I have wondered that myself, Dwight, but I don't think I was able to find the family in 1860, etc. I would have to find my notes and look again. I believe there are Seaborn COKERS living in the same area as Alphin in later censuses and that was further consideration for 'Dolphia' being 'Alphin'. Also, an S. D. COKER (some of the records show L. D. COAKER) served in the same Company with him in the Civil War and I thought that he could have been 'Seaborn'. Does anyone have an S. D. COKER or L. D. COKER in their database who lived in Rapides Parish, LA? I'm speculating it is the same person but of course cannot be absolutely sure. Thanks to everyone for your help. Ruth Dwight Stipes wrote: > So far, I have been unable to locate him in the 1850 and 1860 census? > could this be him? > > > CENSUS: *AL Census 1850 for a G. B. Coker, age 40, bn Al. in > 1810,Planter with following children; no wife. > I. JERAMIAH , 29, male, Laborer, bn. Al. > II. JAMES, 14, male, bn. Al.(mostly James E. above) > III. SEBORN , 12,male, bn. Al > ***IV. DOLPHIA ,3, male, bn. Al. > V. WILLIAM A., 10/12, male, bn. Al. ( the A may be ARTHUR OR ABEL) > > Dwight > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <racoker@earthlink.net> > To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Coker] Alphin Lee 'Charley' Coker > > >> Thanks, Beth. I had pretty much eliminated him also but it is good >> to have a second opinion. I'm looking at a possible connection to >> Asa COKER who was in Union Parish at the same time, but haven't found >> anything as of yet. >> >> Beth Gay wrote: >> >>> Sorry I searched and searched but found nothing. I did eliminate Philip >>> Coker, Jr. as the father. >>> >>> Beth G. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <racoker@earthlink.net> >>> snip> >>> >>> >>>> I need help in finding the parents of my husband's ancestor, Alphin >>>> Lee >>>> 'Charley' COKER. >>>> >>>> So far, I have been unable to locate him in the 1850 and 1860 census. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== COKER Mailing List ==== >>> Subscription management instructions are posted at >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== COKER Mailing List ==== >> Subscription management instructions are posted at >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Forum http://members.tripod.com/Coker_Forum/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

So far, I have been unable to locate him in the 1850 and 1860 census? could this be him? CENSUS: *AL Census 1850 for a G. B. Coker, age 40, bn Al. in 1810,Planter with following children; no wife. I. JERAMIAH , 29, male, Laborer, bn. Al. II. JAMES, 14, male, bn. Al.(mostly James E. above) III. SEBORN , 12,male, bn. Al ***IV. DOLPHIA ,3, male, bn. Al. V. WILLIAM A., 10/12, male, bn. Al. ( the A may be ARTHUR OR ABEL) Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: <racoker@earthlink.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] Alphin Lee 'Charley' Coker > Thanks, Beth. I had pretty much eliminated him also but it is good to > have a second opinion. I'm looking at a possible connection to Asa COKER > who was in Union Parish at the same time, but haven't found anything as of > yet. > > Beth Gay wrote: > >>Sorry I searched and searched but found nothing. I did eliminate Philip >>Coker, Jr. as the father. >> >>Beth G. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <racoker@earthlink.net> >>snip> >> >> >>>I need help in finding the parents of my husband's ancestor, Alphin Lee >>>'Charley' COKER. >>> >>>So far, I have been unable to locate him in the 1850 and 1860 census. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>==== COKER Mailing List ==== >>Subscription management instructions are posted at >>http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Subscription management instructions are posted at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Dwight Stipes wrote: > We could keep informing this site and maybe some one who has some > extra time > take on the job??? I could help some? Most of the researchers come & go. > > Dwight > > I'm here all the time, just don't post. I'll look into what is required. I might be able to do it. Laura

We could keep informing this site and maybe some one who has some extra time take on the job??? I could help some? Most of the researchers come & go. Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Gay" <bethg@integrity.com> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] Believed to be descendants of John Coker of Brunswick County, Virginia > Hi Dwight, > > In researching the DNA testing site it appears that the site is being > managed by a non Coker for financial gain and because they are enamored > with > the DNA possbilities. They appear to be searching for a Coker to assume > control of the DNA site. Does anyone have the time to further research DNA > testing and to consider heading this site or starting a new one? > > Beth G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dwight Stipes" <dwightstipes@worldnet.att.net> > To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:36 AM > Subject: Re: [Coker] Believed to be descendants of John Coker of Brunswick > County, Virginia > > >> I an registered DNA/ see http://www.familytreedna.com/contact.html If >> Bob >> would get tested he could be a good subject for his family line. If we > were >> all matched we would know for sure with some scientific support. It's >> easy >> to do. >> >> Dwight > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Subscription management instructions are posted at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Thanks, Beth. I had pretty much eliminated him also but it is good to have a second opinion. I'm looking at a possible connection to Asa COKER who was in Union Parish at the same time, but haven't found anything as of yet. Beth Gay wrote: >Sorry I searched and searched but found nothing. I did eliminate Philip >Coker, Jr. as the father. > >Beth G. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <racoker@earthlink.net> >snip> > > > >>I need help in finding the parents of my husband's ancestor, Alphin Lee >>'Charley' COKER. >> >>So far, I have been unable to locate him in the 1850 and 1860 census. >> >> > > > > > > > > >==== COKER Mailing List ==== >Subscription management instructions are posted at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >

Bob, While searching for that Alphin Coker I noticed that Samson and Priscilla Champion Coker were enumerated in the 1860 census in Bexar County, Texas. Is your family connected to this one? It would be interesting to know if they are buried in that county and if any probate record exists for Samson. Beth G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Battaglia" <bobbatt@satx.rr.com> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] Joseph Coker > At 09:38 PM 2/15/2006, you wrote: > >My mistake, you are correct that the father of Franklin was James Coker. The > >1850 census states that Franklin was studying medicine and born in > >Tennessee. I can send you a report on Robert and his family or a gedcom as > >an attachment if you are interested. > > Beth, I cannot claim Robert Coker as being directly in my line. As I > remember, he is probably a generation or two back from them. I > appreciate the offer, but don't really need the detail on him - at > least for now. No use creating extra work for you or Dwight. > > I failed to answer your question about Joseph Coker staying in Bexar > Co. The answer is yes, he and his descendants pretty much hung > around here for many years. I am historian and secty for the Coker > Cemetery here. Two Cokers attend our quarterly Trustee > meetings. Our cemetery is well kept. We have about 220 descendants > who are on our mailing list. We send out a newsletter twice a year > and have an annual meeting with covered dinner. We have about 50 who > attend this annual meeting. > > Let me know if I can help.

Hi Dwight, In researching the DNA testing site it appears that the site is being managed by a non Coker for financial gain and because they are enamored with the DNA possbilities. They appear to be searching for a Coker to assume control of the DNA site. Does anyone have the time to further research DNA testing and to consider heading this site or starting a new one? Beth G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwight Stipes" <dwightstipes@worldnet.att.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [Coker] Believed to be descendants of John Coker of Brunswick County, Virginia > I an registered DNA/ see http://www.familytreedna.com/contact.html If Bob > would get tested he could be a good subject for his family line. If we were > all matched we would know for sure with some scientific support. It's easy > to do. > > Dwight

Sorry I searched and searched but found nothing. I did eliminate Philip Coker, Jr. as the father. Beth G. ----- Original Message ----- From: <racoker@earthlink.net> snip> > I need help in finding the parents of my husband's ancestor, Alphin Lee > 'Charley' COKER. > > So far, I have been unable to locate him in the 1850 and 1860 census.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/BVJ.2ACIB/1320 Message Board Post: Hi All, I trying to trace ancestors of my G/Grandfather Fuller Coker who Married Julia Ann Dutcher (born 1806 in New York). They were married in New York on the 1st March 1837. They had one son called George and a daughter Sarah Ann. George married Catherine Lynch in York Toronto. then the family came to the UK. Where they had four sons. Can anybody help me trace the parents of Fuller Coker. I have drawn a complete blank. Thanks Bob Rutland (UK)

I need help in finding the parents of my husband's ancestor, Alphin Lee 'Charley' COKER. So far, I have been unable to locate him in the 1850 and 1860 census. Alphin is living in Union Parish, LA in 1870, 1880 and 1900 and shows his birthplace as Alabama. However, the death certificate for his son, Lee COKER, shows he was born in Atlanta, GA. His Civil War records show he was paroled at Davis Co. (now Cass Co.), TX 06 JUN 1865. He was married three times. First wife was Mary BOZEMAN. Their children were Lee (my husband's grandfather), Mary Hettie, Willie and Lennie Etter. My husband's father said that that they are related to the COKERS whose house figured prominently in the Battle of Champion Hill in Mississippi but I haven't been able to find the connection. Below are census transcriptions for Alphin COKER. I will continue to search for Cokers in Alabama, Texas, Georgia and Mississippi in 1850 and 1860. I would appreciate hearing from anyone on the list who might have more information or give me other ideas of where to look. Thanks! Ruth Roberts Coker Arlington, TX ===================================== 1870 U.S. Census - Louisiana - Union Parish - Ward 2 - Marion P.O. Roll: M593-534 - Page 32 - Image 11 of 44 (ancestry.com) - 13 JUL 1870 73/73 COKER, Charles - 25 M W - Occupation is blank - [blank]/$50 - AL Mary - 19 F W - House Keeper - LA ===================================== 1880 U.S. Census - Louisiana - Union Parish - Ward 2 - ED #85 Roll: T9-473 - Page 429D - Image 30 of 40 (ancestry.com) - 23 JUN 1880 COAKER (sic), Alphin* L. - W M 35 - Married - Farming - AL AL AL Mary M. - W F 29 - Wife - Married - Keeping House - Unable to read and write - AL AL NC Andrew(?) Lee* - W M 5 - Son - Single - LA AL AL Mary E.(sic) - W F 3 - Daughter - Single - LA AL AL *'Alphin' is transcribed as 'Nathan' in the ancestry.com index. 'Lee' is transcribed as 'Anton L.' in the ancestry.com index. ===================================== 1900 U.S. Census - Louisiana - Union Parish - Police Jury Ward 3 - ED #119 Roll: T623-585 - Page 12B - Images 24-25 of 40 (ancestry.com) - 14 JUN 1900 [blank]/207 COAKER (sic), Charley - Head - W M Sep 1840 - Age 59 - Widowed - AL Unknown Unknown - Lumber Grader Hettie - Daughter - W F Jan 1877 - Age 23 - Single - LA AL AL ???/208 COAKER (sic), Willy - Head - W M Sep 1880 - Age 19 - Married/0 yrs - LA AL AL - Lumber Grader Ada - Wife - W F March 1886 - Age 14 - Married/0 yrs - 0 kids/0 living - AR Unknown Unknown ===================================== Civil War Record: Civil War Veteran. Served in 3rd LA Cavalry (Harrison's), Company G. Paroled at Monroe, LA, June 6, 1865. Residence, Davis Co., TX. ===================================== Marriage Records: Louisiana Marriage Index (genealogy.com) Coker, Alphine L. Spouse: Mrs. Nancy Bozman Marriage Date: Jun 27, 1884 Location: Union Coker, Alphin L. Spouse: Mrs. Sarah Bozman Marriage Date: May 07, 1893 Location: Union

I am going to jump in here with my problem. I had a McDougal family in Itawamba MS in 1850. There were two children born to Martha McDougal (no marriage recorded). They are listed in the family McDougal Bible as James Franklin Coker b. 1852 and Susan Elizabeth Jane Coker b. 1854 born to Martha McDougal. In 1855 they moved to Polk Co. AR where she married a Man named Hadaway in 1857, using the McDougal name. Does anyone claim two Coker children born in MS at that time? -----Original Message----- From: Beth Gay [mailto:bethg@integrity.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:14 PM To: COKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Coker] Believed to be descendants of John Coker of Brunswick County, Virginia I know that there are many people on our mailing list who have expended much time, effort, and money in an attempt to solve the Coker puzzle. There is a lack of family letters and Bible records for our Coker family that other families have. I am not an organized person but have a lot of data on various segments of this family not yet entered into any program. Is there a certified professional genealogist researching this family that could perhaps coordinate research projects and data done by the various family researchers? We need one central website or database devoted to our family. I don't have the time or expertise to do this but would gladly contribute copies of documents that I have obtained from various courthouses in Alabama, Georgia and Mississippi. There is also the added ingredient of the new field on DNA research. Perhaps someone could initiate a DNA project for the Coker family. We possibly could establish if there is a connection between Caleb Coker and John Coker. Kindest regards, Beth G. ==== COKER Mailing List ==== Subscription management instructions are posted at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I have Joseph B Coker as Descendants of Joseph B. Coker 1. JOSEPH B.1 COKER was born Bet. 1835 - 1837 in ALABAMA, and died Bet. 1863 - 1921. He married MARY ELIZABETH HOLCOMBE October 10, 1861 in Shelby Co., Alabama. She was born 1826 in ALABAMA, and died Bet. 1863 - 1921. Children of JOSEPH COKER and MARY HOLCOMBE are: i. BENJAMIN JACKSON2 COKER, b. June 12, 1857; d. WFT Est. 1858-1947. ii. JAMES HARRISON COKER, b. 1858, Alabama; d. WFT Est. 1859-1948. iii. HUNTER H. COKER, b. February 29, 1860; d. WFT Est. 1861-1950. From WFT, an we all know that most of this info is unproofed -not substantiated donated by family members. Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: <racoker@earthlink.net> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [Coker] Joseph Coker > I've done some further research on this family. I've come to some > conclusions but more research is needed to accept it as true. > > The IGI shows a marriage record between Joseph B. COKER and Mary HOLCOMB > on 10 OCT 1861 in Shelby Co., AL. > > I have transcribed the 1870 Census as follows. It contains some > additional information not shown in Dwight's posting: > > 1870 U.S. Census - Alabama - Shelby Co. - Beat 8 Twp. - Columbiana P.O. > Roll: M593-39 - Page 469 - Image 21 of 26 (ancestry.com) - 13 JUN 1870 > > 132/132 > COKER, > Joseph - 30 M W - Farmer - [blank]/$350 - AL - Unable to read and write > Mary - 36 F W - Keeping House - SC - Unable to read and write > Samuel - 16 M W - Works on farm - AL - Attended School > Frnklin - 14 M W - Works on Farm - AL - Unable to read and write (NOTE: > It does not show that he attended school) > William - 13 M W - Works on Farm - Al - Attended School > Rachel - 7 F W - AL - Attended School > Lenard (sic) - 4 M W - AL > Nora (sic) - 2 M (sic) W - AL > Joseph - 2 months M W - AL > McCLANAHAN, > Leticia (?) - 62 F W - At Home - $40/[blank] - SC Unable to read and > write > > Using the information on Leticia McCLANAHAN from the 1870 census and the > marriage record of Joseph B. COKER and Mary HOLCOMB, I found the following > in the 1860 census: > > 1860 U.S. Census - Alabama - Shelby Co. - Twp. Not Stated - Columbiana > P.O. > Roll: M653-23 - Page 318 - Image 80 of 225 (ancestry.com) - 10 MAY 1860 > > 527/527 > McCLANAHAN, > L. - 52 F - Farmer - $80/$300 - SC - Unable to read and write > HOLCOMBE, > Polly - 25 F - House Keeper - SC - Unable to read and write > Samuel - 7 M - AL > Frank - 5 M - AL > Wm. Edward - 3 M - AL > > L. McCLANAHAN is probably the Leticia(?) McCLANAHAN in the 1870 census and > 'Polly' (Polly HOLCOMBE) was a common nickname for 'Mary'. So, what it > looks like is that Samuel, Franklin and William COKER in the 1870 census > are actually Samuel, Franklin and William HOLCOMBE and are the children of > Mary 'Polly' (McClanahan) HOLCOMBE and her first husband. I'm assuming > that Mary was a widow with 3 children when she married Joseph B. COKER. > Leach Cemetery in Shelby Co., AL shows the following and bears this > assumption out: > HOLCOMBE, Frank 20 Feb 1856 04 Nov 1914 > HOLCOMBE, Martishie 09 May 1860 21 Mar 1946 Wife of Frank > HOLCOMBE > > I found the family in the 1880 census as follows: > > 1880 U.S. Census - Alabama - Shelby Co. - Calera Twp. - ED #123 > Roll: T9-31 - Page 224B - Image 10 of 16 (ancestry.com) - 22 JUN 1880 > > 485/512 > COKER, > Joseph - W M 42 - Married - Farmer - AL AL AL - Unable to read and write > Mary - W F 44 - Wife - Married - Keeping House - SC SC SC - Unable to > read and write > Rachel - W F 17 - Daughter - Single - At Home - Unable to read and > write - AL SC(sic) SC > Leonard - W M 13 - Son - Single - At Home - Works of Farm - Unable to > read and write - AL AL SC > Noah - W M 11 - Son - Single - Works of Farm - Unable to read and write - > AL AL SC > Benjamin - W M 8 - Son - Single - AL AL SC > Lecia (?) - W F 6 - Daughter - Single - AL AL SC > Mary - W F 4 - Daughter - Single - TN AL SC > > In 1900, Joseph has died and Mary is living with her son Leonard as > follows. This agrees with the cemetery records that I posted earlier. > > 1900 U.S. Census - Alabama - Shelby Co. - Columbiana Twp. - ED #120 > Roll: T623-39 - Page 18B - Image 35 of 38 (ancestry.com) - 20 JUN 1900 > > 338/353 > COAKER (sic), > Leonard - Head - W M Feb 1867 - Age 33 - Married/13 yrs - AL AL AL - > Farmer - Unable to read and write > Sallie - Wife - W F June 1861 - Age 38 - Married/13 yrs - 6 kids/6 > living - GA GA GA - Unable to read and write > Clifton - Son - W M July 1887 - Age 12 - Single - Al AL GA - Did not > attend school - Can read but unable to write > Walter - Son - W M May 1889 - Age 11 - Single - Al AL GA - Did not > attended school > Ella - Daughter - W F Feb 1891 - Age 9 - Single - Al AL GA > Francis - Daughter - W F Apr 1893 - Age 7 - Single - Al AL GA > Mary - Daughter - W F Dec 1895 - Age 4 - Single - Al AL GA > Alma - Daughter - W F July 1898 - Age 1 - Single - Al AL GA > Mary - Mother - w F July 1832 - Age 67 - Widowed - 10 kids/8 living - SC > SC SC - Unable to read and write > > So, this still doesn't solve the problem of who the parents of Joseph B. > COKER are. The IGI shows that a Joseph COKER married Luisa McCAREY 08 FEB > 1856 in Bibb Co., AL. Information on the internet suggests that this > Joseph is the Joseph in the 1850 census that I posted earlier. In 1860, > they are living in West Side Cahaba River, Bibb Co., AL. In 1870, Joseph > is gone and Louisa is living with her children Nancy J., Mandy, Mary and > America in Township 11 Range 9, Winston Co., AL. > If I come across any more information, I will post it and would be curious > if anyone else can provide more. > > Ruth Roberts Coker > Arlington, TX > > Dwight Stipes wrote: > >>Who is this?? what Coker line is he related to? >>CENSUS: 1870; Census Place: Columbiana PO, Beat 8, Shelby, Alabama; >>Roll: M593_39; Page: 469; Image: 382. >> >>Joseph Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1840 Alabama White Male >>Mary Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1834 South Carolina White Female >>Samuel Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1854 Alabama White Male >>Franklin Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1856 Alabama White Male >>William Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1857 Alabama White Male >>Rachel Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1863 Alabama White Female >>Lenard Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1866 Alabama White Male >>Nora Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1868 Alabama White Male >>Joseph Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1868 Alabama White Male >> >>==== COKER Mailing List ==== >>Coker Forum http://members.tripod.com/Coker_Forum/ >> >>============================== >>Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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Yes. It looks to be suspect as all three of the children were born before the parents were married. Dwight Stipes wrote: > I have Joseph B Coker as Descendants of Joseph B. Coker > 1. JOSEPH B.1 COKER was born Bet. 1835 - 1837 in ALABAMA, and died > Bet. 1863 - 1921. He married MARY ELIZABETH HOLCOMBE October 10, 1861 > in Shelby Co., Alabama. She was born 1826 in ALABAMA, and died Bet. > 1863 - 1921. Children of JOSEPH COKER and MARY HOLCOMBE are: > i. BENJAMIN JACKSON2 COKER, b. June 12, 1857; d. WFT Est. 1858-1947. > ii. JAMES HARRISON COKER, b. 1858, Alabama; d. WFT Est. 1859-1948. > iii. HUNTER H. COKER, b. February 29, 1860; d. WFT Est. 1861-1950. > >> From WFT, and we all know that most of this info is unproofed -not > > substantiated donated by family members. > > Dwight

I an registered DNA/ see http://www.familytreedna.com/contact.html If Bob would get tested he could be a good subject for his family line. If we were all matched we would know for sure with some scientific support. It's easy to do. Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth Gay" <bethg@integrity.com> To: <COKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:13 AM Subject: [Coker] Believed to be descendants of John Coker of Brunswick County, Virginia >I know that there are many people on our mailing list who have expended >much > time, effort, and money in an attempt to solve the Coker puzzle. There is > a > lack of family letters and Bible records for our Coker family that other > families have. I am not an organized person but have a lot of data on > various segments of this family not yet entered into any program. Is there > a > certified professional genealogist researching this family that could > perhaps coordinate research projects and data done by the various family > researchers? We need one central website or database devoted to our > family. > I don't have the time or expertise to do this but would gladly contribute > copies of documents that I have obtained from various courthouses in > Alabama, Georgia and Mississippi. > There is also the added ingredient of the new field on DNA research. > Perhaps > someone could initiate a DNA project for the Coker family. We possibly > could > establish if there is a connection between Caleb Coker and John Coker. > > Kindest regards, > Beth G. > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Subscription management instructions are posted at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Beth Gay wrote: >There is also the added ingredient of the new field on DNA research. Perhaps >someone could initiate a DNA project for the Coker family. We possibly could >establish if there is a connection between Caleb Coker and John Coker. > >Kindest regards, >Beth G. > > There is a Coker DNA project listed on the Family Tree DNA site. I was thinking of having my dad take the test. I'm at a wall with the paper trail. Laura Coker-Garcia

I've done some further research on this family. I've come to some conclusions but more research is needed to accept it as true. The IGI shows a marriage record between Joseph B. COKER and Mary HOLCOMB on 10 OCT 1861 in Shelby Co., AL. I have transcribed the 1870 Census as follows. It contains some additional information not shown in Dwight's posting: 1870 U.S. Census - Alabama - Shelby Co. - Beat 8 Twp. - Columbiana P.O. Roll: M593-39 - Page 469 - Image 21 of 26 (ancestry.com) - 13 JUN 1870 132/132 COKER, Joseph - 30 M W - Farmer - [blank]/$350 - AL - Unable to read and write Mary - 36 F W - Keeping House - SC - Unable to read and write Samuel - 16 M W - Works on farm - AL - Attended School Frnklin - 14 M W - Works on Farm - AL - Unable to read and write (NOTE: It does not show that he attended school) William - 13 M W - Works on Farm - Al - Attended School Rachel - 7 F W - AL - Attended School Lenard (sic) - 4 M W - AL Nora (sic) - 2 M (sic) W - AL Joseph - 2 months M W - AL McCLANAHAN, Leticia (?) - 62 F W - At Home - $40/[blank] - SC Unable to read and write Using the information on Leticia McCLANAHAN from the 1870 census and the marriage record of Joseph B. COKER and Mary HOLCOMB, I found the following in the 1860 census: 1860 U.S. Census - Alabama - Shelby Co. - Twp. Not Stated - Columbiana P.O. Roll: M653-23 - Page 318 - Image 80 of 225 (ancestry.com) - 10 MAY 1860 527/527 McCLANAHAN, L. - 52 F - Farmer - $80/$300 - SC - Unable to read and write HOLCOMBE, Polly - 25 F - House Keeper - SC - Unable to read and write Samuel - 7 M - AL Frank - 5 M - AL Wm. Edward - 3 M - AL L. McCLANAHAN is probably the Leticia(?) McCLANAHAN in the 1870 census and 'Polly' (Polly HOLCOMBE) was a common nickname for 'Mary'. So, what it looks like is that Samuel, Franklin and William COKER in the 1870 census are actually Samuel, Franklin and William HOLCOMBE and are the children of Mary 'Polly' (McClanahan) HOLCOMBE and her first husband. I'm assuming that Mary was a widow with 3 children when she married Joseph B. COKER. Leach Cemetery in Shelby Co., AL shows the following and bears this assumption out: HOLCOMBE, Frank 20 Feb 1856 04 Nov 1914 HOLCOMBE, Martishie 09 May 1860 21 Mar 1946 Wife of Frank HOLCOMBE I found the family in the 1880 census as follows: 1880 U.S. Census - Alabama - Shelby Co. - Calera Twp. - ED #123 Roll: T9-31 - Page 224B - Image 10 of 16 (ancestry.com) - 22 JUN 1880 485/512 COKER, Joseph - W M 42 - Married - Farmer - AL AL AL - Unable to read and write Mary - W F 44 - Wife - Married - Keeping House - SC SC SC - Unable to read and write Rachel - W F 17 - Daughter - Single - At Home - Unable to read and write - AL SC(sic) SC Leonard - W M 13 - Son - Single - At Home - Works of Farm - Unable to read and write - AL AL SC Noah - W M 11 - Son - Single - Works of Farm - Unable to read and write - AL AL SC Benjamin - W M 8 - Son - Single - AL AL SC Lecia (?) - W F 6 - Daughter - Single - AL AL SC Mary - W F 4 - Daughter - Single - TN AL SC In 1900, Joseph has died and Mary is living with her son Leonard as follows. This agrees with the cemetery records that I posted earlier. 1900 U.S. Census - Alabama - Shelby Co. - Columbiana Twp. - ED #120 Roll: T623-39 - Page 18B - Image 35 of 38 (ancestry.com) - 20 JUN 1900 338/353 COAKER (sic), Leonard - Head - W M Feb 1867 - Age 33 - Married/13 yrs - AL AL AL - Farmer - Unable to read and write Sallie - Wife - W F June 1861 - Age 38 - Married/13 yrs - 6 kids/6 living - GA GA GA - Unable to read and write Clifton - Son - W M July 1887 - Age 12 - Single - Al AL GA - Did not attend school - Can read but unable to write Walter - Son - W M May 1889 - Age 11 - Single - Al AL GA - Did not attended school Ella - Daughter - W F Feb 1891 - Age 9 - Single - Al AL GA Francis - Daughter - W F Apr 1893 - Age 7 - Single - Al AL GA Mary - Daughter - W F Dec 1895 - Age 4 - Single - Al AL GA Alma - Daughter - W F July 1898 - Age 1 - Single - Al AL GA Mary - Mother - w F July 1832 - Age 67 - Widowed - 10 kids/8 living - SC SC SC - Unable to read and write So, this still doesn't solve the problem of who the parents of Joseph B. COKER are. The IGI shows that a Joseph COKER married Luisa McCAREY 08 FEB 1856 in Bibb Co., AL. Information on the internet suggests that this Joseph is the Joseph in the 1850 census that I posted earlier. In 1860, they are living in West Side Cahaba River, Bibb Co., AL. In 1870, Joseph is gone and Louisa is living with her children Nancy J., Mandy, Mary and America in Township 11 Range 9, Winston Co., AL. If I come across any more information, I will post it and would be curious if anyone else can provide more. Ruth Roberts Coker Arlington, TX Dwight Stipes wrote: >Who is this?? what Coker line is he related to? >CENSUS: 1870; Census Place: Columbiana PO, Beat 8, Shelby, Alabama; > >Roll: M593_39; Page: 469; Image: 382. > >Joseph Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1840 Alabama White Male > >Mary Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1834 South Carolina White Female > >Samuel Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1854 Alabama White Male > >Franklin Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1856 Alabama White Male > >William Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1857 Alabama White Male > >Rachel Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1863 Alabama White Female > >Lenard Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1866 Alabama White Male > >Nora Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1868 Alabama White Male > >Joseph Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1868 Alabama White Male > > >==== COKER Mailing List ==== >Coker Forum http://members.tripod.com/Coker_Forum/ > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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OOPS! I should have said '1870 census' instead of '1860 census'. Sorry about that. racoker@earthlink.net wrote: > These COKER's look to be those found in the 1860 census even though > some of the dates are off. They are not related to my COKERS that I > know of. I believe the 'Nora' COKER in the 1860 census is probably > the 'Noah' listed below. > Shelby County Alabama - Leach Cemetery > http://www.rootsweb.com/~alshelby/cemLeach.html > > COKER, Edna E. 20 Aug 1907 09 May 1997 > COKER, Joseph B. 06 May 1835 11 Jan 1899 > COKER, Leonard F. 17 Feb 1866 23 Jan 1928 > COKER, Lula 14 Aug 1870 22 Oct 1958 Wife of > Noah COKER; Mother. > COKER, Mary 14 Dec 1830 15 Jan 1906 Wife of J. > B. COKER. > COKER, Mary Rebecca 03 Jul 1899 02 Jan 1964 > COKER, Noah 29 Jan 1868 19 Jan 1935 Father. > COKER, Ruby Anna 20 Sep 1896 18 Nov 1977 > COKER, Sarah E. 29 Jun 1862 25 Feb 1960 Wife of > Leonard > > > Dwight Stipes wrote: > >> Who is this?? what Coker line is he related to? >> CENSUS: 1870; Census Place: Columbiana PO, Beat 8, Shelby, Alabama; >> Roll: M593_39; Page: 469; Image: 382. >> >> Joseph Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1840 Alabama White Male >> Mary Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1834 South Carolina White Female >> Samuel Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1854 Alabama White Male >> Franklin Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1856 Alabama White Male >> William Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1857 Alabama White Male >> Rachel Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1863 Alabama White Female >> Lenard Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1866 Alabama White Male >> Nora Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1868 Alabama White Male >> Joseph Coker Beat 8, Shelby, AL abt 1868 Alabama White Male >> >> ==== COKER Mailing List ==== >> Coker Forum http://members.tripod.com/Coker_Forum/ > >

I know that there are many people on our mailing list who have expended much time, effort, and money in an attempt to solve the Coker puzzle. There is a lack of family letters and Bible records for our Coker family that other families have. I am not an organized person but have a lot of data on various segments of this family not yet entered into any program. Is there a certified professional genealogist researching this family that could perhaps coordinate research projects and data done by the various family researchers? We need one central website or database devoted to our family. I don't have the time or expertise to do this but would gladly contribute copies of documents that I have obtained from various courthouses in Alabama, Georgia and Mississippi. There is also the added ingredient of the new field on DNA research. Perhaps someone could initiate a DNA project for the Coker family. We possibly could establish if there is a connection between Caleb Coker and John Coker. Kindest regards, Beth G.

At 09:38 PM 2/15/2006, you wrote: >My mistake, you are correct that the father of Franklin was James Coker. The >1850 census states that Franklin was studying medicine and born in >Tennessee. I can send you a report on Robert and his family or a gedcom as >an attachment if you are interested. Beth, I cannot claim Robert Coker as being directly in my line. As I remember, he is probably a generation or two back from them. I appreciate the offer, but don't really need the detail on him - at least for now. No use creating extra work for you or Dwight. I failed to answer your question about Joseph Coker staying in Bexar Co. The answer is yes, he and his descendants pretty much hung around here for many years. I am historian and secty for the Coker Cemetery here. Two Cokers attend our quarterly Trustee meetings. Our cemetery is well kept. We have about 220 descendants who are on our mailing list. We send out a newsletter twice a year and have an annual meeting with covered dinner. We have about 50 who attend this annual meeting. Let me know if I can help.

My mistake, you are correct that the father of Franklin was James Coker. The 1850 census states that Franklin was studying medicine and born in Tennessee. I can send you a report on Robert and his family or a gedcom as an attachment if you are interested. I have not worked on the Coker family in several months so my memory of the family is not current. We share a common interest in that my ancestor, William Coker was born in Laurens County, South Carolina. Dwight, I believe that I sent you a report on Robert Coker etc. Do you still have the report to forward to Bob? Otherwise I will have to recreate. Thanks. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Battaglia" <bobbatt@satx.rr.com> > At 08:28 PM 2/15/2006, Beth wrote: > >Hi Bob, > >Thanks for the clarification. Did the son Joseph remain in Bexar County, > >Tx.? Have you made any connection to the Coker family in neighboring > >Comanche Co., Texas? They descended from a Robert Coker and Elizabeth who > >were in Georgia. Elizabeth, said to be a widow, moved with some of her sons > >to Comanche Co., Texas. The Joseph Coker in the 1850 census in Cherokee > >County had a son Franklin born in Tennessee studying medicine. Do you know > >his birthplace in Tennessee? > > James had a son named Franklin, Joseph didn't. I don't have any firm > data on Franklin other than birth 1831 and marriage in Cherokee Co TX > to Susan Trimble Oct 18, 1855. I don't have a death date or location > or children. But then I didn't research that group as diligently as > I did Joseph's family. > > James had a son named Andrew Jackson Coker who was a doctor. He > was a doctor in the Civil War. Andrew also had 4 wives. Surnames > were McCaller, McCracken, Ragsdale and Gray - between 1855 - 1883. > > As far as Commance Co TX, I have not researched those Cokers. Do you > have their names? The Coker name was pretty well spread around, so > they probably are not related.