Jannine, please send me a copy of the picture of the church. Thank you. Teresa

This is also from the First Reform Church, this could be a brother of William Individual Summary - 13 Mar 2001 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: John GOBEL Sex: Male Individual Facts Marriages/Children 1. Barbara Children Barbara GOBEL (11 Jan 1760-) John GOBEL (16 Nov 1761-) Jannine Coble Gregory Austin, Texas Remember "where ever you go there you are"

Well, I was trying to copy a picture of the First Reformed Church and I guess the list will not let me do that and I can't send it as a file. If anyone wants to see it they will have to email me at jannine@ix.netcom.com Jannine Coble Gregory Austin, Texas Remember "where ever you go there you are"

Among the earliest of the German Reformed congregations organized in Pennsylvania was the one in Lancaster. Between 1709 and 1735 the immigration of Germans, Swiss and French into the county of Lancaster was very large. They were mainly exiles and refugees, fleeing from the intolerant religious persecutions that followed the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes in 1685, and adherents of the Reformed or Huguenotic faith. In 1736 these people felt themselves strong enough to organize a congregation and begin the erection of a church. Jannine Coble Gregory Austin, Texas Remember "where ever you go there you are"

This came from another list. A great aide in learning about migration routes from PA. into Ohio. Jean Here is the address of a website that explains the Indian trails in Pennsylvania. <A HREF="http://www.mcn.org/2/noel/Westmoreland/MigrationTrails.htm">Migration Trails In Early Pennsylvania</A> Here is an address for similar information for Ohio. <A HREF="http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maggieoh/pioneer.html">OHIO COUNTY INFO: Pioneer Migration Routes through Ohio</A> (Website information by Maggie Stewart Zimmerman, who coordinates many Ohio counties.) History of Ohio routes is on the website. Five major routes followed Indian trails and Revolutionary War routes. The following was posted on the Ohio County Info webpage. >From the book: Genealogical Research in Ohio (Page 19) by Kip Sperry email: <A HREF="mailto:Kip_Sperry@byu.edu">Kip_Sperry@byu.edu </A> WWW: <A HREF="http://reled.byu.edu/chist/sperry"> http://reled.byu.edu/chist/sperry</A> 1. by Lake Erie's shores and on Lake Erie 2.across western Pennsylvania 3.through southeastern Ohio to Marietta and up the Muskingum River 4.through southcentral Ohio and up the Scioto River 5. via Ohio River into Cincinnati and up the Great and Little Miami rivers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------- 1. People migrated from PA to OH if they could purchase land inexpensively from the U.S. government. Men who served long terms in the military were often given military warrants or grants of land for their service. The veteran could sell this land and use the money to purchase land elsewhere. ( If a veteran did not want to move, he could sell or trade his land.0 States east of the Mississippi River that are not in the original 13 colonies have land patents online. Search land patents at www.glorecords.blm.gov/ 2. Some people just "settled" on land that belonged to the government. They would purchase the land later. Some land was even given away if a family would build a cabin on the land and make a permanent home. A territory had to have a certain population before it could become a state. Land was opened for settlement when treaties were made with the Native Americans. Certain areas were considered "safe" for settlement. 3. In Ohio, the canal system connected the Ohio River with the Great Lakes. Farmers could get better prices for their crops when there was a good harvest. In the eastern part of Ohio, the canals followed (roughly) the Scioto River to the Ohio River. In the western part of Ohio, the canals followed the Miami River, connecting (roughly) Lake Erie to the Ohio River and then the Mississippi River. 3. In the mid-1800s, railroads were built. Most railroads were built with private funds from stockholders. There was fierce competition between small towns. If the main line railroad bypassed the town, the town would not grow. Smaller railroads connected small towns and villages to cities like Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati. Dayton and Springfield. <A HREF="http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maggieoh/Gwen/migration.htm">Ohio Migrations Map and Information</A>

While going over these records I have put together this family. Does anyone know how they connect? Individual Summary - 13 Mar 2001 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: William GOBEL Sex: Male Individual Facts Marriages/Children 1. Eve Children Elizabeth GOBEL (21 Jun 1754-) Maria Christina GOBEL (15 Jan 1757-) Henry GOBEL (6 Jun 1760-) Lewis GOBEL (23 Dec 1761-) Johann Jacob GOBEL (11 Feb 1764-) Sources 1. Pennsylvan German Church Records, 1729-1870 Jannine Coble Gregory Austin, Texas Remember "where ever you go there you are"

Hi Everyone- Please excuse this slightly off topic subject, but I wanted to share this with you. Last Tuesday my husband Jim and I were planning a brief get away to some warm sun, when another snow storm hit Connecticut and closed the airport at Hartford canceling our flight. Attempts to reschedule another flight on subsequent days failed and we resigned ourselves to being at home. We are having some renovations done to the exterior of our home which included replacing the attic windows. Last night in a heavy rain and wind storm, a new attic window which was not locked, blew open (it is the type that swings in for easy cleaning and swing in it did)! At 4:30 a.m., we hear the sound of plop, plop, plop, (notice that I did not say drip). Jumping out of bed to find water making its way through the ceiling to the second floor directly over my computer work area. Grabbing bath towels we attempted to mop up as much water as we could before any further damage could be done. This was a major leak! Hardest hit were my research books and fabric covered computer chair, but spared in the nick of time was the scanner, printer and computer and.....my paper files containing Coble/Kobel research which were spread out on the work space. As Jim continued to mop up and I used a hair dryer to dry my water logged books, we both realized how lucky we were to be at home when this happened. Had we been away, we would not have returned until tomorrow and the storm continued for another six hours so I can't imagine what kind of mess we could have had on our hands. Lucky us! I guess there is a reason for everything. Jean

Hi Jean is there a entry for Johann George Koble b. 1693 for his death or a will for him in your records? Zelma ----- Original Message ----- From: <JEANFAZZ@aol.com> To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 7:20 PM Subject: [COBLE] York County Church Records > Hi Everyone- > I own York County Church Records of the 18th Century > Volumes 1-3 > Lancaster County Church Records of the 18th Century Vol. 1 > Lancaster County Births 1723-1777 > Lancaster County Will Abstracts 1732-1785 > > If there is anything that I can look up for anyone please let me know. > > I feel out of the loop, when it comes to the question of Antonius/Anthony's > marriage. This is not my line. > Has anyone looked at the records for this man on Ancestry.com or > www.familysearch.com the Later Day Saints web site? > I did spend a few minutes there today and I think that you might find your > answer or just become more confused! > At the Ancestry.com site, you can email the submitter, perhaps by doing that, > and finding the source of the material, it may help. I wish that I could be > of some help here, but I have nothing to offer in terms of research that > would clear this up. We need a marriage record! > > Jean > > > ==== COBLE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: send a message to COBLE-L-request. Type unsubscribe in the subject line and message area > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

O.K. all you Anna Maria Emig fans. Gert has generously scanned and sent me pages containing the Emig family of York County information from her book "Early German Settlers of York Co., PA." It states: Anna Maria Emig b. July 6, 1723 and bapt. on July 8, 1723. She married Anthony Kobel no date Rootsweb does not allow files to be sent to the lists, but if you would like a copy of the 3 pages that pertain to the Emig family which includes information on Anna Maria Emig and Anthony Kobel and their son Johannes birth, please email me privately and I will send you the files. JEANFAZZ@aol.com Thank you so much Gert for your kindness. Jean

Hi Everyone- I own York County Church Records of the 18th Century Volumes 1-3 Lancaster County Church Records of the 18th Century Vol. 1 Lancaster County Births 1723-1777 Lancaster County Will Abstracts 1732-1785 If there is anything that I can look up for anyone please let me know. I feel out of the loop, when it comes to the question of Antonius/Anthony's marriage. This is not my line. Has anyone looked at the records for this man on Ancestry.com or www.familysearch.com the Later Day Saints web site? I did spend a few minutes there today and I think that you might find your answer or just become more confused! At the Ancestry.com site, you can email the submitter, perhaps by doing that, and finding the source of the material, it may help. I wish that I could be of some help here, but I have nothing to offer in terms of research that would clear this up. We need a marriage record! Jean

Hello, My Ohio Cobles are descended from the Johann Georg Kobel, Sr. b. 3 Oct 1656 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany that the group has been discussing lately. My line is from his son Jacob Kobel b. 1682 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim. Jacob is the brother of the Johann Georg Kobel, Jr. b. 4 Jun 1693 also discussed. Chip Coble My Coble line from Germany to NY to PA to OH is as follows: 10. Johann Georg Kobel, Sr. b. 3 Oct 1656 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany d. 1 Jun 1713 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany Father: Nicholaus Bernhard Kobel b. 28 Feb 1626/27 Nordlingen-Donauworth, Germany d. aft. 1655 Mother:? Wife: Eva Sonss/Sonsst b. abt. 1657 d. 1700 Children > 1. Friedrich Kobel 2. Peter Kobel 3. Philip Kobel 4. Paul Kobel b. abt. 1674 5. Christoph Kobel b. bef.1679 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany d. 13 May 1707 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany 6. Jacob Kobel b. 1682 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany d. Aug 1731 Womelsdorf, PA. (my line) 7. Johann Georg Kobel, Jr. b. 4 Jun 1693 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany d. 22 Feb 1765 Orange Co., NC. Second Wife: Maria Elisabeth Gilbert Children > 1. Maria “Polly” Kobel b. Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany 2. Johann Nicholaus Kobel b. 27 Jun 1701 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany 3. Magdalena “Molly” Kobel b. abt. 1703 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany 4. Mattheus Kobel b. 19 Jul 1708 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany 11. Jacob Kobel b. 1682 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany d. Aug 1731 Womelsdorf, PA. Father: Johann Georg Kobel b. 3 Oct 1656 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany d. 1 Jun 1713 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany Mother: Eva Sonns/Sonnst b. abt. 1657 d. 1700 Wife: Anna Maria b. 1684 Germany d. 1774 PA. Children > 1. (Son) b. 1709 Germany d. 1710 before arrival in America. 2. Maria Sybilla Kobel b. 1710 East Camp, Livingston Manor, Albany Co., NY. d. 24 Feb 1807 3. Johann Heinrich “Henry” Kobel b. 20 Jul 1712 Hunterstown Camp, Livingston Manor, Albany Co., NY. d. 16 Nov 1755 Tulpehocken Valley, Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. (my line) 4. Maria Barbara Kobel b. 1713-15 New Heidelberg, Schoharie, Albany Co., NY. 5. Johannes “Hans” Kobel b. abt. 1718 Cobleskill, NY. d. 1783 Heidelberg, Berks Co., PA. 6. Maria Angelica “Engel” Kobel b. 1720 Cobleskill, NY. 7. Anna Maria Catherine Kobel b. 1722 Cobleskill, NY. 8. Friedrich Christian “Gottfried” Kobel b. 1723 Cobleskill, NY. d. 1803 Heidelberg, Berks Co., PA. 9. Jacob Nicholas Kobel b. 1725 Tulpehocken Valley, Heidelberg Twp., Berks Co., PA. 10. Anna Elisabeth Kobel b. 1726 Tulpehocken Valley, Heidelberg Twp., Berks Co., PA. 12. Johann Heinrich “Henry” Kobel b. 20 Jul 1712 Hunterstown Camp, Livingston Manor, Albany Co., NY. killed 16 Nov 1755 in Kobel Indian Massacre Tulpehocken Valley, Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. Father: Jacob Kobel b. 1682 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Germany d. Aug 1731 Womelsdorf, PA. Mother: Anna Maria b. 1684 Germany d. 1774 PA. Wife: Maria Salome Hoffman killed 16 Nov 1755 in Kobel Massacre Children > 1. Johann Henrich “Henry” Kobel b. 1741 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. survived Kobel Massacre d. aft. 1790 Northumberland Co., PA. (my line) 2. Johann Friedrich Kobel b. 1743 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. survived massacre d. 1801 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. 3. (Daughter) b. 1744 survived massacre d.? 4. (Child) b. 1745 killed in massacre 16 Nov 1755 5. (Son) b. 1746 killed in massacre 16 Nov 1755 6. (Child) b. 1747 killed in massacre 16 Nov 1755 7. (Daughter) b. 1749 survived massacre d.? 8. Johann Jacob Kobel b. 2 Nov 1755 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. survived massacre d. 1808 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. 13. Johann Henrich “Henry” Kobel b. 1741 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. survived Kobel Massacre d. aft. 1790 Northumberland Co., PA. Father: Johann Heinrich “Henry” Kobel b. 20 Jul 1712 Hunterstown Camp, Livingston Manor, Albany Co., NY. killed 16 Nov 1755 in Kobel Indian Massacre Tulpehocken Valley, Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. Mother: Maria Salome Hoffman killed 16 Nov 1755 in Kobel Massacre Wife: Catherine Children > 1. Maria Kobel b. 28 May 1759 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. 2. Catherine Kobel b. 1760 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. 3. Maria Magdalena “Elizabeth” Kobel b. 30 Jun 1762 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. d. 28 Oct 1850 Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA. 4. Johann Friedrich “Frederick” Kobel b. 3 Jun 1764 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. d. 14 May 1837 Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA. 5. Christian Kobel b. 1765 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. d. 4 Oct 1830 Wayne Co., OH. (my line) 6. Catherine Juliana Kobel b. 1766 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. 7. Magdalena Kobel b. 1768 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. 8. Johannes Kobel b. 16 Sep 1773 Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA. 9. Elizabeth Kobel b. 30 Jul 1775 Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA. 14. Christian Kobel, Sr. b. 1765 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. d. 4 Oct 1830 Wayne Co., OH. Father: Johann Henrich “Henry” Kobel b. 1741 Bethel Twp., Berks Co., PA. survived Kobel Massacre d. aft. 1790 Northumberland Co., PA. Mother: Catherine Wife: Catherine Roth b. 22 Feb 1766 d. 13 Jan 1860 Wayne Co., OH. Children > 1. Mary Catherine Kobel b. 21 Jun 1791 PA. d. 13 Nov 1852 Wayne Co., OH. 2. Catherine Kobel 3. Elizabeth Kobel 4. Johann Heinrich ”Henry” Kobel b. 12 May 1798 Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA. 5. Magdalena Kobel b. 20 Nov 1800 Mahanoy Twp., Northumberland Co., PA. 6. Susan Kobel 7. Sally Kobel 8. Christian Kobel, Jr. b. 20 Jun 1808 Huntingdon Co., PA. d. abt. 1892 (my line)

I don't understand this is what I sent Coble, Abraham Sp : Hoover, Susannah M : Jan 31, 1819 County : Montgomery Co. Abraham b 1798 Randolph County, NC. d 5-10-1842 Marion County, Ind Susan Hoover b 23 March 1800 NC d 3-23-1863 Marion County, Indiana Abraham was the son of Anthony B 1774 Guilford County, NC d 1846 Montgomery County, Ohio married Mary Maria Moretz Her name is Susannah Jannine Coble Gregory Austin, Texas Remember "where ever you go there you are" ----- Original Message ----- From: <TCoble7506@aol.com> To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [COBLE] ohio marrriages > Jannine, I have Abraham's wife listed as Susannah Hoover b. 1791 died March > 23, 1863. I have her as the daughter of Hannah Mast and Daniel Hoover. > Think this is the same person? > > Teresa Coble > > > ==== COBLE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: send a message to COBLE-L-request. Type unsubscribe in the subject line and message area > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 >

Jannine, I have Abraham's wife listed as Susannah Hoover b. 1791 died March 23, 1863. I have her as the daughter of Hannah Mast and Daniel Hoover. Think this is the same person? Teresa Coble

Additional marriages of the children of Abraham Coble (1790-1865) are: Abraham,Coble Jr. married second to Mary MILTENBERGER on 2 Dec 1854 in Elkhart, Indiana. Abraham, Jr. paid in alimony to his first wife, Anna BARR, one dollar. Christian Coble married Elizabeth MYERS of Maryland on 12 Dec 1843 in Ashland County, Ohio. Christian remained in Ashland Co. Fanny (Frances) Coble married 1st Simon BOWMAN on 21 Nov 1856 in Elkhart, Indiana and second to Samuel GOSS on 10 Jan 1864 in Elkhart, Indiana Jean

Jean, I have Children of Abraham Coble marriages as Coble, Abraham married Anna Barr 1-21-1851 Richland County, Ohio Mary Ann married Noah Rarick 3-1-1855 Elkhart, Indiana Jacob married Hanna Neiswanger/Nysewonder 1-10-1864 Elkhart, Indiana Fanny married Samuel Goos 1-10-1864 Elkhart, Indiana Jannine Coble Gregory Austin, Texas Remember "where ever you go there you are" ----- Original Message ----- From: <JEANFAZZ@aol.com> To: <KOBEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 4:20 PM Subject: [KOBEL] Coble Marriages in Ohio > Thank you Chip for sending the list of Coble's married in Ohio 1789-1850. I > can identify the following, they are the children of Abraham Coble of > Franklin Co. PA. who migrated to Ashland Co. Ohio. > > Coble, Anna Sp : Whitright, Samuel > M : Nov 16, 1841 > County : Richland Co. > Sex : F > > Anna Coble is the daughter of Abraham Coble (1790-1865). Anna Nancy was born > 15 Apr 1821-died 22 Jan 1888 in Monroe Twsp., Allen Co., Indiana. Samuel > Whitright is my ancestor and his marriage to Anna Nancy Coble ties me into > the Coble line. > > Coble, Barbara Sp : Baker, Samuel > M : Mar 5, 1844 > County : Richland Co. > Sex : F > > Coble, Catharine Sp : Welty, Jacob > M : Oct 17, 1839 > County : Richland Co. > Sex : F > > Coble, Elizabeth Sp : Brookhart, John S. > M : Nov 27, 1849 > County : Ashland Co. > Sex : F Note: The spelling is actually Bruchart > > Coble, Margaret Sp : Huffman, Benjamin > M : Dec 7, 1850 > County : Ashland Co. > Sex : F Note: Hoffman > > Coble, Susannah Sp : Fikle, Emanuel > M : Aug 8, 1844 > County : Richland Co. > Sex : F Note: Fike > > Other children of Abraham Coble also married in Ohio during this time period, > but they don't seem to be included. > Can anyone identify any of the others listed? If so, please post to the list > and let's see if we can tie some of the families together. I would like to > know more about the Ohio Coble families, where they came from and who they > descend from. > > Jean > > > ==== KOBEL Mailing List ==== > Need help? Ask you friends on the KOBEL list! >

Coble, Abraham Sp : Hoover, Susannah M : Jan 31, 1819 County : Montgomery Co. Abraham b 1798 Randolph County, NC. d 5-10-1842 Marion County, Ind Susan Hoover b 23 March 1800 NC d 3-23-1863 Marion County, Indiana Abraham was the son of Anthony B 1774 Guilford County, NC d 1846 Montgomery County, Ohio married Mary Maria Moretz Jannine Coble Gregory Austin, Texas Remember "where ever you go there you are"

Thank you Chip for sending the list of Coble's married in Ohio 1789-1850. I can identify the following, they are the children of Abraham Coble of Franklin Co. PA. who migrated to Ashland Co. Ohio. Coble, Anna Sp : Whitright, Samuel M : Nov 16, 1841 County : Richland Co. Sex : F Anna Coble is the daughter of Abraham Coble (1790-1865). Anna Nancy was born 15 Apr 1821-died 22 Jan 1888 in Monroe Twsp., Allen Co., Indiana. Samuel Whitright is my ancestor and his marriage to Anna Nancy Coble ties me into the Coble line. Coble, Barbara Sp : Baker, Samuel M : Mar 5, 1844 County : Richland Co. Sex : F Coble, Catharine Sp : Welty, Jacob M : Oct 17, 1839 County : Richland Co. Sex : F Coble, Elizabeth Sp : Brookhart, John S. M : Nov 27, 1849 County : Ashland Co. Sex : F Note: The spelling is actually Bruchart Coble, Margaret Sp : Huffman, Benjamin M : Dec 7, 1850 County : Ashland Co. Sex : F Note: Hoffman Coble, Susannah Sp : Fikle, Emanuel M : Aug 8, 1844 County : Richland Co. Sex : F Note: Fike Other children of Abraham Coble also married in Ohio during this time period, but they don't seem to be included. Can anyone identify any of the others listed? If so, please post to the list and let's see if we can tie some of the families together. I would like to know more about the Ohio Coble families, where they came from and who they descend from. Jean

I have a very good database now on the Coble's of various spellings 1790,1800,1810,1820,1830,1840 census and I am working on putting the 1850 census in a database. I also have marriages in a searchable database, so I am saying all this to tell you I would be happy to do look ups for you Thanks I am so happy that so many of you are researching and joining the list Jannine Coble Gregory Austin, Texas Remember "where ever you go there you are"

I offer this information with caution. Please use it only as a guide to further prove/disprove the line of Johann Georg Kobel. This comes from a letter written in 1988 to a Coble genealogy cousin of mine. I do not know the writer nor her sources. It was written in an attempt to see if our Coble/Kobel line somehow "fit" into the line of Johan Georg. It turns out that it doesn't, we do not descend from this line. So, here are portions of the letter that pertain to Johann Georg as written. "The line begins with a Hans Bernhard Kobel (Goble) born around 1630 in the Holy Roman Empire (area now in southern portion of West Germany). He m. an "Anna Maria" (surname not yet known). He was a lawyer. Among others they had a son named Hans Georg Gobel, baptized 3 Dec 1656 at Hoffenheim in the Bishopric of Speyer (H.R.E.) He m. (1) Eva Sonss at Hoffenheim, m. (2) 20 Jul 1700 at Hoffenheim, Maria Elizabetha Gilbert. He died -- May 1713 at Hoffenheim. He was a court counselor. Among others, Hans Georg and Eva (wife #1) had 2 sons who came to Pennsylvania: (by wife #1 he had 10 children but only 2 we know of who came to America). A. Jacob KOBEL b. 1682 Hoffenheim, Bishopric of Speyer B. Johann Georg KOBEL (Gobel) bap. 4 Jun 1693 Hoffenheim, Bishopric of Speyer. By his 2nd wife, Maria Elizabetha Gilbert, he had 4 additional children. We know for certain at least one came over at a later date. He is: C. Johann Nicholas KOBEL b. 27 Jun 1701 Hoffenheim, Bish. Speyer. Jacob Kobel (A.) married a girl named "Anna Maria" in 1708 in Hoffenheim, and in 1710 Jacob and Anna Maria emigrated. They were in a repatriation camp for some time at Nutting. Their first baby, b. ca 1709, d. there at Nutting. In 1711 they were at Livingston Manor, East Camp. Later (by 1714) they moved on to Schoharie, New York. They were there for some time, until about 1726 or so, when they migrated down to Tulpehocken Twsp. in Berks Co. PA. I am told that there are quite a number of Cobles who descend from this Jacob. He did NOT migrate south, in fact, I don't believe any of his immediate descendant lines went to No. Carolina. (Listed are their 10 children, I will not list them as they are already well documented. Jean) Johann Georg Kobel/Gobel (B.) is the younger brother of Jacob (A.). This Johann Georg came over in 1733. We have him well-documented on both sides of the "pond". He and his family came to Phil. in 1733 and settled in Lancaster area of Lancaster Co. then later to Hanover which after 1749 was in York Co. Around 1750 and on to 1760 or so, all of Johann Georg's married sons left PA. and relocated in Guilford and Alamance Co.'s NC. In PA. and in Hoffenheim this branch always spelled it GOBEL. It wasn't until virtually 1800 that they got all the NC descendant branches to use COBLE. I know of NO male descendant line of Johann Georg GOBEL (B.) that stayed in PA. Johann Nicholas Kobel (C.) came over in 1752, stayed only briefly in York Co. PA. then south to Guilford County with half-brothers." END As we discussed on this list, Johann Georg (B.) emigrated 28 Aug 1733 on the Ship Hope. All of his 12 children were born in Hoffenheim, with the exception of his last born child Johannes who was born 28 Aug 1734 in York Co. PA. Johannes died 1791 in Shrewsbury Twsp. York Co. PA. Johann Georg (B.)1693-1765 married Maria Barbara GEISLER, b ca 1695 in Hoffenheim. It is Johann Georg's son Antonius/Anthony Kobel, born 24 Aug 1717 Hoffenheim, that my notes show married Maria Barbara Summers, b ca 1720 in Guilford, N.C. This is not my line and I have no proof of the marriage to Summers. Does anyone know if a marriage record has been found for Antonius/Anthony in North Carolina? That would give you the needed proof and put an end to the question of......who did Anthony marry! Jean

Jennifer, David Speicher mentioned here. He married the sister of my Christian Kobel, Jr. Also, I am a descendant of Christian Kobel, Sr. b. 1765. I know that his wife Catherine (Roth) Kobel was buried at the Lehman Cemetary. Do you know whether or not Christian is there as well? What other Kobel's are buried there? Thank you, Chip Coble Marriage Index: Ohio, 1789-1850 Coble, Abraham Sp : Hoover, Susannah M : Jan 31, 1819 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : M Coble, Abraham Sp : Spoon, Catharine M : Mar 12, 1840 County : Perry Co. Sex : M Coble, Alexander Sp : Williamson, Sarah M : May 21, 1845 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : M Coble, Alexander Sp : Hutchens, Matilda Jane M : Oct 3, 1847 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : M Coble, Andrew Sp : Crone, Magdalena M : Dec 30, 1845 County : Richland Co. Sex : M Coble, Anna Sp : Hill, John M : Nov 9, 1816 County : Preble Co. Sex : F Coble, Anna Sp : Whitright, Samuel M : Nov 16, 1841 County : Richland Co. Sex : F Coble, Anthony Sp : Swallow, Susan M : Mar 26, 1835 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : M Coble, Ariel Sp : Stone, Emilene M : Nov 24, 1836 County : Portage Co. Sex : M Coble, Barbara Sp : Sandborn, Henry C. M : Mar 26, 1840 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Barbara Sp : Baker, Samuel M : Mar 5, 1844 County : Richland Co. Sex : F Coble, Caroline Sp : Jeffries, John D. M : Mar 27, 1848 County : Darke Co. Sex : F Coble, Catharine Sp : Welty, Jacob M : Oct 17, 1839 County : Richland Co. Sex : F Coble, Cyrenia Sp : Moore, Andrew M : Dec 12, 1850 County : Darke Co. Sex : F Coble, Dolly Sp : Bear, Jacob M : Mar 7, 1839 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Elizabeth Sp : Green, Andrew M : Aug 7, 1834 County : Darke Co. Sex : F Coble, Elizabeth Sp : Brookhart, John S. M : Nov 27, 1849 County : Ashland Co. Sex : F Coble, Emanuel Sp : Gallahan, Rachel M : Jan 8, 1811 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : M Coble, Eve Sp : Cloyd, Stephen M : Oct 10, 1847 County : Darke Co. Sex : F Coble, Hannah Sp : Cox, Joshua M : Mar 5, 1807 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Jacob Sp : Sterling, Jane M : Dec 18, 1838 County : Jefferson Co. Sex : M Coble, John Sp : Ellis, Anna M : May 25, 1815 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : M Coble, John Sp : Garrison, Rebecca M : Apr 14, 1839 County : Perry Co. Sex : M Coble, John Sp : Rower, Sarah M : Nov 24, 1846 County : Franklin Co. Sex : M Coble, Margaret Sp : Nickison, Joseph M : Sep 19, 1819 County : Franklin Co. Sex : F Coble, Margaret Sp : Waymire, John M : Feb 12, 1833 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Margaret Sp : Kessler, Godfrey M : Apr 29, 1841 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Margaret Sp : Huffman, Benjamin M : Dec 7, 1850 County : Ashland Co. Sex : F Coble, Martha Sp : Myers, David M : Dec 7, 1832 County : Wayne Co. Sex : F Coble, Mary Sp : Potter, John M : Aug 26, 1830 County : Darke Co. Sex : F Coble, Mary Sp : Roof, Tobias M : Jan 14, 1841 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Mary Sp : Perant, Samuel M : Oct 28, 1841 County : Darke Co. Sex : F Coble, Mary Sp : Yount, Enos M : Mar 23, 1845 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Mary Sp : Hartzler, George M : Dec 28, 1847 County : Darke Co. Sex : F Coble, Matty Sp : Spiker, David (Speicher) M : Aug 19, 1819 County : Wayne Co. Sex : F Coble, Nancy Sp : Hyne, John M : Mar 29, 1832 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Nancy Sp : Swallow, Moses M : Sep 22, 1842 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Peter Sp : Chapman, Ann Elizabeth M : Apr 29, 1841 County : Franklin Co. Sex : M Coble, Philip Sp : Pittinger, Sarah Ann M : Aug 24, 1837 County : Carroll Co. Sex : M Coble, Prudence Sp : Jones, Thomas M : Feb 20, 1840 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Rebecca Sp : Bear, Samuel M : Sep 18, 1835 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Reuben Sp : Johnson, Margaret M : May 28, 1835 County : Perry Co. Sex : M Coble, Sally Sp : Showalter, Jacob M : May 11, 1826 County : Wayne Co. Sex : F Coble, Sally Sp : Piercy, James M : Oct 16, 1828 County : Franklin Co. Sex : F Coble, Sarah Sp : Hardman, Jonathan M : Oct 2, 1811 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Sarah Sp : Hoover, Daniel M : Aug 12, 1826 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Sarah Sp : Anspach, Adam M : Apr 20, 1834 County : Perry Co. Sex : F Coble, Sarah Sp : Nicu, Charles M : Sep 28, 1844 County : Darke Co. Sex : F Coble, Sophey Sp : Barnhart, John M : Sep 4, 1818 County : Preble Co. Sex : F Coble, Susannah Sp : Fikle, Emanuel M : Aug 8, 1844 County : Richland Co. Sex : F Coble, Temperance Sp : Conover, Thomas M. M : Jan 12, 1830 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : F Coble, Valentine Sp : Sandham, Elizabeth M : Sep 24, 1840 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : M Coble, William Sp : Waymire, Elizabeth M : Mar 1, 1828 County : Montgomery Co. Sex : M Diana Davis wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer" <hnybny@apk.net> > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 12:39 PM > > ======== > > Source: OHWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [OHWAYNE] Salem Church Madisonburg, Ohio > > > > > > Linda and List: > > > > I read with great interest the copied secretarial book from the Salem > Lutheran Church at Madisonburg. My Speicher, Matz and Coble's were members > and are interred at the Salem Lutheran (Lehman) Cemetery there. > > > > I offer these clarifications: > > Jepiah Mower? Josiah MOWRER > > Michael ?ertig Michael FERTIG > > Jacob Irig Jacob IHRIG > > David S. Statz David MATZ > > David S. Staltz? David MATZ > > David Sheicher? David SPEICHER > > David S. Maltz or Altz David MATZ > > Jacob Maltz Jacob MATZ > > David Speicher? David SPEICHER > > Levi Speichet? Levi SPEICHER > > Frederick Bainer Frederick BRINER > > Mary Bainer Mary BRINER > > Daniel Treaster? Daniel TRASTER > > Daniel Bainer Daniel BRINER > > Philip Cappas? Phillip COPPES > > > > > > I read the article that appeared 11/14/1958 in a local Wayne Co newspaper > detailing that most of the records were destroyed in a fire at the former > parsonage in 1917. > > David S. Matz and David Speicher are two of my ggg grandfathers and I > would be very interested in any further information on them. > > > > thank you, > > > > -Jennifer > > North Royalton, Ohio > > > > > > > > http://www.wayne.lib.oh.us/ > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohwayne/library.htm > > http://wayne-health.org/wc_genealogy.html > > http://www.tomsnet.com/~barneyk/waynevet/toc.html <--New URL Veterans > buried in Wayne Co. Ohio > > > > "He alone deserves to be remembered by his children who > > treasures up and preserves the memory of his fathers." > > --Edmund Burke (1729-1797) > > > > Researching: GRIFFITH, MATZ, DEHAVEN, SPEICHER, COBLE, MOORE, BRANDENBURG, > > FOLTZ, WOLGAMOTT, HIMES, EASON, LATIMER, FAFLIK, SCHWARTZ, RUSSELL, LYNN, > > ZEMAN, STROEMPL, WAYNE CO. OHIO, METZENSEIFEN ANCESTORS, CLEVELAND, OHIO > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Linda Simons > > To: OHWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 1:40 PM > > Subject: [OHWAYNE] Salem Church Madisonburg, Ohio > > > > > > Fellow members I have in my possession a copy of the secretarial book > for the Salem Church in Madisonburg, 1857 which was a Reformed German > Congregation. Here are a few of the names listed ther-in: > > John Sonnedecker, Jacob Stair, Andrew Kintner, Jacob Green,Thall Grustey > ?, Henry Kramer, Jepiah Mower?, Jacob Truce, Henry Kramer, Jacob Ihrig, > Daiid Lehman, Jacob Billman,Lenard Smith, Andrew Sonnedecker, David Billman, > Jacob Dague, > > Abraham Fred Briner, John Lehman, Samuel Zimmerman,Andrew Bucher, ? > Gilbert, JOhn Bresler, David, Marty, Daniel Stout, Michael ?ertig, These > names appeared in May of 1852 > > June 15, 1859: Jacob Irig, Henry Kintner, David S. Statz, Jacob Stair, > Jr. Jacob Stair, Henry Kremer > > 1861: David Lehman, David S. Staltz?, Jacob Stair, John Lehman, Jacob > Irig, David? > > Nov 1862 $2.56 to Jacob Otto for delivering 22 2/3 bushels of coal at > 12 cents a bushel. > > May 25, 1863 Henry Kramer, David Sheicher? David Lehman > > 1865 M. M. France Chairman > > 1866 Adam Schaaf William O. Frances? or France > > 1867 Those who gave money and the amount for a cabinet organ: > > Jacob Irig 10.00 > > David S. Maltz or Altz 10.00 > > Adam Schaaf 5.00 > > Philip Cappas? 5.00 > > Andrew Sonnedecker 10.00 > > Jacob Dague 5.00 > > Andrew Kintner 10.00 > > Joel Gaul 5.oo > > Daniel Bainer 5.oo > > John Lehman 10.00 > > David Lehman 10.00 > > Samuel Zimmerman 7.00 > > Jacob Stair 5.00 > > George L. Frederick 2.00 > > Peter M. Matz 2.00 > > Albert Miller 10.00 > > Michael M. Miller 5.00 > > Christian Wicks 3.00 > > George Hoff 2.00 > > Jacob B. Kintner 5.00 > > Jcob Stair Sr. 3.00 > > Henry Sonnedecker 5.00 > > Jacob Maltz 3.00 > > Jacob Stahl 4.00 > > C.E. Gnacten?? 1.00 > > David Speicher? 4.00 > > Levi Speichet? 2.00 > > Daniel Stout 3.00 > > S. A?. Stout 1.00 > > Mary Stout > 1.00 > > D. S. Stout > 1.00 > > Buss? E. Stout 1.00 > > Frederick Bainer 5.00 > > Mary Bainer 1.00 > > Joseph Showalter 3.00 > > Barbara Hoff /showlater 1.00 > > Daniel Treaster? 2.00 > > Barbara Miller 1.00 > > Frederick Miller 1.00 > > If you reconize any of these names email me and I will see what office > they held in this church. Linda Hoff Simons > > > > ______________________________ > > ==== KOBEL Mailing List ====