Now the discussion getting good. Sure wish I had time to delve into it to, but I'm pretty much booked through the weekend. Have fun. Linda Coats Family History wrote: > One other thing...we also have documentation that John Coats in Logan > County KY is the same John Coats that gives the power of attorney for > the sale of land in Kershaw County SC...now is this John Coats wife > Ann Dunnigan, he was suppose to have gone through Knox or McMinn > County TN...if he did there is no record of him there...but we have a > solid documented record of a John Coats in Logan County KY with a > connection to Chester/Kershaw County...so one could conclude that John > Coats wife Ann Dunnigan is the John in Logan County KY passing through > maybe Knox or McMinn Counties in TN but I suspect you'll spend a ton > of time trying to find documentation of that... > > I have an old history that shows Sylvester Baker as Ann Baker Coats > father, with documentation we've disproven that, her ather was John > Baker out of Wilson County TN...so it can be done...but it takes a lot > of digging... > > The other problem is that so many of these birth dates are just plain > guesses or estimates... > > Char > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Coats Family History > <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Who is John R.? >> >> This is my understanding of this group: >> >> John Coats m Ann Dunnigan - who at times is called Maj. although >> coming from the South that may or may not be a valid Military term... >> >> James Robert Coats m Elizabeth Webster >> >> William Coats m Francis - Newberry/Kershaw County SC >> >> We know from DNA that these groups are related but we don't know how >> from the documents and I'm not sure we'll ever know, since so many >> documents were destroyed in the South....we also know that at least >> William Coats w Francis has documented connections with Notley Coats, >> whose father is Charles Coats wife Sophia in Frederick/Montgomery MD - >> Notley as well as at least one documented brother a James Coats and >> other documents showing a connection with others in this SC >> grouping... >> >> We have the documentation for John Coats m Ann Dunnigan their son was >> James Green Coats, he was the executor in both their probates I >> believe...that is a provable fact...as well as their other kids are >> listed in the probates... >> >> I don't keep track of what is below other than in my line...but I >> don't think unless old research is referenced or documented we can >> rely on it... >> >> That's all I'm saying John....too many of these old histories have >> been just accepted, I'd rather not do that with my family...however, >> anyone else is free to do as they wish... >> >> There is indeed another James Coats in Bedford County TN who got a >> land grant in TN from North Carolina, I suspect that is where the >> North Carolina group of Coats and my line got mixed up... >> >> Look folks, provide me with documentation and I'm more than willing to >> accept a line or good circumstancial evidence I will look at...but >> with circumstancial evidence you can go a lot of different directions >> on that... >> >> And I'd be just delighted to have someone disprove anything I say with >> documentation...that is what research is all about....:) >> >> Family stories are great to a certain extent but unless you can >> provide some type of references, they are just family stories...recall >> at least two branches of my family have a story of a James Coats early >> ancestor...that is still possible but if I'm too hard in that >> direction I might miss clues that would take me to documentation that >> could really connect this family with their past and I'd just rather >> not do that.... >> >> So that's where I'm coming from...much conflict in family lines, not a >> lot of answers yet....:) >> >> Char >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:31 AM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: >> >>> Dear List; The lineage I submitted came from the family history done by >>> DeLeonardis, paid for by Sue Coats-Sumrall. Most of the earliest line >>> cames from the Madison Coats Bible, which I've never seen a copy of, but >>> it must be out there somewhere. The line back to James Robert was >>> entirely correct as far as I can prove by wills, deeds, and censuses. It >>> shows the first five kids were born in Robertson County, Ky-Tenn, where >>> there definitely was a boundary line dispute, just as there was between >>> Ohio and Michigan. When those counties were split up, Robertson >>> definitely didn't get any records. They may be in Ky or Davidson, Tn. >>> There were probably two James Coatses in the war of 1812 from TN. Maybe >>> John R. served also, and that is where he got the Major. Later, both >>> families were in Green, AL. There are land transactions for John R. >>> Several of Jameses kids were born there before he moved to Lauderdale, >>> MS. James left a farm there with one of his kids. >>> >>> It is very easy to be negative and critical, but if we can't accept >>> anything based on family histories, what reason is there to go on. We >>> have to accept a small amount based on empirical evidence backed up by DNA. >>> John W. Coats >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> -- >> A shameless plug for my web activities: >> >> Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal >> registration number before you buy!! 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