thanks so much for all of this info shalane! hits it right on the nose for me & i really appreciate it! now if you could just create an "8th" day, dedicated only to genealogy, i'd be a happy camper! ha ha! taylor At 08:50 AM 6/6/02 -0700, Shalane wrote: >For those of your who are doing research on your ancestors who came up >from New Mexico, >a good way of finding out more about your ancestors is to read historical >research on it. Even if your ancestor isn't mentioned, you will gain a >general understanding of their lives. And if your ancestor is mentioned, >you have a bonus. Two good books on Abiquiu and the Rio Chama Valley, and >the "pioneers" (broader area than Abiquiu) are: > >Valley of Shining Stone. Lesley Poling-Kempes. Tucson:University of >Arizona Press. 1997 > >Pobladores: Hispanic Americans of the Ute Frontier. Frances Leon Quintana. >Notre Dame: University of Notre Dame Press. 1991. > >Order them via inter-libaray loan through your local library. > >Also, go to the website of University of New Mexico and search for >interested subjects or keywords, then if you find an interesting book, get >the info off the web site and order it through your local library's >inter-library loan. > > >

For those of your who are doing research on your ancestors who came up from New Mexico, a good way of finding out more about your ancestors is to read historical research on it. Even if your ancestor isn't mentioned, you will gain a general understanding of their lives. And if your ancestor is mentioned, you have a bonus. Two good books on Abiquiu and the Rio Chama Valley, and the "pioneers" (broader area than Abiquiu) are: Valley of Shining Stone. Lesley Poling-Kempes. Tucson:University of Arizona Press. 1997 Pobladores: Hispanic Americans of the Ute Frontier. Frances Leon Quintana. Notre Dame: University of Notre Dame Press. 1991. Order them via inter-libaray loan through your local library. Also, go to the website of University of New Mexico and search for interested subjects or keywords, then if you find an interesting book, get the info off the web site and order it through your local library's inter-library loan.

CITY DIRECTORIES OF THE USA. Printed, microfilmed, and online directories and their repositories, listed by state, locality, and repository with call number if available or link. http://www.uscitydirectories.com/

contributor_name: Sharon Gallagher Shaffer newspaper_name: The Salida Mail newspaper_date: 1919 town_of_publication: Salida county_of_publication: Chaffee state_of_publication: Colorado newspaper_article: THE SALIDA MAIL OCTOBER 24, 1919 CATHERINE GALLAGHER LEADVILLE WOMAN TO BE BURIED HERE Miss Catherine Gallagher died at her home in Leadville yesterday, aged 78 years. She was a sister of Mrs. Bernard McMahon of 124 East Tenth street, Salida. The body will arrive on No. 2 Saturday Interment will be in Fairview Cemetery. Mrs. McMahon went to Leadville several days ago when her sister's condition became serious.

We are all worried! Karen, Watching the news tonight and the Colorado fires. Aren't you in Canon City? Can you give us a heads up that you are OK? Judi Saweyr Toni

Karen, Watching the news tonight and the Colorado fires. Aren't you in Canon City? Can you give us a heads up that you are OK? Judi Saweyr

HI Judy and all, THANK YOU for your concern! Actually I'm in Colorado City, but not all that far from Canon City, just over the ridge. Right between the fire at Canon City and the ones at Trinidad. We started to get some of the smoke from the fires but today has been very rainy so it has kept the transfer of smoke down. We are all hoping and praying that this rain has helped to contain the fire and that it will be under control soon. The problem is that this area of Colorado is in an extreme drought, they are saying it's the worst in 80 years, so there are fire bans all over. The last I heard the National Parks here are going to have to be shut down but I don't know when that's going to happen. If the fire comes our way you can bet I'm outta here!! Hugs to all of you, Karen

Can whoever has the Sneddon ancestors please contact me? Please? Karen Mitchell 2002 has been declared "The Year of "Unity". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected] Pueblo County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~copueblo/index.html

Good story! My father's parents had 21 children! Linda

Hi Taylor: We all thank you Taylor for transcribing the 1880 Huerfano County Census and contributing the index for all to use. I just wanted you to know that I enjoyed being a part of such a worthwhile project! I, too, have benefited from our List, and the quality and quantity of this enormous project is what makes our little database one of the most informative. Thank you Karen for all the wonderful ideas you have and the skill you have in developing a volunteer core of individuals willing to work together for a common cause. It's a pleasure to be a part of this List. Regards, Louise

hi everyone! a huge thanks to all of you. everyone! the support on this list is really amazing. from the emails of support to everyone who did one page or a zillion i can't thank you all enough. as i was telling karen, i really feel like i was able to give back just a little for all the info that i've found & benefited from so i say thank you for the opportunity....my only wish is i couldn't have been faster! it took me forever but next time (someone shoot me for saying "NEXT" time) i'll be quicker as i @ least sort of know what i'm doing, ha! thank you again, to each & every one of you. it's a pleasure to be included in this group.... now i'm going to lie down, that "next" is scaring the heck out of me, ha ha! taylor

Thanks Karen, I enjoyed being part of the team. Look forward to helping out when I can. Taylor thanks for letting me help in the best way I could this time. Janice

Congratulations To Everyone On Your 1880 Project! de parte de El Tecolote! ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: COHUERFA-D Digest V02 #88 Content-Type: text/plain COHUERFA-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 88 Today's Topics: #1 [COHUERFA] ancestry search tip ["John & Janet Wasson" <[email protected]] #2 [COHUERFA] BIG announcement ["Karen Mitchell" <[email protected]>] #3 RE: [COHUERFA] BIG announcement ["Dave Silva" <[email protected]>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from COHUERFA-D, send a message to [email protected] that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________

Great news Karen! Just don't complicate things and break the chair or fall out of it. We need you healthy. -----Original Message----- From: Karen Mitchell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 6:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [COHUERFA] BIG announcement I would like to let all of you know that I have just sent the 1880 Huerfano County Census transcription to our SC to have it uploaded into the Colorado Archives. I can't even begin to tell all of you what a milestone we have reached with this transcription. It's unbelievable! Our utmost THANKS to Taylor Hayes for transcribing this whole thing, and to Louise Adams, Tammy Gonzales, Dave Silva, Janice Gefre, and Bobbie Groves for proofing!!!! Taylor you had a great team to proof for you and YOU are really the greatest in all our eyes! Right now I'd be up doing the happy dance if I could, but I can't, so I'm just sitting on the chair bouncing around, PLEASE join me!!! Way to go team!!! Pat yourselves on the back for a terrific team effort! Hugs (big hugs, great big huge hugs!) for all of you. Karen Mitchell 2002 has been declared "The Year of "Unity". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected] Pueblo County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~copueblo/index.html

I would like to let all of you know that I have just sent the 1880 Huerfano County Census transcription to our SC to have it uploaded into the Colorado Archives. I can't even begin to tell all of you what a milestone we have reached with this transcription. It's unbelievable! Our utmost THANKS to Taylor Hayes for transcribing this whole thing, and to Louise Adams, Tammy Gonzales, Dave Silva, Janice Gefre, and Bobbie Groves for proofing!!!! Taylor you had a great team to proof for you and YOU are really the greatest in all our eyes! Right now I'd be up doing the happy dance if I could, but I can't, so I'm just sitting on the chair bouncing around, PLEASE join me!!! Way to go team!!! Pat yourselves on the back for a terrific team effort! Hugs (big hugs, great big huge hugs!) for all of you. Karen Mitchell 2002 has been declared "The Year of "Unity". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected] Pueblo County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~copueblo/index.html

If anyone is having trouble searching the indexes for the census images on ANCESTRY, here's some of the best tips ever. If you know the area where your ancestors should be, search by first name only; after months of frustration I got this tip, and VOILA!, there they were. With the last names horribly misspelled in the index,I'd of never found them. And, if you are researching an "Mc" surname, put a space between the "Mc" and the next letter--otherwise you will never find it! (this tip I read today, after figuring this out while searching through 247 "Franks" in a specific county, yesterday; wish I'd of had that tip sooner!).

The Story Behind the Picture of the Praying Hands: No one ever makes it alone. "The Praying Hands" is an example of teaching a biblical parable without a complete basis in the facts. You be the judge, true or false, it is still a wonderful tool for reflection. The Story of the Praying Hands Back in the fifteenth century, in a tiny village near Nuremberg, lived a family with eighteen children. Eighteen! In order merely to keep food on the table for this mob, the father and head of the household, a goldsmith by profession, worked almost eighteen hours a day at his trade and any other paying chore he could find in the neighborhood. Despite their seemingly hopeless condition, two of Albrecht Durer the Elder's children had a dream. They both wanted to pursue their talent for art, but they knew full well that their father would never be financially able to send either of them to Nuremberg to study at the Academy. After many long discussions at night in their crowded bed, the two boys finally worked out a pact. They would toss a coin. The loser would go down into the nearby mines and, with his earnings, support his brother while he attended the academy. Then, when that brother who won the toss completed his studies, in four years, he would support the other brother at the academy, either with sales of his artwork or, if necessary, also by laboring in the mines. They tossed a coin on a Sunday morning after church. Albrecht Durer won the toss and went off to Nuremberg. Albert went down into the dangerous mines and, for the next four years, financed his brother, whose work at the academy was almost an immediate sensation. Albrecht's etchings, his woodcuts, and his oils were far better than those of most of his professors, and by the time he graduated, he was beginning to earn considerable fees for his commissioned works. When the young artist returned to his village, the Durer family held a festive dinner on their lawn to celebrate Albrecht's triumphant homecoming. After a long and memorable meal, punctuated with music and laughter, Albrecht rose from his honored position at the head of the table to drink a toast to his beloved brother for the years of sacrifice that had enabled Albrecht to fulfill his ambition. His closing words were, "And now, Albert, blessed brother of mine, now it is your turn. Now you can go to Nuremberg to pursue your dream, and I will take care of you." All heads turned in eager expectation to the far end of the table where Albert sat, tears streaming down his pale face, shaking his lowered head from side to side while he sobbed and repeated, over and over, "No ...no ...no ...no." Finally, Albert rose and wiped the tears from his cheeks. He glanced down the long table at the faces he loved, and then, holding his hands close to his right cheek, he said softly, "No, brother. I cannot go to Nuremberg. It is too late for me. Look ... look what four years in the mines have done to my hands! The bones in every finger have been smashed at least once, and lately I have been suffering from arthritis so badly in my right hand that I cannot even hold a glass to return your toast, much less make delicate lines on parchment or canvas with a pen or a brush. No, brother ... for me it is too late." More than 450 years have passed. By now, Albrecht Durer's hundreds of masterful portraits, pen and silver-point sketches, watercolors, charcoals, woodcuts, and copper engravings hang in every great museum in the world, but the odds are great that you, like most people, are familiar with only one of Albrecht Durer's works. More than merely being familiar with it, you very well may have a reproduction hanging in your home or office. One day, to pay homage to Albert for all that he had sacrificed, Albrecht Durer painstakingly drew his brother's abused hands with palms together and thin fingers stretched skyward. He called his powerful drawing simply "Hands," but the entire world almost immediately opened their hearts to his great masterpiece and renamed his tribute of love "The Praying Hands."

Received this from one of my cousins! Subject: Final Exam At Duke University, there were four sophomores taking Organic Chemistry. They were doing so well on all the quizzes, midterms and labs that each had an "A" so far for the semester. These four friends were so confident that, the weekend before finals, they decided to go up to the University of Virginia and party with some friends there. They had a great time, but after all the hearty partying, they slept all day Sunday and didn't make it back to Duke until early Monday morning. Rather than taking the final then, they decided to find their professor after the final and explain to him why they missed it. They explained that they had gone to UVA for the weekend with the plan to come back in time to study, but, unfortunately, they had a flat tire on the way back, didn't have a spare, and couldn't get help for a long time. As a result, they missed the final. The professor thought it over and then agreed they could make up the final the following day. The guys were elated and relieved. They studied that night and went in the next day at the time the professor had told them. He placed them in separate rooms and handed each of them a test booklet, and told them to begin. They looked at the first problem, worth five points. It was something simple about free radical formation. "Cool," they thought at the same time, each one in his separate room, "this is going to be easy." Each finished the problem and then turned the page. On the second page was written: (For 95 points): Which tire?

Hi everybody! I will be off line until Tuesday. Hope everyone has a safe and happy Memorial Day weekend. Karen Mitchell 2002 has been declared "The Year of "Unity". Pass it on. [email protected] US GenWeb Project County Coordinator Huerfano County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~cohuerfa/index.htm Huerfano County List Owner [email protected] Taos County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nmtaos/index.htm Taos County List Owner [email protected] Pueblo County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~copueblo/index.html

Love Thy Neighbor (even if she is thy cousin) By David L. Brooks [email protected] When I was growing up, before the advent of television, my parents derived much pleasure from the visits of other "old-timers." Much to my youthful disgust, they would sit for seemingly endless hours and talk about their parents, grandparents, cousins, and uncles and aunts, as well as all the kinfolks of the neighbors. Never in my remotest dreams did it ever occur to me that I should have been listening instead of smirking. Now that most of those who could have supplied the answers to many of my questions about those souls from whom I sprang, are gone, I have developed an interest in genealogy. If only someone had taken it upon himself to preserve some of the fruits of these meetings on paper, how much easier would the tracking down of my ancestors now be. Early in my quest for information about my progenitors, I became amazed at the frequency at which they intermarried. Marriages of second, third, and even first cousins were not uncommon. After reflecting upon this phenomenon, I have concluded that perhaps we should not be too harsh in judgment of those kissing cousins of days gone by. Let's consider their plight: First, there just were not many people from whom to select a marriage partner, especially in the rural areas where the pioneering families lived. Travel was severely restricted, since they had neither automobiles or roads -- the horse was the "mane" mode of transportation. (Usually, the horse was one with which the fields were plowed, wagons and sleds were pulled, and general farm work performed, so knights upon prancing steeds our ancestral swains were not.) Add to this the fact that trying to wrest a living from the rocky hillsides was a six- or seven-day-a-week job for all able-bodied males of the family and it will be understood that courting did not enjoy prime-time billing. Maybe this was Mother Nature's application of the principle of survival of the fittest to those earlier generations -- only the most-determined people married and reared families. >From the studies I have made thus far in my embryonic genealogical career, I believe that I now understand more about how those farm lads who begat us chose their mates. They would strike out across the mountain from where they lived, and if a wife was found on the other side of that mountain, it was his first cousin whom he married. If no suitable bride material was found there, he crossed the second mountain. A girl chosen there would be his second cousin. If he had to cross three mountains in search of a heart and hand, it would be his third cousin, and on and on. The roving suitor-at-large who completely left the county on his mission stood a chance of finding someone who was of no blood relation at all, but many may have considered it not worth the extra time and effort to do so, with all those good-looking cousins just across a mountain or two. Having no expertise in the field of genetics, I cannot say if the many horror stories about inadequacies and deformities of the offspring of parents whose families have excessively intermarried for generations have any validity. I only know that if I were a young man seriously considering matrimony, I would not take any chances. Conceded, love may be blind, but it doesn't have to be stupid and irresponsible as well. A couple who expects to combine their talents and genes to produce children would be wise to have some genealogical knowledge of each other. I am speaking from experience -- I inadvertently married my fifth cousin, and all five of our children, with no exceptions, were born stark naked and with hair all over the tops of their heads.