oooops...my mistake, let's see, this latest test seems to show that the John Coats married to Ann Dunnigan (James Green Coats and William Washington Coats) has a closer relationship to William Coats married Francis than to James Robert Coats m Elizabeth Webster.... On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Coats Family History <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > James appears from this latest test to be more closely related to > William than John R.... > > The secondary info at Ancestry has not been confirmed with any primary > source records from the New England area records....New England by the > way has very good records, so there is no need to rely on secondary > info at Ancestry...so that connection with Charles Coats and Thankful, > I was not able to find any records to make any connection there...that > does not mean something may not show up..but at this time we have no > records showing any connection...and unless Ancestry provides source > info it's probably not reliable... > > Very little research has been done in that New England area by the way > on any Coats families, that includes New York and the Maine, New > Hampshire areas as well...so other than the documentation found at the > New England Genealogical and Historical Society, together with the > early town records are the only ones we have... > > So needless to say, much more research needs to be done in those > areas, which may give us more clues on how these families might be > connected... > > Char > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Coats Family History > <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: >> There is likewise nothing in the DNA reports that indicate that John >> Coats m Ann Dunnigan and James Roberts Coats are brothers or 1st >> cousins, they are merely related at this point, so please don't make >> any indication of that either! >> >> You need to be careful making your assumptions with this group...they >> can be misleading and prevent others from doing further research... >> >> All we know is: they are related however, we don't know how at this point... >> >> Char >> >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Linda Coate <lcoate@ancestrees.com> wrote: >>> I have the new DNA results up. I've renamed the group to match the two >>> oldest verified lines in that group. It's now in the middle of the list >>> under the subheading: James R./John Coats. If there is anyone who'd >>> like their kit # linked to their email address or to a family genealogy, >>> you are invited to do so. Thanks. Linda Coate, Coats Family DNA Co-admin >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> A shameless plug for my web activities: >> >> Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal >> registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage >> and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! >> >> Indian Arts and Craft Act: >> http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com >> >> Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: >> http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ >> >> Cherokee Basketweaving Books: >> http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving >> >> Cherokee Artists Association >> http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org >> >> Cherokees of Orange County >> http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org >> >> Coats Archive: >> http://www.coatsarchive.us >> >> Pages Through Time >> http://www.pagesthroughtime.us >> > > > > -- > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > Cherokee Artists Association > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > Cherokees of Orange County > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org > > Coats Archive: > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > Pages Through Time > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ Cherokee Basketweaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Cherokees of Orange County http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org Coats Archive: http://www.coatsarchive.us Pages Through Time http://www.pagesthroughtime.us

And one last point... Anyone that wishes to have research done in this New England area, should contact the New England Geological and Historical Society, they document their research and make no assumptions, I found their research to be very good as far as it went...although they maintained that if the family had slaves in the SC area they were not Quaker, which I don't think is the case...it wasn't until much later in time that the slavery issue became prominent in Quaker Society.... You will need to specify what you have and what you suspect, I only researched the name Charles Coats in that Frederick/Montgomery area since that was all the info we had at the time...that did not include the other William Coats in the area...so I'm still not exactly sure who that William is or where he went...he seems to have left the area or at least there are no other records there other than those early references to him...which I felt was too early of a time period to be William Coats wife Francis in SC and which based on the ages of Notley and James in that old tax record, would not be a son and was more likely a brother...although that likewise could be wrong...we just don't know...there is also another Charles Coats in that Maine area early on and more Coats in that New Hampshire area, we don't know anything about...not to mention those in New York... So just a suggestion if you want good research...not to mention the NEGHS will publish their work if it's information not in their registry....I don't think they'll do a lot of deep digging but at least surface clues can give rise to deeper research....:) Char On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Coats Family History <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > oooops...my mistake, let's see, this latest test seems to show that > the John Coats married to Ann Dunnigan (James Green Coats and William > Washington Coats) has a closer relationship to William Coats married > Francis than to James Robert Coats m Elizabeth Webster.... > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Coats Family History > <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: >> James appears from this latest test to be more closely related to >> William than John R.... >> >> The secondary info at Ancestry has not been confirmed with any primary >> source records from the New England area records....New England by the >> way has very good records, so there is no need to rely on secondary >> info at Ancestry...so that connection with Charles Coats and Thankful, >> I was not able to find any records to make any connection there...that >> does not mean something may not show up..but at this time we have no >> records showing any connection...and unless Ancestry provides source >> info it's probably not reliable... >> >> Very little research has been done in that New England area by the way >> on any Coats families, that includes New York and the Maine, New >> Hampshire areas as well...so other than the documentation found at the >> New England Genealogical and Historical Society, together with the >> early town records are the only ones we have... >> >> So needless to say, much more research needs to be done in those >> areas, which may give us more clues on how these families might be >> connected... >> >> Char >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Coats Family History >> <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: >>> There is likewise nothing in the DNA reports that indicate that John >>> Coats m Ann Dunnigan and James Roberts Coats are brothers or 1st >>> cousins, they are merely related at this point, so please don't make >>> any indication of that either! >>> >>> You need to be careful making your assumptions with this group...they >>> can be misleading and prevent others from doing further research... >>> >>> All we know is: they are related however, we don't know how at this point... >>> >>> Char >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Linda Coate <lcoate@ancestrees.com> wrote: >>>> I have the new DNA results up. I've renamed the group to match the two >>>> oldest verified lines in that group. It's now in the middle of the list >>>> under the subheading: James R./John Coats. If there is anyone who'd >>>> like their kit # linked to their email address or to a family genealogy, >>>> you are invited to do so. Thanks. Linda Coate, Coats Family DNA Co-admin >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A shameless plug for my web activities: >>> >>> Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal >>> registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage >>> and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! >>> >>> Indian Arts and Craft Act: >>> http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com >>> >>> Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: >>> http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ >>> >>> Cherokee Basketweaving Books: >>> http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving >>> >>> Cherokee Artists Association >>> http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org >>> >>> Cherokees of Orange County >>> http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org >>> >>> Coats Archive: >>> http://www.coatsarchive.us >>> >>> Pages Through Time >>> http://www.pagesthroughtime.us >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> A shameless plug for my web activities: >> >> Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal >> registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage >> and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! >> >> Indian Arts and Craft Act: >> http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com >> >> Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: >> http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ >> >> Cherokee Basketweaving Books: >> http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving >> >> Cherokee Artists Association >> http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org >> >> Cherokees of Orange County >> http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org >> >> Coats Archive: >> http://www.coatsarchive.us >> >> Pages Through Time >> http://www.pagesthroughtime.us >> > > > > -- > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal > registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage > and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! > > Indian Arts and Craft Act: > http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com > > Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: > http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ > > Cherokee Basketweaving Books: > http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving > > Cherokee Artists Association > http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org > > Cherokees of Orange County > http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org > > Coats Archive: > http://www.coatsarchive.us > > Pages Through Time > http://www.pagesthroughtime.us > -- A shameless plug for my web activities: Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! Indian Arts and Craft Act: http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ Cherokee Basketweaving Books: http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving Cherokee Artists Association http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org Cherokees of Orange County http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org Coats Archive: http://www.coatsarchive.us Pages Through Time http://www.pagesthroughtime.us

That's interesting. Since we don't have a way to compare that anymore, I wondered what it was. Linda Coats Family History wrote: > oooops...my mistake, let's see, this latest test seems to show that > the John Coats married to Ann Dunnigan (James Green Coats and William > Washington Coats) has a closer relationship to William Coats married > Francis than to James Robert Coats m Elizabeth Webster.... > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Coats Family History > <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > >> James appears from this latest test to be more closely related to >> William than John R.... >> >> The secondary info at Ancestry has not been confirmed with any primary >> source records from the New England area records....New England by the >> way has very good records, so there is no need to rely on secondary >> info at Ancestry...so that connection with Charles Coats and Thankful, >> I was not able to find any records to make any connection there...that >> does not mean something may not show up..but at this time we have no >> records showing any connection...and unless Ancestry provides source >> info it's probably not reliable... >> >> Very little research has been done in that New England area by the way >> on any Coats families, that includes New York and the Maine, New >> Hampshire areas as well...so other than the documentation found at the >> New England Genealogical and Historical Society, together with the >> early town records are the only ones we have... >> >> So needless to say, much more research needs to be done in those >> areas, which may give us more clues on how these families might be >> connected... >> >> Char >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Coats Family History >> <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> There is likewise nothing in the DNA reports that indicate that John >>> Coats m Ann Dunnigan and James Roberts Coats are brothers or 1st >>> cousins, they are merely related at this point, so please don't make >>> any indication of that either! >>> >>> You need to be careful making your assumptions with this group...they >>> can be misleading and prevent others from doing further research... >>> >>> All we know is: they are related however, we don't know how at this point... >>> >>> Char >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Linda Coate <lcoate@ancestrees.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I have the new DNA results up. I've renamed the group to match the two >>>> oldest verified lines in that group. It's now in the middle of the list >>>> under the subheading: James R./John Coats. If there is anyone who'd >>>> like their kit # linked to their email address or to a family genealogy, >>>> you are invited to do so. Thanks. Linda Coate, Coats Family DNA Co-admin >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> A shameless plug for my web activities: >>> >>> Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal >>> registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage >>> and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! >>> >>> Indian Arts and Craft Act: >>> http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com >>> >>> Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: >>> http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ >>> >>> Cherokee Basketweaving Books: >>> http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving >>> >>> Cherokee Artists Association >>> http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org >>> >>> Cherokees of Orange County >>> http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org >>> >>> Coats Archive: >>> http://www.coatsarchive.us >>> >>> Pages Through Time >>> http://www.pagesthroughtime.us >>> >>> >> >> -- >> A shameless plug for my web activities: >> >> Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal >> registration number before you buy!! Cherokee Style, Cherokee Heritage >> and Cherokee Descent all mean non Indian! >> >> Indian Arts and Craft Act: >> http://nativeamericanlawus.blogspot.com >> >> Cherokee Basket Weaver's Association: >> http://cherokeebasketweaversassociation.org/ >> >> Cherokee Basketweaving Books: >> http://www.lulu.com/groups/indianbasketweaving >> >> Cherokee Artists Association >> http://www.cherokeeartistsassociation.org >> >> Cherokees of Orange County >> http://www.cherokeesoforangecounty.org >> >> Coats Archive: >> http://www.coatsarchive.us >> >> Pages Through Time >> http://www.pagesthroughtime.us >> >> > > > >