Hi Arleen, Please see my notations below that are *** Karen Karen, I have not had time to see the new data bases, but sure they are great and helpful to many. Many thanks for your hard work. ***Thank you! ........speaking of brick wall"s", I have a few :) Maybe someone can help me or offer advice. My ggrandparents were José Ignacio/Ynacio Martinez and Antonia Quintana. They had two sons, one by the name of José Eliseo Martinez. I can not find any information on José Ignacio Martinez or Antonia Quintana. I found their names in a oral history. I have read just about every entry so far on the Huerfano site. Where do I go from here? *** You would first look in surrounding areas for any records. I did this and found them at Our Lady of Guadalupe in Conejos, Co. Marriage: 11-5-1873 Jose Ignacio Martines, widower, son of Jose Guadalupe Martinez and _____ Romero, both deceased, married Maria Antonia Quintana, single, daughter of Jose Dolores Quintana and Maria Josefa Mascarenas, deceased, resident of Servillita. Witnesses: Jose Maria Valdez and Guadalupe Garcia. Death: 4-27-1874 Maria Ascension Juliana Martin, 1 year old, daughter of Jose Ignacio Martin and Maria Antonia Quintana, resident of Servilleta. Death: 1-11-1886 Jose Dolores Martin, 1 year old, son of Jose Ignacio Martin and Maria Antonia Quintana if Servilleta. Buried in Our Lady of Guadalupe Cemetery. This MAY be a clue: Death: 3-5-1875 Maria Prudencia Martinez, 27 years old, daughter of Ignacio Martinez and Beatriz Jaramillo, wife of Juan Manuel Cenobio Gallegos. On the Martinez side I did not find anything at Conejos on Jose Guadalupe Martinez and his wife. On the Quintana side: Death: 1-12-1862 Antonio Jose Quintana, 3 years old, son of Jose Dolores Quintana and Maria Josefa Mascarenas. Buried church of Guadalupe. Death: 12-27-1863 Maria Josefa Mascarenas, 40 years old, wife of Jose Dolores Quintana. Guadalupe Chapel. Death: 5-12-1869 Maria Manuela Quintana, 8 years old, daughter of Jose Dolores Quintana and Maria Josefa Mascarenas. Our Lady of Guadalupe Cemetery. Marriage: 1-20-1873 Jose Damasio Salas, single, son of Encarnacion Salas, deceased, and Maria Dolores Espinosa, married Maria Georgia Quintana, single, daughter of Jose Dolores Quintana and Maria Josefa Mascarenas, deceased, resident of Pinos. Witnesses: Juan Jose Mascarenas and Juana Marquez. Marriage: 2-23-1873 Jose Feliciano Barela, single, son of Jose Dolores Barela and Maria Guadalupe Lopez, resident of Cenicero, married Maria Trinidad Quintana, resident of Cenicero, single, daughter of Jose Dolores Quintana and Josefa Mascarenas, deceased. Witnesses: Jose Camilo Gallegos and Desideria Fresques. I will suspect that you will find more records in Taos County, NM as that is where Servilleta is. 2nd brick wall.........gggranparents, Juan Gabriel CHACON and María de la Luz ____, had a daughter by the name of María Magdalena CHACON. María Magdalena b 16-05-58 or 59 d 25-04-42, buried in San Arroyo........how do I find information on Juan Gabriel and María de la Luz, her parents? Where do I go? Again I have tried to read everything on this site so far. ***** Again, you must check around to see what the surrounding areas show. Many of the Huerfano Hispanic families came out of the Taos area up through Conejos. I think this is the couple you are looking for, again from the Conejos records: Baptism: 3-13-1871 Tomas de Aquino Chacon, 6 days old, natural son of Maria Dolores Chacon. Sponsors: Juan Gabriel Chacon and Maria Madalena Chacon. Baptism: 3-26-1871 Maria Elivia Chacon, 5 days old, daughter of Francisco Antonio Chacon and Maria Felipa Martines. Sponsors: Juan Gabriel Chacon and Maria de la Luz Velasquez. Juan Gabriel is mentioned as early as 9-28-1860 as a witness at a marriage. Marriage: 1-14-1863 Juan Francisco Chacon, resident, son of Juan Gabriel Chacon and Maria de la Luz Velasquez, married Maria Josefa Valdez, resident, daughter of Jose Ignacio Valdez and Maria de la Luz Chavez, deceased. Witnesses for betrothed: Jose Manuel Martinez and Jose Nemesio Lucero. Witnesses: Antonio Jose Lobato and Juan Maria Vasquez. Sponsors: Jose Simon Garcia and Maria Deluvina Valdez. Marriage: 11-29-1866 Francisco Antonio Chacon, son of Juan Gabriel Chacon and Maria de la Luz Velasquez, married Maria Felipa Martinez, daughter of Juan Nicolas Martinez and Maria de Guadalupe Ruival. Witnesses; Juan Francisco Chacon and Jose Francisco Martinez, Sponsors: Jesus Maria Velasquez and Maria Dolores Sanchez. Marriage: 1-5-1870 Jesus Maria Valdez, single, parents not given, married Maria Estefana Chacon, single, daughter of Juan Gabriel Chacon and Maria de la Luz Velasquez. Witnesses: Juan Francisco Chacon and Juan Antonio Valdez. Sponsors: Lafayette Head and Juana de la Cruz Martin. Marriage: 11-25-1870 Nestor Chacon, single, son of Juan Gabriel Chacon and Maria de la Luz Velasquez, married Maria Dolores Maes, single, daughter of Benino Maes and Maria Rufino Rodriguez. Witnesses: Jesus Maria Valdez and Pedro Ignacio Chacon. Sponsors: Jose Simon Garcia and Maria Delubina Valdez. Marriage: 11-18-1871 Tomas Antonio Rodriguez single, son of Jose Rafael Rodriguez and Maria Manuela Maes, married Maria Madalena Chacon, single. Daughter of Juan Gabriel Chacon and Maria de la Luz Velasquez. Witnesses: Benino Maes and Antonio Maria Vigil. Sponsors: Jose Simon Garcia and Maria Deluvina Valdez. (***This is your 3rd brick wall) Marriage: 11-25-1873 Meliton Chacon from San Rafael, single, son of Juan Gabriel Chacon and Maria de la Luz Velasquez, married Maria de la Luz Lopez, also from San Rafael, single, daughter of Pablo Lopez and Maria Regina Valdez. Sponsors: Juan Francisco Chacon and Josefita Valdez. Marriage: 11-16-1874 Juan Archuleta, single from San Rafael, natural son of Maria Trinidad Archuleta, married Maria Agapita Chacon, adopted daughter of Juan Gabriel Chacon. Sponsors: Tomas Rodriguez and Madalena Chacon. Marriage: 11-27-1875 Antonio Lino Suaso, from Canon, son of Jesus Maria Suaso and Maria Pablita Archuleta, married Maria Cleofas Chacon, single, resident of San Rafael, daughter of Juan Gabriel Chacon and Maria de la Luz Velasquez. Sponsors: Jose Bonifacio Lopez and Maria Pablita Suaso. Marriage: 11-11-1878 Juan Chacon, single, resident of San Rafael, son of Juan Gabriel Chacon and Maria de la Luz Velasquez, married Maria Teodosia Duran, single, resident of Canon, daughter of Jose Manuel Duran and Maria Rufina Valdez. Witnesses: Jesus Maria Valdez and Maria Estefana Chacon. Marriage: 1-8-1879 Jose Genovevo Trujillo single resident of San Rafael, son of J. Romualdo Trujillo and Maria de los Reyes Lovato, married Maria Escolastica Chacon, single resident of San Rafael, daughter of Juan Gabriel Chacon and Maria de la Luz Velasquez. Witnesses: Francisco Antonio Chacon, Maria Felipa Martin, Tomas Rodriguez, and Maria Magdalena Chacon. Death: 1-21-1862 Maria Rita Chacon, 10 years old, servant of Juan Gabriel Chacon and Maria de la Luz Velasquez. Guadalupe Cemetery. Death: 11-26-1877 Tomas de Aquino Chacon, adopted son of Gabriel Chacon, died yesterday in San Rafael, at the age of 7 years. Death: 12-26-1890 Juan Gabriel Chacon, died yesterday at the age of 78 years, husband of Maria de la Luz Velasquez, father of 12 children and grandfather of 106 grandchildren. There are more Chacon deaths, but I didn't have time to type them all up. 3rd brick wall.........Juan Antonio RODRIGUEZ and Manuelita Rodriguez had a son Tomas A. Rodriguez. He (Tomas ) is buried in Huerfano County..........but how do I go about finding info on his parents Juan Antonio and Manuelita?...... ***** You have the wrong person listed as the Father. See marriage record above. This MAY be the right record, wrong surname for wife: Death: 4-8-1872 Jose Rafael Rodriguez, 75 years old, resident of San Rafael, husband of Manuela Salazar. Our Lady of Guadalupe Church. Death: 6-10-1873 Juan Francisco Rodriguez, born yesterday, son Tomas Rodriguez and Maria Madalena Chacon, resident of San Rafael. Death: 5-20-1874 Juana Maria Rodriguez, 2 hours old, legitimate daughter of Tomas Rodriguez and Magdalena Chacon, resident of San Rafael. Death: 4-14-1875 Maria Felicita Rodriguez, 20 ____(Hours? Days? Months?) legitimate daughter of Tomas Rodriguez and Maria Madalena Chacon, resident of San Rafael. Death: 4-19-1878 Manuel Antonio Rodriguez, son of Tomas Rodriguez and Maria Magdalena Chacon, died yesterday in San Rafael, at the age of 1 year, 4 months, and 10 days. Death: 8-12-1880 One newborn son, baptized privately, legitimate son of Tomas Rodriguez and Madalena Chacon. Death: 3-15-1885 Ramoncita Rodriguez of San Rafael, died at the age of 25 days old, legitimate daughter of Tomas Rodriguez and Madelina Chacon. I hope these records have helped you. I suggest that you now contact Albert Vidaurre on our Taos County, NM mailing list and see if he can assist you with any of these families. Karen