Gary, Use only the films of actual archive records. They did and do not proof the data. use that info for leads. There has been a lot of false data sent out in the past. This is not just a little problem it is a major problem at LDS. The date is sent in by individuals with little to no facts. Anyway, i have two Claiborne & Dennis in IL about the same time. That is not a surprise. You also told me about the two. I am surprised about the John as a parent for the two. If this is a factoid or archive data we should look closer. We should look at it close any way but don't get to excited yet. We may be dealing with another Coker line and different time line. Let me know what you find as to fact an this New line for Claiborn & Dennis. TTYL, Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > dwight > i found something odd the geneology thru latter day saints show claiborne and dennis parents as john cocker and margaret hadfield when you look at tree it doesnt even show a joseph coker or abraham it goes straight to the two name the film # 537220 page #28 makes me wonder now if their were not two different claibornes and two different dennis cokers in illinois now meaning the claiborne and claybourne > thing is how trusting is the latter day saint sight at being true to form? > > gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dwight Stipes > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:24 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > Yes, there are a lot of records that are miss used. There are a lot of Facts > & Genealogies of Families that have been fabricated. Every thing has to be > checked. We did several lines back in 1995 some of these were full of data > an sources on the Coker site. > > There is a repeat of names in the coker lines every other seem to have > duplication of names every 40-50 years the names will repeat. Some repeat > every generation. Different branches brothers. You may be having trouble > with Uncle or Father, Son or Grandfather Duplication of names. > > You are trying to connect Joseph who died (the Will 1774) names wife Milly > and sons > Isaac, Jacob, Abraham and Malachi Coker. That has been research so much and > everyone went "Brain Dead" afterwards :}:} No exact answers or results. > > Have fun, TTYL, > Dwight > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > dwight the will says 1759 not 1780 thats why i wonder but i also found on > laterday saint sight where it says father of claiborne coker and dennis > coker was john cocker and margaret hadfield in this region of england > matley mottram, cheshire, england now i dont know if that is just listing > the places where born married or what but this is first time i got anything > off of lds sight that shows name for father. i find it odd that will is > written in 1759 and names a joseph and then finding this on lds sight name > john as a father too. > > it leads we have not had before so i question whether someone has take a > will into their usage that may not be theirs line. > > > > gary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dwight Stipes > > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:12 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > HI, > > Is this the Joseph you are trying to connect to > > Joseph Coker (Son of John and Priscilla (Geddings) Coker). Married abt > 1745 > > to Mary Aldredge " of Roanoke". Will dated 1792, probated Laurens Co., > SC., > > 1772, first land granted him in South Carolina in Cravin Dist from which > he > > moved to Laurens prior to 1775. > > > > Dwight > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Beth Gay" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 11:07 AM > > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > > > > The Joseph Coker, son of John and Priscilla Coker was in Surry County, > > North > > > Carolina in 1781. See below. > > > > > > 15 November 1781 - Joseph Coker on a jury Surry County, North Carolina - > > > Henry Speer Vs Robert Speer. Reference Absher and Hayes, p.5. > > > > > > Post some more information on the Joseph Coker that you are searching > for. > > > > > > Beth Gay > > > > > > From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:03 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > > > > > > > beth gay, > > > > > > > > > > > > do you know if the jospeh in this will dies in 1774 or not because > this > > is > > > right in about the age me and a couple of other are looking for. > > > > > > > > > > > > gary coker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > > > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > > > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more > from the Web. 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Hi, Eveline I am in agreement with most that you, we should not use one source as fact and there are lots of errors in them. I rely on Census they are flawed. Most Archive data is of original source and should be fact. These are the sources that should be quoted, I agreed. Not all info available is clear and truly totally exact but mostly true. I try to quote a source of Fact as a form of information that I pass on, most of the time, if I have it. I don't put fact to Old wives tales or family stories they soon prove out to be less than half true. I spend most of my time checking family lines, sources is what I have been researching and sorting through now. I am trying to match all Cokers to Census, Cemeteries,Wills, etc. Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eveline Crocker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > Dwight and all; > I know of Mr. Boddie's books and research. I have found he has been proven mistaken. He is writing mostly about the area and people who his Boddies knew. > It is true we may have stem from one COKER, Robert but > others came in after him. > We are needing to know which son we stem from to have a true pedigree. > And, some of the older researchers made errors is why all researchers ask us to double check their source. > I send that Coker information to World Family Trees and I amy have been mistaken as to my Warren Coker's parents, but all indication points to Drury Coker of Ga who was counted on the 1820 Wilcox County Al census. > He was born in S. C. in 1755, to Drury son Drury son of Old Joseph Coker. > These old Wills and land grants and court records is what we need to prove our ancestor, even when people like Boddie publish books I refer to their sources more than what they write. > It does not hurt to discuss old items again as someone might throw a new light on it. > Yes, check the mail - list archives for information, which I myself have done before I wrote my current query. > New members may not be aware of the old discussion in the archives. > > TTYL > Evelyn Marie aka Mary Crocker > > > > Dwight Stipes wrote: > > > > HI, > > This an most of the early Cokers have been discusses over the years there > > are lots of arguments about who go where but there is really only one line. > > > > for some early research see the book, > > Info on the COKER's came from "Southside Virginia Famileis" by John Bennett > > Boddie, 929.3755 (he had 3 volumes) See this web site back to 1990 and some > > early research where records were produced and copied. This will has been > > discussed before. > > > > Hope this helps. > > Dwight > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:54 PM > > Subject: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Surnames: Coker, Campbell, Dortch, Atkinson, Spence > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/1009 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > The following is a transcribed copy of the will of above in Brunswick > > County, Virginia. > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Querie Board > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Still trying to find father of Ezekiel Coker borned 1813 in NC and bonded out in 1825 in Greene County TN to a John Dailey. If anyone has inforamtion on this line of Cokers, I would appreciate having it. Thanks. gg granddaughter Sandra

Dwight, I read an article a while back in which the writer said one of her terms is STB..."said to be." This is a great idea in my mind. The viewer then has the ability to understand that this is not necessarily fact..BUT...it may be information that needs to have some follow-up. This is particularly important for people that are researching areas greatly removed from their locality. I live in Oregon...most of my research is in South Carolina and Pennsylvania... getting my hands on primary source material is tough. I have made several trips to SC and have done quite well but were there more time and finances I would be able to dig up even more I think. Regards, Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwight Stipes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 Hi, Eveline I am in agreement with most that you, we should not use one source as fact and there are lots of errors in them. I rely on Census they are flawed. Most Archive data is of original source and should be fact. These are the sources that should be quoted, I agreed. Not all info available is clear and truly totally exact but mostly true. I try to quote a source of Fact as a form of information that I pass on, most of the time, if I have it. I don't put fact to Old wives tales or family stories they soon prove out to be less than half true. I spend most of my time checking family lines, sources is what I have been researching and sorting through now. I am trying to match all Cokers to Census, Cemeteries,Wills, etc. Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eveline Crocker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > Dwight and all; > I know of Mr. Boddie's books and research. I have found he has been proven mistaken. He is writing mostly about the area and people who his Boddies knew. > It is true we may have stem from one COKER, Robert but > others came in after him. > We are needing to know which son we stem from to have a true pedigree. > And, some of the older researchers made errors is why all researchers ask us to double check their source. > I send that Coker information to World Family Trees and I amy have been mistaken as to my Warren Coker's parents, but all indication points to Drury Coker of Ga who was counted on the 1820 Wilcox County Al census. > He was born in S. C. in 1755, to Drury son Drury son of Old Joseph Coker. > These old Wills and land grants and court records is what we need to prove our ancestor, even when people like Boddie publish books I refer to their sources more than what they write. > It does not hurt to discuss old items again as someone might throw a new light on it. > Yes, check the mail - list archives for information, which I myself have done before I wrote my current query. > New members may not be aware of the old discussion in the archives. > > TTYL > Evelyn Marie aka Mary Crocker > > > > Dwight Stipes wrote: > > > > HI, > > This an most of the early Cokers have been discusses over the years there > > are lots of arguments about who go where but there is really only one line. > > > > for some early research see the book, > > Info on the COKER's came from "Southside Virginia Famileis" by John Bennett > > Boddie, 929.3755 (he had 3 volumes) See this web site back to 1990 and some > > early research where records were produced and copied. This will has been > > discussed before. > > > > Hope this helps. > > Dwight > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:54 PM > > Subject: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Surnames: Coker, Campbell, Dortch, Atkinson, Spence > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/1009 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > The following is a transcribed copy of the will of above in Brunswick > > County, Virginia. > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Querie Board > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== Subscription management instructions are posted at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

rich, dont worry I have yet to find anything from LDS to be right yet but definately will throw what information I find into my research file mainly to explore... When I looked at the claybourne/ claiborne I looked at the age on census I believ it only one claybourne because age and place where both are from says GA. the two dennis I have one is the uncle of the other with the same GA state and age is close to claiborne. Spelling back then from what I have seen was done more sound rather then being correct. I have sent for the will of claybourned coker in jacksonville so maybe that will clear that up a bit. gary coker ----- Original Message ----- From: Dwight Stipes Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 Gary, Use only the films of actual archive records. They did and do not proof the data. use that info for leads. There has been a lot of false data sent out in the past. This is not just a little problem it is a major problem at LDS. The date is sent in by individuals with little to no facts. Anyway, i have two Claiborne & Dennis in IL about the same time. That is not a surprise. You also told me about the two. I am surprised about the John as a parent for the two. If this is a factoid or archive data we should look closer. We should look at it close any way but don't get to excited yet. We may be dealing with another Coker line and different time line. Let me know what you find as to fact an this New line for Claiborn & Dennis. TTYL, Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > dwight > i found something odd the geneology thru latter day saints show claiborne and dennis parents as john cocker and margaret hadfield when you look at tree it doesnt even show a joseph coker or abraham it goes straight to the two name the film # 537220 page #28 makes me wonder now if their were not two different claibornes and two different dennis cokers in illinois now meaning the claiborne and claybourne > thing is how trusting is the latter day saint sight at being true to form? > > gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dwight Stipes > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:24 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > Yes, there are a lot of records that are miss used. There are a lot of Facts > & Genealogies of Families that have been fabricated. Every thing has to be > checked. We did several lines back in 1995 some of these were full of data > an sources on the Coker site. > > There is a repeat of names in the coker lines every other seem to have > duplication of names every 40-50 years the names will repeat. Some repeat > every generation. Different branches brothers. You may be having trouble > with Uncle or Father, Son or Grandfather Duplication of names. > > You are trying to connect Joseph who died (the Will 1774) names wife Milly > and sons > Isaac, Jacob, Abraham and Malachi Coker. That has been research so much and > everyone went "Brain Dead" afterwards :}:} No exact answers or results. > > Have fun, TTYL, > Dwight > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > dwight the will says 1759 not 1780 thats why i wonder but i also found on > laterday saint sight where it says father of claiborne coker and dennis > coker was john cocker and margaret hadfield in this region of england > matley mottram, cheshire, england now i dont know if that is just listing > the places where born married or what but this is first time i got anything > off of lds sight that shows name for father. i find it odd that will is > written in 1759 and names a joseph and then finding this on lds sight name > john as a father too. > > it leads we have not had before so i question whether someone has take a > will into their usage that may not be theirs line. > > > > gary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dwight Stipes > > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:12 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > HI, > > Is this the Joseph you are trying to connect to > > Joseph Coker (Son of John and Priscilla (Geddings) Coker). Married abt > 1745 > > to Mary Aldredge " of Roanoke". Will dated 1792, probated Laurens Co., > SC., > > 1772, first land granted him in South Carolina in Cravin Dist from which > he > > moved to Laurens prior to 1775. > > > > Dwight > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Beth Gay" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 11:07 AM > > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > > > > The Joseph Coker, son of John and Priscilla Coker was in Surry County, > > North > > > Carolina in 1781. See below. > > > > > > 15 November 1781 - Joseph Coker on a jury Surry County, North Carolina - > > > Henry Speer Vs Robert Speer. Reference Absher and Hayes, p.5. > > > > > > Post some more information on the Joseph Coker that you are searching > for. > > > > > > Beth Gay > > > > > > From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:03 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > > > > > > > beth gay, > > > > > > > > > > > > do you know if the jospeh in this will dies in 1774 or not because > this > > is > > > right in about the age me and a couple of other are looking for. > > > > > > > > > > > > gary coker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > > > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > > > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more > from the Web. 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Part 4, the end. One of these abstracts is from Abstract of Wills, not by Bradley. Oct 1764 Edgecombe NC Deed Book C, Edgecombe Co., N. C, p. 249. Jabesh HENDRICKS of Edgcombe Co to William BRYAN of same. 22 Oct 1764. 9 pounds proclamation. 50 acres which was part of a 570 acre grant to Jabesh HENDRICKS 23 Jul 1761, on Coneto Pocoson, joining Richard SESSUMS, Margret FORD. Wit: Patrick McKAIN, James HODGE, George SHELL. James HALL CC Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 69. Jan 1765 Edgecombe NC Deed Book C, Edgecombe Co., N. C., p. 347. Eliza(x)FERGUSON of Edgcombe Co to her son Nimrod FERGUSON of same. 1 Jan 1765. Deed of gift. All my estate left to me by my husband Isaac FERGUSON dec'd, in trust; also negro man Jack. Wit; Charles DANIEL, Edward MOORE. Oct Ct 1765. Jas HALL CC Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 79. Oct 1765 Edgecombe NC Deed Book C, Edgecombe County, North Carolina, p. 427. Joseph(x)Cocor of Edgcombe Co to Elizabeth Furgson of same. 18 Oct 1765. 18 pounds proclamation. 50 acres which was part of a patent to Wm HENDRICKS 20 Apr 1745, on the north side of Swift Creek, joining Meadow Branch. Also signed by Mildred(x)COKER. Proved at Halifax Co 18 Oct 1765 before Montford Elbank AJ, where sd femme was examined Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 89. Jan 1766 Edgecombe NC Hendrick, Wm. Jan. 1, 1766. Jan. Ct., 1767. All Property Sold, money divided between 4 Chil. Son: Joshua. Son & Exr: William Daus: Sarah Beckingham, Mary Hood. Gr. Chil: Jeremiah Hendrick, William Busby, MILDRED COKER, 5 S each. Wit: William Blackburn, John Nicholson, William Pritchet. Abstracts of Wills Ed.Co.NC1733-1856Wms& Griffin Oct 1766 Edgecombe NC Deed Book C, Edgecombe County, North Carolina, page 469. Elizabeth(x)FARGUSON of Halifax Co. to William PRICHET of Edgecombe Co. 19 Oct 1766. 19 pounds 7s6p proclamation. 50 acres which was part of a patent to William HENDRICK 20 Apr 1745 & conveyed to Joseph COKER 15 Jul 1759 & sd COKER conveyed it to sd Elizabeth FARGUSON 18 Oct 1765, on the north side of Swift Creek, joining Meadow Branch, the island. Wit: Joseph KNIGHT, Nimrod FERGUSON, Jane FERGUSON. Oct Ct 1767. Jas HALL CC. Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 96. Oct 1767 Edgecombe NC Deed Book C, Edgecombe Co., N. C., p. 500. William HENDRICK(x) as excr of William HENDRICK dec'd, Joshua(x)HENDRICK, William BUKINGHAM & his wife Sarah(x), Arthur(x)HOOD & his wife Mary(x), as heirs of sd William HENDRICK dec'd, all of Edgcombe Co to William NELMS of Halifax Co. 1767. 24 pounds 11s7 1/2p. 222 acres which was part of a 600 acre patent to William HENDRICKS 20 Apr 1745 & being all the part not already conveyed by William HENDRICKS dec'd & which he in his will directed to be sold, joining on the south side of Swift Creek, William BEKINHAM. Wit: Thomas CARTER, Kindred CARTER. Oct Ct 1767. Jas HALL CC Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 99.

Part 3. Dec 1761 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 1, Edgecombe Co., N. C. , p. 39. Jabish HENDRICK of Edgecomb Co to Arthur RICHARDSON planter of same. 1 Dec 1761. 11 pounds proclamation. [torn] acres on the north side of Tar River, joining William KING, Cheeks Creek, Richard SESOMS. Wit: Thomas NEWSOM, Simon NEWSOM. Dec Ct 1761. Jas HALL DCC. Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995 )22. Mar 1762 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 1, Edgecombe Co., N. C. , p. 199. Absolom(x)BENTON of Edgecomb Co. to Moses KNIGHT of same. 15 Mar 1762. 35 pounds VA. 200 acres on the south side of Brown Swamp, joining James KNIGHT, Wolf Pitt Branch. Also signed by Elizabeth (x)BENTON. Wit: Kindred CARTER, Jethro(x)BENTON. Jams HALL CC. Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 29. May 1762 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 1, p. 272. Jacob CARTER & his wife Middleton to Robert BIGNALL, both of Edgcombe Co. 20 May 1762. 10 pounds VA. Lot 90 which Jacob CARTER purchasesd 27 Mar 1762, in Tarborough on Trade & Granville streets. Wit: Thomas SPELL, Benjn HART. Jun Ct. 1762. Jas HALL DCC. Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., abstractor, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759 - 1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464), 33. Jun 1762 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 1, Edgecombe Co. N. C., p. 501. Thomas(x)HART & his wife Patience(x) of Edgcombe Co to Henry DAWSON of Northampton Co. 25 Jun 1762. 133 pounds 6s8p proclamation. 300 acres on Tosnot Swamp, joining John LOTT. Wit: Jno. PACE, Richd PACE, Thos(x)UNDERWOOD. Jan Ct 1763. Jas HALL CC. Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 47. Sep 1762 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 1, Edgecombe Co., N. C., p. 389. James(x)FURGESON of Edgcomb Co to John POLAND of same. 24 Sep 1762. 20 pounds proclamation. 70 acres where sd POLAND now lives, on the north side of Tarr River, joining Jacobs Swamp, Poplar Branch. Wit: Edwd MOOR, John FURGUSON, Sarah(x)FERGUSON. Sep Ct 1762. Jas HALL DCC. Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 40. Jan 1763 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 1, Edgecombe Co., N. C., p. 456. William(x)HENDRICK to Edward HENDRICK, both of Edgecombe Co. 20 Jan 1763. 10 pounds proclamation. 120 acres which was part of a 556 acre Granville Grant to sd William HENDRICK 17 Sep 1744, in St Mary's Parish on both sides of Sappony, joining Old Place Branch. Wit: Thos CARTER, Arthur(x)PITTMAN. Jan Ct 1763. Jas HALL CC Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 44,45. Jul 1764 Edgecombe NC Deed Book C, Edgecombe Co., N. C., p. 246. Samuel CARTER ot Matthew CARTER, both planters of Edgcombe Co. 17 Jul 1764. 10 pounds proclamation. 257 1/2 acres which was part of a 515 acre Granville Grant to sd Samuel CARTER 12 Feb 1761, on the north side of Tar River, joining Miery Branch. Also signed by Rebekah(x)CARTER wife of sd Samuel. Wit: Wm WEST, Rachel(x)WOODARD. Jul Ct 1764. Jams HALL CC Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 68,69.

Continued transcription of deed abstracts. Note that Mildred Coker was the granddaughter of William Hendricks. Mildred Coker's maiden name is unknown. Beth Part 2. Jan 1760 Edgecombe NC George(x) ROCHEL of Edgcombe Co to his son-in-law Jesse BOYKIN. 5 Jan 1760. Deed of gift. Negro man Treeman, 2 mares, etc. Wit: Dempsey SPEIR, Robert KNIGHT, Charles PORTER, Sep Ct 1760. Jams HALL CC. Deed Book OO, p. 144. [Edgecombe North Carolina]. Bradley, Edgecombe County, 1: 9. Jan 1760 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 00, Edgecombe Co., N. C., p. 152. Thomas(x)HEART planter of Edgecombe Co to John PACE of same. 31 pounds 10s VA. Jan 1760. 190 acre as by a deed to Thomas HART 6 Nov 1756, joining on the south side of Bever Dam Swamp. Wit: Kindred CARTER, Jesse CARTER. Sep Ct 1760, Jams HALL CC Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 9. Aug 1760 Edgecombe NC Thomas(x) HART of Edgcombe Co to William CROSWILL of same. 14 Aug 1760. 70 pounds VA. 200 acres "which was granted unto me the above mentioned Hardy COUNCEL by patent" 2 Mar 1738, on the north side of Swift Creek, joining Longs Swamp. Wit: Jesse HENDRICK, Sarah(x) HENDRICK. Sep Ct 1760. Jams HALL CC. Deed Book OO, p 152. [Edgecombe North Carolina]. Bradley, Edgecombe County, 1: 9. Sep 1760 Edgecombe NC Deed Book OO, p. 129. William(x)CROSWILL of Edgcombe Co to Gilbert CROSWILL of same. 22 Sep 1760. 35 pounds VA. 100 acres "which was granted unto me the above mentioned Hardy COUNCEL by Paten" 2 Mar 1738, on the north side of Swift Creek, joining Long Swamp. Also signed by Charity(x)CROSWELL. Wit: Jesse HENDRICK, Sarah(x)HENDRICK. Sep Ct. 1760. Jams HALL CC . Bradley, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, 1: 8. Apr 1761 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 00, Edgecombe Co., N. C. , p. 259. Jesse BOYKIN of Edgcombe Co to Barnaby EXUM. 8 Apr 1761. 53 pounds proclamation. 100 acres which was a patent to William SPIER 22 Nov 1738, on the north side of Swift Creek, joining James CARTER. Wit: Ethd EXUM, Jethro MIALL. Jun Ct 1761. Jas HALL CC. Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 15. Sep 1761 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 1, Edgecombe Co., N. C., p. 201. Kindred CARTER of Edgecomb Co to James KNIGHT of same. 10 Sep 1761. 10 pounds proclamation. 300 acres from the deed to sd Kindred CARTER, joining the north side of Swift Creek, Kindred CARTER, Jesy BOYKIN. Wit: Moses KNIGHT, John KNIGHT, Benjn FORMAN. Mar Ct 1762. Jams HALL DCC Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 29. Sep 1761 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 00, Edgecombe Co. N. C., p. 321. James MOIR, Elisha BATTLE, Benjn HART, Alexander McCULLOCH & Blake BAKER, as trustees & commissioners of Tarborough, to Jacob CARTER of Halifax Co. 40s proclamation. Lots 9 & 90 on St Johns & Trade streets. Also signed by Aquila SUGG. Wit: Thomas LENOIR, Joseph COTTON. Sep Ct 1761. James HALL CC. Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 18.

The following is a transcription by me from abstracted deeds by Dr. Stephen Bradley in Edgecombe County, North Carolina. This may assist you in your research regarding Joseph and Milly Coker. This is Part I. I will send the remaining entries later. Beth Aug 1758 Edgecombe NC Deed Book OO (1759 - 1761) p.3 William HENDRICK of Edgecomb Co to Arter HOOD of same. 25 Aug 1758 10 pounds VA. 100 acres which was part of a patent to William HENDRICK 20 Apr 1745,, on the north side of Swift Creek on Long Swamp near Jacob CARTER, joining Little Branch , Medow Branch. Wit: Jesse HENDRICK, Joseph COKER. Mar Ct. 1759. Jos MONTFORT CC. [Edgecombe NC]. See entry of May 1762, possible wife of Jacob CARTER named. See entry of Sep 1760, Edgecombe regarding Jesse HENDRICK. Bradley, Jr., Dr. Stephen E., Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr. Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995), 1. Dec 1758 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 00, Edgecombe County, North Carolina, p. 19. Thomas(x)HART of Edgcombe Co. to James NELSON of same. 16 Dec 1758. 30 pounds VA. 150 acres which was a Granville Grant to sd HART 16 Dec 1758, on the north side of Swift Creek, joining NELSON, Poplar Branch. Wit: William DORTCH, Benja SELLERS, Benja SELLERS Jr., Oswell LANGLY. Jun Ct. 1759. Jos MONTFORT CC. Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 2. Dec 1758 Edgecombe NC George(x) ROCHEL of Edgcombe Co to Jesse BOYKIN of same. 21 Dec 1758. 15 pounds VA. 100 acres which was part of a 200 acre patent to William SPEIR 22 Nov 1738 joining sd. SPEIR, ROCHEL, Swift Creek; on the north side of Swift Creek. Wit: Jams HALL. Jun Ct. 1760. Jams Hall CC. Deed Book OO, p. 119. [ Edgecombe North Carolina]. Bradley, Edgecombe Counrty North Carolina Deeds, 1: 7. May 1759 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 00, Edgecombe County, North Carolina, p. 51. Jacob CARTER to Thomas HART. 2 May 1759. 65 pounds VA. 200 acres which was a patent to Hardy COUNCIL 2 Mar 1735, on the north side of Swift Creek, joining Thomas BRYANT, William HENRY, Long Swamp. Wit: Jos. MONTFORT, John POPE, Kindred CARTER. Jos MONTFORT CC. Dr. Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., compiler, Edgecombe County, North Carolina Deeds, Volume 1: 1759-1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 4. Jul 1759 Edgecombe NC Deed Book 00, Edgecombe Co., N. C. , p. 206. William HENDRICK of Edgcombe Co to Joseph COCKER of same. 5 Jul 1759. 5 pounds VA. 50 acres which was part of a patent to William HENDRICK 20 Apr 1745, on the north side of Swift Creek, joining Meadow Branch, Arthur HOOD. Wit: Thomas(x)HART, Jesse HENDRICK, Kindred CARTER. Mar Ct. 1761. James HALL CC. 1768 (Stephen E. Bradley, Jr., Virginia Beach, Virginia 23464, 1995) 12. Sep 1759 Edgecombe NC James SPEIR of Edgcombe Co to his son-in-law Robert KNIGHT & his wife my daughter Trecia KNIGHT of same. 22 Sep 1759. Deed of Gift. Negro girl Jude age 14. Wit: William SPEIR, James KNIGHT, Obadiah(x) HOWERTON. Sep Ct. 1759. Jos Montfort CC. Deed Book OO, p. 48. [Edgecombe North Carolina]. Bradley, Edgecombe County North Carolina Deeds, 1: 4.

Thank you, Gary, But, Please, I do not desire to get into that discussion, but since you asked. I am both CROCKER and COKER,. COKER FROM MY MOTHER'S MOTHER. Some claim Crockers are Scottish but the first thing I do is research the meaning of each of my ancestors surnames. The Coker means red Clay named after the Castle Coker in Somerset England in the 10th century which belonged to the Earl of MANDERVILLE family, who in fact was NORMAN and fought with William the Conquer in the BATTLE OF ABBY. One ROBERT de MANDERVILLE changed his name to ROBERT de COKER about 1275. source:" A Dictionary of English and Walsh Surnames" ; "SURNAMES ARE THE FOSSILS OF SPEECH" and A good history of WEST COKER IN SOMERSET ENGLAND may be found at <http;//west.coker.net/history2.htm>. Steve Coker also has done research on the COKER name and placed it on the COKER-L Sat. Mar. 1998. You will find it on the Coker-L archives on Rootsweb.com. Also, a Dr. Robert E. Coker of S. C. complied a Booklet entitled "COKER" OUR NAME THE PLACE" in March 1950. I think Dr. Coker is deceased now. but I have copy of the booklet. Also, another source is COKER GENEALOGICAL and HISTORICAL SKETCH by ROOTS RESEARCH BUREAU, LTD. MANUSCRIPT # 562. The CROCKER surname is similar. The book, "The Norman People and Their Existing Descendants in British Dominions and the United States" states northmen of Danish Connexion with ANGLO-SAXON which made up England - Saxon _ Dane & Norman; 879 AD -- Danish Dominion of Saxon England. Crocker (Eng.) Croaker (Norman) or de Crocherce from crocea, a cross (Ducange) crocearius, a cross - bearer, Simon de Crocherce and William Crockare mentioned in England --- 1272 A D (Rot. Hundren) Norman families may be included. John de Crochere Held lands from de Pomery, Devon, at time of Henry the I. From "HISTORICAL SOUTHERN FAMILIES" volumne II, John Bennett Boddie 1958. CROCKER of the Isle of Wight, "A Mrs. Myrtle P. Handley of Birmingham, Al. who most probable is an CROCKER Descendant of MARY EULA, daughter of WILLIAM EUGENE , son of WILSON, SON OF DRUE (DRURY) , son of ANTHONY, SON of WILLIAM, son of ANTHONY, ancsentor in the Isle of Wight Va.. DRURY CROCKER MOVED his family to DALLAS co. AL. about 1780. According to Ms. Handley; "the name, "CROCKER" is SCOTTISH. A CROCKER or CROKER was a maker of crocks, orginally large barrel shaped jars. The name, CROCKER, is similar in meaning to that of a potter, It is an ancient family in England (see WESTCOTT'S DEVONSHIRE by G. OLIVER and P. JONES p. p. 550. Also, THE HARLEIAN SOCIETY, vols VI - 78, LX - 57". We can see in the first paragraph, there is a difference of opinion, pertaining to the origin as well as the spelling of the name of de CROCHERCE aka CROCKER. We may assume that "The Norman People and Their Existing Descendants in British Dominions and the United States" is more recent information on the family of CROCKER name than that was available to Mrs. HANDLEY or BODDIE in the 1950s. CROCKER COAT OF ARMS; According to BURK'S ENCYCLOPEDIA OF HERALDY, the CROCKER arms was "Argent: a Chevron engrailed between three raven, Sable". This is now combined with another families arms since the last one to inherit it was a daughter and her husband's arms was combined with hers. It may be found at <http://geocities.com/texannusa36/thehouseofcrocker.html> As I mentioned above, Steve Coker wrote an interesting item about the Coker name which included facts about the COKER ARMS of Three Leopards. Sorry, this is so very long, but, it has good history and genealogy concerning my CROCKER and COKER surnames that you may use. Thank you, kindly. Evelyne aka TexAnn Crocker <http:geocities.com/texannusa36/thehouseofcrocker.html> Gary Coker wrote: > > eveline, > > just curious about last name being crocker is that irish english or scottish reason i ask is because on english sights they say they mean different regions as well meaning the spelling of coker. > > gary e coker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eveline Crocker > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759

Gary, This just goes to prove why LDS site advises you to double check the information contributed to their sight. And, again, proves why I am double checking what I myself have posted or found on my Line or what others send me. Check the sources, at least briefly. later EM Crocker Gary Coker wrote: > > dwight the will says 1759 not 1780 thats why i wonder but i also found on laterday saint sight where it says father of claiborne coker and dennis coker was john cocker and margaret hadfield in this region of england matley mottram, cheshire, england now i dont know if that is just listing the places where born married or what but this is first time i got anything off of lds sight that shows name for father. i find it odd that will is written in 1759 and names a joseph and then finding this on lds sight name john as a father too. > it leads we have not had before so i question whether someone has take a will into their usage that may not be theirs line. > > gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dwight Stipes > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > HI, > Is this the Joseph you are trying to connect to > Joseph Coker (Son of John and Priscilla (Geddings) Coker). >snipped>

Dwight and all; I know of Mr. Boddie's books and research. I have found he has been proven mistaken. He is writing mostly about the area and people who his Boddies knew. It is true we may have stem from one COKER, Robert but others came in after him. We are needing to know which son we stem from to have a true pedigree. And, some of the older researchers made errors is why all researchers ask us to double check their source. I send that Coker information to World Family Trees and I amy have been mistaken as to my Warren Coker's parents, but all indication points to Drury Coker of Ga who was counted on the 1820 Wilcox County Al census. He was born in S. C. in 1755, to Drury son Drury son of Old Joseph Coker. These old Wills and land grants and court records is what we need to prove our ancestor, even when people like Boddie publish books I refer to their sources more than what they write. It does not hurt to discuss old items again as someone might throw a new light on it. Yes, check the mail - list archives for information, which I myself have done before I wrote my current query. New members may not be aware of the old discussion in the archives. TTYL Evelyn Marie aka Mary Crocker Dwight Stipes wrote: > > HI, > This an most of the early Cokers have been discusses over the years there > are lots of arguments about who go where but there is really only one line. > > for some early research see the book, > Info on the COKER's came from "Southside Virginia Famileis" by John Bennett > Boddie, 929.3755 (he had 3 volumes) See this web site back to 1990 and some > early research where records were produced and copied. This will has been > discussed before. > > Hope this helps. > Dwight > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:54 PM > Subject: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: Coker, Campbell, Dortch, Atkinson, Spence > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/1009 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > The following is a transcribed copy of the will of above in Brunswick > County, Virginia. > >

This is what I was told about my family. ----Clayborne or bourn (My great,great grandfather) was born 3/14/1802 in Washing County, Georgia. His father was William, know nothing of his mother. Married Elizabeth Hale or Hail Born 8/20/1804 in North Carolina. Her parents were Levi Hale and Catherine Tucker or Tycker. They were married 8/22/1821 in Spencer County, Ill. Clayborne died 9/12/1880 and Elizabeth died 4/9/1889. Both buried in Scott Cemetery in MOrgan County. ill ---There Children--- 1. Thomas Coker --born 2/21/1821 in MOrgan county, Ill His wife name was Elizabeth. They had moved to S California around 1876 from Schyler County, Ill. 2. Mary Jane Coker -- Born 7/14/1822. She Died 11/30/1911. Married to Robert Thompson 3. Edward Fayette Coker --born 2/6/1825 and died 10/12/1873. Born in Ill. no town,marriage or burial on him. 4. Bernette Coker --Born 4/10/1827. Married to August W Kennedy. 11/5/1844 in Morgan County, ILL. no record of death or burial 5. Dennis Coker -Born 4/9/1829 in Ill. Married Sara Clanton 7/17/1848. Died 2/22/1906/ Lived in California at one time. 6. Sylvester Coker -Born 6/5/1824 in MOrgan County., Ill. Wife was Ledelia Peak He died 7/9/1919 buried in White Hall Cemetery. 7. Catherine Coker -Born 10/30/1836 in MOrgan co., ILL Married to Sam Wycoff. She died around 1856 8. Richard Preston Coker -Born 5/4/1839 in MOrgan County, ILL. First Wife Mary A Stevens 2nd wife was Eva Taylor He died 2/28/1928 buried at Scott Cemetery in Morgan County. 9. James Wesley Coker (My great grandfather) born 3/15/1842, married a Mary Elvira Robertson He was born and married in Morgan county, ILL He died 1931 and she died 1925, both buried republic Mo Cemetery. 10. Maria Emelina Coker --born 8/24/1845 Morgan County, ILL married to a Barton She died 6/11/1880 no record of burial. Hope this helps Phyllis

Thank, Dwight, That does help by naming the source of the Seborn Coker and Amanda J. Tucker union. Now, if he was age 23, then he must have be born in 1823, it should tell which state his parents' were born. Since he was born in Ar , he isn't my W. Warren or Gallant C. COKER's brother , Sebe, I believe he was also born in Al as they were. Thank, evelyne Dwight Stipes wrote: > > HI, See if this helps. > Crawford County, AR 1850 Federal Census > Census_Year 1850 Microfilm # M432-25 State AR County Crawford > DIVISION: Sugar Loaf Township REEL NO: M432-25 PAGE NO: 274B > 40 83 84 Coker Seborn 23 M Farmer Ark X > 41 83 84 Coker Amanda J 18 F Ten X > 42 83 84 Coker Samantha J 2 F Ark > > TTYL: > Dwight > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eveline Crocker" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 1:12 PM > Subject: [Coker] Re: [Fwd: Fwd: Sebe Coker and Amanda Predella TUCKER] > > > Becky and list; > > Thank you for your suggestion.

eveline, lol believe me I do check sources have already fixed 75 years of linage that is messed up by gene pro lol. but at at same cross roads as most one way of linage for me says abraham is claiborned and dennis cokers dad the other source says a john cocker from cheshire england is father. makes me wonder lol. If there is records that could prove that would be fine but my decendant dennis coker not the one i just said that is his uncle lol shows that his parents were from geogia in kansas census before he was in illinoise. so makes me wonder how lds sight has him straight to 1723 england. but maybe the gap between 1774 to 1723 is actually setting in england history. gary coker ----- Original Message ----- From: Eveline Crocker Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 Gary, This just goes to prove why LDS site advises you to double check the information contributed to their sight. And, again, proves why I am double checking what I myself have posted or found on my Line or what others send me. Check the sources, at least briefly. later EM Crocker Gary Coker wrote: > > dwight the will says 1759 not 1780 thats why i wonder but i also found on laterday saint sight where it says father of claiborne coker and dennis coker was john cocker and margaret hadfield in this region of england matley mottram, cheshire, england now i dont know if that is just listing the places where born married or what but this is first time i got anything off of lds sight that shows name for father. i find it odd that will is written in 1759 and names a joseph and then finding this on lds sight name john as a father too. > it leads we have not had before so i question whether someone has take a will into their usage that may not be theirs line. > > gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dwight Stipes > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > HI, > Is this the Joseph you are trying to connect to > Joseph Coker (Son of John and Priscilla (Geddings) Coker). >snipped> ==== COKER Mailing List ==== Coker Querie Board http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

eveline, just curious about last name being crocker is that irish english or scottish reason i ask is because on english sights they say they mean different regions as well meaning the spelling of coker. gary e coker ----- Original Message ----- From: Eveline Crocker Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 Dwight and all; I know of Mr. Boddie's books and research. I have found he has been proven mistaken. He is writing mostly about the area and people who his Boddies knew. It is true we may have stem from one COKER, Robert but others came in after him. We are needing to know which son we stem from to have a true pedigree. And, some of the older researchers made errors is why all researchers ask us to double check their source. I send that Coker information to World Family Trees and I amy have been mistaken as to my Warren Coker's parents, but all indication points to Drury Coker of Ga who was counted on the 1820 Wilcox County Al census. He was born in S. C. in 1755, to Drury son Drury son of Old Joseph Coker. These old Wills and land grants and court records is what we need to prove our ancestor, even when people like Boddie publish books I refer to their sources more than what they write. It does not hurt to discuss old items again as someone might throw a new light on it. Yes, check the mail - list archives for information, which I myself have done before I wrote my current query. New members may not be aware of the old discussion in the archives. TTYL Evelyn Marie aka Mary Crocker Dwight Stipes wrote: > > HI, > This an most of the early Cokers have been discusses over the years there > are lots of arguments about who go where but there is really only one line. > > for some early research see the book, > Info on the COKER's came from "Southside Virginia Famileis" by John Bennett > Boddie, 929.3755 (he had 3 volumes) See this web site back to 1990 and some > early research where records were produced and copied. This will has been > discussed before. > > Hope this helps. > Dwight > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:54 PM > Subject: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: Coker, Campbell, Dortch, Atkinson, Spence > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/1009 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > The following is a transcribed copy of the will of above in Brunswick > County, Virginia. > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== Coker Querie Board http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

HI, here is more, NORTH McALESTER CEMETERY, McAlester, OK, Pittsburg County The list is in order as you walk in from the West gate NORTH McALESTER CEMETERY, McAlester, Pittsburg County, OK, COKER, Amanda Born February 2, 1832 Died February 2, 1912 D/O Robert Tucker and Elizabeth "Betsy" Glenn; W/O Seaborn S. Coker; M/O Nancy A. Coker, Catherine Coker, Mary Coker, James C. Coker, John C. Coker, and Edwin C. Coker Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eveline Crocker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 1:12 PM Subject: [Coker] Re: [Fwd: Fwd: Sebe Coker and Amanda Predella TUCKER] > Becky and list; > Thank you for your suggestion. > I feel that since there are so many given and surnames mis - spelled that the C. B. , Seaborn was given the nick of Sebe, but, it is strange that it was used in legal papers and since I found Seaborn B. on the Ms. Army of the Confederacy roster , I believe he is my > WARREN COKER's brother, until proved otherwise. > I see there were three Seaborns about the same age, Seaborn B. COKER , Ms.; SEABORN S. COKER and SEABORN C. COKER OF AL AND ARK.. > SEABORN and Gallant C. COKER were both living across the Al line in Ms. They both were said to be born in the area about the time Al. was taken out of Ms. Territory and became a state. They didn't move , the States and counties boundaries did. > > These are the brothers and sisters my Great Great grandmother NANCY WILLBANKS Coker knew in Al before coming to Tx.., Sebe, Greene, Gallant, Getty , Diadem and Mrs. Wheelis (Dicey Coker). Warren COKER died in 1892, she died in 1912, the author of the book had her death in > 1902 but my mom had records of her death as 1912. She lived with her daughter, Nancy Elizabeth, aka Lizzie Coker (Mrs. Jackson Gage) Crawford according to the 1900 Tx. soundex. > > I have not proven G. B. aka Greene B was our Green Coker yet so would like input on this. > > I do hope people on the list will assist me as I have given so much of mine information on that C. D.. and personal contact. I have read every post to the list that is in the archives of the list and forum. > > Plus, I am backing up and researching my previous information again. > > I found that Seaborn (Sebe) Coker hasn't been proven as the husband of Amanda Tucker on several posts to the list. What is the proof here? Just a similar name of a descendant or is there a bible or marriage record or a military record or census naming her as his wife ??? > > In that case, then Dicey Dial was one of the wives of Old John Coker S. C. since my WARREN COKER had a sister called DICEY aka La DICIA WHICH IS FRENCH or SPANISH. Her mother was born in La or Louisana Territory. > My grandmother, Preal Coker Tarr once mentioned her mother was bn in New Orleans now I believe it was her greatgrandmother, Warren Coker's mother. > > If anyone on the list has a copy of Seaborn B. Coker's Ms. Army of the confederacy military records I would appreciate a copy. It should tell where he was born. > Gallant's and Warren's did. > > There was an legend that WARREN Coker's family was part Cherokee from the eastern Tribe and his Father was in the 1833 Trail of Tears out of AL so I began my genealogy research years ago to prove this but all the reports came back negative. I even paid a Cherokee > researcher , Mrs Mooney in Oklahoma to do a search. > > I was so sure because when we live in Blount co Tn in 1972, my parents came to visit and we went to Cherokee S. C. to search their records but it was a week - end and the offices were closed but we did find the Museum open and around the walls were pictures of past chiefs > but only their Cherokee names, Many of these men features favored a picture my four Uncles . This was why I begun my genealogy research with my COKER line, we needed to prove our indian blood line so our children could benefit from their Native American heritage. > We may be descend from the Choctaw nation but have found no records of yet. > But, still think Cherokee, Joseph Dempsey COKER was not the only Coker to have married into the early five civilized tribes. > Becky, I do appreicate your suggestions, yes, I realized that Sebe was a nick, but it could also be C. B. > Sorry, if I seem to be rambling but this all is connceted. I feel we must look at the whole picture not one thread at a time. > Blessings > Evelyne aka Texann > > > > Rebecca Glenn-Dickson wrote: > > > > Eveline, > > Maybe someone on the list can help you. > > > > You mentioned that yours is Ceburn B. mispelled as Sebe. We had a Sebe Napier named > > after his grandfather Seburn Coker. "Sebe" wasn't a mispelling, it was a "nickname" > > I think in our case. > > > > Becky > > > > Eveline Crocker wrote: > > > > > Hello; Everyone; > > > Thanks for the information but, excuse me, > > > I see that this is not the direct line of my Great Great grandfather WILLIAM WARREN COKER. but, they are related in the older generation from Carolina. > > > The names are handed down for generations , names like Joseph, William, Drury and Thomas. > > > > > > I see you have a Dicey bn abt. 1833, Warren COKER had a sister who married Wm. Wheelis aka Wheelas aka Wheelock in Washington Al in 1836. > > > Warren's wife and oldest son, my great grandfather, JOSEPH JAMES COKER, named WARREN COKER'S brothers and sisters in an interview with an newspaper editor who wrote a history book of North West Texas in 1909. > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Subscription management instructions are posted at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

HI, See if this helps. Crawford County, AR 1850 Federal Census Census_Year 1850 Microfilm # M432-25 State AR County Crawford DIVISION: Sugar Loaf Township REEL NO: M432-25 PAGE NO: 274B 40 83 84 Coker Seborn 23 M Farmer Ark X 41 83 84 Coker Amanda J 18 F Ten X 42 83 84 Coker Samantha J 2 F Ark TTYL: Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eveline Crocker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 1:12 PM Subject: [Coker] Re: [Fwd: Fwd: Sebe Coker and Amanda Predella TUCKER] > Becky and list; > Thank you for your suggestion. > I feel that since there are so many given and surnames mis - spelled that the C. B. , Seaborn was given the nick of Sebe, but, it is strange that it was used in legal papers and since I found Seaborn B. on the Ms. Army of the Confederacy roster , I believe he is my > WARREN COKER's brother, until proved otherwise. > I see there were three Seaborns about the same age, Seaborn B. COKER , Ms.; SEABORN S. COKER and SEABORN C. COKER OF AL AND ARK.. > SEABORN and Gallant C. COKER were both living across the Al line in Ms. They both were said to be born in the area about the time Al. was taken out of Ms. Territory and became a state. They didn't move , the States and counties boundaries did. > > These are the brothers and sisters my Great Great grandmother NANCY WILLBANKS Coker knew in Al before coming to Tx.., Sebe, Greene, Gallant, Getty , Diadem and Mrs. Wheelis (Dicey Coker). Warren COKER died in 1892, she died in 1912, the author of the book had her death in > 1902 but my mom had records of her death as 1912. She lived with her daughter, Nancy Elizabeth, aka Lizzie Coker (Mrs. Jackson Gage) Crawford according to the 1900 Tx. soundex. > > I have not proven G. B. aka Greene B was our Green Coker yet so would like input on this. > > I do hope people on the list will assist me as I have given so much of mine information on that C. D.. and personal contact. I have read every post to the list that is in the archives of the list and forum. > > Plus, I am backing up and researching my previous information again. > > I found that Seaborn (Sebe) Coker hasn't been proven as the husband of Amanda Tucker on several posts to the list. What is the proof here? Just a similar name of a descendant or is there a bible or marriage record or a military record or census naming her as his wife ??? > > In that case, then Dicey Dial was one of the wives of Old John Coker S. C. since my WARREN COKER had a sister called DICEY aka La DICIA WHICH IS FRENCH or SPANISH. Her mother was born in La or Louisana Territory. > My grandmother, Preal Coker Tarr once mentioned her mother was bn in New Orleans now I believe it was her greatgrandmother, Warren Coker's mother. > > If anyone on the list has a copy of Seaborn B. Coker's Ms. Army of the confederacy military records I would appreciate a copy. It should tell where he was born. > Gallant's and Warren's did. > > There was an legend that WARREN Coker's family was part Cherokee from the eastern Tribe and his Father was in the 1833 Trail of Tears out of AL so I began my genealogy research years ago to prove this but all the reports came back negative. I even paid a Cherokee > researcher , Mrs Mooney in Oklahoma to do a search. > > I was so sure because when we live in Blount co Tn in 1972, my parents came to visit and we went to Cherokee S. C. to search their records but it was a week - end and the offices were closed but we did find the Museum open and around the walls were pictures of past chiefs > but only their Cherokee names, Many of these men features favored a picture my four Uncles . This was why I begun my genealogy research with my COKER line, we needed to prove our indian blood line so our children could benefit from their Native American heritage. > We may be descend from the Choctaw nation but have found no records of yet. > But, still think Cherokee, Joseph Dempsey COKER was not the only Coker to have married into the early five civilized tribes. > Becky, I do appreicate your suggestions, yes, I realized that Sebe was a nick, but it could also be C. B. > Sorry, if I seem to be rambling but this all is connceted. I feel we must look at the whole picture not one thread at a time. > Blessings > Evelyne aka Texann > > > > Rebecca Glenn-Dickson wrote: > > > > Eveline, > > Maybe someone on the list can help you. > > > > You mentioned that yours is Ceburn B. mispelled as Sebe. We had a Sebe Napier named > > after his grandfather Seburn Coker. "Sebe" wasn't a mispelling, it was a "nickname" > > I think in our case. > > > > Becky > > > > Eveline Crocker wrote: > > > > > Hello; Everyone; > > > Thanks for the information but, excuse me, > > > I see that this is not the direct line of my Great Great grandfather WILLIAM WARREN COKER. but, they are related in the older generation from Carolina. > > > The names are handed down for generations , names like Joseph, William, Drury and Thomas. > > > > > > I see you have a Dicey bn abt. 1833, Warren COKER had a sister who married Wm. Wheelis aka Wheelas aka Wheelock in Washington Al in 1836. > > > Warren's wife and oldest son, my great grandfather, JOSEPH JAMES COKER, named WARREN COKER'S brothers and sisters in an interview with an newspaper editor who wrote a history book of North West Texas in 1909. > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Subscription management instructions are posted at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Yes, there are a lot of records that are miss used. There are a lot of Facts & Genealogies of Families that have been fabricated. Every thing has to be checked. We did several lines back in 1995 some of these were full of data an sources on the Coker site. There is a repeat of names in the coker lines every other seem to have duplication of names every 40-50 years the names will repeat. Some repeat every generation. Different branches brothers. You may be having trouble with Uncle or Father, Son or Grandfather Duplication of names. You are trying to connect Joseph who died (the Will 1774) names wife Milly and sons Isaac, Jacob, Abraham and Malachi Coker. That has been research so much and everyone went "Brain Dead" afterwards :}:} No exact answers or results. Have fun, TTYL, Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > dwight the will says 1759 not 1780 thats why i wonder but i also found on laterday saint sight where it says father of claiborne coker and dennis coker was john cocker and margaret hadfield in this region of england matley mottram, cheshire, england now i dont know if that is just listing the places where born married or what but this is first time i got anything off of lds sight that shows name for father. i find it odd that will is written in 1759 and names a joseph and then finding this on lds sight name john as a father too. > it leads we have not had before so i question whether someone has take a will into their usage that may not be theirs line. > > gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dwight Stipes > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > HI, > Is this the Joseph you are trying to connect to > Joseph Coker (Son of John and Priscilla (Geddings) Coker). Married abt 1745 > to Mary Aldredge " of Roanoke". Will dated 1792, probated Laurens Co., SC., > 1772, first land granted him in South Carolina in Cravin Dist from which he > moved to Laurens prior to 1775. > > Dwight > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beth Gay" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > The Joseph Coker, son of John and Priscilla Coker was in Surry County, > North > > Carolina in 1781. See below. > > > > 15 November 1781 - Joseph Coker on a jury Surry County, North Carolina - > > Henry Speer Vs Robert Speer. Reference Absher and Hayes, p.5. > > > > Post some more information on the Joseph Coker that you are searching for. > > > > Beth Gay > > > > From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:03 AM > > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > > > > beth gay, > > > > > > > > > do you know if the jospeh in this will dies in 1774 or not because this > is > > right in about the age me and a couple of other are looking for. > > > > > > > > > gary coker > > > > > > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

dwight i found something odd the geneology thru latter day saints show claiborne and dennis parents as john cocker and margaret hadfield when you look at tree it doesnt even show a joseph coker or abraham it goes straight to the two name the film # 537220 page #28 makes me wonder now if their were not two different claibornes and two different dennis cokers in illinois now meaning the claiborne and claybourne thing is how trusting is the latter day saint sight at being true to form? gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Dwight Stipes Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 Yes, there are a lot of records that are miss used. There are a lot of Facts & Genealogies of Families that have been fabricated. Every thing has to be checked. We did several lines back in 1995 some of these were full of data an sources on the Coker site. There is a repeat of names in the coker lines every other seem to have duplication of names every 40-50 years the names will repeat. Some repeat every generation. Different branches brothers. You may be having trouble with Uncle or Father, Son or Grandfather Duplication of names. You are trying to connect Joseph who died (the Will 1774) names wife Milly and sons Isaac, Jacob, Abraham and Malachi Coker. That has been research so much and everyone went "Brain Dead" afterwards :}:} No exact answers or results. Have fun, TTYL, Dwight ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > dwight the will says 1759 not 1780 thats why i wonder but i also found on laterday saint sight where it says father of claiborne coker and dennis coker was john cocker and margaret hadfield in this region of england matley mottram, cheshire, england now i dont know if that is just listing the places where born married or what but this is first time i got anything off of lds sight that shows name for father. i find it odd that will is written in 1759 and names a joseph and then finding this on lds sight name john as a father too. > it leads we have not had before so i question whether someone has take a will into their usage that may not be theirs line. > > gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dwight Stipes > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > HI, > Is this the Joseph you are trying to connect to > Joseph Coker (Son of John and Priscilla (Geddings) Coker). Married abt 1745 > to Mary Aldredge " of Roanoke". Will dated 1792, probated Laurens Co., SC., > 1772, first land granted him in South Carolina in Cravin Dist from which he > moved to Laurens prior to 1775. > > Dwight > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beth Gay" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > The Joseph Coker, son of John and Priscilla Coker was in Surry County, > North > > Carolina in 1781. See below. > > > > 15 November 1781 - Joseph Coker on a jury Surry County, North Carolina - > > Henry Speer Vs Robert Speer. Reference Absher and Hayes, p.5. > > > > Post some more information on the Joseph Coker that you are searching for. > > > > Beth Gay > > > > From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 9:03 AM > > Subject: Re: [Coker] John and Priscilla Coker, Brunswick Co, Va. - 1759 > > > > > > > beth gay, > > > > > > > > > do you know if the jospeh in this will dies in 1774 or not because this > is > > right in about the age me and a couple of other are looking for. > > > > > > > > > gary coker > > > > > > > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. 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