Hello- To all those that I sent the photo to, please let me know if you successfully opened it. There are two people who are having trouble doing just that and I want to make sure that there are not other frustrated people out there. :-) To those of you who have written and thanked me, you are most welcome! Thank you, Jean

----- Original Message ----- From: <JEANFAZZ@aol.com> To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:18 AM Subject: [COBLE] Photo/Jacob Kobel > Hello- > To all those that I sent the photo to, please let me know if you successfully > opened it. There are two people who are having trouble doing just that and I > want to make sure that there are not other frustrated people out there. :-) > To those of you who have written and thanked me, you are most welcome! > Thank you, > Jean > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

For those researching in Orange County, lots of Cobles in this census index. Jean http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nc/orange/census/oran1840.txt

Peggy gathered this information together and, with her permission, I am passing it on to this list. I makes reference to Barbara SUMMERS' connection to Anthony COBLE of Rock Castle County, KY. Diana ddavis@logicsouth.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Bruckner" <bruckner@mindspring.com> To: "Diana Davis" <ddavis@logicsouth.com> Cc: "Ianthia Gerringer LaMarr (NC)" <Kemjan@aol.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [COBLE] Anna Maria EMIG v. Maria Barbara SUMMERS > Hi Diana, with the exception of her mention in Captain Peter's will, I have > only secondary info on this Barbara Summers. > > Captain Peter Summers' 1825 Will (names his daughter Barbara and references > the "Legacy" received from Anthony Coble in his Kentucky LWT): > > "6th: As to my daughter Barbara, I have advanced her in life with eleven > hundred and fifty dollars in money, and also in Stock, and other things > necessary for keeping house, and likewise two negroes, amounting in all to > twenty-two hundred and fifty dollars, making her equal to the rest of my > children. I now give her, in addition to what she has already received, all > the money, or Legacy, given to me by Anthony Coble, of Rock Castle County, > Kentucky in his last Will and Testament, And I do > hereby authorize and empower my said Executors of Mr. Coble, to give > receipts for, and hold the same to her own use. I give to my daughter > Barbara, one thousand dollars, to be paid to her in such sums as my > Executors may think her necessities shall require." > > I note there is no May 31, 1803 Guilford Marriage Bond for a Anthony Coble > to Barbara Summers, but the date is pretty precise -- so there must be a > bible or other record. The date for the marriage of this couple came from > Ianthia, so I'll defer to her for the source details. > > There is a Maria Barbara Summers among the unmarried female Friedens > Communicants for the 28 October 1802, who could be the Barbara Summers who > m. Anthony Coble , This may be where the "Maria Barbara Summers" name comes > from. > > Another source says Barbara Summers, daughter of Capt Peter was also married > to a John "Locie" Boon: > > ================ > Summers GenForum: > > Re: Cpt. Peter SUMMERS, Guilford Co, NC > Posted by: jodylin Date: January 02, 2000 at 21:43:20 > In Reply to: Re: Cpt. Peter SUMMERS, Guilford Co, NC by SHARON SCHLENKER > > Yes. You have the right Peter Summers, but I have it that he was b. 16 May > 1767 and d. 17 Aug 1835. I'm from the line of Peter's daughter Barbara > Summers who married John "Locie" Boon. > ================ > > I'm not familiar with any Emig family in NC. > > Peggy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diana Davis" <ddavis@logicsouth.com> > To: <Kemjan@aol.com>; <bruckner@mindspring.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 11:01 AM > Subject: Fw: [COBLE] Anna Maria EMIG v. Maria Barbara SUMMERS > > > > We are having an ongoing discussion on the COBLE/KOBEL list about who > > Maria Barbara SUMMERS was married to. Can you help? or have I asked > > this before? > > > > Diana ddavis@logicsouth.com > > My Genealogy site updated 9/10/2000: http://www.my-ged.com/davis/ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charles and Patsy Nesbit" <patcha@bellsouth.net> > > To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 11:54 AM > > Subject: Re: [COBLE] Anna Maria EMIG v. Maria Barbara SUMMERS > > > > > > > Thank you for your interest and effort in this matter. I am > > descended from > > > this line and I have information gathered from the internet that he > > was > > > married to Anna Maria Emig and also have received information that > > he was > > > married to Maria Barbara Summers. Could he have had two wives? If > > so, who > > > was the mother of his children. I am descended from his child, > > David, and > > > his grandson, Samuel. Thank you trying to clarify this matter. I > > am new to > > > genealogy research. P. Nesbit > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: <JEANFAZZ@aol.com> > > > To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 10:34 AM > > > Subject: [COBLE] Anna Maria EMIG v. Maria Barbara SUMMERS > > > > > > > > > > Checking the LDS site at www.familysearch.org > > > > I found the following records for Anna Maria Emig. Both records > > have Anna > > > > Maria married to Antonius (Anthony) Coble/Kobel > > > > > > > > Ancestral file > > > > Anna Maria Emig > > > > http://familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp > > > > > > > > Doing the same search for Maria Barbara SUMMERS > > > > you will find that there are records for her baptism and marriage > > to > > > Antonius > > > > (Anthony) Coble/Kobel > > > > > > > > There seems to be an ongoing conflict. I would like to ask the > > members > > > who > > > > descend from this line, or anyone having information pertaining to > > these > > > two > > > > women, to please post to the lists > > > > their research data to try and resolve it. Please be sure to give > > the > > > > sources for all records. Let's hope that by doing this together > > we can > > > > discuss all aspects of the problem and find the answers. > > > > > > > > Jean > > > > Kobel and Coble list manager > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Bruckner" <bruckner@mindspring.com> To: "Diana Davis" <ddavis@logicsouth.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: Anna Maria EMIG v. Maria Barbara SUMMERS > Diana, the marriage date for Anthony Coble came from Brick Church Records - > transcribed by Rev. D. I. Offman. It reads: > > Anthony Coble, son of Anthony Coble, Sr. , and Maria Barbara Sommers, > daughter of Peter Sommers, were married May 31,1803. > > Also, Captain Peter Summers' 1825 Will (names his daughter Barbara and > references > the "Legacy" received from Anthony Coble in his Kentucky LWT): > > "6th: As to my daughter Barbara, I have advanced her in life with eleven > hundred and fifty dollars in money, and also in Stock, and other things > necessary for keeping house, and likewise two negroes, amounting in all to > twenty-two hundred and fifty dollars, making her equal to the rest of my > children. I now give her, in addition to what she has already received, all > the money, or Legacy, given to me by Anthony Coble, of Rock Castle County, > Kentucky in his last Will and Testament, And I do > hereby authorize and empower my said Executors of Mr. Coble, to give > receipts for, and hold the same to her own use. I give to my daughter > Barbara, one thousand dollars, to be paid to her in such sums as my > Executors may think her necessities shall require." > > I do not know the basis, but another source says Barbara Summers, > daughter of Capt Peter was also married to a John "Locie" Boon: > > ================ > Summers GenForum: > > Re: Cpt. Peter SUMMERS, Guilford Co, NC > Posted by: jodylin Date: January 02, 2000 at 21:43:20 > In Reply to: Re: Cpt. Peter SUMMERS, Guilford Co, NC by SHARON SCHLENKER > > Yes. You have the right Peter Summers, but I have it that he was b. 16 May > 1767 and d. 17 Aug 1835. I'm from the line of Peter's daughter Barbara > Summers who married John "Locie" Boon. > ================ > > I'm not familiar with any Emig family in NC. > > Peggy

Probably should have identified Jacob, but since he is so "famous" :-) I neglected to tell you that he is the Jacob Kobel 1682-1731 who arrived in America in 1710 from the Palatine and married Anna Maria. Jean

I have a color photograph of a plaque commemorating the Bicentennial of Cobleskill, N. Y. and honoring Jacob Kobel. I will be happy to send this to anyone who would like a copy. Rootsweb does not allow attachments sent, so just send an email to me at JEANFAZZ@aol.com Please put Jacob Kobel in the subject line. I will wait until I accumulate a few takers so you may not receive it for a several days. Enjoy! Jean Kobel and Coble list manager

I have spent a good deal of time today going through my paper files trying to find additional information on Antonius Coble who married Anna Maria EMIG and Anthony Coble who married Barbara SUMMERS and I have so further information to offer. But, if you read Diana and Zelma's message I believe that they had answered your questions. There are two Anthony Coble's. One born in 1717 and one born in 1788. I did a quick check on www.worldconnect.rootsweb.com for EMIG and SUMMERS and found much information there. EMIG http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi SUMMERS http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=rotert6&id=I2970 Be sure to click on the Ahenetafel report at the bottom of the page for this one. Takes you back many generations. For Henry Clay COBLE, go to http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi Jannine-you said that you have Henry Clay Coble as the s/o Adam Coble and Maria Polly Summers of Lincoln County, TN. Can you tell us what you have and references to your information so that those interested in this line can be helped? I do hope that this helps. Jean Kobel and Coble list manager

For those of you who have this line..... http://www.my-ged.com/db/page/milukas/5464 Jean

Jannine, I also have HENRY CLAY COBLE as son of ADAM 'ANTHONY' COBLE and MARIA ' "POLLY' BARBARA SUMMERS of Lincoln County, Tn. Mary E.

Jean, I have ADAM GEORG COBLE , b.1727, Baden, Ger. was the younger brother of ANTONIUS 'ANTHONY' COBLE, B. 1717. ADAM GEORGE , 1727,m. Anna Margaretha Loffel-Spoon, May 13, 1754, in Lancaster, Pa. Their 7th child was ADAM COBLE, b.1768, Orange Co., NC. This ADAM 'ANTHONY' COBLE, 1768, married MARIA BARBARA SUMMERS, who was born May 28, 1788, therefore she could not have married Antonius Coble in 1740. This is from LDS FILE on the net. Mary E. (Coble Granddaughter) My grandmother was Letha Ann Coble, daughter of HENRY BONAPARTE COBLE, granddaughter of HENRY CLAY COBLE, (B. dEC. 16, Lincoln Co. Tn.), gggrandaughter of ADAM ' ANTHONY COBLE & MARIA BARBARA SUMMERS.

I have received some very positive feedback from list members regarding the recommendations set by NGS for sound genealogical research. Thank you for your comments. Genealogy is a serious business. Hearsay is dangerous as it only perpetuates inaccurate facts, proof is essential. Let's set our own standards for posting to this list. Please, always include your sources when offering information. Where did the information come from? Census records; LDS library; published birth, death and marriage records; immigration records; published family histories; or secondary sources such as websites. Whatever the source, be sure to give it. When replying to someone's post do not hit the reply tab. Address a new message, place the subject in the subject line and if necessary copy and paste the subject of the message in the body of the message area. Each and every message is archived so it is important that the subject line reflects the message. By hitting the reply button the original message is repeated over and over, wasting valuable storage space in the Rootsweb archives. Thank you, Jean Kobel and Coble list manager

Thank you for your interest and effort in this matter. I am descended from this line and I have information gathered from the internet that he was married to Anna Maria Emig and also have received information that he was married to Maria Barbara Summers. Could he have had two wives? If so, who was the mother of his children. I am descended from his child, David, and his grandson, Samuel. Thank you trying to clarify this matter. I am new to genealogy research. P. Nesbit ----- Original Message ----- From: <JEANFAZZ@aol.com> To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 10:34 AM Subject: [COBLE] Anna Maria EMIG v. Maria Barbara SUMMERS > Checking the LDS site at www.familysearch.org > I found the following records for Anna Maria Emig. Both records have Anna > Maria married to Antonius (Anthony) Coble/Kobel > > Ancestral file > Anna Maria Emig > http://familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp > > Doing the same search for Maria Barbara SUMMERS > you will find that there are records for her baptism and marriage to Antonius > (Anthony) Coble/Kobel > > There seems to be an ongoing conflict. I would like to ask the members who > descend from this line, or anyone having information pertaining to these two > women, to please post to the lists > their research data to try and resolve it. Please be sure to give the > sources for all records. Let's hope that by doing this together we can > discuss all aspects of the problem and find the answers. > > Jean > Kobel and Coble list manager > > > > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

Checking the LDS site at www.familysearch.org I found the following records for Anna Maria Emig. Both records have Anna Maria married to Antonius (Anthony) Coble/Kobel Ancestral file Anna Maria Emig http://familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Doing the same search for Maria Barbara SUMMERS you will find that there are records for her baptism and marriage to Antonius (Anthony) Coble/Kobel There seems to be an ongoing conflict. I would like to ask the members who descend from this line, or anyone having information pertaining to these two women, to please post to the lists their research data to try and resolve it. Please be sure to give the sources for all records. Let's hope that by doing this together we can discuss all aspects of the problem and find the answers. Jean Kobel and Coble list manager

Someone put out that Henry Clay was the son of Anthony Coble and Barbara Summers Jannine Coble Gregory ----- Original Message ----- From: hdbryant1 <hdbryant1@netzero.net> To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [COBLE] Re: COBLE-D Digest V00 #38 > Jannine, > > When was your "Adam" Coble born and was he born in Lincoln Co, TN? > > Thanks, > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jannine Coble Gregory" <Jannine@ix.netcom.com> > To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: [COBLE] Re: COBLE-D Digest V00 #38 > > > | I would like to know how you came up with this. I have Henry Clay Coble as > | the s/o Adam Coble and Maria "Polly" Summers of Lincoln County, Tn > | Jannine Coble Gregory > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: <mrojscw@juno.com> > | To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> > | Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 10:01 AM > | Subject: [COBLE] Re: COBLE-D Digest V00 #38 > | > | > | > Hello, Fellow Coble Researchers, I think I have established for > | > certain that my ggGrandfather was HENRY CLAY COBLE, son of ADAM > | > 'ANTHONY' COBLE and MARIA BARBARA SUMMERS, daughter of Capt. Peter > | > Summers of GUILFORD CO. N.C. There is much controversy on the > | > COBLE digest about the parents of ADAM "ANTHONY" COBLE. From my research > | > I have come to believe that he was NOT the son of ANTHONY 'ANTONIUS' > | > COBLE, b. l7l7, but was probably the son of ADAM GEORGE COBLE, b.1727 > | > in Ger. d.in Tenn. m. ANNA MARGARETHA LOFFEL 'SPOON' IN Pa. Can anyone > | > assure me that this is correct? Mary E. (Coble Granddaughter) > | > > | > > | > ============================== > | > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > | > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > | > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > | > > | > | > | ============================== > | Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > | Source for Family History Online. Go to: > | http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > | > | > | > > > ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ > Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 > ___________________________________________________________ > > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp >

Did Johannes Georg KOBEL happen to come over with 7 brother's to America. There is tell that in the Levi Jackson Coble family that 7 brothers come over from Germany. Thanks for your quick response. Rhonda Crager Coble www.heavensound.com/artist/coble.htm

Hi Rhonda, This is Lil. I would love to see your web site. I just tried your URL below and got this message: Lil ----- An error occurred while processing your request. Error Information Error Message: File not found Error Code: -9984 Action: nothing Database: -- Table/Layout: -- Response: /artist/~coble.htm Client Address: 165.227.130.122 Client IP: 165.227.130.122 Client Type: Mozilla/4.73 [en] (Win98; U) Server Date: Saturday, October 28, 2000 Server Time: 12:25:26 AM ------------------------- > Did Johannes Georg KOBEL happen to come over with 7 brother's to > America. There is tell that in the Levi Jackson Coble family that 7 > brothers come over from Germany. > > Thanks for your quick response. > > Rhonda Crager Coble > www.heavensound.com/artist/coble.htm > > ============================== > Search over 600 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/search

I have that Antonius Kobel b. 1717 married Anna Maria Emig between 1740 and 1742 in Lancaster , Pa. In his will he refers to his wife as Eve Coble. Does anyone know for sure who Antonius wife was? Zelma ----- Original Message ----- From: <JEANFAZZ@aol.com> To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:09 PM Subject: [COBLE] Johan Georg/Antonius/Georg Adam > Mary- > > I hope that I can be of help. I send this information with a gentle > warning....this is not my own personal research, but that of other > Kobel/Coble researchers that have sent me records of various family lines. > > Johannes Georg KOBEL > born 4 Jun 1693 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim Baden, Germany > Married: 13 May 1716 Hoffenheim, Baden, Germany > Died: 22 Feb 1765 PA. > Arrived from England on the ship "Hope" 28 Aug 1733 > Wife: Maria Barbara Geisler, born ca 1695 > in Hoffenheim, Baden Germany > > They had 12 children all born in Baden, with the exception of their last > child who was born in York Co. PA in 1734. > > Their first born was Antonius (Anthony) KOBEL > born 24 Aug 1717 Hoffensheim, Sinsheim, Baden, Germany > Died: 1793 Guilford, Co. N.C. > His will is dated 24 May 1794 Guilford, N.C. > He was naturalized 22 Mar 1763 in N.C. > Married: 1740 to Maria Barbara Summers born ca 1720 N.C. > > Their eighth child was Georg Adam KOBEL > born 13 Apr 1727 Baden, Germany > died 1774 --no further information > > Sources given: > 18th Century Emigrants of the Northern Kraichgau Vol. 1 > Lancaster Births 1723-1777 page 187 > Rhineland Emigrants pg 70-71 > York County Church Records of the 18th Century Vol. 2 pg.127 > Early Settlers of York County pg 311 > > Jean > Kobel and Coble list manager > > > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Mary- I hope that I can be of help. I send this information with a gentle warning....this is not my own personal research, but that of other Kobel/Coble researchers that have sent me records of various family lines. Johannes Georg KOBEL born 4 Jun 1693 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim Baden, Germany Married: 13 May 1716 Hoffenheim, Baden, Germany Died: 22 Feb 1765 PA. Arrived from England on the ship "Hope" 28 Aug 1733 Wife: Maria Barbara Geisler, born ca 1695 in Hoffenheim, Baden Germany They had 12 children all born in Baden, with the exception of their last child who was born in York Co. PA in 1734. Their first born was Antonius (Anthony) KOBEL born 24 Aug 1717 Hoffensheim, Sinsheim, Baden, Germany Died: 1793 Guilford, Co. N.C. His will is dated 24 May 1794 Guilford, N.C. He was naturalized 22 Mar 1763 in N.C. Married: 1740 to Maria Barbara Summers born ca 1720 N.C. Their eighth child was Georg Adam KOBEL born 13 Apr 1727 Baden, Germany died 1774 --no further information Sources given: 18th Century Emigrants of the Northern Kraichgau Vol. 1 Lancaster Births 1723-1777 page 187 Rhineland Emigrants pg 70-71 York County Church Records of the 18th Century Vol. 2 pg.127 Early Settlers of York County pg 311 Jean Kobel and Coble list manager

Jannine, When was your "Adam" Coble born and was he born in Lincoln Co, TN? Thanks, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jannine Coble Gregory" <Jannine@ix.netcom.com> To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [COBLE] Re: COBLE-D Digest V00 #38 | I would like to know how you came up with this. I have Henry Clay Coble as | the s/o Adam Coble and Maria "Polly" Summers of Lincoln County, Tn | Jannine Coble Gregory | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: <mrojscw@juno.com> | To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 10:01 AM | Subject: [COBLE] Re: COBLE-D Digest V00 #38 | | | > Hello, Fellow Coble Researchers, I think I have established for | > certain that my ggGrandfather was HENRY CLAY COBLE, son of ADAM | > 'ANTHONY' COBLE and MARIA BARBARA SUMMERS, daughter of Capt. Peter | > Summers of GUILFORD CO. N.C. There is much controversy on the | > COBLE digest about the parents of ADAM "ANTHONY" COBLE. From my research | > I have come to believe that he was NOT the son of ANTHONY 'ANTONIUS' | > COBLE, b. l7l7, but was probably the son of ADAM GEORGE COBLE, b.1727 | > in Ger. d.in Tenn. m. ANNA MARGARETHA LOFFEL 'SPOON' IN Pa. Can anyone | > assure me that this is correct? Mary E. (Coble Granddaughter) | > | > | > ============================== | > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: | > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. | > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com | > | | | ============================== | Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 | Source for Family History Online. Go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB | | | ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________

I would like to know how you came up with this. I have Henry Clay Coble as the s/o Adam Coble and Maria "Polly" Summers of Lincoln County, Tn Jannine Coble Gregory ----- Original Message ----- From: <mrojscw@juno.com> To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 10:01 AM Subject: [COBLE] Re: COBLE-D Digest V00 #38 > Hello, Fellow Coble Researchers, I think I have established for > certain that my ggGrandfather was HENRY CLAY COBLE, son of ADAM > 'ANTHONY' COBLE and MARIA BARBARA SUMMERS, daughter of Capt. Peter > Summers of GUILFORD CO. N.C. There is much controversy on the > COBLE digest about the parents of ADAM "ANTHONY" COBLE. From my research > I have come to believe that he was NOT the son of ANTHONY 'ANTONIUS' > COBLE, b. l7l7, but was probably the son of ADAM GEORGE COBLE, b.1727 > in Ger. d.in Tenn. m. ANNA MARGARETHA LOFFEL 'SPOON' IN Pa. Can anyone > assure me that this is correct? Mary E. (Coble Granddaughter) > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >