This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XY.2ADE/428.1.1.3.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Ted: All that I have or have ever heard in the family was that the name is Zillmer or Zilmer. The book I told you about is: The Genealogy of Gottfried and Hannah Charlotte Butt Zilmer by Bernice Knief-Korpt, I think published in the 90's. I know there is a copy in the Boulder Historical Society or Boulder Library. It is very well done and has a lot of information on the Beckmans in it. Let me know if you can find a copy of it, you must have it for your records. Robert