Is anyone researching the ARTZ family with a relationship to their COBLE/KOBEL lines? In particular, Sabina Catharine ARTZ, b. ca 1705 in Weinheim, Hesse, Germany who married Johan Nicholas GOBEL/KOBEL, born 1705 and immigrated in 1749 on the ship Priscilla. This family settled in Lancaster Co. PA. Also, this man, Johannes ARTZ. 18TH CENT. EMIGRANTS THE WESTERN PALATINATE Burgert ARTZ, Johannes age 35 Bruchmuhlbach-Miesau ADVENTURE, 1732 Others on ship: susanna Artz (Orttsine) age 39; Johanas Artes age 5; and her children of a previous marriage, Credelass (Margaret Elisabeth) Bennech age 18; Merreless (Maria Elisabeth) Bennech age 7; & Simon Bennites age 13.] EUROPEAN RECORDS STEINWENDEN LUTH. KB: Johannes ARTZ, tile-maker at Misau [6793 Bruchmuhlbach-Miesau] and wife Susanna had one child bp. in this record: Maria Catharina b. 14 Feb 1728; bp. 19 Feb 1728. the only other mention of the surname is a burial record dated 28 Mar 1731: Johann Georg ARTZ, a smith, born at Imbsen near Busweiler [Imbsheim = 67300 Bouxwiller, France] was buried at Miesau, aged 66y6m2w. AMERICAN RECORDS CHRIST LUTHERAN KB, Marion twp. Berks Co. PA Joh. Simon BINETSCH, orphan s/o Nicholas Binetsch and step-son of John ARTZ. md. 26 Jun 1744 Anna Catharina KOBEL, orphan d/o late KOBEL. Conf: 1744: Johannes Artz, s/o Johannes Conf: 1744: Maria Elisabetha Binetsch, d/o Nicl. Binetsch. Buried Sep. 1772: John ARTZ widow Susanna, in the Heidelberg church-yard. BERKS CO. PA. ADM: On 23 Jan 1762 administration of the estate of John Artz, deceased, of Heidelberg twp., was granted to John Artz, his only son. The widow Susanna had renounced her right to administer the estate. Thank you, Jean

This is the last in our series of emigration data from Gert. If anyone needs help in interpreting the entries, please ask. Jean 18TH CENT. EMIGRANTS THE WESTERN PALATINATE Burgert ARTZ, Johannes age 35 Bruchmuhlbach-Miesau ADVENTURE, 1732 Others on ship: susanna Artz (Orttsine) age 39; Johanas Artes age 5; and her children of a previous marriage, Credelass (Margaret Elisabeth) Bennech age 18; Merreless (Maria Elisabeth) Bennech age 7; & Simon Bennites age 13.] EUROPEAN RECORDS STEINWENDEN LUTH. KB: Johannes ARTZ, tile-maker at Misau [6793 Bruchmuhlbach-Miesau] and wife Susanna had one child bp. in this record: Maria Catharina b. 14 Feb 1728; bp. 19 Feb 1728. the only other mention of the surname is a burial record dated 28 Mar 1731: Johann Georg ARTZ, a smith, born at Imbsen near Busweiler [Imbsheim = 67300 Bouxwiller, France] was buried at Miesau, aged 66y6m2w. AMERICAN RECORDS CHRIST LUTHERAN KB, Marion twp. Berks Co. PA Joh. Simon BINETSCH, orphan s/o Nicholas Binetsch and step-son of John ARTZ. md. 26 Jun 1744 Anna Catharina KOBEL, orphan d/o late KOBEL. Conf: 1744: Johannes Artz, s/o Johannes Conf: 1744: Maria Elisabetha Binetsch, d/o Nicl. Binetsch. Buried Sep. 1772: John ARTZ widow Susanna, in the Heidelberg church-yard. BERKS CO. PA. ADM: On 23 Jan 1762 administration of the estate of John Artz, deceased, of Heidelberg twp., was granted to John Artz, his only son. The widow Susanna had renounced her right to administer the estate. [If you are interested Jean there is some data on BINNETSCH, Simon] Pg. 79 HERREN-SULZBACH LUTH. KB. Johann Henrich CULMANN md. 2) 24 Jul 1691 Maria Barbara, d/o Joh. Paul WEYLANDT. had ch. Elisabetha Catharina bp. 13 Sep 1705 md. Joh. Philip GABEL of Offenbach. [More on this Culmann line also if you want] GABEL, Johann Friedrich age 37 Offenbach-Hundheim SAMUEL, 1739 EUROPEAN RECORDS ST. JULIAN LUTH. KB: Hans Jacob Gabel md. 9 Jan 1691 Maria Margretha, d/o Hans conrad RHEINMULLER. They had: Johann Friedrich bp. 4 Apr 1701 at Offenbach Johana FriedrichGABEL md. 22 May 1725 Maria Magdalena SPIES bp. 19 Mar 1702, d/o Hans Georg Spies. they had: Anna Catharina b. 19 May 1727 oh. Philip b. 3 Apr 1730 d. 2 Jul 1733 ZMP: Lichtenberg, 1739: Joh. Friderich GUBEL, serf of the Offenbach Cloister, moves to America AMERICAN RECORDS OLD GOSHENHOPPEN LUTH. KB, Montgomery Co. PA Joh. Gridrich GABEL, Lutheran, single s/o Friedrich Gabe., md. 10 May 1757 Elisabetha d/o Georg WEIGELE. Georg Gabel b. Oct 1740, s/o Fridrich & Maria Magdalena Gabel, conf. 19 May 1756. John Nicolaus Gabel, age 18, s/o Fridrich Gabel, conf. 1762. Johann Friedrich Gabel md. 2) Christiana Henrietta HAUBERGER, d/o Christian Hauberger and Maria Catharina, residing in Germany. Children of second marr. Philip Fridrich b. 5 Oct 1757 Christian b. 19 Apr 1754 Communicants list dated 3 Dec 1752: Frierich Gabel, Christianna Henrietta Gabel, his wife. GABEL, Joh. Philipp age 41 Offenbach-Hundheim SAMUEL 1739 EUROPEAN RECORDS ST. JULIAN LUTH. KB: Hans Jacob GABEL md. 9 Jan 1691 Maria Margretha, d/o Hans Conrad RHEINMULLER, They had: Johann Philipp bp. 14 Aug 1698 at Offenbach Johann Philipp GABEL md. 20 Apr 1735 at Offenbach Anna Elisabetha CULLMANN, d/o late Heinrich Cullmann of sulzbach. She was b. 12 sep 1705. To America in 1739 AMERICAN RECORDS OLD GOSHENHOPPEN LUTH. KB, Montgomery Co. PA Joh. Philip GABEL, b. 14 Aug 1698 in Offenbach at the Glan in the district of Zweibrucken, s/o Joh. Jacob GABEL and Maria Margaretha; came to America in 1739. In 1735 he marr. Elisabetha Catharina CULMANN, b. 12 sep 1705, bp. 13 Sep 1705 in Herrn Sulzbach "in Hernburgsche" d/o Henrich Culmann and Maria Barbara. Children: Joh. Fridrich b. 17 Fb 1736 d. 1741 Joh. Peter b. 2 Jan 1737 conf. 1752 Joh. Philip b. 27 Oct 1739 conf. 1752 Catharina Elisabetha b. 15 Mar 1741 conf. 1753 Margaretha b. 6 Jun 1743 Maria Catharina b. 3 Nov 1744 conf. 1756 FRIES, Samuel age 50 Steinwenden PATIENCE, 1748 EUROPEAN RECORDS Joh. Simon FRIES s/o Michael Fries of Schwanden md. 13 Mar 1696 Maria Elisabetha, d/o late JohannesGODEL of Wolffstein. They had: Johan Samuel bp. 9 May 1697 [more on this line] Thank you Gert!

In going over the burials at Low's Lutheran Church I have found this family, can anyone tell me who they are. Coble, Elizabeth w/o G. W. b 17 Jan 1832 d 28 Mar 1854 Coble, Oscar Monroe s/o G. W. & E. 22 Jul 1852 d. 14 Mar 1854 Jannine Coble Gregory Austin, Texas Remember "where ever you go there you are"

This entry should make a lot of people happy! Thank you so much Gert for all your kind help. This is exactly what sharing and discussing is all about. This week has been exciting and very eventful, thanks to all the participation going on. Let's not stop here. Jean Hans Georg GOBEL, of "Hofheim in the Austrian territories" [Hofheim im Oesterreichischen], citizen, vassal of the bishop of Speyer, by bad luck overloaded with debts (wife and children, free of vassalage), had property of 160 florins, was manumitted to go to his relatives in PA. [zu Verwandten in Pennsylvanien], 24 Apr 1733. Arrived at Philadelphia on the Ship HOPE, 28 Aug 1733. In the ship list the name is spelled "GOBEL, GABEL, & GOBL" The father's age is given as 40, the wife Barbara 38, and five children are listed (Antoni 12, Anna Maria 10, Magdalena 8, Jerg Adam 5, and Hans Jerg 3 1/2. A letter to the Editor from Dr. Fritz Braun, Director, Heimatstelle Pfalz, Kaiserslauter, dated 24 Feb 1970, furnishes additional data on this family. The town of origin is now Hoffenheim near Sinsheim in Baden. From the church register of Hoffenheim it appears that there were eleven children in all: Antonius, b. 24 Aug 1717, Carl Antony, b. 21 Oct 1718, died 26 Aug 1720, Maria Elisabetha, b. 3 Sep 1720, d. 2 Oct 1720., Anna Maria, b. 14 Aug 1721, Georg Balthasar, b. 3 Mar 1723, d. 23 Aug 1724, Maria Magdalena, b. 1 Jan 1725, Anna Margaretha, b. 23 Mar 1726, d. 28 Feb 1728, Georg Adam, b. 13 Apr 1727, Hanss Georg, b. 12 Sep 1728, Anna Catharina b. 28 Feb 1730, d. 24 Feb 1733, Maria Dorothea, b. 13 Apr 1732. That takes care of the Emigrant books that I have. Gert

This is also contributed by Gert, thank you! Wonderful information in these records. 18TH CENT. EMIGRANTS FROM PFUNGSTADT by Burgert AMERICAN RECORDS: Philadelphia Will Book Q: 268, Est. #223 - 1776 Nicholas BITTEL, Philadelphia Co., yeoman; 5 Jan 1776 - 15 Mar 1776. wife: Mary Elizabeth, Ch: Nicholas; Margaret, w/o Philip GABEL,Jr.; Catharine, w/o Valentine Buff; Mary Elisabeth. Legacy to the Luth. Cong. in Upper salford. Exc: Philip GABEL, Jr. THE PERKIOMAN REGION, Past & present, Vol. 3. #3. Philip GABEL, Jr. b. in PA 29 Oct 1739, s/o Philip & Elisabeth Catharine (Colman) Gabel, md. ca. 1766 Anna Margaret GAUKLER (maiden name BITTLE), widow of Killian Gaugler, d/o Nicolaus & Mary Elizabeth Bittel 18TH CENT. EMIGRANTS , THE NORTHERN KRAICHGAU Burgert ERNST, Hans Michael Hoffenheim Waldangelloch = 6920 Sinsheim, Elsenz SNOW BETTSEY, 1739 HOFFENHEIM LUTH. KB: md. 8 Nov 1701 at Hoffenheim, Hans Michel ERNST, s/o of late Georg MartinErnst of Angloch, and Anna Dorothea, d/o of late Herr Hans Bernhard GOBEL. "Ahnwalt". children: (Waldangeloch Luth. KB:) anna Margaretha bp. 27 Nov 1702, md. 1728 Jerg Thomas Sautter Hans Michel bp. 15 May 1706 Hans Jacob bp. 30 Jun 1709 d. young Regina Barbara bp. 7 Feb 1712 Maria Regina bp. 15 Jun 1714 Anna Eva bp. 14 Mar 1717 md. Apr 1733 Hans Michael ERNST & Christina, d/o of late Ludwig BOSCH., "Anwald" PA. RECORDS: NEW HOLLAND LUTH. KB, Lancaster Co. Joh. Michael ERNST had a son Georg Thomas b. 15 Nov 1739. one sponsor was Georg Thomas Sautter GOBEL, Hans Georg age 40 Hoffenheim Snow Louisa, 1752 HOFFENHEIM LUTH. KB: md. 21 Nov 1724 Niclas Gobel., s/o late Hans Georg Gobel, and Dorothea CRAFFT. Joh. Niclas Gobel and Anna Dorothea had: Joh. Georg b. 10 May 1733; AMERICAN RECORDS: Rowan Co., N.C., Superior Court Minutes. pg. 598: Natives of Germany nat. 22 Sep 1763: George COBELL, Jacob COBELL GOBEL, Hans Georg age 40 Hoffenheim HOPE, 1733 others on ship: Barbara age 38, Antony age 12 Anna Maria age 10 Magdalena age 8 Jurg Adam age 5 Hans Georg age 3 1/2. HOFFENHEIM LUTH. KB. Hans Jerg GOBEL & wife Eva had: Hans Jerg bp. 4 Jun 1693 md. 13 May 1716 Johann Georg GOBEL, s/o Joh. Georg Gobel, and Maria Barbara GEISLER, d/o Peter Geisler, citizen. Children: Carl Antonius b. 21 Oct 1718, Maria Elisabetha b. 5 Sep 1720, Anna Maria b. 14 Aug 1721, Georg Balthasar b. 3 Mar 1723, Maria Magdalena b. 1 Jan 1725, Anna Margretha b. 23 Mar 1726, Georg Adam b. 13 Apr 1727, Hans Georg b. 12 Sep 1728, Maria Dorothea b. 13 May 1732. PA. RECORDS: TRINITY LUTH. KB., Lancaster: Joh. Georg GOBEL had: Johannes b. 28 Aug 1734, bp. 10 nov 1734. (also recorded in Christ Luth. KB, york. CHRIST LUTH. KB, York Anthony KOBEL and wife had: Maria elisabeth b. 27 oct 1743 LISCHY'S RECORDS, York Co. Antoni GOBEL & Anna Maria had: Eva bp. 11 Jun 1749 ROWAN CO., N.C. Superior Court Minutes pp. 597-598 Natives of Germany nat. 22 Mar 1763 Anthony COBBLE 22 Sep 1763 Adam COBELL Anthony Coble of Guilford Co., NC. Will 24 May 1794, wife mentioned not named. Children: George, Ludwick, David, Barbara CLASS, Lisabeth SMITH, Eve GLASS, Molly SHATTERLY, thorely GRAVES, Mary GRAVES, Cataren CORTNER & son John who is named executor. FIRST REF. KB. Lancaster: melchior BAYER & Anna Maria KOBEL had: Maria Elisabetha b. 15 Dec 1740; sp. Anthony KOBEL & Maria EMIG Anthony KOBEL & Anna Maria nee EMIG had: John b. 15 Jul 1742; sp. John Emig. ST. MATTHEW'S LUTH. KB, Hanover Georg GOBELL has a son Johann Henrich, no dates given [ca 1751], sklponsored by Georg Adam GOBELL and Maria Magdalena FACKLERN. Georg Adam GOBEL md. Anna Margaretha LOFFELIN 13 May 1754. Johannes GOBEL md. 17 Feb 1755 Maria Barbara STAHLIN Wentz, THE BEGINNINGS OF THE GERMAN ELEMENT IN YORK, CO. PA. Appendix B: Gorrick GOBELL appears on a list of names of persons for whose arrest a warrant was issued on 21 Oct 1736 by the Maryland government. He had signed a letter of protest to the Governor of Maryland. OBEL, Joh. Jacob Hoffenheim NANCY, 1750 HOFFENHEIM LUTH. KB: md. 21 Nov 1723 Niclas GOBEL, s/o late Hans Georg Gobel, and Dorothea CRAFFT. son: Johann Jacob bp. 26 Nov 1730 AMERICAN RECORDS: FIRST REF. KB, Lancaster Jacob KOBEL & Anna Margaret had: Jaocb bp. 8 Mar 1752 ROWAN CO. NC. Superior Court Minutes. pg. 598: Natives of Germany nat. 22 Sep 1763: George cobell, Jacob Cobell. A Jacob coble witnessed the 1793 will of Anthony coble in Guilford Co., NC. (THIS SEEMS TO BE A REPEAT) SCHUMACHER, Jacob Berwangen, Kraichgau CHARMING NANCY, 1737 with Anna Maria, Paul, George, & Anna Maria BERWANGEN LUTH. KB: md. 24 Nov 1697 Jacob Schumacher, s/o Andreas Schumacher, "Gerichtsverwandten" & Anna, d/o Hans KOBELIN. thier son: Paul b. 30 Apr 1727 d. 26 Dec 1728 Paulua b. 2 Oct 1729 Joh. George bp. 1731 Maria Catharina b. 18 Dec 1732

Hi Everyone-This was generously contributed by a list member, Gert. Thank you Gert for all the typing but most importantly the sharing. Jean 30,000 NAMES OF IMMIGRANTS IN PA. by Rupp 30 Sep 1727 MOLLEY John Hodgeson, Master, from Rotterdam Hans KOBEL 21 Sep 1731 BRITANIA, of London, Michael Franklyn, Master, from Rotterdam Jacob KOBEL 19 Sep 1732 JOHNSON, of London, David Crocket, Master, from Rotterdam Peter GABELE 25 Sep 1732 LOYAL JUDITH , of London, Robert Turpin, Master, from Rotterdam Henrich GOBELL 27 Aug 1733 ELIZA, of London, Edward Lee, Master, from Rotterdam Conrad KOBEL, under age 16 28 Aug 1733 HOPE, of London, Dan. Reid, Master, from Rotterdam Hans Georg GOBEL and Georg Adam GOBEL, under age 16 16 Sep 1738 QUEEN ELIZABETH, Alexander Hope, Master, from Rotterdam Conrad GOBE??? Johan Henry GABEL 27 Aug 1739 SAMUEL, Hugh Percy, Commander, from Rotterdam Johan Friederich GABEL, Johan Philip GABEL 2 Nov 1744 FRIENDSHIP, John Mason, Captain, from Rotterdam Christoph KOBLE 25 Oct 1746 NEPTUNE, Thomas Wilkinson, Master, from Rotterdam Johannes KOBEL 9 Oct 1747 RESTAURATION, James Hall, Captain, from Rotterdam Jost KOBEL 2 Sep 1749 ALBANY, Robert Brown, Master, from Rotterdam Wirtembergers from Ergach Joh. Michel KABEL Joh. Michael KABEL, Sr. Hans KABEL, sick 11 Sep 1749 PRISCILLA, William Meier, Captain, from Rotterdam Johan Nickel GOBEL 24 Aug 1750 BROTHERS Muir Captain from Rotterdam, last from Cowes CAAREL, Casper CABEL, Daniel 31 Aug 1750 NANCY, Thomas Cautom, Master, from Rotterdam Joh. Jacob GOBEL 22 Sep 1752 BROTHERS, William M'Nair, Captain from Rotterdam Johan Peter GABEL 8 Nov 1752 SNOW LOUISA, John Pittcairne, Captain from Rotterdam Georg GOBEL 14 Sep 1753 EDINBURGH, James Russel, Captain, from Rotterdam Philip Henry GABEL, Solomon GABEL 28 Sep 1753 HALIFAX, Thomas Coatam, Captain, from Rotterdam Herman GOBEL 2 Oct 1753 EDINBURGH, James Lyon, Captain, from Rotterdam Johan Philip GOBEL 1 Oct 1754 PHOENIX, John Spurrier, Captain, from Rotterdam Johannes GABEL 2 Oct 1753 EDINBURGH, James Lyon, Captain, from Rotterdam Johan Philip GOBEL 1 Oct 1754 PHOENIX, John Spurrier, Captain, from Rotterdam Johannes GABEL 21 Oct 1754 FRIENDSHIP, Charles Ross, Captain, from Rotterdam Moritz GOBEL 10 Nov 1767 SALLY, Patrick Brown, Master, from Rotterdam Jacob GOBELL 30 Apr 1773 PENNSYLVANIA PACKET, Peter Osborne, Commander, from London Conrad GABEL Names and Ages of the Heads of Families Remaining in the City of New York, 1720 Anna Maria GABEL, 34, widow Names of Male Palatines, above 21 yrs old, in Livingston Manor, N.Y. in the Winter 1710, and summer 1711 Jacob KOBEL

Kay, I'm glad someone else found the same thing! On page 11 of that same book is listed the children of Anthony. Check it out and see if you see the same thing I do. Teresa

I have this Anthony on the census of Randolph County, NC 1800 and by 1816 they were in Montgomery County, Ohio Jannine Coble Gregory Austin, Texas Remember "where ever you go there you are"

I thought I would send this documentation to the list for discussion. It is clear we have a Anthony and an Anthony Jr. now whether this is the Father and Son at this time can not always be clear. But the Brick Church records clearly states that we had a Anthony having an Anthony. Just because Anthonius does not mention an Anthony is his will does not always mean he is not his son, he could have already given him what he intended for him to have before he died. I have seen this in genealogy before. We could be dealing with 3 generations here also. Look at this and lets see if we can't get this straighten out for once and all (yes, I know that doesn't happen in genealogy) By the way I have all these land records from Orange County. The Anthony Coble that married Maria Barbara Summers, was born before 1776 as recorded in census records. He died bet 1820 and 1830 in Rockcastle County, Ky. If the Antonius Coble died before 1793 there are land records in Orange County, NC. For Anthony Coble 1797, 1798 witness to a land sale, 1802. 1802 Orange County deed book ten P. 104 Benjamin Sheramn of Orange to Anthony Coble and Peter Summers of Guilford 1 Sep 1801 1802 P. 105 Anthony Cable (in dutch) witness to a land sale proved May Term 1802 by Anthony Cable, delvd to Geo. Strader 29 June 1811, Irrael Holt and Barbara Coble Administrators of Anthony Coble Junioe deceased of Orang to Peter Waggoner of Guilford, one thousand dollars paid to Anthony Coble deceased 1801 in March Orange County, Anthony Coble witnessed land sale and was proved in May Term 1813 by Anthony Coble Brick Church Records: Anthony Coble, son of Anthony Coble Sr., and Maria Barbara Sommers, daughter of Peter Sommers, were Married May 31, 1803. In the 1810 census of Orange County, NC. Cable, A. , Sr. 2 males b 1800-1810, 1 males b 1765-1784 1 male b bef 1765 3 females b 1800-1810 1 female b 1765-1784 Cable, A.,Jr. 3 males b 1800-1810 1 male b 1765-1784 3 females b 1800-1810 2 females b 1794-1800 1 female b 1765-1784 1820 census of Orange County, NC. Cable, Anthony 3 males b 1810-1820 2 males b 1804-1810 1 males b 1794-1804 1 male bef 1775 2 females b 1810-1820 1 female b 1804-1810 1 female b 1775-1794 1820 census of Rockcastle, Ky Coble, Anthony 1 male b 1804-1810 1male b bef 1775 1 female b bef 1775 Peter Summers will wrote this: 6th - As to my daughter Barbary, I have advanced her in life with twelve hundred & fifty dollars in money & also in stock & other things necessary for keeping house & likewise two Negroes, amounting in all to twenty two hundred & fifty dollars, making her equal to the rest of my other children. I now give her, in addition ... all the money or legace given to me my [sic] Anthony COBLE of Rock-castle county Kentucky, in his last will, and I do hereby authorize and empower my said daughter Barbary to recover the said money or legacy from the Executors of Mr. COBLE, to give receipts for and hold the same to her own use. I give my daughter Barbary one thousand dollars to be paid to her in such sums as my Executors may think her necessities shall require. Does anyone have this will in Rockcastle County, Ky? Jannine Coble Gregory Austin, Texas Remember "where ever you go there you are"

----- Original Message ----- From: <JEANFAZZ@aol.com> To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 10:28 AM Subject: [COBLE] Johann Georg KOBEL 1693-1765 > Welcome Darrell! Asking questions on this list does not offend anyone! Ask > away. After all, the purpose of these lists is to ask questions, to share > information, to discuss and to learn. There can never be too much discussion. > Please post information on how to order York County wills. Thank you, Patsy Nesbit > The following information is what I have on the family of Johann Georg Kobel. > The sources are listed at the end. This is not my Coble/Kobel line. > > Johann Georg Kobel > Born: 4 Jun 1693 Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Baden, Germany > Married: 13 May 1716 " > Died: 22 Feb 1765 Pennsylvania > Son of: Johann Georg Gobel and Maria Elizabeth Gilbert > Wife: Maria Barbara Geisler born ca 1695 > in Hoffenheim, Baden, Germany > Daughter of Peter Geisler > Immigration: Arrived in Philadelphia on the Ship "Hope" > on 28 Aug 1733 > Children: All born in Hoffenheim-Sinsheim, Baden, Germany > with the exception of the last child. > 1. Anthony 24 Aug 1717-1793 in Guilford Co. N.C. > Married: Maria Barbara Summers, she was > born ca 1721 in Guilford Co. N.C. > 2. Carl Anton 21 Oct 1718-26 Aug 1720 > 3. Maria Elizabeth 3 Sept 1720-2 Oct 1720 > 4. Anna Maria 14 Aug 1721 > 5. Georg Balthaser 3 Mar 1723-23 Aug 1724 > 6. Maria Magdalena 1 Jan 1725 > 7. Anna Margaretha 23 Mar 1726-28 Feb 1728 > 8. Georg Adam 13 Apr 1727-1774 > 9. Hans Georg 12 Sept 1728-1815 in N.C. > 10. Anna Catharina 28 Feb 1730-24 Feb 1733 > 11. Maria Dorothea 13 Apr 1732 > 12. Johannes 28 Aug 1734 York Co., PA. > Baptized 10 Nov 1734 Christ Evangelical > Lutheran Church, City of York > Died: 1791 Shewsbury Twsp. York Co., PA. > Married: Gertraut Schneider, the widow of > Philip Simon. They had one child Christina > Gable born 12 Jan 1763. Christina married > Hans Gramer. > > Sources: Immigration, Rhineland Emigrants Page 70-71 > 18th Century Emigrants from the Northern Kraichgau > Volume 1 page 134-135 > Early German Settlers of York County, PA. page 311 > Birth record of child number 12, Johannes from York Co., PA. Church Records > of the 18th Century, page 127. > The entry for this birth record reads: John GOBEL born 28 Aug 1734, baptized > 10 Nov 1734, John George Gobel and wife, the baptismal sponsors are not given. > > If anyone descends from Johannes (John) 1734-1791 and would like a copy of > his will, please let me know and I will post information on how to order > wills from the York County Archives from their online website. > > Jean > Coble and Kobel list manager > > > > > ==== COBLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is Mytholgy > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

I have Anthony Coble b. 9/20/1774 married Maria Mortez in 1796 in Randolph co, and I have him listed as the son of Nicholas Coble. Zelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank & Kay Wolniak" <frankay@pacbell.net> To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [COBLE] Emig File > From the source "Trinity Lutheran Church Lancaster PA" it lists Anthony > Kobel and wife Anna Maria nee Emig had a son John born 15 Jul 1742.." > Also at the Salt Lake City Library I found a book titled "Coble Family > Records" prepared by the Alamance County Historical Association, under Coble > Family In America page 12 it has Anthony Coble, b. 1774, son of Ludwig, > married Mary in Randolph County NC. Could this be the Mary Barbara > Summers? Just a thought...Kay > > > ==== COBLE Mailing List ==== > Need help? Ask your friends on the Coble list! > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

From the source "Trinity Lutheran Church Lancaster PA" it lists Anthony Kobel and wife Anna Maria nee Emig had a son John born 15 Jul 1742.." Also at the Salt Lake City Library I found a book titled "Coble Family Records" prepared by the Alamance County Historical Association, under Coble Family In America page 12 it has Anthony Coble, b. 1774, son of Ludwig, married Mary in Randolph County NC. Could this be the Mary Barbara Summers? Just a thought...Kay

I know we have been on this subject before and never did settle it, But If Antonius b. 1717 had a son named Anthony, he wasn't listed in the Will and his last child was born in 1759 or 1760, somehow I just can't see them having another child 14 years later. Anna Maria would have been 51 years old. I'm not saying it is impossible but most list of the children I see does not mention a son named Anthony. I think this Anthony was a son of someone else. Zelma ----- Original Message ----- From: <TCoble7506@aol.com> To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [COBLE] Emig File > Jean, I have that Anthonius and Anna Maria's son Anthony b. Oct 20, 1774 > married Maria Barbara Summers. > > Teresa > > > ==== COBLE Mailing List ==== > Need help? Ask your friends on the Coble list! > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Jean, I have that Anthonius and Anna Maria's son Anthony b. Oct 20, 1774 married Maria Barbara Summers. Teresa

Hi-Just checking to be sure that everyone who asked for a copy of the "Emig File" received it. Betty Coble at coblepdl@dfsi.net your mail box is full and will not accept the file I sent you. Please empty your mailbox and I will sent it again. Well, now that those of you who have seen what Early German Settlers of York County has to say, lets have some discussion as to how you feel about the marriage of Anthony Kobel and Anna Maria Emig. Does it "fit"? And, who did marry Maria Barbara Summers? Jean

Darrell- For good tips in general <A HREF="http://www.cyndislist.com/cemetery.htm">Cyndi's List - Cemeteries & Funeral Homes</A> And for specific information on tombstone photography: <A HREF="http://www.genealogy.com/64_gravestones.html">Genealogy.com: Tips for Photographing Gravestones by Maureen Taylor</A> I think the felt pen brigade would get after you if you used them on a tombstone :-) Jean

I personally would suspect that decendents, at least, would be upset if a felt tip marker was used on an ancestor's stone. There have been times that I have written down what was on the stone at my time of visit, then later markup my photo of it with this recorded information. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell" <darrellcoble@netzero.net> To: <COBLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: [COBLE] Tombstone Photos > Hello, I have a question that I'm sure this group can answer. > I'm going back to Indiana in about a month to visit my Brother and > Sister but stated objective is to hunt mushrooms and visit cemetery's. I > have trouble getting good photos and have been using chalk on the stone > to make it readable with so-so results. Would a fat felt pen work in > highlighting the engraving ?? Will someone > get upset if I do this? What works well? Thanks Darrell > > > Shop online without a credit card > http://www.rocketcash.com > RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary > > > ==== COBLE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe: send a message to COBLE-L-request. Type unsubscribe in the subject line and message area > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > >

History of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania I. Daniel Rupp Gilbert Hills Publisher Page 271 John Bushlong, a French Huguenot, sailed in the same vessel with Rev. Johannes Bartholomews Reiger. They left Rotterdam by way of Cowes, on the Ship Britannia of London. Michael Franklyn, Master, and arrived at Philadelphia in September 1731. Some of Bushlongs descendants reside in East Lampeter, near Heller's Church. Among others, who arrived in the same vessel are the well known names of: Beyer, Bock, Frey, Hiestand, Carl, Keyser, Kraft, KOBELL, Lehman, Lutz, Nehs, Roth, Ruppert, Vogler, Schwartz, Weis, Wirtz, Seigmund, Weynand, Schroter, Bihlmeier, Mentz, Horsch, Boor and Bahn.

Here is a list of Coble/Kobel's buried in Lancaster County. Source: Lancaster County, PA. Cemetery Surname Index Clossen Press 1995 Introduction: Many of these records date back to the 1700's and therefore it is possible that some of the stones that once existed no longer existed at the time these records were inventoried. On the other hand, there may be many tombstones recorded that no longer exist. COBLE Rutherford Millersville Elizabethtown Riser's Gantz Giver Keener Mt. Tunnel Silver Springs Byerland Mennonite GABLE Old Union Pres. Union Pres. Voganville Union Muddy Creek Weaverland E. Petersburg Mennonite Landisville Mennonite Quarryville Ephrata Cloister Gable E. B. Landis Farm Landis Valley Millersville Mennonite Millwood Salem Lutheran Kissell Hill Lutheran Millport Rothville Lutheran Rothville Union Zion Mt. Bethel Byerland Mennonite GAEBEL Long Millport GOBEL Landis Valley KABLE Neffsville Lutheran Here is one of many cemetery pages online for PA. <A HREF="http://martin.simplenet.com/Cemeteries/">Cemeteries Online!</A> Jean

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