This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/721.2.2 Message Board Post: George William Caldwell George William Caldwell of 1458 Kennedy Ave. in Louisville died Friday, July 9, at Avista Hospital. He was 74. On Aug. 6, 1918, in Vienna, Ill., he was born the son of George Hickman Caldwell and Myrie Jones Caldwell. He married Genevieve M. Andreasen on Aug. 24, 1940, in Clinton, IA. Mr. Caldwell, who has been a local resident since coming here from Elgin, Ill., in 1957, was a print operator for the Boulder Daily Camera for 17 years. He retired from the Camera in the mid-1970s and continued to work in local print shops. A former member of the First United Methodist Church in Boulder, Mr. Caldwell also served in the U.S. Army. Survivors include his wife of Louisville; two sons, Richard William Caldwell of Camdonton, Mo., and Randy Caldwell of Longmont; one brother, Dave Caldwell of Wisconsin; six grandchildren and one great-grandchild. He was preceded in death by one sister and two brothers. Private family memorial services will be held at a later date. Contributions may be made to the American Cancer Society, 1590 Broadway, Boulder, Colo. 80302. Crist Mortuary is handling the arrangements. _________________ >From the Boulder Daily Camera I realized after I got home that I forgot to put what date from the paper it came from. If you need that information for source citations, I can get it for you but it might be a few weeks until I can get back to the library. Sorry about that. Cari

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/741 Message Board Post: Hi, If you have an ancestor who was buried in the "Louisville Cemetery" but no one can find a record or tombstone there, don't despair. They were probably buried in the Old Louisville Cemetry, now known as the Superior Cemetery. This subject has come up before. But I just found in a file an old letter from a distant cousin. Hopefully this will provide some direction. >From : Dewey A. Dutton P.O. Box 306 Coupeville, WA 98239 19 Nov 1979 To : C David Knowles "...David Carlton...[is] buried in Louisville ; David is not in the present cemetery , but one out in the country in a little used spot. I was taken to his grave as a young boy , several times [c.1905]." I have obituaries from the "Boulder Camera" and recent email correspondence from Ms Polly Boyd (City of Louisville Department of Land Management BoydP@ci.louisville.co.us) that say the following three people were buried in the "Louisville Cemetery" but there is no record or tombstone for them in the "present" Louisville Cemetery. I therefore believe they are in unidentified graves in the Superior Cemetery. Thomas Carlton 1824 - 28 Jan 1892 Jane (McLean) Carlton 1818 - 9 December 1891 Wife of Thomas David Carlton 17 November 1848 - 20 June 1892 Son of Thomas & Jane Dewey A. Dutton was a grandson of David Carlton and I am a great-great-grandson of David Carlton. Regards, David Knowles

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/524.3 Message Board Post: Tish, >From another email, forwarded with the kind permission of sender : "the same book, Boulder Then and Now also has a copy of the March 22, 1902, subscribers' directory from The Colorado Telephone Co. Boulder County. It covers Boulder, Broomfield, Eldora, Eire, Lafayette, Longmont, Louisville, Lyons, Wall Street, and Ward (and fits on 2 pages!!). in reference to the inquiry for Vaughan - the directory lists one Vaughan under the Lafayette heading: Blk 653 Van DeBergh, J O., residence 18-b Van Deren Bros., groceries 18-a Vaughan, Thos., Haywood Mine perhaps a relation to Joseph?? After all, Baseline runs right through Lafayette." Regards, David

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/723.3 Message Board Post: Caitlin, I am forwarding, with the kind permission of the sender, part of an email I received. Regards, David "Regarding the inquiry about Tylers Rangers: (reference the same book) [reference the book "Boulder Then and Now" by J.B.Schoolland, copyright 1967] pg 108 contains a photo of a Capt. Tyler with the caption, "Capt. C. M. Tyler, A man of Varied Business Interests and a Hero of Many an Indian Raid." text: Captain C. M. Tyler married the daughter of Nelson K. Smith. Came to Colorado in 1860 in wagon drawn by oxen. Brought six-stamp ore mill. Next near brought back a saw mill. He, Smith and J.P. Maxwell operated saw mill on South Boulder Creek. Later, Tyler and Smith built Central City Toll Road (later the Boulder Canyon toll road) owned and operated it for a time. Tyler had a handsome land estate and died 1888. (Boulder Daily Camera)"

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/524.2 Message Board Post: Tish, I am forwarding, with the kind permission of the sender, part of an email I received. Regards, David "Regarding the inquiry about the Jimtown Stage: reference the book "Boulder Then and Now" by J.B.Schoolland, copyright 1967 pg 191 contains a picture taken in 1966 of a section of "old Jimtown" Stage route, above highway at the junction of Left Hand Canyon Road. Another (old) photo - complete w/driver and a caption of: "Jamestown and Springdale Stage, on N. Broadway, in Boulder. Mr. Walter Mallory, later Professor of Engineering at the University of Colorado, and his father, drove this stage on daily trips, one each way, from 1902 to 1906. Photo taken in front of Mallory five-acre home on the northwest corner of Broadway and Kalmia. This plot later became the home of the Sutherland Nurseries. (Photo, courtesy Professor Walter Mallory)" I found a site on the web that listed Colorado stage routes. The closest match is: "Boulder City to Altona, Springdale, and Jamestown by coach and four."

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/720.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sally, I am forwarding, with the kind permission of the sender, part of an email I received. It is a later period than you're looking for but thought it might be of interest. Regards, David "In 1942 President Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066 authorizing the Army to remove all persons of Japanese ancrestry from the west coast. People were taken to 'War Relocation Centers' in California and then shipped to camps in Arizona, Arkansas, Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado. Colorado had a very large camp in Amache (near Holly, Colorado) - nearly 10,000 persons. After the war most of the residents of the camp returned to California. About 2000 remained in Colorado. from the book 'Lafayette, Colorado History - Treeless Plain to Thriving City" Article submitted by Kumiko (Kate) Yoshihara. The Yoshihara family owns the Lafayette Florist on Public Rd., Lafayette."

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/721.2.1 Message Board Post: That is Great. Thank You so much. I would be very greatful if you lookied for George's When you go to the library marge

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/740 Message Board Post: Hi, Just reviewing some old notes and found this about the affect of business on towns. An editorial in the "Daily Camera" ("The Coal Problem" 7 June 1891 p.2) states the "mines have been a losing investment for the past two years" because the small market is greatly less than the capacity. The editorial suggests "the operators should organize" with a "monoploy" management that will force the railroads to better rates, markets will open, etc.,etc. And "the scheme has already been inaugurated by the United Coal Company." (The villians in an old family story). In the 18 May 1892 issue (page 1) the "Daily Camera" reports a "scoop." In an article titled "A Big Coal Combine" the paper reports that as of June 1st "United Coal Company would have control of the entire output of Northwestern Colorado coal." They had contracts with all of the mines for a fixed rate, fixed outputs and some "...owners [would be] paid for keeping shut down for five years." The article goes on to say this will in effect shut down the town of Langford. In the 3 June 1892 issue (page 1) is "The Big Coal Deal". It notes - "Poor old Langford. Once the banner coal camp of Northern Colorado...soon to be deserted." "The population is busy now moving to Louisville and Lafayette..." "Langford is dead but from it's ashes is coming forth the hustling and wide awake towns of Louisville and Lafayette." The 1895 Atlas ( http://www.livgenmi.com/1895.htm ) lists their populations as - Langford - 233 Louisville - 596 Lafayette - 410 What was it, just another 20 years and we get the Columbine Mine Massacre and Ludlow. United shouldn't have stolen that mine from my widowed ancestor. Regards, David

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CALDWELL, ANDREASEN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/721.2 Message Board Post: Genevieve M. Caldwell Nov. 28, 1918 - Aug 25, 2001 Genevieve M. Caldwell of Longmont died of natural causes on Saturday, Aug. 25, 2001. She was 82. The daughter of William Andreasen and Esther Harrison Andreasen, she was born Nov. 28, 1918, in Elburn, Ill. She married George W. Caldwell on Aug. 24, 1940. He died July 6, 1993. She worked as a secretary for Boulder County Head Start, the University of Colorado and Boulder County government. Mrs. Caldwell worked with women at the Village Place apartments making and selling crafts to benefit needy Longmont families. Survivors include two sons, Randy Caldwell of Longmont and Richard Caldwell of Camdenton, Mo.; five grandchildren; and three great-grandchildren. Services will be private. Erlinger Cremation & Funeral Services is in charge of arrangements. from The Boulder Daily Camera 28 Aug 2001 __________________________________ I happen to have the BDC obits from 1998 - 2001 at my house. However, for the George Caldwell obit I will be glad to look on Saturday when I am at the library. Hope this helps!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XY.2ADE/739 Message Board Post: NOTE-I am not related to this family Loveland Reporter Herald (Loveland, Larimer, Colorado) Tuesday July 22, 2003 page B-3 Dama “Lucy” Foos, 88, of Longmont died July 20, 2003, in Longmont. She is survived by Louise Allen and Bradley Dix of Loveland and many other relatives. She was born Oct. 18, 1914, in Gordon, Neb., to Basil and Dama Claire Lugenbeel. She married Edward Foos in Fort Morgan. Graveside services will be 2:30 p.m. Thursday at Memory Gardens in Fort Morgan. The Heer & Jolliffe Mortuary of Fort Morgan handled arrangements.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XY.2ADE/738 Message Board Post: NOTE-I am not related to this family Loveland Reporter Herald (Loveland, Larimer, Colorado) Thursday July 24, 2003 page B-4 Preifer (picture) Dorothy L. “Dottie” Pfeifer, 76, of Longmont and formerly of Berthoud, died July 21, 2003, at Boulder Community Hospital. She was born Dec. 22, 1926, in Hays City, Kan., to Valentine B. and Barbara Seitz Orth. She grew up and attended school in Hays and was baptized and confirmed in the Catholic Church. She married Vitus Pfeifer in Hays on Sept. 14, 1948. The couple moved to Colorado from Kansas in 1952. Mrs. Pfeifer worked for food service in the schools for 30 years. She served at schools in Lyons, Berthoud and Longmont and always enjoyed what she was doing. For the past couple of years she volunteered at the OUR Center in Longmont. She was a life member of the Ladies Auxiliary for both the Veterans of Foreign Wars and American Legion. She and her husband enjoyed traveling and visited many places in Mexico, Canada, the Caribbean, Puerto Rico and the United States. They also enjoyed dancing and went to polka and Dutch hop dances. The couple had lived part time in Arizona for a number of years. She loved to grow flowers and enjoyed many different kinds of crafts, including needlework, sewing, knitting and making anything that she saw and liked. She is survived by her husband, Vitus Pfeifer; four daughters, Sharon Eliasen and husband Dan of Berthoud, Phyllis Stewart and husband Norman of Bella Vista, Ark., Pam Cross and husband Jack of Rogers, Ark., and Jackie Wolf and husband Greg of Loveland; two brothers; two sisters; seven grandchildren; and five great-grandchildren. She was preceded in death by two sisters. A Mass of Christian Burial will be at 10 a.m. today at Guardian Angels Catholic Church in Mead, with the Rev. Robert Whipkey presiding. Burial will follow at Longmont Mountain View Cemetery. Memorial contributions can be made to the Dorothy Pfeifer Memorial Fund in care of First Community Bank, 600 Kimbark St., Longmont, 80501.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/737 Message Board Post: Hi, Would you please delete all but one of my post "Burke Dorsey Howard Archer" on 24 July. I am embarrassed to see that out there. Thanks, David Knowles

Oh, great ! Now they've moved on to selling cigarettes. <BG> > Here is additional information from Dick Eastman's Online Newsletter. > > > - Genealogy Scam Operator Arrested! > > Life just got more interesting for genealogy scam operator Elias Abodeely. > >

> Here is additional information from Dick Eastman's Online Newsletter. Yopu > are free to forward these articles on non-commercial lists, but please > include the following disclaimer: > The following article is from Eastman’s Online Genealogy Newsletter and is > copyright 2003 by Richard W. Eastman. It is re-published here with the > permission of the author. Information about the newsletter is available at > http://www.eogn.com. > > I highly recommend subscribing to this newsletter. > > -Isaiah > Isaiah Harrison > National Coordinator > The USGenWeb Project > An Unincorporated Non-Profit Association > > > - Genealogy Scam Operator Arrested! > Life just got more interesting for genealogy scam operator Elias Abodeely. > Four weeks ago I wrote a lengthy article about the scam best known as > GenSeekers.com and identified the owner as Elias Abodeely of Cedar Rapids, > Iowa. You can read that article at > http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0327.htm. This week the Cedar Rapids > police department arrested Abodeely and charged him with a variety of > crimes, including three felonies. If convicted, Elias Abodeely could serve > up to 47 years in prison for bilking genealogists. > Using the name GenSeekers.com as well as number of other Web site names, > Abodeely would send out thousands of "spam mail" messages claiming to have > access to millions of genealogy records. The hapless victim would pay about > $60 for this "service" and then be given access to a password-protected Web > site that simply listed links pointing to free genealogy Web sites. > GenSeekers.com and its other Web sites had no records of their own. Even > more upsetting, subscribers who tried to cancel and receive a refund found > that their e-mails bounced back as undeliverable. > According to police reports, Elias Abodeely II, age 22, of 340 Owen St. NW, > Cedar Rapids, was arrested on August 1 on suspicion of identity theft and > three felonies: first-degree theft, money laundering, and ongoing criminal > conduct. Police investigators claim Abodeely masterminded a 3-year > genealogy scam that netted at least $14,000 and between 220 and 260 victims > -- a handful of them from overseas. The total could be higher, but > investigators haven't added up everything yet, according to Cedar Rapids > Police Investigator Greg Koenighain. Abodeely was booked and released from > the Linn County Jail. > Abodeely's operation originally collected money via a PayPal account, but > PayPal soon shut him out after they received complaints. Abodeely then used > a variety of other methods of collecting payments by credit cards. When the > credit card companies shut him down, Abodeely switched to payment by > electronic checks. That worked well for the young swindler, as checks do > not enjoy the same protection as credit cards. Victims who paid by credit > card could obtain refunds from the credit card companies, if they asked. > However, those who paid by check had no recourse. > Abodeely and associates then reportedly conducted other crimes. The same > electronic checks were cashed time and again, with each new occurrence > using a new check number. The identity theft charge stems from an > accusation that Abodeely stole four women's Social Security numbers and > then used the numbers to establish new merchant accounts to process credit > card payments. > Elias Abodeely has been involved in other online scams, not involving > genealogy. He has promoted "get rich quick" business opportunities > promoting porno sites. Click here to see examples. > At least one of Abodeely's Web sites -- Genseekers.com -- is still > operating as these words are written, but officials expect to shut it down > soon. > In addition, the investigation is not yet complete. This week's arrest and > arraignment was by the local police department. The federal government also > has an interest in this case for possible income tax evasion, violation of > interstate commerce laws and more. Mr. Abodeely's legal problems are only > beginning. In addition, two of his accomplices are also facing possible > arrest, according to Investigator Koenighain. > You can read a bit more about this story at KWWL Television's news site at > http://www.kwwl.com/Global/story.asp?S=1386145 as well as at the Des Moines > Register's news site at: > http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4788998/21905604.html. The Cedar > Rapids Gazette has a longer story written by Public Safety Reporter > Christoph Trappe. However, you have to purchase a subscription before you > can read that article at: http://www.gazetteonline.com > What Do You Think? Comments and discussion are available on this > newsletter's Discussion Boards. > > - Comment about Genealogy Scams > For reasons that are not clear to me, genealogy seems to attract more than > its fair share of fast buck artists. The article about GenSeekers is > probably the most flagrant example I have heard of, complete with identity > theft and money laundering. However, we all have seen plenty of other > charlatans who peddle goods and services of questionable value. The late > and unlamented Halberts of Bath, Ohio, quickly pops to mind. They folded up > a few years ago, hounded by court actions and competition from the > Internet. However, Halberts' imitators are still in business in Colorado, > Ontario, and elsewhere. In many shopping malls you can also find pushcart > "businesses" claiming to sell "authentic" family coats of arms and other > such schlock on paper, t-shirts, coffee cups and key chains. Most of their > materials are bogus, not worth the paper (or key chain) that they are > printed on. > Then there is the Internet. Did you ever stop to think that there are > similarities between the World Wide Web and the Wild, Wild West? Not only > do the two phrases sound a lot alike, but they both are also full of fake > medicine men, snake oil salesmen, and other fast-buck characters of > disrepute. Simply look at the spam mail that you receive, claiming to sell > "medical cures and solutions" to make various parts of your body bigger or > smaller or to make you wealthy by using your computer to make money while > you sleep. Their ads seem to have been written by ex-carnival barkers. I > have a mental image of these people selling their products from the back > end of a horse-drawn wagon. > How do you protect yourself from these scam artists? The best advice hasn't > changed in centuries: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is! Be > suspicious. > Luckily, today's World Wide Web gives you more power than you ever had > before. If a company's claims are questionable, do a search on the Web to > see what the company's customers have said about it. If it is a > genealogy-related product or service, go to this newsletter's Web site at > http://www.eogn.com and search past newsletters. You can quickly find any > articles I have ever written about the company. Next, post a message on the > newsletter's Discussion Board at the same Web site and ask about the > company there. Chances are that someone knows about the company and will > respond to your query. > Finally, pay only by credit card. Never purchase by check, money order, or > cash. Credit cards are fully insured against fraud by the credit card > companies themselves. If you are scammed, the credit card companies will > issue a refund to you; then they will pursue the offending company for > reimbursement. Sadly, payments by check, money order, or cash have no > guarantees at all, as those who paid money to GenSeekers.com found out. > Last year at this time, I wrote similar words about a genealogy conference > in Dearborn, Michigan, that folded and disappeared just a few weeks before > the scheduled start of the conference. The organizers simply took the money > and closed their offices. Here again, those who had used credit cards to > pre-register quickly received 100% refunds from VISA, MasterCard, and > American Express. Those who paid by check, money order, or cash still have > not received a dime. > In short, verify the company's products or services before you spend money. > When you do decide to purchase, make sure that you use a payment method > that has fraud guarantees: use a credit card – not a check, money order, or > cash. This is a rule of thumb to follow in genealogy and everywhere else > that I can think of. > What Do You Think? Comments and discussion are available on this > newsletter's Discussion Boards. > > >

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>SPECIAL EDITION: Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter > >The following "Special Edition" is being sent to subscribers to the Plus >Edition of Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter: > >I have written a number of times about a genealogy-related scam that >operates under a variety of names, including GenSeekers.com, >GenealogyGiants.com and more. In the July 7 edition of the newsletter, I >identified the owner/operator of this "business" as 21-year-old Elias >Abodeely of Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Since then, I have had conversations with >several people in Iowa about this "business." > >I can now report that earlier today the Cedar Rapids police department >arrested Elias Abodeely for his activities with GenSeekers.com and the >other Web sites he operates. > >KWWL television in Iowa is now reporting that Cedar Rapids Police have >made an arrest after a two year Internet crime investigation. The crimes >involved genealogy websites. Today police arrested Elias Abodeely II of >Cedar Rapids.. He faces four charges: 1st degree theft, identity theft, >money laundering, and ongoing criminal conduct. Police say they expect to >file charges against more suspects. > >Details are still developing. Keep an eye on the newsletter Discussion >Board at http://www.eogn.com for updates. I will also be writing about >this in the next newsletter. > >You can read my earlier article at http://www.eogn.com/archives/news0327.htm. > > - Dick Eastman >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Shoemaker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/735.1.1 Message Board Post: David, Thanks so much for the information. I had not been able to find Harry and Mable Shoemaker after the 1920 census or Vail. I would have never thought that Harry had also changed the spelling of his last name. I never thought to use the soundex while I was looking for them. Again thanks so much for your help. Rema

I just found this on the internet and thought some of you might be interested. "The Lafayette Public Library and the Lafayette Miners Museum have collaborated to make historical photographs from their respective collections available on the Internet. With the help of a grant from the Colorado Digitization Project more than 350 photographs of local interest were digitized so they can be viewed online. This statewide project also provides access to additional historical photographs from around Colorado." http://www.rootsweb.com/~collgs/Cemeteryphoto.html It is located on the Lafayette & Louisville Genealogy Society Website. http://www.rootsweb.com/~collgs/index.html Pauli Smith - Boulder County GenWeb Coordinator "We are all destined for greatness. We must sing of our lessons and truths. Find the tune and the song will follow." ~Unknown~

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/735.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I'm not related to them. I have a subscription here and they have the census images and some are indexed. I found Harry Shoemaker in 1920 in Longmont, Boulder County in ED26 on page 11A ; it was taken on the 16th & 17th of Jan. It looks like they are on Coffman Street. Shoemaker...Harry..rents..age 37..born Kansas..father born Indiana..mother Indiana.."Supt. City Waterwoks" Mable..wife..age 35..born Kansas..Indiana..Illinois Vail..son..age 12..born Colorado..in school 1930 got kind of interesting. I found a Vail Shoemaker in Ohio but he wasn't this one. How many people named "Vail Shoemaker" can there be ? It doesn't look like any relationship but you may want to keep this tucked away in your notes just in case. It was in ED28, Belle Center, Logan, Ohio (page 5B). Shoemaker Jerry H...60 Etta M...wife..55 Vail,,son..32 [looks like] Belva..daughter-in-law..23 Thelma..granddaughter..5 Donald..grandson..3 They and all parents born Ohio. Had trouble finding Harry & Vail in 1930. Then I used the soundex on the index and they are now "Shumaker." Checked a few sites I know ( http://hollyhockfarms.com/coboulder/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~collgs/ http://icris.co.boulder.co.us/documentSearch.jsp ) and apparently that is their prefered modern spelling. Harry and Mabel are now in ED35 Wellington, Larimer County (page 3B), taken 4 April. Shumaker Harry F...rents..48..married at age 22..Kansas..Indiana..Indiana..Wholesaler Continental Oil Co. "Mabel M."..wife..45..married at 19..Kansas.."Illinois" [1920=Indiana]...Illinois Vail is in Longmont, Boulder County ED53 page 9A and it was taken on 10 April. They are on Coffman Street ; may be the same house. Shumaker Vail F...rents..23..married at 18..Colorado..Kansas..Kansas..Electrican [for] City Bessie G...wife..22..17..Colorado..Illinois..Missouri Shirley M...daughter..4 6/12..Colorado Helen F...daughter..3 2/12..Colorado The other records were pretty skimpy so I suspect they moved on from Boulder County. In fact the SSDI has a Vail Shumaker who died in Pueblo County. Hope it helps, David

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SHOEMAKER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XY.2ADE/735 Message Board Post: I am looking for descendants of Harry F. and Marie Mable HOWELL SHOEMAKER. Any information is greatly appreciated. Rema Cole rcole32@cox.net