FYI....any comments anyone? Char ____________________________ To: <charlotte.coats@coatsarchive.zzn.com> Subject: Mary Langdale Coates Father's Autobiography (ca. 1700) From: "jelan1" <jelan1@msn.com> Dear Charlotte, Here is a message I posted on the Genforum Coates and Langdale pages that might interest you. By the way, the Skidmores are Quakers, I understand. Gil Skidmore told me by telephone that she is publishing other Quaker spiritual autobiographies. I've collected a fair amount of information on descendants of Josiah Langdale. Some of these, I believe, live in Colleton County, SC, and Valdosta, GA. If I'm right, they are descendants of Josiah's grandson, Josiah (b. 1739 in Philadelphia), son of John Langdale and Sarah Hudson. Other Langdales, thought to be descended from Samuel (b. 1759 in Philadelphia), a younger brother of the Josiah of Philadelphia (and probably SC), live in such places as Ohio, Illinois, Kansas, and California. According to the Hinshaw encyclopedia of Quaker genealogy, Samuel Coates and Mary Langdale had eleven children. I have seen published pedigrees showing a Henry Coats of Rowan County, NC, as one of them, but that appears unlikely since Samuel and Mary had a son named Langdale Coates born in 1745, the year that Henry Coats is supposed to have been born. I'm referring to the Henry Coats who married Susan Elliott and from whom the Hunts descend. The list of eleven published by Hinshaw does not include a "Henry." With respect to Langdale and Coates genealogy, the LDS records show Josiah Langdale as the son of Marmaduke Langdale and his wife, Elizabeth Savage. I've seen several published pedigrees reflecting this connection, and have myself accepted it as true, having done no research on the matter. That information is contradicted by the autobiography of Josiah Langdale of Yorkshire, some data from which is summarized below. I'm now inclined to believe that someone incorrectly added Josiah Langdale to the children of Marmaduke, Baron of Langdale. Are you familiar with this line? I'd be grateful for your comments. Sincerely, John John E. Lancaster 508 E. Moore St. Valdosta, GA 31602 912-242-1732 ======================== SOME INFORMATION FROM JOSIAH LANGDALE'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY & THE INTRODUCTION "Josiah Langdale, 1673-1723, A Quaker Spiritual Autobiography," edited and with an introduction by Gil Skidmore (Sowle Press: Reading, England, 1999). This is a brief account (about 40 pages, counting the introduction) of Josiah's boyhood and young manhood, emphasizing his spiritual struggle over several years that resulted in his leaving the Church of England to join the Quakers. It mentions his journeys to America. It includes a small amount of data on his family, which is discussed more fully in Gil Skidmore's excellent introduction. For anyone interested in acquiring this work, which I found fascinating, here is the address: The Sowle Press 31 Melrose Avenue Reading, Berks RG6 7BN Telephone: 01734-663452 The Sowle Press is operated by Chris and Gil Skidmore. In this brief and perhaps fragmentary autobiography, Josiah names his parents as Joseph and Margaret Langdale of Nafferton, Yorkshire. Joseph had a brother, John Langdale, and an unnamed sister who was married to a man surnamed Layborne. The Laybornes had two sons, Josiah's cousins, who were priests. He says nothing about siblings, which implies he had none. At the age of twenty, he inherited land from his father, who had died in 1681 when Josiah was eight years of age. In 1710, at age 37, he married Margaret Burton. By 1720 Josiah had resolved to move to America, so he traveled a third time across the Atlantic, perhaps primarily to make future living arrangements for his family (1720-21). By this time he and Margaret had a daughter, Mary, and a son, John. They all boarded a ship, the London Hope, in 1723 bound for Philadelphia or Burlington. Unfortunately, Josiah died before reaching America, and Margaret arrived a widow with two young children. A little more than a year later, still carrying on an active ministry, she married Samuel Preston, a Quaker gentleman and merchant whose age exceeded hers by about two decades. She died in 1742 at the age of fifty-eight. Josiah and Margaret's daughter, Mary, married Samuel Coates. Their son, John, married Sarah Hudson. All of them were Quakers in the Philadelphia/Burlington area. John ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com