Added a 1912 list of teachers from six counties - those attending a "Normal" training in Wray. Started a page on the Sullivan family of Wray.- they left the county in 1947 - one son won a Tony for Best Director, a daughter is professor at Cal-Berkeley, a son at U Mass. Added a photo of Water standpipe- Yuma . -------------------------------------------------- I've been thinking about last week's email regarding interest in genweb. Kit Carson and Yuma are very similar counties economically, ethnically, and geography. But there's hardly any interest in Kit Carson in genweb. Someone from out of state might email me, but that's only two or three times a year. And there's very little on the Rootsweb or Genealogy.com message boards for Kit Carson, so let's not blame ourselves. Yes, let's look for successors - maybe a high school or junior high school computer teacher could use it as a class assignment ? -------------------------------- And let's pull for Gail - keep us informed !

Checking in for my counties Vikki ________________________________ From: m. d. monk <mdmonk@tx.rr.com> To: Colorado Genweb List <COGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 6:19 AM Subject: [COGEN] March Checkin - Kit Carson, Washingto, Yuma Added a 1912 list of teachers from six counties  - those attending a "Normal" training in Wray. Started a page on the  Sullivan family  of Wray.- they left the county in 1947 - one son won a Tony for Best Director, a daughter is professor at Cal-Berkeley, a son at U Mass. Added a photo of  Water standpipe- Yuma . -------------------------------------------------- I've been thinking about last week's email regarding interest in genweb.  Kit Carson and Yuma are very similar counties economically, ethnically, and geography.  But there's hardly any interest in Kit Carson in genweb.  Someone from out of state might email me, but that's only two or three times a year. And there's very little on the Rootsweb or Genealogy.com message boards for Kit Carson,  so let's not blame ourselves. Yes, let's look for successors - maybe a high school or junior high school computer teacher could use it as a class assignment ? -------------------------------- And let's pull for Gail - keep us informed ! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gail, I'm sorry you are feeling down about this. I will see about recruiting in my area (at the historical society, genealogical society, the cemetery association). Do we have a facebook page for COGENWEB? That might be another way to get people interested. I wish there were more young people that enjoy this kind of work. I positive though that if you need help with the other counties or special projects, we would all be more than happy to help. Are there any current special projects that maybe some of us can help with? You are more than capable of leading us and have done a great job. My feeling is, we are hear because we want to be, and we love helping others with the things that places like Ancestry can't help with. And when you think about it, it will take FOREVER for Ancestry to go through all of the records, photographs and memories that we have gone through and publish on the websites. Ancestry in a sense has mainly employees that publish these records, they don't have people go to every single cemetery, historical and genealogical societies in the state, like what we do. In my sense, we have many more opportunities to succeed above Ancestry and I know we can do it because we are all so very dedicated. I take examples from other counties' websites (thank you all by the way) and you know what? I see so much more love and dedication put into these websites than Ancestry could ever put into theirs. Well those are my thoughts, thanks for listening! :) Thanks, Matthew Prythero -----Original Message----- From: Gail Kilgore <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> To: cogen <COGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 24, 2012 2:49 am Subject: [COGEN] Check-In's First, I want to thank those of you who are faithful in checking in monthly. It is greatly appreciated. Those I need to hear from are: Cheyenne Co. - Karla Mahlberg who has not checked in the past two months. Broomfield Co. - Julie Miller Baca and Rio Blanco - Maggie Stewart Las Animas - Sandi Barber Rio Grande - Linda Simpson Clear Creek - Mike Irwin Lake Co. - Mike Irwin Then, I got an email today that left me with a lot of mixed feelings. I will only send bits and pieces of the email and the person sending it is not from Colorado. "There is too much well funded competition out there. We used to be it and now we are yesterday's news. The crap that USGenWeb did is partially to blame but it is also a function of being out of date. Volunteers don't have the funds to do massive databases." "Thanks for asking. I don't know anyone [useful] who would be interested. They are dropping fast - age, illness, etc. We probably have 25% adoptable at this point." This left me to thinking today and trying to find replacements for these counties is becoming impossible. They have moved on with the new technology. I would like to see a roll call from all states as to what their vacancy is. I have a lady interested in a county and still trying to work it out, had another one interested but didn't know beans about web pages. I agree with this person that we are now a lot older than when we started. Life is playing on our times, there are illnesses and all that goes along with getting older. I have been trying to bring in young blood new people to carry on. I would like to hear your thoughts and thoughts on recruiting, or else I am going to have to back up and ask that some of us take on more counties to get them updated. I can't do them all and Billie has been helping. I am not asking you to adopt them but to at least work on the main pages of the sites that are up for adoption. I am not quite ready to retire from COGenWeb but I may have to take a leave of absence and would like Billie to step up to the plate to keep things rolling. I really haven't said anything but I am just finishing up radiation for skin cancer, now I think I have found some more, will get this checked tomorrow when I go in for my last treatment. I am falling apart.. as soon as my MRI is done, I will be having surgery on my cervical discs. I had C 4 & 5 fused 40 years ago and they are shrinking and C3 is in trouble and I am in 24 hour pain with this neck problems. I can't be on pain meds and try and think about what I am doing and pain meds really make me crabby and you get enough of that from me with out something else being added too it. Billie is very capable of handling everything... and I will let you all know when I am going to be out of touch for a while. My computer will be near but I will just have to see how I am doing. If you have any questions I am here. Gail ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, I was on a research trip the beginning of the month and forgot to check-in. I will use this as a late check-in for February and early check-in for March. Julie Miller, CG Broomfield, Colorado GenWeb Coordinator http://www.cogenweb.com/broomfield/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Kilgore" <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> To: "cogen" <COGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:45 AM Subject: [COGEN] Check-In's > First, I want to thank those of you who are faithful in checking in > monthly. It is greatly appreciated. > > Those I need to hear from are: > > Cheyenne Co. - Karla Mahlberg who has not checked in the past two months. > Broomfield Co. - Julie Miller > Baca and Rio Blanco - Maggie Stewart > Las Animas - Sandi Barber > Rio Grande - Linda Simpson > Clear Creek - Mike Irwin > Lake Co. - Mike Irwin > > Then, I got an email today that left me with a lot of mixed feelings. > > I will only send bits and pieces of the email and the person sending it is > not from Colorado. > > "There is too much well funded competition out there. We used to be it and > now we are yesterday's news. The crap that USGenWeb did is partially to > blame but it is also a function of being out of date. Volunteers don't > have > the funds to do massive databases." > > "Thanks for asking. I don't know anyone [useful] who would be interested. > They are dropping fast - age, illness, etc. We probably have 25% adoptable > at this point." > This left me to thinking today and trying to find replacements for these > counties is becoming impossible. They have moved on with the new > technology. I would like to see a roll call from all states as to what > their vacancy is. I have a lady interested in a county and still trying > to > work it out, had another one interested but didn't know beans about web > pages. > > I agree with this person that we are now a lot older than when we started. > Life is playing on our times, there are illnesses and all that goes along > with getting older. I have been trying to bring in young blood new people > to carry on. > > I would like to hear your thoughts and thoughts on recruiting, or else I > am > going to have to back up and ask that some of us take on more counties to > get them updated. I can't do them all and Billie has been helping. I am > not asking you to adopt them but to at least work on the main pages of the > sites that are up for adoption. > > I am not quite ready to retire from COGenWeb but I may have to take a > leave > of absence and would like Billie to step up to the plate to keep things > rolling. > > I really haven't said anything but I am just finishing up radiation for > skin cancer, now I think I have found some more, will get this checked > tomorrow when I go in for my last treatment. I am falling apart.. as soon > as my MRI is done, I will be having surgery on my cervical discs. I had C > 4 & 5 fused 40 years ago and they are shrinking and C3 is in trouble and I > am in 24 hour pain with this neck problems. I can't be on pain meds and > try and think about what I am doing and pain meds really make me crabby > and > you get enough of that from me with out something else being added too it. > > Billie is very capable of handling everything... and I will let you all > know when I am going to be out of touch for a while. My computer will be > near but I will just have to see how I am doing. > > If you have any questions I am here. > > Gail > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I'm here and did a checkin every month. I wonder if something is eating my emails. Maggie Stewart Baca and Rio Blanco On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Gail Kilgore <gail.kilgore@gmail.com>wrote: > First, I want to thank those of you who are faithful in checking in > monthly. It is greatly appreciated. > > Those I need to hear from are: > > Cheyenne Co. - Karla Mahlberg who has not checked in the past two months. > Broomfield Co. - Julie Miller > Baca and Rio Blanco - Maggie Stewart > Las Animas - Sandi Barber > Rio Grande - Linda Simpson > Clear Creek - Mike Irwin > Lake Co. - Mike Irwin > > Then, I got an email today that left me with a lot of mixed feelings. > > I will only send bits and pieces of the email and the person sending it is > not from Colorado. > > "There is too much well funded competition out there. We used to be it and > now we are yesterday's news. The crap that USGenWeb did is partially to > blame but it is also a function of being out of date. Volunteers don't have > the funds to do massive databases." > > "Thanks for asking. I don't know anyone [useful] who would be interested. > They are dropping fast - age, illness, etc. We probably have 25% adoptable > at this point." > This left me to thinking today and trying to find replacements for these > counties is becoming impossible. They have moved on with the new > technology. I would like to see a roll call from all states as to what > their vacancy is. I have a lady interested in a county and still trying to > work it out, had another one interested but didn't know beans about web > pages. > > I agree with this person that we are now a lot older than when we started. > Life is playing on our times, there are illnesses and all that goes along > with getting older. I have been trying to bring in young blood new people > to carry on. > > I would like to hear your thoughts and thoughts on recruiting, or else I am > going to have to back up and ask that some of us take on more counties to > get them updated. I can't do them all and Billie has been helping. I am > not asking you to adopt them but to at least work on the main pages of the > sites that are up for adoption. > > I am not quite ready to retire from COGenWeb but I may have to take a leave > of absence and would like Billie to step up to the plate to keep things > rolling. > > I really haven't said anything but I am just finishing up radiation for > skin cancer, now I think I have found some more, will get this checked > tomorrow when I go in for my last treatment. I am falling apart.. as soon > as my MRI is done, I will be having surgery on my cervical discs. I had C > 4 & 5 fused 40 years ago and they are shrinking and C3 is in trouble and I > am in 24 hour pain with this neck problems. I can't be on pain meds and > try and think about what I am doing and pain meds really make me crabby and > you get enough of that from me with out something else being added too it. > > Billie is very capable of handling everything... and I will let you all > know when I am going to be out of touch for a while. My computer will be > near but I will just have to see how I am doing. > > If you have any questions I am here. > > Gail > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Nope, Don... you checked in... hope you are doing better too. Gail

On 02/24/2012 03:45 AM, Gail Kilgore wrote: > Then, I got an email today that left me with a lot of mixed feelings. > > I will only send bits and pieces of the email and the person sending it is > not from Colorado. > > "There is too much well funded competition out there. We used to be it and > now we are yesterday's news. The crap that USGenWeb did is partially to > blame but it is also a function of being out of date. Volunteers don't have > the funds to do massive databases." > > "Thanks for asking. I don't know anyone [useful] who would be interested. > They are dropping fast - age, illness, etc. We probably have 25% adoptable > at this point." > This left me to thinking today and trying to find replacements for these > counties is becoming impossible. They have moved on with the new > technology. I would like to see a roll call from all states as to what > their vacancy is. I have a lady interested in a county and still trying to > work it out, had another one interested but didn't know beans about web > pages. > > I agree with this person that we are now a lot older than when we started. > Life is playing on our times, there are illnesses and all that goes along > with getting older. I have been trying to bring in young blood new people > to carry on. > > I would like to hear your thoughts and thoughts on recruiting, or else I am > going to have to back up and ask that some of us take on more counties to > get them updated. I can't do them all and Billie has been helping. I am > not asking you to adopt them but to at least work on the main pages of the > sites that are up for adoption. On one hand I can sort of see their point. Ancestry, and other big sites, have huge budgets and loads of "stuff" to get massive databases online. To bring this down to a manageable issue lets look at it like a "Mon-n-Pop" [ us ] with Wal Mart [ Ancestry, et. al. ] coming to town. How can "we" compete with the "Big Box". "We" don't have the buying power they do. "We" don't have the "deep pockets" [ budget ] they do. The issues just keep coming. The answer comes from Sam Walton himself. In his book he tells the "Mon-n-Pops" how to stay in business and even prosper when Wal Mart comes to town. As a general rule Wal Mart comes to town and builds a store with nothing else around it. Next thing you know every "Big Box" in the country starts popping up like weeds all around the Wal Mart store. Did you ever wonder why? [ rhetorical question ] The reason is, they read Sam's book. Next time your in a Wal Mart take a REALLY GOOD look at the shelves. Wal Mart is very good at what they do. BUT, they don't carry a large variety of any one kind of thing. The trick, that most "Mom-n-Pops" never learn, is to do what Wal Mart doesn't do well. Provide the kinds of things that Wal Mart doesn't. For many years I was Sporting Goods Department Manager at Wal Mart. Just down the street was an Academy Sporting Goods. I was the best salesman that Academy had [ I thought about going down there and asking for a raise *<]:oD ]. Here's the deal. We can't compete with Ancestry, et. al., so we need to identify what they do best and look for the things they don't. "WE" have to provide the goods and services that Ancestry doesn't. "WE" have to find ways to get our message out, that "we" are here and what "we" provide, in ways that don't require major budgets. "WE" have to work smarter, not harder. "WE" have to go that extra step, provide a better "shopping experience" for our visitors. As for the recruitment issue..............I don't know what the answer is. There has to be some way to find those people interested but I don't have the cure all for that. > > I am not quite ready to retire from COGenWeb but I may have to take a leave > of absence and would like Billie to step up to the plate to keep things > rolling. I'm not ready for you to retire either. I'm sure everyone feels that way. I'm not Gail, and I've kind of stirred the pot a bit lately, but with everyones forbearance I will do what I can to keep things rolling if you have to step back for a bit. I do firmly believe that this group, CoGenWeb, belongs to all of us. That every member should have their say and majority rules. Not always the best but the only fair way to have it. > > I really haven't said anything but I am just finishing up radiation for > skin cancer, now I think I have found some more, will get this checked > tomorrow when I go in for my last treatment. I am falling apart.. as soon > as my MRI is done, I will be having surgery on my cervical discs. I had C > 4& 5 fused 40 years ago and they are shrinking and C3 is in trouble and I > am in 24 hour pain with this neck problems. I can't be on pain meds and > try and think about what I am doing and pain meds really make me crabby and > you get enough of that from me with out something else being added too it. > > Billie is very capable of handling everything... and I will let you all > know when I am going to be out of touch for a while. My computer will be > near but I will just have to see how I am doing. <blushing> Thank you for the kind words and vote of confidence. > > If you have any questions I am here. -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Rio Grande, here... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Kilgore" <gail.kilgore@gmail.com> To: "cogen" <COGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:45 AM Subject: [COGEN] Check-In's > First, I want to thank those of you who are faithful in checking in > monthly. It is greatly appreciated. > > Those I need to hear from are: > > Cheyenne Co. - Karla Mahlberg who has not checked in the past two months. > Broomfield Co. - Julie Miller > Baca and Rio Blanco - Maggie Stewart > Las Animas - Sandi Barber > Rio Grande - Linda Simpson > Clear Creek - Mike Irwin > Lake Co. - Mike Irwin > > Then, I got an email today that left me with a lot of mixed feelings. > > I will only send bits and pieces of the email and the person sending it is > not from Colorado. > > "There is too much well funded competition out there. We used to be it and > now we are yesterday's news. The crap that USGenWeb did is partially to > blame but it is also a function of being out of date. Volunteers don't > have > the funds to do massive databases." > > "Thanks for asking. I don't know anyone [useful] who would be interested. > They are dropping fast - age, illness, etc. We probably have 25% adoptable > at this point." > This left me to thinking today and trying to find replacements for these > counties is becoming impossible. They have moved on with the new > technology. I would like to see a roll call from all states as to what > their vacancy is. I have a lady interested in a county and still trying > to > work it out, had another one interested but didn't know beans about web > pages. > > I agree with this person that we are now a lot older than when we started. > Life is playing on our times, there are illnesses and all that goes along > with getting older. I have been trying to bring in young blood new people > to carry on. > > I would like to hear your thoughts and thoughts on recruiting, or else I > am > going to have to back up and ask that some of us take on more counties to > get them updated. I can't do them all and Billie has been helping. I am > not asking you to adopt them but to at least work on the main pages of the > sites that are up for adoption. > > I am not quite ready to retire from COGenWeb but I may have to take a > leave > of absence and would like Billie to step up to the plate to keep things > rolling. > > I really haven't said anything but I am just finishing up radiation for > skin cancer, now I think I have found some more, will get this checked > tomorrow when I go in for my last treatment. I am falling apart.. as soon > as my MRI is done, I will be having surgery on my cervical discs. I had C > 4 & 5 fused 40 years ago and they are shrinking and C3 is in trouble and I > am in 24 hour pain with this neck problems. I can't be on pain meds and > try and think about what I am doing and pain meds really make me crabby > and > you get enough of that from me with out something else being added too it. > > Billie is very capable of handling everything... and I will let you all > know when I am going to be out of touch for a while. My computer will be > near but I will just have to see how I am doing. > > If you have any questions I am here. > > Gail > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry to hear about your situation. I think I still own Clear Creek as I have for >15 years so you aren't waiting for that check-in. Don Stanwyck

First, I want to thank those of you who are faithful in checking in monthly. It is greatly appreciated. Those I need to hear from are: Cheyenne Co. - Karla Mahlberg who has not checked in the past two months. Broomfield Co. - Julie Miller Baca and Rio Blanco - Maggie Stewart Las Animas - Sandi Barber Rio Grande - Linda Simpson Clear Creek - Mike Irwin Lake Co. - Mike Irwin Then, I got an email today that left me with a lot of mixed feelings. I will only send bits and pieces of the email and the person sending it is not from Colorado. "There is too much well funded competition out there. We used to be it and now we are yesterday's news. The crap that USGenWeb did is partially to blame but it is also a function of being out of date. Volunteers don't have the funds to do massive databases." "Thanks for asking. I don't know anyone [useful] who would be interested. They are dropping fast - age, illness, etc. We probably have 25% adoptable at this point." This left me to thinking today and trying to find replacements for these counties is becoming impossible. They have moved on with the new technology. I would like to see a roll call from all states as to what their vacancy is. I have a lady interested in a county and still trying to work it out, had another one interested but didn't know beans about web pages. I agree with this person that we are now a lot older than when we started. Life is playing on our times, there are illnesses and all that goes along with getting older. I have been trying to bring in young blood new people to carry on. I would like to hear your thoughts and thoughts on recruiting, or else I am going to have to back up and ask that some of us take on more counties to get them updated. I can't do them all and Billie has been helping. I am not asking you to adopt them but to at least work on the main pages of the sites that are up for adoption. I am not quite ready to retire from COGenWeb but I may have to take a leave of absence and would like Billie to step up to the plate to keep things rolling. I really haven't said anything but I am just finishing up radiation for skin cancer, now I think I have found some more, will get this checked tomorrow when I go in for my last treatment. I am falling apart.. as soon as my MRI is done, I will be having surgery on my cervical discs. I had C 4 & 5 fused 40 years ago and they are shrinking and C3 is in trouble and I am in 24 hour pain with this neck problems. I can't be on pain meds and try and think about what I am doing and pain meds really make me crabby and you get enough of that from me with out something else being added too it. Billie is very capable of handling everything... and I will let you all know when I am going to be out of touch for a while. My computer will be near but I will just have to see how I am doing. If you have any questions I am here. Gail

For what it is worth - I agree with those that think it is not such a good idea. We talk about the business of the COGenWeb and vote on this list. There are times when we have our disagreements and agreements that have absolutely nothing to do with the volunteers who transcribe and donate to our sites. I, too, receive hundreds of email everyday with work and other causes, and don't need to be reading about other issues that don't have anything to do with our "work." I have nothing against a different list for "chat" but just don't have time to wade through email that is not specific to our jobs here. Carolyn Golowka Adams County Coordinator ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billie Walsh" <bilwalsh@swbell.net> To: <cogen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:17 AM Subject: [COGEN] Volunteers on the list? I'm kind of the "new-kid-on-the-block" on the CoGenWeb. Still feeling my way around a bit. I've been talking to Gail about Cindy, the lady that volunteered to do transcriptions, being on the list as a volunteer. I feel like it might be a good idea and help out with communication between her and any CC's that might wish to take advantage of her generous offer. Gail said it wasn't allowed. She suggested I take it up with you all. There's nothing in the USGenWeb [ USGW ] against it. The USGW simply states that all CC's have to be on the list. It doesn't address any other volunteers. I feel like allowing those that volunteer for other things than CC might feel more like a "part of the family", as it were. They might at some point feel like even adopting a county if they feel like they are already part of the group. So What's the opinion of the group? Should volunteers other than CC's be allowed on the list? -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm in agreement with Billie. I think volunteers other than CC's should be allowed on the list. I see no good reason to keep volunteers at arms-length or discourage active communication amongst Ccs and volunteers by limiting this. If the volunteer wants to be on it, I saw great! Regards, Cynthia On 2/11/12 10:17 AM, "Billie Walsh" <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: >I'm kind of the "new-kid-on-the-block" on the CoGenWeb. Still feeling my >way around a bit. > >I've been talking to Gail about Cindy, the lady that volunteered to do >transcriptions, being on the list as a volunteer. I feel like it might >be a good idea and help out with communication between her and any CC's >that might wish to take advantage of her generous offer. Gail said it >wasn't allowed. She suggested I take it up with you all. There's nothing >in the USGenWeb [ USGW ] against it. The USGW simply states that all >CC's have to be on the list. It doesn't address any other volunteers. > >I feel like allowing those that volunteer for other things than CC might >feel more like a "part of the family", as it were. They might at some >point feel like even adopting a county if they feel like they are >already part of the group. > >So > >What's the opinion of the group? Should volunteers other than CC's be >allowed on the list? > >-- >³The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain >the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the >government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests². > >- Patrick Henry - > > >_ _... ..._ _ >_._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >COGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

I'm with Don on this one. I too wade through 100s of emails a day. Pauli ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Stanwyck" Subject: Re: [COGEN] Volunteers on the list? In the past the list was used for conversations between CCs but there were some CCs who objected to being forced to wade through all the non-CoGenWeb specific postings. That made for a very dry, limited use list, used solely for CoGenWeb business. As one who has to process literally hundreds of emails a day (I get over 500 a day on my job) I'm a big fan of having a business list and, if people want it, a separate list for chatting. While I appreciate my fellow CoGenWeb volunteers and the great job you all do, I'm not one who has much time on my hands to read through things like family recipes. But I have no objection to an optional list that had that kind of content :-) --don stanwyck

Personally, I don't think it is appropriate for them to be on the list unless they are a CC, Co-CC, or a Town CC. Then they should be required. They are not a voting member of the state. They would receive more benefit by subbing to a county mail list they were interested in. I don't see any point to them being subbed to the CC list. Denise On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > I'm kind of the "new-kid-on-the-block" on the CoGenWeb. Still feeling my > way around a bit. > > I've been talking to Gail about Cindy, the lady that volunteered to do > transcriptions, being on the list as a volunteer. I feel like it might > be a good idea and help out with communication between her and any CC's > that might wish to take advantage of her generous offer. Gail said it > wasn't allowed. She suggested I take it up with you all. There's nothing > in the USGenWeb [ USGW ] against it. The USGW simply states that all > CC's have to be on the list. It doesn't address any other volunteers. > > I feel like allowing those that volunteer for other things than CC might > feel more like a "part of the family", as it were. They might at some > point feel like even adopting a county if they feel like they are > already part of the group. > > So > > What's the opinion of the group? Should volunteers other than CC's be > allowed on the list? > > -- > “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain > the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the > government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. > > - Patrick Henry - > > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wellllllllllllllll, the mail list is for business of the county coordinators to vote or discuss business or to complain and disagree... When a volunteer is not a CC then they get a bad taste for what happens behind the scenes. We have a volunteer page on the web site and her name can be added there as a volunteer transcriber and any CC who wants something transcribed can communicate with her off the list. The other things is............. it is hard enough to keep track of who is who and where they are and with some using email addresses other than something that tells who they are we are back to are they for real or an alias. Thanks Denise, I think you explained it very well. Gail On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Cynthia Monroe <cynthiamcgrady@aol.com>wrote: > I'm in agreement with Billie. I think volunteers other than CC's should > be allowed on the list. I see no good reason to keep volunteers at > arms-length or discourage active communication amongst Ccs and volunteers > by limiting this. If the volunteer wants to be on it, I saw great! mail > lidd > Regards, > Cynthia > > > On 2/11/12 10:17 AM, "Billie Walsh" <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > > >I'm kind of the "new-kid-on-the-block" on the CoGenWeb. Still feeling my > >way around a bit. > > > >I've been talking to Gail about Cindy, the lady that volunteered to do > >transcriptions, being on the list as a volunteer. I feel like it might > >be a good idea and help out with communication between her and any CC's > >that might wish to take advantage of her generous offer. Gail said it > >wasn't allowed. She suggested I take it up with you all. There's nothing > >in the USGenWeb [ USGW ] against it. The USGW simply states that all > >CC's have to be on the list. It doesn't address any other volunteers. > > > >I feel like allowing those that volunteer for other things than CC might > >feel more like a "part of the family", as it were. They might at some > >point feel like even adopting a county if they feel like they are > >already part of the group. > > > >So > > > >What's the opinion of the group? Should volunteers other than CC's be > >allowed on the list? > > > >-- > >³The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain > >the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the > >government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests². > > > >- Patrick Henry - > > > > > >_ _... ..._ _ > >_._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >COGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived!

There is nothing in the USGenWeb bylaws that I can find that forbids this. I also seem to remember that many years ago, we had more on the list than just cc's of the counties and of course the asc's and sc. For instance, for a long time I had people who would adopt and maintain a website just for a single town or community. At first they were invited to join this list, and later required to. I don't remember any of them actually participating on this list in any way, besides being members. This was before Gail was our SC, so I think things may of changed after that. At any rate I don't have community volunteers anymore, it was too difficult to keep everything coordinated. I really don't have an objection to her joining this list. However, I do wonder if she will get any benefit out of it. As a couple others said, it is rare than anything but checkins occur here along with the occasional business discussions. Pauli ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billie Walsh" Subject: [COGEN] Volunteers on the list? I'm kind of the "new-kid-on-the-block" on the CoGenWeb. Still feeling my way around a bit. I've been talking to Gail about Cindy, the lady that volunteered to do transcriptions, being on the list as a volunteer. I feel like it might be a good idea and help out with communication between her and any CC's that might wish to take advantage of her generous offer. Gail said it wasn't allowed. She suggested I take it up with you all. There's nothing in the USGenWeb [ USGW ] against it. The USGW simply states that all CC's have to be on the list. It doesn't address any other volunteers. I feel like allowing those that volunteer for other things than CC might feel more like a "part of the family", as it were. They might at some point feel like even adopting a county if they feel like they are already part of the group. So What's the opinion of the group? Should volunteers other than CC's be allowed on the list?

On 02/11/2012 10:47 AM, m. d. monk wrote: > Being on the list might discourage people - after the twenty-or-so > monthly checkin messages, there's not much exciting info. Pauli Wrote: > > However, I do wonder if she will get any benefit out of it. As a > couple others said, it is rare than anything but checkins occur here > along with the occasional business discussions. I get what you are saying. The bottom line is that the USGW says the list has to be here and you have to be on it. To me that means that this is YOUR list and it is/will be whatever you all make of it. If you all are like me you are probably on way to many mail lists. This one is one you have no choice about. The list doesn't have to be all about check-ins and state business. On another state list we had a long thread about old family recipes. On that list we crow about a new branch on the family tree or blow off steam when someone jumps your case about something on your site(s). I discovered two "cousins" by our chit-chat on the list. If your doing research for something and come across something that would be of interest to another CC it could be posted to the list. This is your list. There's no need for everyone to just be an anonymous name on the list once or twice a month. The list could be used to make a family, the CoGenWeb Family. To make friends. All here share a common interest, Colorado. The list isn't here just for the amusement of the SC and ASC. Something to think about. -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Being on the list might discourage people - after the twenty-or-so monthly checkin messages, there's not much exciting info. If she were on the Rootsweb email list for message boards for a few counties - especially one where she lives, the emails would be more interesting. And if she were a lookup volunteer for her home county, that would be more interesting (and would give more positive feedback to her). If her local library has some reference books for Colorado genealogy, she could - I'm an optimist - be a lookup volunteer to a lot of counties. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billie Walsh" <bilwalsh@swbell.net> To: <cogen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 10:17 AM Subject: [COGEN] Volunteers on the list? I'm kind of the "new-kid-on-the-block" on the CoGenWeb. Still feeling my way around a bit. I've been talking to Gail about Cindy, the lady that volunteered to do transcriptions, being on the list as a volunteer. I feel like it might be a good idea and help out with communication between her and any CC's that might wish to take advantage of her generous offer. Gail said it wasn't allowed. She suggested I take it up with you all. There's nothing in the USGenWeb [ USGW ] against it. The USGW simply states that all CC's have to be on the list. It doesn't address any other volunteers. I feel like allowing those that volunteer for other things than CC might feel more like a "part of the family", as it were. They might at some point feel like even adopting a county if they feel like they are already part of the group. So What's the opinion of the group? Should volunteers other than CC's be allowed on the list? -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm kind of the "new-kid-on-the-block" on the CoGenWeb. Still feeling my way around a bit. I've been talking to Gail about Cindy, the lady that volunteered to do transcriptions, being on the list as a volunteer. I feel like it might be a good idea and help out with communication between her and any CC's that might wish to take advantage of her generous offer. Gail said it wasn't allowed. She suggested I take it up with you all. There's nothing in the USGenWeb [ USGW ] against it. The USGW simply states that all CC's have to be on the list. It doesn't address any other volunteers. I feel like allowing those that volunteer for other things than CC might feel more like a "part of the family", as it were. They might at some point feel like even adopting a county if they feel like they are already part of the group. So What's the opinion of the group? Should volunteers other than CC's be allowed on the list? -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

In the past the list was used for conversations between CCs but there were some CCs who objected to being forced to wade through all the non-CoGenWeb specific postings. That made for a very dry, limited use list, used solely for CoGenWeb business. As one who has to process literally hundreds of emails a day (I get over 500 a day on my job) I'm a big fan of having a business list and, if people want it, a separate list for chatting. While I appreciate my fellow CoGenWeb volunteers and the great job you all do, I'm not one who has much time on my hands to read through things like family recipes. But I have no objection to an optional list that had that kind of content :-) --don stanwyck -----Original Message----- From: cogen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cogen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Billie Walsh Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:38 AM To: cogen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COGEN] Volunteers on the list? On 02/11/2012 10:47 AM, m. d. monk wrote: > Being on the list might discourage people - after the twenty-or-so > monthly checkin messages, there's not much exciting info. Pauli Wrote: > > However, I do wonder if she will get any benefit out of it. As a > couple others said, it is rare than anything but checkins occur here > along with the occasional business discussions. I get what you are saying. The bottom line is that the USGW says the list has to be here and you have to be on it. To me that means that this is YOUR list and it is/will be whatever you all make of it. If you all are like me you are probably on way to many mail lists. This one is one you have no choice about. The list doesn't have to be all about check-ins and state business. On another state list we had a long thread about old family recipes. On that list we crow about a new branch on the family tree or blow off steam when someone jumps your case about something on your site(s). I discovered two "cousins" by our chit-chat on the list. If your doing research for something and come across something that would be of interest to another CC it could be posted to the list. This is your list. There's no need for everyone to just be an anonymous name on the list once or twice a month. The list could be used to make a family, the CoGenWeb Family. To make friends. All here share a common interest, Colorado. The list isn't here just for the amusement of the SC and ASC. Something to think about. -- "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests". - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message