Hi everybody! I have a virus. NO don't hit your delete button! It's all in my head <grin>, okay so the rest of the old body don't feel to great either, but my head feels like a bucket. Everyone up here has it. My grandchildren were sweet enough to share it with me. Luckily it only lasts about 5 days, and I'm on day 2. Well, good news...bad news. Bad news first. I took all the marriages down. As I was conversing with a gentleman on the marriages I got to comparing things and saw we had just too many errors. As I told you when I posted them, they hadn't been proofed yet. So I took them all down. Another thing I noticed was that the copies that Debra sent me, up to 1911, didn't match the microfilm I have. Evidently the books were filmed at two different times and one has more info than the other so I am combining the data. Which is good news for us. Good news. I've added the marriages for 1870 through 1878, proofed and re-posted the ones for 1910 to 1912, all with extended information. I am working on proofing the rest of them and will try to have them back online in a couple of days. BUT if you had marriages in the 1910 - 1912 database, you will need to go back and re-check them in case they had errors. Some of the errors were just in spelling, but some had the wrong parents listed or the wrong date. So check them carefully. If you find any errors please let me know so I can check them again. More good news. I have added the burial permits for 1942 - 1943 - 1944. I've also added the Index for County Book 1, which is the first book in the County Clerk's office that transactions were recorded in. It has a lot of neat stuff in it. The earliest marriage recorded in the County was in 1862. I can hardly wait to delve into the other books. I bet that's where we're going to find some of those marriages that we can't turn up elsewhere. And in the meantime I'm still clipping obits from these old newspapers that I have here. I have gone through 2 boxes so far and I think there's 2 more large ones to go. Right now I have a VERY FAT file folder full. I sent a message to my guru that I need to know how to scan newsprint effectively. Then I found out he's in Dallas for a week. Of all the nerve! <grin> I'm also pulling out data on the Class Reunions and need to get that posted to our school pages. I'm still working on cleaning up all these floppies that I have downloaded alot of information on that I took off the computer to make room for other stuff. I've cleaned up over 200 floppies so far. One of my goals for the new year was to do some more interviews....haven't got to that yet. Why can't these people stay up all night? Sure would make it more convenient for me <grin>. Commercial....Has anyone tried these new Listerine PocketPaks? They are great for a sore throat! They're pretty neat. You just put one of these little paper thingy's on your tongue and it disappears. Think they'll pay me for this? Arleen Aguirre just sent me a photo, a beautiful wedding picture, that she can't identify. I'm going to post it and see if anyone out there can identify it for us. Give me a day or two to get to that. And still no one has claimed the box of memorabilia and photos that Wynelle donated over a year ago so I'm going to scan all of those too, and get them posted. I think we need an orphan photo page so start going through Grandma's boxes for any photos you can't identify and we'll see if we can solve some mysteries. Which reminds me...I still have photos to post to the cemeteries <sigh>. Geez, I'm tired already......<very big grin>. Can anyone please come over and help? (please) I'll share my chocolate chip cookies with you. Guess that's all for today's report. Let me hear from you! Karen Mitchell 2001 has been declared "The Year of "Love". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected]

Bravo Shalane! A great job! Very informative and with the attached photos it brought back alot of memories of the Huerfano area. Thanks for the good work, JanGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Regarding the question that Lori asks about Holy Trinity Parish (Trinidad, CO) records for 1912-1950, to my knowledge those records are not published and available for purchase as are some of the very early baptismal and marriage records (1868-1884). I have a copy of both of these early Holy Trinity records that I purchased from the National Society of Hispanic Genealogy (NSHG) in Denver. I think that the books were initially published by the Genealogy Society of Hispanic America (GSHA). The records are available from the Parish Office. I think that there is a minimal fee for the admin person to copy each record for you. You can call the Holy Trinity Parish office at 719-846-3369 and/or write them at 235 N. Convent St., Trinidad, CO 81082. I was born and raised in Trinidad and regularly visit family there. The parish office staff is very helpful in providing records you need. Be sure you give them all the information they would need to locate the record for you. There are also some types of records available at the Carnegie Public Library in Trinidad. The library has an excellent genealogy resource room in the back of the library. I've often used it. The main librarian there is very knowledgeable. I don't recall her name at this moment. For example, they have the original funeral record books from the several funeral homes that have closed in Trinidad. They also have original coroner record books, a card file of names for which they have obituary information, and numerous volumes of books with information related to Trinidad and to Colorado. The library phone number is 719-846-6841 and the address is 202 N. Animas St., Trinidad, CO 81082. Gloria Cordova Los Alamos, NM [email protected] ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:17:04 -0600 From: "Lori D" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [COHUERFA] Holy Trinity Records I would like to talk to anyone who has access to Holy Trinity Records from 1919 until the 1950's. Isn't there a book for sale transcribed from Holy Trinity records. The majority of my mothers family was either Married, baptized or died that was recorded in Holy Trinity records. At the present time I have about 20 names some of them I have date of births others I don't but seem to be born a year from each other. thank ya'all Lori Chavez-Dye

Ye Gods....where to start...? First, you're scanning more than one at a time, right? Are you scanning ones that are printed on that heat-sensitive paper that the Walsenburg library uses in their microfilm reader? That could be a problem, if your scanner generates heat as it scans as well as light. Be careful, or you'll end up with black originals, even with a copier, if it does the same thing. Any that are on that kind of paper you might want to transfer to plain paper anyway, just to be safe. Over time, it'll turn black. The best thing to do is preview EVERY scan. I know it slows down the process, but you'll lose less time in the long run. Also, lay out several of your original sheets on a table first, and group them by lightness/darkness of the originals. If you "squinty" your eyes almost closed, you'll be able to see the brightness differences better. Also, use greyscale settings on your scanner, not black and white. Use color ones only if you have no luck with the greyscale, since it'll make the file a lot bigger. Hope this helps. Hugs, Nancy On 1/23/02 4:17, Karen Mitchell at [email protected] supposedly wrote: > I have been cutting these obits out of the newspapers and I have tried for > two days to scan them and it's just not working. Some of them come out real > good, others come out completely black. Nancy do you have any suggestions? > > If all else fails, I can take them into Pueblo and make copies of them and > mail them out to all of you so you can type them up. > > What do you think? > > Karen Mitchell > 2001 has been declared "The Year of "Love". Pass it on. > [email protected] > US GenWeb Project County Coordinator > Huerfano County Coordinator > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm > Huerfano County List Owner > [email protected] > Taos County Coordinator > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm > Taos County List Owner > [email protected] > >

WHAT IS A GENEALOGIST? A full-time detective A thorough historian An inveterate snoop A confirmed diplomat A keen observer A hardened sceptic An apt biographer A qualified linguist A part-time lawyer A studious sociologist An accurate reporter An hieroglyphics expert, AND . . . A complete nut! Karen Mitchell 2001 has been declared "The Year of "Love". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected]

Good morning members!!! Great news! Our very first town has gone online. Shalane has posted her page on Oakview. She's not done with it yet, she wants to post the census, and stories of the people there, but she's got it started and you can view it at: http://home.earthlink.net/~sjs8138/oakview.htm CONGRATULATIONS Shalane, it's looking real good! Karen Mitchell 2001 has been declared "The Year of "Love". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected]

I would like to talk to anyone who has access to Holy Trinity Records from 1919 until the 1950's. Isn't there a book for sale transcribed from Holy Trinity records. The majority of my mothers family was either Married, baptized or died that was recorded in Holy Trinity records. At the present time I have about 20 names some of them I have date of births others I don't but seem to be born a year from each other. thank ya'all Lori Chavez-Dye Chavez-Lucero-Gauna

Hi Taylor, I'm game for the census also, let me know what to do. Judi

MUCH better idea! & sounds a lot easier! i will get to this today. taylor At 04:38 PM 1/22/02 -0700, Karen Mitchell wrote: >Taylor, I think the easiest way for you to handle this is to turn it in to >Archives and have them post it and give you the URL for it. Tell them NOT to >go public with it until all the proofing is done.Then you can assign page >numbers and the volunteers can go online and proof it. After all the >proofing is done and corrections made, you can let Archives know, and they >can open it up to the public. It would save you from having to email back >and forth. >The volunteers could look at your transcription, compare it to the images, >then send you an email with the corrections. You could make all the >corrections then send the corrected copy to Archives. >Just a suggestion, but I think it would save you alot of work in keeping >track of all the emails. >Any other suggestions group? >Karen >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Taylor Hayes" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 4:16 PM >Subject: [COHUERFA] excell question & 1880 census > > >hi gang, > >in order for me to send out the census pages to be corrected....i need to >be able to email just a page @ a time.... > >one of you brilliant people emailed me a "how to" copy & email just a >portion of the census....i have lost it & i'm hoping someone can give it to >me again! i've only used excel a tiny bit @ work & just filled in the >census off of karen's template so i'm a big novice when it comes to the >program. > >as far as the census goes, would everyone who's willing to proofread email >me & let me know how many pages you'd like to start w/. i'll put together >an email explaining what i've attemped, how to proof it & then i'll send >the pages. i'm organizing a list of page numbers so i can asign them & >keep proper track! > >i think it's pretty simple & not to time consuming....but perhaps tammy or >anyone else who's proofed a census can chime in w/their suggestions! > >then you'll send back your corrections to me & i'll take them home, >doubleck & put them in. > >there are 87 pages left to proofread (tammy did 8 awhile back! thank you >tammy!) so hopefully it's not too many for everyone to tackle. i think it >goes fairly quickly as you're just ckng the lines on the census online to >what i've transcribed. it should all be able to be done @ your computer. > >once they're proofread then we'll get it online for everyone! > >thanks so much for everyone's help. i really appreciate it. it took me >way to long to finish but it really was a great way to give something back >to huerfano county, considering how many people have done so much work in >the past, that i have benefited from!!!! > >send me an email if you're interested & as soon as i can figure out how to >send the pages off we'll go! > >thanks all, > >taylor

I have been cutting these obits out of the newspapers and I have tried for two days to scan them and it's just not working. Some of them come out real good, others come out completely black. Nancy do you have any suggestions? If all else fails, I can take them into Pueblo and make copies of them and mail them out to all of you so you can type them up. What do you think? Karen Mitchell 2001 has been declared "The Year of "Love". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected]

I think your suggestion is the most convenient way. Count me in as a proof reader. -----Original Message----- From: Karen Mitchell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COHUERFA] excell question & 1880 census Taylor, I think the easiest way for you to handle this is to turn it in to Archives and have them post it and give you the URL for it. Tell them NOT to go public with it until all the proofing is done.Then you can assign page numbers and the volunteers can go online and proof it. After all the proofing is done and corrections made, you can let Archives know, and they can open it up to the public. It would save you from having to email back and forth. The volunteers could look at your transcription, compare it to the images, then send you an email with the corrections. You could make all the corrections then send the corrected copy to Archives. Just a suggestion, but I think it would save you alot of work in keeping track of all the emails. Any other suggestions group? Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Taylor Hayes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: [COHUERFA] excell question & 1880 census hi gang, in order for me to send out the census pages to be corrected....i need to be able to email just a page @ a time.... one of you brilliant people emailed me a "how to" copy & email just a portion of the census....i have lost it & i'm hoping someone can give it to me again! i've only used excel a tiny bit @ work & just filled in the census off of karen's template so i'm a big novice when it comes to the program. as far as the census goes, would everyone who's willing to proofread email me & let me know how many pages you'd like to start w/. i'll put together an email explaining what i've attemped, how to proof it & then i'll send the pages. i'm organizing a list of page numbers so i can asign them & keep proper track! i think it's pretty simple & not to time consuming....but perhaps tammy or anyone else who's proofed a census can chime in w/their suggestions! then you'll send back your corrections to me & i'll take them home, doubleck & put them in. there are 87 pages left to proofread (tammy did 8 awhile back! thank you tammy!) so hopefully it's not too many for everyone to tackle. i think it goes fairly quickly as you're just ckng the lines on the census online to what i've transcribed. it should all be able to be done @ your computer. once they're proofread then we'll get it online for everyone! thanks so much for everyone's help. i really appreciate it. it took me way to long to finish but it really was a great way to give something back to huerfano county, considering how many people have done so much work in the past, that i have benefited from!!!! send me an email if you're interested & as soon as i can figure out how to send the pages off we'll go! thanks all, taylor

Is this the greatest list, or what?!! Count me in for census or obits or both! I'm working one handed pretty good these days, just tell me what to do! By the way you know how to work "sticky fingers"? Makes capitalizing easy. Bobbi From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: COHUERFA-D Digest V02 #18 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:00:26 -0700 << message2.txt >> << message4.txt >> << message6.txt >> << message8.txt >> << message10.txt >> << message12.txt >> << message14.txt >> << message16.txt >> << message18.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Taylor, I think the easiest way for you to handle this is to turn it in to Archives and have them post it and give you the URL for it. Tell them NOT to go public with it until all the proofing is done.Then you can assign page numbers and the volunteers can go online and proof it. After all the proofing is done and corrections made, you can let Archives know, and they can open it up to the public. It would save you from having to email back and forth. The volunteers could look at your transcription, compare it to the images, then send you an email with the corrections. You could make all the corrections then send the corrected copy to Archives. Just a suggestion, but I think it would save you alot of work in keeping track of all the emails. Any other suggestions group? Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Taylor Hayes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: [COHUERFA] excell question & 1880 census hi gang, in order for me to send out the census pages to be corrected....i need to be able to email just a page @ a time.... one of you brilliant people emailed me a "how to" copy & email just a portion of the census....i have lost it & i'm hoping someone can give it to me again! i've only used excel a tiny bit @ work & just filled in the census off of karen's template so i'm a big novice when it comes to the program. as far as the census goes, would everyone who's willing to proofread email me & let me know how many pages you'd like to start w/. i'll put together an email explaining what i've attemped, how to proof it & then i'll send the pages. i'm organizing a list of page numbers so i can asign them & keep proper track! i think it's pretty simple & not to time consuming....but perhaps tammy or anyone else who's proofed a census can chime in w/their suggestions! then you'll send back your corrections to me & i'll take them home, doubleck & put them in. there are 87 pages left to proofread (tammy did 8 awhile back! thank you tammy!) so hopefully it's not too many for everyone to tackle. i think it goes fairly quickly as you're just ckng the lines on the census online to what i've transcribed. it should all be able to be done @ your computer. once they're proofread then we'll get it online for everyone! thanks so much for everyone's help. i really appreciate it. it took me way to long to finish but it really was a great way to give something back to huerfano county, considering how many people have done so much work in the past, that i have benefited from!!!! send me an email if you're interested & as soon as i can figure out how to send the pages off we'll go! thanks all, taylor

hi gang, in order for me to send out the census pages to be corrected....i need to be able to email just a page @ a time.... one of you brilliant people emailed me a "how to" copy & email just a portion of the census....i have lost it & i'm hoping someone can give it to me again! i've only used excel a tiny bit @ work & just filled in the census off of karen's template so i'm a big novice when it comes to the program. as far as the census goes, would everyone who's willing to proofread email me & let me know how many pages you'd like to start w/. i'll put together an email explaining what i've attemped, how to proof it & then i'll send the pages. i'm organizing a list of page numbers so i can asign them & keep proper track! i think it's pretty simple & not to time consuming....but perhaps tammy or anyone else who's proofed a census can chime in w/their suggestions! then you'll send back your corrections to me & i'll take them home, doubleck & put them in. there are 87 pages left to proofread (tammy did 8 awhile back! thank you tammy!) so hopefully it's not too many for everyone to tackle. i think it goes fairly quickly as you're just ckng the lines on the census online to what i've transcribed. it should all be able to be done @ your computer. once they're proofread then we'll get it online for everyone! thanks so much for everyone's help. i really appreciate it. it took me way to long to finish but it really was a great way to give something back to huerfano county, considering how many people have done so much work in the past, that i have benefited from!!!! send me an email if you're interested & as soon as i can figure out how to send the pages off we'll go! thanks all, taylor

Thanks bunches Taylor! I'm currently transcribing the 1920 census (for Oakview precinct only) for the website so I know the pain in the neck it can be. I volunteered for 3 websites and a set of obits and I'm trying to rewrite a book on my great-great grandmother (I got a call last week from someone who wanted me to publish it!) and I guess I'll never get that paper written for that college course I took. (At least I got everything read.) I'll volunteer one page proofing for now and see how it goes. Shalane >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Taylor Hayes" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:23 AM >Subject: 1880 CENSUS!!!! > > >i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm >done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, >i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm >done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, >i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm >done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, >i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm >done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, >i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm >done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, >i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm >done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, >i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm >done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, >i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, i'm done, I'M >DONE!!!! > >i have FINALLY finished transcribing the 1880 census! now i'm ready to >have people correct my pitiful attempts @ mangling the mostly spanish names! > >tammy gonzales was a star & awhile back she was good enough to correct the >1st 8 pages. > >let me know what i should do now to have it doubleck'd. i also need >someone to tell me again how to copy just a page to email. i have lost my >instructions! > >corrections will go much more quickly & we can have this baby done as soon >as i can get people to correct my stuff. > >YIPPEEEEEEE

ANCESTRY QUICK TIP ===================================================================== Regarding the articles about what will happen to the hard work we put into tracing our family trees, I know my work will go on. I have always included my children (ages nine to seventeen) in my trips in search of ancestors. When we go to cemeteries I have them help look for tombstones and take photographs. When we go to libraries that allow children, I give them one or two surnames to look for and money for the copy machines. (Yes, they also know how to do the happy dance!) All of my children have said that they love doing this with me, and that they will keep the tree growing. Beeglelady Karen Mitchell 2001 has been declared "The Year of "Love". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected]

===================================================================== NATIONAL ARCHIVES TO RELEASE 1930 CENSUS ON 1 APRIL 2002 ===================================================================== Washington, DC . . . The National Archives will release the 1930 Federal population census for the first time on 1 April 2002. At that time, the microfilmed copies will be opened for research at the National Archives Building in Washington, DC, at thirteen of the National Archives regional facilities across the nation and through the National Archives rental program. The National Archives Building is located on Pennsylvania Avenue, between 7th and 9th Streets, NW. The Microfilm Reading Room will open for research at 8:45 AM, following an event marking the occasion. The event will be open to the press. For a complete listing of National Archives regional locations and opening times, check the Web site at http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/genindex.html The 1930 census is the 15th Federal census mandated by the U.S. Constitution, which states "The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct . . . " The 1930 census consists of 2,667 rolls of population schedules and 1,587 rolls of Soundex indexes for twelve southern states, totaling 4,254 rolls. Even though the statistical summaries collected by enumerators are made public shortly after the census is taken, information on individuals and families is restricted by law for privacy reasons for seventy-two years. [92 Stat. 915; Public Law 95- 416; October 5, 1978]. A NOTE OF CAUTION TO RESEARCHERS: There are personal name finding aids (Soundex) for twelve southern states only. The National Archives will make available research guides and geographic finding aids to help researchers locate families not listed in the Soundex. Knowing the exact spelling of the last name, the state and county where the family lived in 1930 will greatly assist the search. The National Archives has Federal decennial censuses dates back to the 1790 census, which consisted of twelve rolls of microfilm. The most recent census to be released was the 1920 census that was opened on 1 April 1992. It consists of 2,076 rolls of film. While the original intent of the census was to determine how many representatives each state was entitled to send to the U.S. Congress, it has become a vital tool for Federal agencies in determining allocation of Federal funds and resources. The census has also become a key research tool for sociologists, demographers, historians, political scientists and genealogists. The 1930 census provides a wealth of socio-economic information such as the following: names of all persons living in each home; relationship of each person to the head of household; whether the home is owned or rented; value of the home; if the family owns a radio; if they own a farm; whether they attended school or college; if they can read or write; place of birth; citizenship status; and occupation. For more information on the 1930 census, see http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/1930cen.html Karen Mitchell 2001 has been declared "The Year of "Love". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected]

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [COHUERFA] Question Where do we go to proof the 1880 Census? If I can help, I can do it. I don't know how many volunteers you had to work on the obits, but I think we have enough to do both. I can do two things at once, sheesh, I do ten things here and at work all day everyday. A few projects at once won't hurt me. Zale Ü

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [COHUERFA] Thank you A great big thanks should go to our fearless leader, Karen.

Congratulations Taylor on completing a monumental task! Your efforts are greatly appreciated, and people will thank you for many years to come. Karen: Since I am not qualified to proofread Hispanic names, I'll be happy to double up on typing the obits thereby freeing someone else for proofreading. Louise