Dalton,Ga Her OBIT. > Says she had one Brother John Coker of Gadsden, AL > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Message Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/Coker > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BVJ.2ACIB/1285 Message Board Post: Seeking information regarding Hiram Coker, born about 1829; married Elizabeth Whitten 17 December 1829 Walton Co., GA. They were in 1830 Walton Co., GA census; 1840 Muscogee Co., GA census [where his oldest son, Valentine Martin (or Marlin) had been born in 1832]; 1850 Muscogee Co., census; 1860 Chatthoochee Co., GA census (where the name was spelled "Koker"). The children of Hiram and Elizabeth, as listed in the 1850 Muscogee Co. census were: Valentine Martin Coker, b. 18 Aug 1832 Muscogee Co. William Coker, b. abt 1834 Seaborn Coker, b. abt 1836 Duncan E. Coker, b. abt 1836 Mary L. (Missouri) Coker , b. abt 1842 Martha Coker, b. abt 1844 Ludoskie (female), b. abt 1846 (The census taker failed to record the birth place of anyone in this family in that census!) Being descended from that oldest son, I have been able to follow Valentine Martin/Marlin Coker through 1850, 1860, the War Between the States, and 1870, until his death in 1872. What I wish to learn is: Who were the parents of Hiram Coker? WHAT happened to the other sons of Hiram? The 3 daughters and 1 other son, Anderson Joseph, b. abt 1851, were with Hiram in the 1860 Chatthoochee Co. census, but not one of the other sons can be found after 1850. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Janice, Marietta, GA

Theron Smith wrote this in 2001. I haven't heard from him in a good while. Is Theron still doing Coker research? Anyway this is what he wrote concerning Annie Ratliff. There were just too many John Cokers around. Thought I would repeat Theron's notes of 2001. >John Coker of Franklin Co. had Armon who m.Nancy Hill, sister of my g gf, >and his brothers, Melmuth Washington, Mansel, William M and John. Some >Coker researchers think this is the John who m. Annie Ratliff, presumbaly >either half or full Cherokee. I'm not convinced. > >I ordered a copy of Emmet Starr' book, HISTORY OF THE CHEROKEE INDIANS: OLD >FAMILIES AND THEIR GENEALOGIES (1921) TO CHECK ON THESE AND OTHER CHEROKEE >CONNECTIONS . > >All Starr has (p. 458) is >1(1) Richard Ratliff >1(1) 1(2) Annie Ratliff. [m.] John Coker. > >Our John's wife may have been an ANN, but there is some evidence that she >was named PHOEBE! >So nothing definite.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Coker/ Shoemaker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/1284 Message Board Post: I am trying to find any INFo on Jennie,Betty,lucinda Coker Shoemaker.Jennie was born-june-5-1884 d-Oct-1-1939 Dalton,Ga Her OBIT. Says she had one Brother John Coker of Gadsden, AL

At 08:14 AM 7/18/2005, you wrote: >NOTE: Bob remember this, >1810 Laurens SC, p.283, Dicey with three younger males (sons John, James >and Joseph) I was trying to keep the first email from getting too long. Yes, Dicey shows up as head of household in 1810. The name Dicey doesn't show up again anywhere in Laurens. We assume the three younger males are John 1789, James 1797 and Joseph 1799. Notice there is a gap of 8 years between John and James. Could have been that one or two brothers/sisters died or the first wife died after John's birth. We can't assume Nancy came up with the name Dicey for the 1810 census only. Dicey is nickname more commonly used for Diana, some other more complicated names ending in "......cias, etc.) Who came up with Annie Ratliff being another wife of John? What led to that assumption? The next problem is since Nancy was in Jackson Co GA in 1808 (dowager settlement papers), we could check the 1810 census - but it doesn't exist. Checking the 1809 Tax List, we find only Phillip and Thompson Coker. But then we can't assume Nancy would be on the tax list if she had nothing to tax. One other note on Jackson Co GA. In "Historical Notes by John Elrod" page 212. In the 1807 land lottery, a John Coker is listed along with Robert Coker Sr, who we assume is from Laurens Co. Cokers. Elrod states these records are the the State of GA Archives. So we have a lot of John Cokers with no way to prove who they are. Since John Coker doesn't show up on any other Jackson Co record, we don't know where he ended up. More later, trying to keep focus. More later, trying to keep focus on the problems. >1820 Laurens, p. 014, son John with mother Dicey and son James p. 018, son >Joseph with wife and two children under 10 who I assume are the younger >sister and brother of Malinda Brown, Joseph's wife. Malinda's father died >1813 and her mother, Nancy, remarried by 1820. > >1830 Franklin Co. TN p.63 Joseph with family and older female (50-60) > >living with them. Dicey would have to be 60 years old at this point to >have son John b. 1789. > >p.63 James with family next door. > >I believe that there is a John in the family of Joseph and Mary Aldridge >Coker as a son. There is enough documentation. > >You can not rule out that John married again or that John died or that >John did not die and lived alone. In one state one can be declared dead >after 7yrs of absent from resident and by witness. But did he really die?? >do we have a burial site???? > >Dwight Stipes > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Battaglia" <bobbatt@texas.net> >To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:14 AM >Subject: Re: [Coker] Coker > > >>There's not much activity on here so I would like to start a discussion >>on the Joseph and Mary Aldridge Coker family in Laurens Co. SC. For many >>years I have tried to gather documents that would connect their son, >>John, as the father of three brothers who came to Texas between 1834 & >>1846. The will of Joseph Coker in 1792 names John as "my youngest son". >>He would inherit a horse, a cow & calf and a sow & sowlet. I have a copy >>of the original will. There are problems in identifying this John Coker. >>There are deeds where Nancy Coker, widow of a John Coker applies for >>dower rights on land they sold in 1792 in Laurens Co. It is stated that >>this John Coker died intestate. Nancy is shown to be in Jackson Co GA >>1808 when she receives her dower settlement. >> >>There is at least one more John Coker in Laurens. He shows up in the >>Journals of the Court Book 1. On 16 Nov 1807 the District of Laurens >>Court orders the names of the constables summoned to attend and >>serve........the following answered to wit: John Nabours, John Atwood, >>John McDavid, John Coker and several others. >>Also in the April 1809 term John Coker was called and answered. >>In April 1810 John Coker vs John Meriwether case tried. >> >>Now we have two John Cokers, one married to a Nancy. The other is an >>unknown but could certainly be father to above three brothers. >>Somewhere on here I have seen reference to the fact that John also >>married an Annie Ratliff. I would appreciate learning who this might be. >>The Nancy named here could be a Dial, but I haven't seen any documentation. >> >>I know this can become confusing, but if there are enough descendants of >>the Joseph and Mary Aldridge Coker family, it could be enlightening and >>fun. The other sons of Joseph were William (said to have left home and >>gotten his inheritance early so not mentioned in the will), Drury, Calvin >>and Thomas. Thomas was in RevWar and mentions in his pension that >>Jeanette, his sister, married Col. John Armstrong. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>==== COKER Mailing List ==== >>Subscription management instructions are posted at >>http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > >==== COKER Mailing List ==== >Coker Forum http://members.tripod.com/Coker_Forum/ > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

NOTE: Bob remember this, 1810 Laurens SC, p.283, Dicey with three younger males (sons John, James and Joseph) 1820 Laurens, p. 014, son John with mother Dicey and son James p. 018, son Joseph with wife and two children under 10 who I assume are the younger sister and brother of Malinda Brown, Joseph's wife. Malinda's father died 1813 and her mother, Nancy, remarried by 1820. 1830 Franklin Co. TN p.63 Joseph with family and older female (50-60) living with them. Dicey would have to be 60 years old at this point to have son John b. 1789. p.63 James with family next door. I believe that there is a John in the family of Joseph and Mary Aldridge Coker as a son. There is enough documentation. You can not rule out that John married again or that John died or that John did not die and lived alone. In one state one can be declared dead after 7yrs of absent from resident and by witness. But did he really die?? do we have a burial site???? Dwight Stipes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Battaglia" <bobbatt@texas.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [Coker] Coker > There's not much activity on here so I would like to start a discussion on > the Joseph and Mary Aldridge Coker family in Laurens Co. SC. For many > years I have tried to gather documents that would connect their son, > John, as the father of three brothers who came to Texas between 1834 & > 1846. The will of Joseph Coker in 1792 names John as "my youngest son". He > would inherit a horse, a cow & calf and a sow & sowlet. I have a copy of > the original will. There are problems in identifying this John Coker. > There are deeds where Nancy Coker, widow of a John Coker applies for dower > rights on land they sold in 1792 in Laurens Co. It is stated that this > John Coker died intestate. Nancy is shown to be in Jackson Co GA 1808 > when she receives her dower settlement. > > There is at least one more John Coker in Laurens. He shows up in the > Journals of the Court Book 1. On 16 Nov 1807 the District of Laurens > Court orders the names of the constables summoned to attend and > serve........the following answered to wit: John Nabours, John Atwood, > John McDavid, John Coker and several others. > Also in the April 1809 term John Coker was called and answered. > In April 1810 John Coker vs John Meriwether case tried. > > Now we have two John Cokers, one married to a Nancy. The other is an > unknown but could certainly be father to above three brothers. > Somewhere on here I have seen reference to the fact that John also married > an Annie Ratliff. I would appreciate learning who this might be. > The Nancy named here could be a Dial, but I haven't seen any > documentation. > > I know this can become confusing, but if there are enough descendants of > the Joseph and Mary Aldridge Coker family, it could be enlightening and > fun. The other sons of Joseph were William (said to have left home and > gotten his inheritance early so not mentioned in the will), Drury, Calvin > and Thomas. Thomas was in RevWar and mentions in his pension that > Jeanette, his sister, married Col. John Armstrong. > > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Subscription management instructions are posted at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

There's not much activity on here so I would like to start a discussion on the Joseph and Mary Aldridge Coker family in Laurens Co. SC. For many years I have tried to gather documents that would connect their son, John, as the father of three brothers who came to Texas between 1834 & 1846. The will of Joseph Coker in 1792 names John as "my youngest son". He would inherit a horse, a cow & calf and a sow & sowlet. I have a copy of the original will. There are problems in identifying this John Coker. There are deeds where Nancy Coker, widow of a John Coker applies for dower rights on land they sold in 1792 in Laurens Co. It is stated that this John Coker died intestate. Nancy is shown to be in Jackson Co GA 1808 when she receives her dower settlement. There is at least one more John Coker in Laurens. He shows up in the Journals of the Court Book 1. On 16 Nov 1807 the District of Laurens Court orders the names of the constables summoned to attend and serve........the following answered to wit: John Nabours, John Atwood, John McDavid, John Coker and several others. Also in the April 1809 term John Coker was called and answered. In April 1810 John Coker vs John Meriwether case tried. Now we have two John Cokers, one married to a Nancy. The other is an unknown but could certainly be father to above three brothers. Somewhere on here I have seen reference to the fact that John also married an Annie Ratliff. I would appreciate learning who this might be. The Nancy named here could be a Dial, but I haven't seen any documentation. I know this can become confusing, but if there are enough descendants of the Joseph and Mary Aldridge Coker family, it could be enlightening and fun. The other sons of Joseph were William (said to have left home and gotten his inheritance early so not mentioned in the will), Drury, Calvin and Thomas. Thomas was in RevWar and mentions in his pension that Jeanette, his sister, married Col. John Armstrong.