BINGO!!! THANK YOU Wynelle! Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 9:48 PM Subject: [COHUERFA] ORPHAN PHOTO Dear List: Betty Jo Schmidt Cordova, was raised in Gardner. I had her look at the photo and she immediately recognized the bride and groom. They are Della Martinez and Frank Velarde. She didn't hesitate. She knows these people and is good friends with Frank's brother Tony who lives in Walsenburg and is a retired State Patrol.. Frank and Della still live in the Gardner area. She didn't recognize the younger girls and boys, but they are probable brothers and sisters or best friends of the bride and groom. Wynnelle

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:29 PM Subject: HISTORIC DATE-AND-TIME-COMING! HISTORIC DATE-AND-TIME-COMING! Believe it or not but 8.02 PM on February 20, 2002, will be a historic moment in time. It will not be marked by the chiming of any clocks or the ringing of bells, but at that precise time, on that specific date, something will happen which has not occurred for 1,001 years and will never happen again. As the clock ticks over from 8.01 PM on Wednesday, February 20, time will, for sixty seconds only, read in perfect symmetry 2002, 2002, 2002, or to be more precise - 20:02, 20/02, 2002. This historic event will never have the same poignancy as the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month which marks Armistice Day, but it is an event which has only ever happened once before, and is something which will never be repeated. The last occasion that time read in such a symmetrical pattern was long before the days of the digital watch and the 24-hour clock - at 10.01 am on January 10, 1001. And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is something that will never happen again.

Hi Karen, Saw the discussion of the wedding picture. Since I just received a copy of one from the 1905, I'm curious. Can you share? Linda

Thank you. As always, ask a question on this site and someone steps forward. Great stuff. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 9:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [COHUERFA] Cheyenne and Arapaho Reserve http://digital.library.okstate.edu/kappler/Vol1/HTML_files/COL0832.html http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/today/aug01.html http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/ntreaty/char65.htm

http://home-1.worldonline.nl/~8466rs/coloradohistory.html

http://digital.library.okstate.edu/kappler/Vol1/HTML_files/COL0832.html http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/today/aug01.html http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/ntreaty/char65.htm

In a message dated 02/15/2002 3:37:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Prior to 1861 most of the records will be found in New Mexico records. > Hope this helps! > > do you recall what county that would be in NM at that time? pre-1861 churches? Thanks! K

I will show this to my family who is still living and see if they recognize anyone. Both women have very strong family resemblances, and the gentleman could pass for my grandfather's sibling judging from his younger pictures. . . I'll let you know! Kathy

I must have accidentally deleted this email - I keep looking for it . . . can I see it on the website? I have a whole Martinez lineage, would be great to see if this is part of them :) Kathy

HI Dave and all, For those of you that don't know: Huerfano County was one of the original 17 counties in what we know of as the State of Colorado. Huerfano was formed in 1861 and encompasses all of present day Huerfano County, Las Animas, Baca, Bent, Otero, Prowers, Crowley, the west half of Kiowa, and the southern part of Pueblo counties. In 1865 the current boundary of Pueblo was established. In 1866 Las Animas was taken from Huerfano. In 1874 Bent was taken from Las Animas. In 1889 Otero and Prowers were taken from Bent. In 1889 Baca was taken from Las Animas. In 1889 Kiowa was taken from Cheyenne and Bent. In 1911 Crowley was taken from Bent and Otero. This will give you some idea of where your relatives were at different time frames. All of the records from 1861 (formation of Huerfano) to 1866 (formation of Las Animas) will be found in Huerfano. Prior to 1861 most of the records will be found in New Mexico records. Hope this helps! I'm sorry Dave but you are not allowed to ask me questions that I can't answer <very big grin>. As I understand it, which may be only MY understanding, the Indian Reserve was well into place prior to Colorado Territory being recognized, when the eastern part was still considered a part of Kansas. I would have to do more research on it to give you a correct answer on that though. Better yet, who wants to volunteer to try to find some data on that Indian Reserve? Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Silva" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 11:35 AM Subject: RE: [COHUERFA] 1866 map Exactly when was Las Animas incorporated at as a County? I looked at the county site to find this info but as usual the well is dry. It will be nice to have some info about Las Animas on the site. In wanderings across the vast web I have ran in to folks looking for info on ancestors from Las Animas and I have pointed them to Huerfano because iit is the only place I know of that has Las Animas info. What Happened to the reserve? When did it happen? -----Original Message----- From: Karen Mitchell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 7:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [COHUERFA] 1866 map I just loaded an 1866 map of Colorado at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/co_1866.jpg This will give you an idea of how big Huerfano County was at the time. It also explains why I am intent on adding other County data to our pages, especially Las Animas. That whole area was Huerfano at one time. Please notice right above Huerfano was the Indian Reserve for the Cheyenne's and Arapahos. Enjoy! Karen Mitchell 2001 has been declared "The Year of "Love". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected]

----- Original Message ----- From: OCORDOVA To: Karen Mitchell(Genealogy) Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: Orphan Photo Karen I saw the orphan wedding photo and I have the following vague recollections: The best man is a Martinez - I cannot think of his first name. The maid of honor is his wife but I cannot think of her name either. I knew of an Abe Martinez who I believe was a nephew to this man - Abe became the owner of a construction company in Colorado Springs in the 1960s. I cannot think of Abe's father's name either. The Martinez owned some ranch land between Walsenburg and Gardner. I know these Martinez' were part of a clan that included the Valardes and Hurtados (through marriage). Tony Valarde was sheriff in the 50s & 60's. I do not know who the bride and groom are either - the groom has a resemblance to the Valardes but doesn't mean much. Like I said, these are vague recollections, but I hope they help finding a home for the picture. Onesimo

Exactly when was Las Animas incorporated at as a County? I looked at the county site to find this info but as usual the well is dry. It will be nice to have some info about Las Animas on the site. In wanderings across the vast web I have ran in to folks looking for info on ancestors from Las Animas and I have pointed them to Huerfano because iit is the only place I know of that has Las Animas info. What Happened to the reserve? When did it happen? -----Original Message----- From: Karen Mitchell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 7:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [COHUERFA] 1866 map I just loaded an 1866 map of Colorado at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/co_1866.jpg This will give you an idea of how big Huerfano County was at the time. It also explains why I am intent on adding other County data to our pages, especially Las Animas. That whole area was Huerfano at one time. Please notice right above Huerfano was the Indian Reserve for the Cheyenne's and Arapahos. Enjoy! Karen Mitchell 2001 has been declared "The Year of "Love". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected]

Boy was I tired last night. I didn't mean to send the question about the photo program to the Huerfano List, it was supposed to go to another list. But see, once again my own researchers jump in and try to help out. Thanks everybody! Karen

In a message dated 02/14/2002 4:08:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Okay, for all of you that work with photos...please tell me the most user > friendly program I can use to do photos. I have Photo Deluxe 2. But when I > put a photo in there and resize it and work with it, it saves it as a .pdd > file instead of a jpg file, and there is no option to convert it or save it > as a jpg. > I am going to learn to work with these photos if it kills me! > I want a program that I can use to resize my digital camera photos as well > as scanned photos and put the copyright on the photo. > Any suggestions? > > I love MGI Photo Suite SE . . . I have that and Photo Suite III, and I like the older version better. It will save to several different formats. . . VERY easy to use and understand

Karen - Microsoft Picture It! is a wonderful program to use and very easy. MGI Photo Suite is another good one. Sandy

I just loaded an 1866 map of Colorado at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/co_1866.jpg This will give you an idea of how big Huerfano County was at the time. It also explains why I am intent on adding other County data to our pages, especially Las Animas. That whole area was Huerfano at one time. Please notice right above Huerfano was the Indian Reserve for the Cheyenne's and Arapahos. Enjoy! Karen Mitchell 2001 has been declared "The Year of "Love". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected]

The Huerfano County Orphan Photos Page is online, but only has one photo on it, the one Arleen contributed. Do you know who this couple is? Anyone else have photos they can't identify? http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/orphan.html Karen Mitchell 2001 has been declared "The Year of "Love". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected]

In a message dated 02/14/2002 10:35:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I just > wish you guys were on my list for El Paso County! Oh, well. Thanks again!! > Bobbi > > > I wish they were on several of my lists :( But it's great that you are all on THIS one!! :)!!!! K

Okay, for all of you that work with photos...please tell me the most user friendly program I can use to do photos. I have Photo Deluxe 2. But when I put a photo in there and resize it and work with it, it saves it as a .pdd file instead of a jpg file, and there is no option to convert it or save it as a jpg. I am going to learn to work with these photos if it kills me! I want a program that I can use to resize my digital camera photos as well as scanned photos and put the copyright on the photo. Any suggestions? Karen Mitchell 2001 has been declared "The Year of "Love". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected]

Hey folks take a look at the message I just received from Tammy!!! You go girl! I wrote back and told her I was gonna kiss her whole face LOL!! I just love the volunteers on this List, everybody just jumps up and says "Hey, I can do that!" All of you are just wonderful! Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: Tammy Gonzales To: Karen Mitchell Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: baptisms Hi Karen, Is anyone extracting the St. Mary's baptisms yet? I have the film with baptisms from November 1874 to August 1876. It looks like "most" of them have birth date, parents names and padrinos (?) included. So...do you want me to extract these, and what are padrinos and what info do you want included on the sheet? Think that about covers it :) Tammy