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  1. 05/06/2002 07:21:48
    1. [COHUERFA] Kansas Genealogy Main State page
    2. http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/

    05/04/2002 12:32:58
    1. [COHUERFA] 1860 New Mexico Territory, Mora County Precincts
    2. Hello: Found the following; hope it helps make your search a little faster. 1860 New Mexico Territory, Mora County Census. Images 1-10 Precinct of La Rayada Images 11-30 Precinct of Gotondimas [sic] Images 31-50 Precinct of Guadalupita Images 51-71 Precinct of La Cebolla Images 72-86 Precinct of La Cueva Images 87-112 Precinct of San Antonio Images 113-140 Precinct of Santa Gertrudes Image 140 Precinct of San Antonio (3 families)

    05/03/2002 05:28:53
    1. Re: [COHUERFA] 1861 Territorial Election
    2. Hi Karen: Thank you for turning me in the right direction. I've been looking in the New Mexico Territory Census this afternoon, but came up empty on William Becker/Baker. I'll take a look at the Kansas Census next. Appreciate your help. Regards, Louise

    05/03/2002 05:27:30
    1. Re: [COHUERFA] 1861 Territorial Election
    2. Karen Mitchell
    3. Hi Louise and all, In 1860 the area that is now Huerfano County would have been situated in Mora, County, NM. But your g-grandfather voted in the 1861 election at the "Pueblo on the Arkansas", which was what is now Pueblo, Colorado. I believe that would have been enumerated in the Kansas census . I can't recall right now the name of the County, but if you go to the Kansas GenWeb site they probably have an 1860 map. It will be the County in the lower left hand corner. Explore this and please let the rest of the researchers know. I'm glad you found a new clue for your ancestors! Karen

    05/03/2002 02:22:19
    1. Re: [COHUERFA] A little Friday morning humor. This is Hilarious!
    2. Karen Mitchell
    3. <giggle> This is so funny! I'm forwarding it <LOL> Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Weber, Cecelia" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: RE: [COHUERFA] A little Friday morning humor. This is Hilarious! THE "FORWARDER'S" 12 STEP PROGRAM - EVERYONE SAY IT WITH ME 1) I will NOT get bad luck, lose my friends, or lose my mailing lists if > I DON'T forward an email! 2) I will NOT hear any music or see a taco dog, if I do forward an e-mail. 3) Bill Gates is NOT going to send me money, Victoria Secret doesn't know anything about a gift certificate they're supposed to send me. 4) Ford will NOT give me a 50% discount even if I forward my e-mail to more than 50 people! 5) I will NEVER receive gift certificates, coupons, or freebies from Coca Cola, Cracker Barrel, Old Navy, or anyone else if I send an e-mail to 10 people. 6) I will NEVER see a pop-up window if I forward an e-mail ... NEVER --NEVER !! 7) There is NO SUCH THING as an e-mail tracking program, and I am not STUPID enough to think that someone will send me $100 for forwarding an e-mail to 10 or more people! 8) There is NO kid with cancer through the Make-a-Wish program in England collecting anything! He did when he was 7 years old. He is now cancer free and 35 years old and DOESN'T WANT ANY MORE POST CARDS, or GET-WELL CARDS. 9) The government does not have a bill in Congress called 901B (or whatever they named it this week) that, if passed, will enable them to charge us 5 cents for every e-mail we send. 10) There will be NO cool dancing, singing, waving, colorful flowers, characters, or program that I will receive immediately after I forward an e-mail. NONE, ZIP, ZERO, NADA!! 11) The American Red Cross will NOT donate 50 cents to certain individual dying of some never-heard-of disease for every e-mail address I send this to. The American Red Cross RECEIVES donations. 12) And finally, I WILL NOT let others guilt me into sending things by telling me I am not their friend or that I don't believe in G_d. If G_d wants to send me a message, I believe the bushes in my yard will burn before He picks up a PC to pass it on! Now, repeat this to yourself until you have it memorized, and send it along to at least 5 of your friends before the next full moon or you will surely be constipated for the next three months and all of your hair will fall out! Just Kidding...

    05/03/2002 02:06:03
    1. Re: [COHUERFA] census updates
    2. Karen Mitchell
    3. YIPPEE!!! The rest of us can hardly wait to see the results!! THANK YOU Taylor and everyone that has so graciously donated their time on this project! Just think of all the people you are going to help by having this online. You people are GREAT! Hugs to all, Karen

    05/03/2002 02:03:21
    1. [COHUERFA] 1861 Territorial Election
    2. Hello All: I have made a "new discovery" in our Huerfano County database. My great-grandfather William Becker/Baker voted in the 1861 Territorial Election, District 8 & 9, Precinct 4, Pueblo of the Arkansas River. Was this New Mexico Territory in 1860? If so, which county? > Huerfano County was already settled when the Pikes Peakers headed west, and > it was one of the most stable areas when the territorial government made it > one of the seventeen original counties in 1861 using the St. Vrain-Vigil > land grant as the boundaries--from the New Mexico line to the Arkansas > River, from the Sangre de Cristo mountains to the Kansas state line. The first official business of the new county was conducted at the Autobees ranch. > Charles Autobees was one of the first county commissioners. When the current > Huerfano County boundaries were established in 1867, Badito, a trading > post/stage stop that opened about 1847, was designated county seat-- > because, it is said, the county clerk, appointed by the territorial > government, lived there. Finally, after much squabbling and several > elections, Walsenburg became county seat in 1872. > > Appreciate any help to find this area in 1850 and 1860, so I can check the census for those time periods. Regards, Louise

    05/03/2002 11:42:10
    1. RE: [COHUERFA] A little Friday morning humor. This is Hilarious!
    2. Weber, Cecelia
    3. THE "FORWARDER'S" 12 STEP PROGRAM - EVERYONE SAY IT WITH ME 1) I will NOT get bad luck, lose my friends, or lose my mailing lists if > I DON'T forward an email! 2) I will NOT hear any music or see a taco dog, if I do forward an e-mail. 3) Bill Gates is NOT going to send me money, Victoria Secret doesn't know anything about a gift certificate they're supposed to send me. 4) Ford will NOT give me a 50% discount even if I forward my e-mail to more than 50 people! 5) I will NEVER receive gift certificates, coupons, or freebies from Coca Cola, Cracker Barrel, Old Navy, or anyone else if I send an e-mail to 10 people. 6) I will NEVER see a pop-up window if I forward an e-mail ... NEVER --NEVER !! 7) There is NO SUCH THING as an e-mail tracking program, and I am not STUPID enough to think that someone will send me $100 for forwarding an e-mail to 10 or more people! 8) There is NO kid with cancer through the Make-a-Wish program in England collecting anything! He did when he was 7 years old. He is now cancer free and 35 years old and DOESN'T WANT ANY MORE POST CARDS, or GET-WELL CARDS. 9) The government does not have a bill in Congress called 901B (or whatever they named it this week) that, if passed, will enable them to charge us 5 cents for every e-mail we send. 10) There will be NO cool dancing, singing, waving, colorful flowers, characters, or program that I will receive immediately after I forward an e-mail. NONE, ZIP, ZERO, NADA!! 11) The American Red Cross will NOT donate 50 cents to certain individual dying of some never-heard-of disease for every e-mail address I send this to. The American Red Cross RECEIVES donations. 12) And finally, I WILL NOT let others guilt me into sending things by telling me I am not their friend or that I don't believe in G_d. If G_d wants to send me a message, I believe the bushes in my yard will burn before He picks up a PC to pass it on! Now, repeat this to yourself until you have it memorized, and send it along to at least 5 of your friends before the next full moon or you will surely be constipated for the next three months and all of your hair will fall out! Just Kidding...

    05/03/2002 05:54:33
    1. [COHUERFA] census updates
    2. Taylor Hayes
    3. hey gang, i have almost all of the pages back as of today! i'm just missing a few and my thanks go out to all who volunteered their time! i will finish all the pages i have back this wkend & then it's just a matter of time between getting the last pages in & into the computer. i'm hoping i can send the done file to karen by next friday! yippee!!!! if you have pages you're working on would you email me & give me an idea of when to expect them.... THANK YOU to everyone on the list, the volunteers who doubleck'd the work but also to all of you who've just been terrific w/support! taylor

    05/03/2002 03:28:49
    1. [COHUERFA] Rootsweb Volunteers
    2. Karen Mitchell
    3. FOCUS ON ROOTSWEB'S VOLUNTEERS. With the conclusion of April, the RootsWeb.com Volunteer Appreciation Month has come to an end. We would like to thank all of you who showed your appreciation to our many volunteers. We realize that the individuals who were mentioned by name are only a fraction of those who continue to donate their time and talents to RootsWeb. So appreciating our volunteers has not come to end. Each month we plan to spotlight another volunteer who has given so much to the genealogy community. View the Volunteer Appreciation Page to see the weekly and monthly Volunteer Spotlights. http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/spotlight/ Karen Mitchell 2002 has been declared "The Year of "Unity". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected] Pueblo County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~copueblo/

    05/02/2002 01:01:47
    1. [COHUERFA] Rita's Colorado Genealogy Clues
    2. http://coloradoclues.com/index.htm <A HREF="http://coloradoclues.com/index.htm">Ritas_Colorado_Genealogy_Clues</A>

    05/02/2002 09:55:41
    1. [COHUERFA] Learning the Spanish System of Surnames
    2. CINCO DE MAYO SPECIAL The 5th of May is celebrated in the United States among its Mexican- American population, especially in California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas. For history and more information about Cinco de Mayo see: http://www.nacnet.org/assunta/spa5may.htm (in Spanish and English) http://www.vivacincodemayo.org/history.htm RootsWeb hosts the GEN-HISPANIC Mailing List, which is gatewayed with the soc.genealogy.hispanic newsgroup for the discussion of Hispanic genealogy. Subscribe (join) this mailing list, search, and browse its archives at: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ESP/GEN-HISPANIC.html The Hispanic Message Board is here: [Note: 2-line URL]: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p= topics.ethnic.hispanic Or at this page: http://boards.rootsweb.com/ in the "Find a Message Board" window type in word HISPANIC. Then click on the GO! button. * * * Learning the Spanish System of Surnames By José Casas y Sánchez [email protected] Chapala, Mexico For time immemorial in Spain the Catholic church and the civil Government (since the middle of the 19th century), have been using the same system for registering and ordering the last names of a given individual, its use extending to Latin America, since the Colonial Days. The high number of last names a person may use, four, eight or more, does not make that person an aristocrat or more elegant or a member of the nobility, it only shows that the ancestors are known to that family or that individual in particular -- it is basic genealogy. In the titled families these records are very carefully kept and most of the nobility knows by heart the cadency of their "illustrious" last names. As most of us are Catholic, we have been baptized in our local parishes and also have been registered in the Civil Registry offices of our towns or cities, and both, the baptism certificate and the civil birth certificate, clearly states the two last names of father and mother and sometimes also the two last names of the four grandparents, that is, if the priest of that particular parish or the civil servant of the registry office was more or less educated and did not make a mistake during the registry of the names. In the larger parishes of the cities, like cathedrals or basilicas, the errors were much less frequent than in the small town parishes, so if you are lucky, in your baptism certificate you have your first eight last names. You only need to get the baptism or civil certificate of your four grandparents, and with much luck, Bingo! You have your 16 last names. The system is simplicity in itself, let's see it through a living example, this way it will be easier to understand: I have 16 last names, which are: Casas-Sánchez-Castaños-Loaeza-Domenech-Díaz-Echeverría-Escobedo-Tarrago- Gil-Morera-Barreiro-Bazosabal-Caldelas-Yspizua-Ortiz The order or cadency of the last names goes by relationship: 1-Father ........................... Casas 2-Mother ........................... Sánchez 3-Paternal Grandmother ............. Castaños 4-Maternal Grandmother ............. Loaeza 5-Paternal Maternal Grandmother .... Domenech 6-Maternal Maternal Grandmother .... Díaz And so on. How did I get my 16 last names? Examining the baptism and the civil certificates of each and everyone of my ancestors, that is, beginning with father, then mother and so on, I wrote down all of their last names, then to follow the correct order or cadency of the mentioned last names one has to intercalate them, male-father, female-mother, male- grandfather, female-grandmother, etc. The certificates showed the following: J. Casas father's eight last names: Casas-Castaños-Domenech-Echeverría-Tarrago-Bazosabal-Morera-Yspizua. J. Casas mother's eight last names: Sánchez-Loaeza-Díaz-Escobedo-Gil-Caldelas-Barreiro-Ortiz This system is logical, practical, simple and effective, it is less hard to make mistakes when investigating the family history, doing genealogical research and quartering the blazons in family heraldry. One of the most important aspects in the Spanish system for last names is that the women never, ever lose their last names. They have exactly the same last names of their brothers. When the woman marries she only adds the last name or names of her husband, for example: My wife's name is Ana East Sans, when she married me, she became: Ana East Sans de Casas, (of) for practical reasons she only uses Ana East de Casas, if she was a widow, (not yet) she would be: Ana East viuda de Casas, (widow of) if she was divorced (not yet) she would return to use her original name Ana East Sans. This system allows the woman to keep forever her last names, I think is very fair and logical, it is hard for us to understand the American or British system that dictates that the woman loses her last name completely and definitely when she marries, even if she becomes a widow. And all of this in a modern liberal women's rights society! Another important point is that by law, we have to use our first two last names always when legal documentation is involved or when signing legal affairs or writing bank checks of a certain amount above a limit, etc. etc. The custom of always of using our two first last names is quite practical. This way we can differentiate as to our father or son when the first or Christian name is the same, this way we do not use the "Jr." Some people, (man or woman) use their second Christian name, this is quite common, in official documents it is obligatory to use it, that is, if one has the names registered in the official birth certificate. You will find in some, not very common cases the letter "y" between the two last names, this is done in order to separate the two last names, (father and mother) and not to confuse a double last name that is composed of two words. In English this is done using a hyphen. One thing to remember and perhaps to learn, is how to address an Hispanic person, by word or in writing, the rule is to always address the person in question by their first last name, never by the second. When in doubt, address the person by using both names. Lots of people, educated ones, but ignorant of our system keep addressing me as Mr. Sanchez, when I am Mr. Casas, or Mr. Casas y Sanchez. But, when I must correct the person that makes this involuntary error, I always try do it in a diplomatic way in order not to hurt feelings.

    05/02/2002 09:34:02
    1. [COHUERFA] Vitals site
    2. Karen, I was able to get to the vitals pages just fine, and they looked good to me! Dennis Tolmich

    04/29/2002 06:41:54
    1. [COHUERFA] Re: COHUERFA-D Digest V02 #71
    2. Shalane
    3. Pages I pulled up were fine - in IE and Netscape Shalane At 05:00 AM 4/29/02 -0600, you wrote: >COHUERFA-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 71 > >Today's Topics: > #1 [COHUERFA] Re: COHUERFA-D Digest V [[email protected]] > #2 RE: [COHUERFA] Page check please! ["BEVERLY HARRIS" > <[email protected]] > #3 RE: [COHUERFA] Page check please! ["Dave Silva" <[email protected]>] > #4 [COHUERFA] Page Check [[email protected]] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from COHUERFA-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:07:00 EDT >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: [COHUERFA] Re: COHUERFA-D Digest V02 #70 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >In a message dated 4/28/2002 5:01:50 AM Central Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/vitals-a.htm > > > >Karen, > >They come up fine for me. > >Janet Kent > >______________________________X-Message: #2 >Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 10:54:50 -0600 >From: "BEVERLY HARRIS" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: [COHUERFA] Page check please! >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Had no problems at all. Checked several and no problems. Bev. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Karen Mitchell <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Date: 4/27/2002 1:13:06 PM > > Subject: [COHUERFA] Page check please! > > > > Hi everyone, > > I just got a report that there is a problem with our Vital Records pages. > > Not all of the pages are coming up correctly. > > > > When I pull them up they are fine. All of the pages should have names, >birth > > and/or death dates. > > > > Can you all go in and see if you can pull up the various letters of the > > alphabet from the main page at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/vitals-a.htm > > > > PLEASE let me know what you see. > > > > Karen Mitchell > > 2002 has been declared "The Year of "Unity". Pass it on. > > [email protected] > > US GenWeb Project County Coordinator > > Huerfano County Coordinator > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm > > Huerfano County List Owner > > [email protected] > > Taos County Coordinator > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm > > Taos County List Owner > > [email protected] > > Pueblo County Coordinator > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~copueblo/ > > > >--- BEVERLY HARRIS >--- [email protected] >--- EarthLink: It's your Internet. > >______________________________X-Message: #3 >Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 21:59:17 -0500 >From: "Dave Silva" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <MABBJBCC[email protected]> >Subject: RE: [COHUERFA] Page check please! >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >no problem accessing vitals, I checked D,S and W. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Karen Mitchell [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 2:13 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [COHUERFA] Page check please! > > >Hi everyone, >I just got a report that there is a problem with our Vital Records pages. >Not all of the pages are coming up correctly. > >When I pull them up they are fine. All of the pages should have names, birth >and/or death dates. > >Can you all go in and see if you can pull up the various letters of the >alphabet from the main page at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/vitals-a.htm > >PLEASE let me know what you see. > >Karen Mitchell >2002 has been declared "The Year of "Unity". Pass it on. >[email protected] >US GenWeb Project County Coordinator >Huerfano County Coordinator >http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm >Huerfano County List Owner >[email protected] >Taos County Coordinator >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm >Taos County List Owner >[email protected] >Pueblo County Coordinator >http://www.rootsweb.com/~copueblo/ > >______________________________X-Message: #4 >Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 02:22:56 EDT >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: [COHUERFA] Page Check >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >No problems with A & M >Toni

    04/29/2002 02:34:43
    1. [COHUERFA] Page Check
    2. No problems with A & M Toni

    04/28/2002 08:22:56
    1. RE: [COHUERFA] Page check please!
    2. Dave Silva
    3. no problem accessing vitals, I checked D,S and W. -----Original Message----- From: Karen Mitchell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 2:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [COHUERFA] Page check please! Hi everyone, I just got a report that there is a problem with our Vital Records pages. Not all of the pages are coming up correctly. When I pull them up they are fine. All of the pages should have names, birth and/or death dates. Can you all go in and see if you can pull up the various letters of the alphabet from the main page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/vitals-a.htm PLEASE let me know what you see. Karen Mitchell 2002 has been declared "The Year of "Unity". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected] Pueblo County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~copueblo/

    04/28/2002 03:59:17
    1. [COHUERFA] Re: COHUERFA-D Digest V02 #70
    2. In a message dated 4/28/2002 5:01:50 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/vitals-a.htm > Karen, They come up fine for me. Janet Kent

    04/28/2002 06:07:00
    1. RE: [COHUERFA] Page check please!
    2. BEVERLY HARRIS
    3. Had no problems at all. Checked several and no problems. Bev. > [Original Message] > From: Karen Mitchell <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 4/27/2002 1:13:06 PM > Subject: [COHUERFA] Page check please! > > Hi everyone, > I just got a report that there is a problem with our Vital Records pages. > Not all of the pages are coming up correctly. > > When I pull them up they are fine. All of the pages should have names, birth > and/or death dates. > > Can you all go in and see if you can pull up the various letters of the > alphabet from the main page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/vitals-a.htm > > PLEASE let me know what you see. > > Karen Mitchell > 2002 has been declared "The Year of "Unity". Pass it on. > [email protected] > US GenWeb Project County Coordinator > Huerfano County Coordinator > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm > Huerfano County List Owner > [email protected] > Taos County Coordinator > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm > Taos County List Owner > [email protected] > Pueblo County Coordinator > http://www.rootsweb.com/~copueblo/ --- BEVERLY HARRIS --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

    04/28/2002 04:54:50
    1. [COHUERFA] Page check please!
    2. Karen Mitchell
    3. Hi everyone, I just got a report that there is a problem with our Vital Records pages. Not all of the pages are coming up correctly. When I pull them up they are fine. All of the pages should have names, birth and/or death dates. Can you all go in and see if you can pull up the various letters of the alphabet from the main page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/vitals-a.htm PLEASE let me know what you see. Karen Mitchell 2002 has been declared "The Year of "Unity". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected] Pueblo County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~copueblo/

    04/27/2002 07:13:06