While I am sure that the majority of Crocker's listed in records are just that; I have found clerks who recorded Crocker when these people were actually Coker's, so if you find a Crocker in your research I would recommend researching a little further to determine whether you actually have a Crocker or a Coker. I do not find it anymore confusing than the other various spellings such as Cooker, Cocker, Coquer, Cocor, etc. You just much research far enough to determine the correct family name.
Dwight; I have just last week informed the COKER list that the CROCKERS and COKERS are two different families and HAVE DONE THROUGH RESEACH AS TO THE family standings, so please don't get new COKER or CROCKER genealogist reseachers confused BY CALLING the CROCKER families COKERS or the COKER families CROCKERS !!!! Thank you! I am happily both A CROCKER COUSIN AND COKER COUSIN. A few intermarriaed with the COKERS as my dad (HORACE N. CROCKER) did with my mother (MAEZELL TARR) whose mother PEARL C. TARR was a DAUGHTER of JOSEPH JAMES COKER of MONTAGUE AND COOKE CO. TX, AND CHOCTAW AL. For more information concerning the CROCKERs begin on <http://www.geocities.com/texannusa36/thehouseofcrocker.html> , there you will find very informative links to the CROCKER family history as well as links to the CROCKER MAILING LIST ARCHIVES and THE CROCKER COUSINS site.. Please, look for yourself. Thank you! blessings Evelyn CROCKER descendant of CROCKER, TARR, COKER,DUKE, BELL, GANDY, BRYANT, CAMPBELL, DE WITT, KIRBY, TOLLESON,AMYETT , KROH (CROW), KLINGENSMITH (CLINGENSMITH). CROCKER not COKER or any of the varients of the COKER name. Dwight Stipes wrote: > > Hi, Does any one have any info on this coker ??? > WILL: William Crocker son of Edward son of Anthony Isle of Wight Will bk 1793 Pg 250. > 8 Grand-children signed by William Crocker the younger 22 Dec 1792 Wit. William Blunt. Children: Molly, Benjamin, Joseph, Sally, Henry > > d. 1788, John, Milner, Major William. > John Chapman Sr. Appraised Will William Crocker 1796 > Mary dau. of William Crocker Md. William Chapman 1778. > > Milner son of William above Md. 1st Mary Chapman 4 Feb 1800; 2nd Molly Chapman dau. of Benjamin Chapman 1814. > > Is this the same (Joseph b.abt1760, son of William b.abt1738,son of Edward b.abt1665)? Who do they connect to? what line? does the line end here? > > Dwight > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Querie Board > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
Gary, I'm sorry but I am not aware of any of the southern IL Cokers who ended up around Springfield, IL area...that is not to say it is impossible, but my research on the Cokers remains in the beginning stages with most of my time spent on another branch of the family. Marilyn > From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:23:56 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] Crocker > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:17:48 -0600 > > Marlyn > > there is coker's in jacksonville morgan county also some buried in hebron > cemetary other the dennis coker if i remeber there is a margaret and john > coker their as well and one child. > > > gary coker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary Coker > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:18 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] Crocker > > lynnjack, > > what part of illinoise you suspecting there were some in jacksonville region > but dont know of any being associated to rev. wilson but does not mean one of > the daughter of a coker or son didnt marry one. give me some info if you > could. > > gary coker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lynnjack > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:36 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] Crocker > > I have been watching this discussion of the Cokers of northern NC/southern > VA from the sidelines because I have little to give except a suspicion of an > earlier Coker/Wilson connection than our proven one in southern IL to Rev > Charles Coker's granddau., Emily Grace Davisson. > > However our Wilson / Willson family was in the same area early, in Chowan, > Bertie, Northampton, Halifax, Edgecombe counties. They really did not move > that much, rather the counties were moving out from under their land. > > There was a James Wilson Coker in Northampton and a supposed Milner - > Crocker - Willis Wilson marriage there also. The details of this last I > would have to look up. > > Marilyn > > > >> From: "Dwight Stipes" <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:14:08 -0400 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Coker] Crocker >> Resent-From: [email protected] >> Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:07:34 -0600 >> >> Hi, Does any one have any info on this coker ??? >> WILL: William Crocker son of Edward son of Anthony Isle of Wight Will bk 1793 >> Pg 250. >> 8 Grand-children signed by William Crocker the younger 22 Dec 1792 Wit. >> William Blunt. Children: Molly, Benjamin, Joseph, Sally, Henry >> >> d. 1788, John, Milner, Major William. >> John Chapman Sr. Appraised Will William Crocker 1796 >> Mary dau. of William Crocker Md. William Chapman 1778. >> >> Milner son of William above Md. 1st Mary Chapman 4 Feb 1800; 2nd Molly >> Chapman >> dau. of Benjamin Chapman 1814. >> >> Is this the same (Joseph b.abt1760, son of William b.abt1738,son of Edward >> b.abt1665)? Who do they connect to? what line? does the line end here? >> >> Dwight >> >> >> ==== COKER Mailing List ==== >> Coker Querie Board >> http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from > the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > The Coker Forum http://www.cokers.org/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from > the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Querie Board > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WINNINGHAM COKER STEVENSON/STEPHENSON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BVJ.2ACIB/907.906.910.909.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi! Charlotte, Careful about filling in those blanks. That's what got me mixed up with the Coker's. I was only trying to find the death date of Temperance Stevenson/Winningham when I found another mg to Philip Coker in Lauderdale Cty MS in 1844. What was he doing in MS? All his Children seem to have been born in AL. When I found them there I Thought the new child Charles had to have been born there as well but the Census records all show MS so he must have staid in MS a while. It was only because I knew she had a son William Wesley Winningham that led me to check in AR. Thanks for the info from 1900 Census for Charles. I missed it and was checking elsewhere. As you see I have little knowledge of Cokers but am sending what I have accumulated in my Winningham/Stevenson search. John W Coker is listed seperately in 1860, 1870, and 1900 on the Drew Cty Census. Charles evidently had 3 different wives as you've discovered a 3rd and I already had 2. You might find it less stressful fo the list to contact me at [email protected] Hope something helps. Mary ================================= Descendants of Phillip COKER Jr - 26 Apr 2002 as collected from 1850 Shelby Cty AL Census and 1860 Drew Cty AR Census. He must have died before 1880 Drew Cty Census enumeration because Temperence Coker age 76 is listed as Mother in hh of William Wesley Winningham. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Phillip COKER b: 1796 in S C sp: Temperance A STEVENSON/WINNINGHAM b: 1804 in SC m: 21 Jul 1844 in Lauderdale Co MS 2-Charles T COKER b: Sep 1845 in Shelby? Cty AL sp: Patience HONEYCUT m: 11 Dec 1818 in Montgomery AL 2-Sarah COKER b: abt 1830 in AL 2-Nancy COKER b: abt 1832 in AL 2-John COKER b: abt 1835 in AL 2-Alexander COKER b: abt 1838 2-Thomas COKER b: abt 1839 in AL INDIVIDUAL REPORT: Name: Charles T COKER Sex: Male Father: Phillip COKER Jr (1796 - ) Mother: Temperance A STEVENSON (1804 - ) Individual Facts Birth Sep 1845 Shelby? Cty AL1,2 Residence: 7 Dec 1850 Family Home Shelby Cty AL; Shelby Cty AL4 Residence: 3 Jul 1860 Family Home Spring Hill TWSP Drew Cty AR; Monticello Drew Cty AR5 Residence: 6 Jul 1870 Own Home Spring Hill TWSP Drew Cty AR; Monticello Drew Cty AR6 Residence: 24 Jun 1880 Own Home Spring Hill TWSP Drew Cty AR; Drew Cty AR7 Marriages/Children 1. Mary J UNK Marriage 1868 Drew Cty AR8 Children Tennessee COKER (1869 - ) 2. 2nd wf Verna? UNK Marriage 1874 Drew Cty AR9 Children Philip D COKER (Dec 1874 - ) Sources: Available
Gary; Emily Grace Davisson was the dau of William Wisley Davisson and Elizabeth Coker of McLeansboro, Hamilton Co. IL. Elizabeth Coker was the dau of Rev Charles Coker & his 2nd wife, Catherine Sonyard. Rev. Charles Coker was the son of William Coker out of Blount & Maury Co? TN and that is all I can do from memory. All of my files are packed away while a proper office is being built. I do have siblings for Elizabeth but can't get to them. Back before that Dwight has better information then I do. Hope that might help a little. Marilyn > From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:21:37 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] Crocker > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:15:19 -0600 > > lynnjack, > > what part of illinoise you suspecting there were some in jacksonville region > but dont know of any being associated to rev. wilson but does not mean one of > the daughter of a coker or son didnt marry one. give me some info if you > could. > > gary coker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lynnjack > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:36 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] Crocker > > I have been watching this discussion of the Cokers of northern NC/southern > VA from the sidelines because I have little to give except a suspicion of an > earlier Coker/Wilson connection than our proven one in southern IL to Rev > Charles Coker's granddau., Emily Grace Davisson. > > However our Wilson / Willson family was in the same area early, in Chowan, > Bertie, Northampton, Halifax, Edgecombe counties. They really did not move > that much, rather the counties were moving out from under their land. > > There was a James Wilson Coker in Northampton and a supposed Milner - > Crocker - Willis Wilson marriage there also. The details of this last I > would have to look up. > > Marilyn > > > >> From: "Dwight Stipes" <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:14:08 -0400 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Coker] Crocker >> Resent-From: [email protected] >> Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:07:34 -0600 >> >> Hi, Does any one have any info on this coker ??? >> WILL: William Crocker son of Edward son of Anthony Isle of Wight Will bk 1793 >> Pg 250. >> 8 Grand-children signed by William Crocker the younger 22 Dec 1792 Wit. >> William Blunt. Children: Molly, Benjamin, Joseph, Sally, Henry >> >> d. 1788, John, Milner, Major William. >> John Chapman Sr. Appraised Will William Crocker 1796 >> Mary dau. of William Crocker Md. William Chapman 1778. >> >> Milner son of William above Md. 1st Mary Chapman 4 Feb 1800; 2nd Molly >> Chapman >> dau. of Benjamin Chapman 1814. >> >> Is this the same (Joseph b.abt1760, son of William b.abt1738,son of Edward >> b.abt1665)? Who do they connect to? what line? does the line end here? >> >> Dwight >> >> >> ==== COKER Mailing List ==== >> Coker Querie Board >> http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from > the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > The Coker Forum http://www.cokers.org/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Marlyn there is coker's in jacksonville morgan county also some buried in hebron cemetary other the dennis coker if i remeber there is a margaret and john coker their as well and one child. gary coker ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Coker Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Coker] Crocker lynnjack, what part of illinoise you suspecting there were some in jacksonville region but dont know of any being associated to rev. wilson but does not mean one of the daughter of a coker or son didnt marry one. give me some info if you could. gary coker ----- Original Message ----- From: lynnjack Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Coker] Crocker I have been watching this discussion of the Cokers of northern NC/southern VA from the sidelines because I have little to give except a suspicion of an earlier Coker/Wilson connection than our proven one in southern IL to Rev Charles Coker's granddau., Emily Grace Davisson. However our Wilson / Willson family was in the same area early, in Chowan, Bertie, Northampton, Halifax, Edgecombe counties. They really did not move that much, rather the counties were moving out from under their land. There was a James Wilson Coker in Northampton and a supposed Milner - Crocker - Willis Wilson marriage there also. The details of this last I would have to look up. Marilyn > From: "Dwight Stipes" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:14:08 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Coker] Crocker > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:07:34 -0600 > > Hi, Does any one have any info on this coker ??? > WILL: William Crocker son of Edward son of Anthony Isle of Wight Will bk 1793 > Pg 250. > 8 Grand-children signed by William Crocker the younger 22 Dec 1792 Wit. > William Blunt. Children: Molly, Benjamin, Joseph, Sally, Henry > > d. 1788, John, Milner, Major William. > John Chapman Sr. Appraised Will William Crocker 1796 > Mary dau. of William Crocker Md. William Chapman 1778. > > Milner son of William above Md. 1st Mary Chapman 4 Feb 1800; 2nd Molly Chapman > dau. of Benjamin Chapman 1814. > > Is this the same (Joseph b.abt1760, son of William b.abt1738,son of Edward > b.abt1665)? Who do they connect to? what line? does the line end here? > > Dwight > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Querie Board > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ==== COKER Mailing List ==== The Coker Forum http://www.cokers.org/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
marylyn, have you access to illinoise land records on ancestory.com if so go look type in coker and see what comes up. specially at the meridian area everyone of the cokers bought in same region almost or with miles of each other. yet no relation very questionable course everyone denies four or three coker brother comming over but i find it odd these names are on list john james william charles then also anthony, claybourn dennnis abram b, and cathatrine coker, most of this land though was bought eldest being william coker 1818 clabourn coker 1826 dennis coker 1827 dennis coker 1830 claiborne coker 1830 charles coker 1836 charles coker 1839 then none till mid 1800's catharine coker 1850 anthony coker 1851 joseph coker 1851 john coker 1852 william coker 1852 john coker 1852 cathrine coker 1852 anthony coker 1852 clabourn coker 1853 joseph coker 1853 abram b coker 1853 william coker 1853 joseph coker 1854 james coker 1854 john coker 1855 most ranges are with in stones throwing distance yet these folks arent related? I know dennis and claybourn are but other I dont know but find it odd the land is in close proximity to each other and all of them bought it in big lots 8000 acres down to 4000 acres some are more but average is the same. only break i see is claybourn and dennis they are in 19 18 sections but william coke was in section 10 later see him in 5 or 6.... find it hard to believe these people arent related. gary coker ----- Original Message ----- From: lynnjack Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Coker] Crocker Gary; Emily Grace Davisson was the dau of William Wisley Davisson and Elizabeth Coker of McLeansboro, Hamilton Co. IL. Elizabeth Coker was the dau of Rev Charles Coker & his 2nd wife, Catherine Sonyard. Rev. Charles Coker was the son of William Coker out of Blount & Maury Co? TN and that is all I can do from memory. All of my files are packed away while a proper office is being built. I do have siblings for Elizabeth but can't get to them. Back before that Dwight has better information then I do. Hope that might help a little. Marilyn > From: "Gary Coker" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:21:37 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] Crocker > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:15:19 -0600 > > lynnjack, > > what part of illinoise you suspecting there were some in jacksonville region > but dont know of any being associated to rev. wilson but does not mean one of > the daughter of a coker or son didnt marry one. give me some info if you > could. > > gary coker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lynnjack > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:36 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Coker] Crocker > > I have been watching this discussion of the Cokers of northern NC/southern > VA from the sidelines because I have little to give except a suspicion of an > earlier Coker/Wilson connection than our proven one in southern IL to Rev > Charles Coker's granddau., Emily Grace Davisson. > > However our Wilson / Willson family was in the same area early, in Chowan, > Bertie, Northampton, Halifax, Edgecombe counties. They really did not move > that much, rather the counties were moving out from under their land. > > There was a James Wilson Coker in Northampton and a supposed Milner - > Crocker - Willis Wilson marriage there also. The details of this last I > would have to look up. > > Marilyn > > > >> From: "Dwight Stipes" <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:14:08 -0400 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Coker] Crocker >> Resent-From: [email protected] >> Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:07:34 -0600 >> >> Hi, Does any one have any info on this coker ??? >> WILL: William Crocker son of Edward son of Anthony Isle of Wight Will bk 1793 >> Pg 250. >> 8 Grand-children signed by William Crocker the younger 22 Dec 1792 Wit. >> William Blunt. Children: Molly, Benjamin, Joseph, Sally, Henry >> >> d. 1788, John, Milner, Major William. >> John Chapman Sr. Appraised Will William Crocker 1796 >> Mary dau. of William Crocker Md. William Chapman 1778. >> >> Milner son of William above Md. 1st Mary Chapman 4 Feb 1800; 2nd Molly >> Chapman >> dau. of Benjamin Chapman 1814. >> >> Is this the same (Joseph b.abt1760, son of William b.abt1738,son of Edward >> b.abt1665)? Who do they connect to? what line? does the line end here? >> >> Dwight >> >> >> ==== COKER Mailing List ==== >> Coker Querie Board >> http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from > the Web. 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I have been watching this discussion of the Cokers of northern NC/southern VA from the sidelines because I have little to give except a suspicion of an earlier Coker/Wilson connection than our proven one in southern IL to Rev Charles Coker's granddau., Emily Grace Davisson. However our Wilson / Willson family was in the same area early, in Chowan, Bertie, Northampton, Halifax, Edgecombe counties. They really did not move that much, rather the counties were moving out from under their land. There was a James Wilson Coker in Northampton and a supposed Milner - Crocker - Willis Wilson marriage there also. The details of this last I would have to look up. Marilyn > From: "Dwight Stipes" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:14:08 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Coker] Crocker > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:07:34 -0600 > > Hi, Does any one have any info on this coker ??? > WILL: William Crocker son of Edward son of Anthony Isle of Wight Will bk 1793 > Pg 250. > 8 Grand-children signed by William Crocker the younger 22 Dec 1792 Wit. > William Blunt. Children: Molly, Benjamin, Joseph, Sally, Henry > > d. 1788, John, Milner, Major William. > John Chapman Sr. Appraised Will William Crocker 1796 > Mary dau. of William Crocker Md. William Chapman 1778. > > Milner son of William above Md. 1st Mary Chapman 4 Feb 1800; 2nd Molly Chapman > dau. of Benjamin Chapman 1814. > > Is this the same (Joseph b.abt1760, son of William b.abt1738,son of Edward > b.abt1665)? Who do they connect to? what line? does the line end here? > > Dwight > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Querie Board > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Hi, Does any one have any info on this coker ??? WILL: William Crocker son of Edward son of Anthony Isle of Wight Will bk 1793 Pg 250. 8 Grand-children signed by William Crocker the younger 22 Dec 1792 Wit. William Blunt. Children: Molly, Benjamin, Joseph, Sally, Henry d. 1788, John, Milner, Major William. John Chapman Sr. Appraised Will William Crocker 1796 Mary dau. of William Crocker Md. William Chapman 1778. Milner son of William above Md. 1st Mary Chapman 4 Feb 1800; 2nd Molly Chapman dau. of Benjamin Chapman 1814. Is this the same (Joseph b.abt1760, son of William b.abt1738,son of Edward b.abt1665)? Who do they connect to? what line? does the line end here? Dwight
lynnjack, what part of illinoise you suspecting there were some in jacksonville region but dont know of any being associated to rev. wilson but does not mean one of the daughter of a coker or son didnt marry one. give me some info if you could. gary coker ----- Original Message ----- From: lynnjack Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Coker] Crocker I have been watching this discussion of the Cokers of northern NC/southern VA from the sidelines because I have little to give except a suspicion of an earlier Coker/Wilson connection than our proven one in southern IL to Rev Charles Coker's granddau., Emily Grace Davisson. However our Wilson / Willson family was in the same area early, in Chowan, Bertie, Northampton, Halifax, Edgecombe counties. They really did not move that much, rather the counties were moving out from under their land. There was a James Wilson Coker in Northampton and a supposed Milner - Crocker - Willis Wilson marriage there also. The details of this last I would have to look up. Marilyn > From: "Dwight Stipes" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:14:08 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Coker] Crocker > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:07:34 -0600 > > Hi, Does any one have any info on this coker ??? > WILL: William Crocker son of Edward son of Anthony Isle of Wight Will bk 1793 > Pg 250. > 8 Grand-children signed by William Crocker the younger 22 Dec 1792 Wit. > William Blunt. Children: Molly, Benjamin, Joseph, Sally, Henry > > d. 1788, John, Milner, Major William. > John Chapman Sr. Appraised Will William Crocker 1796 > Mary dau. of William Crocker Md. William Chapman 1778. > > Milner son of William above Md. 1st Mary Chapman 4 Feb 1800; 2nd Molly Chapman > dau. of Benjamin Chapman 1814. > > Is this the same (Joseph b.abt1760, son of William b.abt1738,son of Edward > b.abt1665)? Who do they connect to? what line? does the line end here? > > Dwight > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Querie Board > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
We Know that It's just fun to Pretend??? Everyone knows that the "Arms" are for direct Family members only. Who in America would want to be Royalty. I like being a Paschal, Maverek etc. America is about being an individual. Dwight Stipes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:06 AM Subject: [Coker] Arms of Cokers, but not Coker Arms > Hi cousins :) > As a long-time lurker on the heraldry newsgroup, I feel obliged to point out > that the following arms are NOT associated with the surname Coker, but are > associated with specific individuals and their direct descendants. In Scotland, you > could (in theory) be prosecuted for displaying arms without having a pedigreed link > back to the original grantee. In some European traditions (Polish, I believe), > there are such things as coats of arms for specific surnames, but that's unlikely to > affect Cokers. So, unless you've already traced your ancestry back to a Coker who > was granted one of these coats of arms, don't get too excited about having it > engraved on your silverware or carved over the mantlepiece. Also, one thing I've > learned from the heraldry newsgroup is not to expect symbols to have a specific > meaning. The Moor's head could possibly refer to a crusading Coker, but it could > just as well be an allusion to one who had noticeably black hair, i.e., the armorial > equivalent of a nickname of "Blackie". Unless you run across notes from the > original grantee (or someone fairly close to him), you're unlikely to be able to > pinpoint the meaning. > > Still, heraldry can be a very fascinating subject, and designing your own arms > would make a good family project. There is an American College of Heraldry, which > will assist you in registering your arms; keep in mind that, unlike the English > College of Arms or the Scottish Lyons Court, this registration carries ABSOLUTELY NO > LEGAL STANDING. The ACH site has links to other heraldry sites as well as a some > explanations about coats of arms and their symbolism. > > http://www.americancollegeofheraldry.org/acheraldry.html > > Francois Velde is a regular contributor to rec.heraldry, and extremely knowledgeable > about the subject, so his website is well worth a visit as well. > > http://www.heraldica.org/ > > If any Cokers do design our own arms, how about posting them here, either the blazon > (description) or a link to a website where we can view them? > > Thanks, > Keith Brown > > > Dwight Stipes wrote: > > > Hi, > > This was posted back in 1993 > > After having looked up a crest for COKER in "Fairbairn's Crests of the > > Families of Great Britain and Ireland" compiled by James Fairbairn, revised > > by Laurence Butters, I became curious about how the symbols were chosen. For > > example, the following descriptions: > > > > COKER, Dors., a moor's head, affronte'e, ppr., wreathed, ar. and gu. > > > > COKER, Dors., a moor's head, in profile, sa., wreathed, ar and gu. > > > > COKER, Lewis, Esq., of Bicester, Oxon., a moor's head, in profile, > > sa., wreathed, ar and gu. > > > > The book has pictures. The picture for the first description is a full face > > view of what appears to be an African. The next two descriptions are > > associated with the same picture - a side-view of a light (white?) skinned, > > dark-haired man. > > > > Dwight > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Keith J. Brown > Planning Division Email: [email protected] > University of North Carolina [email protected] > General Administration Phone: (919) 962-4547 > P.O. Box 2688 Voice: (919) 962-4547 > Chapel Hill, NC 27515-2688 Fax: (919) 962-4316 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Coker Querie Board > http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Coker > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
sorry I did not receive a copy of the Coat-of Arms yet and could you forward another if possible. Thanks so very much. g. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: [Coker] Coker coat of arms > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Coker , Booker , Stuckey , Brooks , Hardee, Hixon , Ex. > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BVJ.2ACIB/1013 > > Message Board Post: > > Hope everyone whom ask me for a copy of the Coker coat of arms recieved one of two different prints or both , I had a few e-mails that came back . > Dose anyone have Coker's in Alabama related to the Stuckey's , Raines , or Booker's in the Lower Alabama Counties . Debbie N. > > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > Subscription management instructions are posted at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/coker.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/58.77.79 Message Board Post: Sarah, did you ever find more on the parents of your Ellender Caroline Coker, b 24 May 1828, Shelby Co., AL? Where did she and husband Joel Fowler Wilson live? Names of children? I have a hunch, but thought naming pattern for children might help. Hope to hear from you. Charlotte
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/907.906.910.909.1 Message Board Post: Mary -- I was so happy to see your posting concerning Philip Coker, Jr. I have been searching AL. 1860 census, with no luck. He's not my direct line, but I believe my ggg grandfather, John Wesley Coker, was his brother, and that they were both sons of Philip, b ca 1766. This older Philip was living with Jr. in 1850, Shelby Co., so unless he's lived another 10 years longer and is shown with Jr. in 1860, Drew Co., we can assume he died between those two census records. Your Charles T. Coker was shown on 1900 AR Soundex, Drew Co., Clear Creek Twp., 11-69,5-21: Charles T. Coker, b Sep 1845, 54, MS; Sarah J., wife, b Aug 1840, 59, b SC; Philip B., son, b Dec 1874, 25, b AR; Jessie L., Niece, b Jan 1878, 22, AR; and boarder Milton Rawby/Rawly?, b Apr 1880, 20, b AR. A half brother of Charles was also in Drew Co., 1880 and 1900. His name was John A. (1880), AL, or John W. (1900), with wife Amanda, b AL, and several children. I can send you the names of those children if you like. Two other possible children of Philip, Jr.'s by his first wife Patience, Fatha/Hatha Ann Coker who married James Lawrence Samuel Butts Clower, and Alexander Coker who may have married Rebecca Mozelle Bassett, also moved to Drew Co. Don't know what the draw was for that locale. I would appreciate anything you could tell me about Philip, Jr. I'm just trying to accurately fill in all the blanks. Look forward to hearing from you. Charlotte
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BVJ.2ACIB/372.660.1 Message Board Post: Hi Diane, I'm sorry for responding so late I just came by your responce by accident! That is the same Austin Coker, I have a marriage license for my ggg-grandfather(Fountain C. Tomberlin and a Mathilda Coker with the brides fathers signature! Austin Coker. I believe Susan was an aunt of Fountain she is listed in my family tree,but the relationship is not proven. Have you got any info on George haveing an older sister(hopefully a stepsister? my e-mail address is [email protected]
Hi Dwight, All I know is the following. Descendants of Pryor Sexton and Catherine Coker Sexton, daughter of John Michael Coker, still live on the land pioneered by William and Thornton Sexton, sons of Pryor. Danny Miller states that the will of John M Coker was signed in German. Also my biggest information source in Little Grassy Creek, NC stated to me that someone in the family has some letters written to John M Coker from Germany and written in German. Therefore it has been assumed that John M Coker was from Germany. It has always been passed down through these descendants living in Little Grassy Creek that Catherine Coker, the wife of Pryor, was German. Sorry I cannot be of more help, Paula of Tulsa
dwight, I have actually found coker's to be german , irish , french, & english from what I have seen its in the spelling of coker that gives the origin kiker, coaker, coker are english spelling of name kocker german, cocker supposively is irish, coquer is french ....how much of this is true but even the coker name in england from my understanding actually started from france and came thru the blood line of king henry the 8th wife that is why the silver in the crest from my understanding gold being of king silver being of queen. garycoker ----- Original Message ----- From: Dwight Stipes Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Coker] Re: sally coker Hi, I Have a question about John Michael Coker signing in German ??? Why?? why do you think he signed in German?? Was he from German/Germanic or was some one of his children married to a German?? I was had the impression the Coker was English. Some what confusing can you inlightin me. Thank you TTYL, Dwight Stipes ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [Coker] Re: sally coker > Your Sarah Coker was the daughter of John Michael Coker and wife Susanna. In > John's will he stated that all of his estate real and personal to be given to > wife Susanna and after her death it was to be divided in the following: to > daughters Susanna Coker Robill (Robill later became Roberts) 8 pounds and > balance of estate to be equally divided between Susanna Coker Roberts, Caty > Sexton and Sally Weatherhold or Wheatherhold. Catherine Sexton was a fifth > great grandmother to me. John Michael Coker's will was signed in german. > The will was probated March 1799. Most of John Michael Cokers land (along > with plantation) was sold to Pryor and Catherine Sexton, some shortly before > his death and the rest shortly after his death. > > Hope this helps you out. > > Paula in Tulsa > Researching Sexton, Cokers, and Piersons > > > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== > http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ > SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== COKER Mailing List ==== http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Coker , Booker , Stuckey , Brooks , Hardee, Hixon , Ex. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BVJ.2ACIB/1013 Message Board Post: Hope everyone whom ask me for a copy of the Coker coat of arms recieved one of two different prints or both , I had a few e-mails that came back . Dose anyone have Coker's in Alabama related to the Stuckey's , Raines , or Booker's in the Lower Alabama Counties . Debbie N.
At 10:20 AM 4/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: >My dear cousin -- > >Recently, I've been unable to concentrate on family research as much as I >would like. Yesterday and today, I'm trying to at least acknowledge some >messages, but I feel you deserve more than that. > >I would like to heap accolades upon your head, but will only comment that >you may be the most accurate and thorough researcher that I have encountered >in my thirty+ years of involvement in this wonderful, fun, fascinating >study! And, your expertise is shadowed only by your generosity!! > >I sincerely appreciate your sharing all your precious accumulation of "dug >up" facts about our ancestors. Everyone should take a page from your book >concerning documentation and attention to detail. > >So, thanks........... > >Charlotte Many Thanks!!! You are too kind......I've always thought the exact same thing about you and have tried to use you as an example. I'm still a newcomer to family research and I've learned so much from you and others along the way. Keep well - God bless! Pat >==== COKER Mailing List ==== >http://www.egroups.com/group/Coker/ >SUBSCRIBE: [email protected] > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
Thanks, Keith, for posting. This is very interesting. I have read the same thing. That is why the CROCKER COUSINS chose to design their own arms tying it into the old CROCKER arms of ENGLAND, yet changing by adding a steaming mug (cup) of liquid. It may be seen on my House of CROCKER site at <http://www.geocities.com/texannusa36/thehouseofcrocker.html> Don't be bashful, let us hear from you more, Keith. Blessings: Evelyn Crocker also a COKER descendant