Oh, John, I am so sorry. This is my public apology. I guess it is difficult to use humor on the lists. Truely, I meant to be actually agreeing with you and trying to express my frustrations with humor. My niece once said to me, "there are 10,000 unemployed comedians, and you think you are FUNNY." The wisdom of youth. Please excuse me, I really feel dreadful that you are feeling badly. Genealogy is frustrating, and it sure ought to be enjoyable. Phoebe