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    1. Re: [COATES] James and John
    2. Coats Family History
    3. I do not believe at this time, that any of the groups below had any connections whatsoever with North Carolina! Prove me wrong....:) Char On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Coats Family History <coats.genealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > Who is John R.? > > This is my understanding of this group: > > John Coats m Ann Dunnigan - who at times is called Maj. although > coming from the South that may or may not be a valid Military term... > > James Robert Coats m Elizabeth Webster > > William Coats m Francis - Newberry/Kershaw County SC > > We know from DNA that these groups are related but we don't know how > from the documents and I'm not sure we'll ever know, since so many > documents were destroyed in the South....we also know that at least > William Coats w Francis has documented connections with Notley Coats, > whose father is Charles Coats wife Sophia in Frederick/Montgomery MD - > Notley as well as at least one documented brother a James Coats and > other documents showing a connection with others in this SC > grouping... > > We have the documentation for John Coats m Ann Dunnigan their son was > James Green Coats, he was the executor in both their probates I > believe...that is a provable fact...as well as their other kids are > listed in the probates... > > I don't keep track of what is below other than in my line...but I > don't think unless old research is referenced or documented we can > rely on it... > > That's all I'm saying John....too many of these old histories have > been just accepted, I'd rather not do that with my family...however, > anyone else is free to do as they wish... > > There is indeed another James Coats in Bedford County TN who got a > land grant in TN from North Carolina, I suspect that is where the > North Carolina group of Coats and my line got mixed up... > > Look folks, provide me with documentation and I'm more than willing to > accept a line or good circumstancial evidence I will look at...but > with circumstancial evidence you can go a lot of different directions > on that... > > And I'd be just delighted to have someone disprove anything I say with > documentation...that is what research is all about....:) > > Family stories are great to a certain extent but unless you can > provide some type of references, they are just family stories...recall > at least two branches of my family have a story of a James Coats early > ancestor...that is still possible but if I'm too hard in that > direction I might miss clues that would take me to documentation that > could really connect this family with their past and I'd just rather > not do that.... > > So that's where I'm coming from...much conflict in family lines, not a > lot of answers yet....:) > > Char > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:31 AM, John Coats <jwcoats@htc.net> wrote: >> Dear List; The lineage I submitted came from the family history done by >> DeLeonardis, paid for by Sue Coats-Sumrall. Most of the earliest line >> cames from the Madison Coats Bible, which I've never seen a copy of, but >> it must be out there somewhere. The line back to James Robert was >> entirely correct as far as I can prove by wills, deeds, and censuses. It >> shows the first five kids were born in Robertson County, Ky-Tenn, where >> there definitely was a boundary line dispute, just as there was between >> Ohio and Michigan. When those counties were split up, Robertson >> definitely didn't get any records. They may be in Ky or Davidson, Tn. >> There were probably two James Coatses in the war of 1812 from TN. Maybe >> John R. served also, and that is where he got the Major. Later, both >> families were in Green, AL. There are land transactions for John R. >> Several of Jameses kids were born there before he moved to Lauderdale, >> MS. James left a farm there with one of his kids. >> >> It is very easy to be negative and critical, but if we can't accept >> anything based on family histories, what reason is there to go on. We >> have to accept a small amount based on empirical evidence backed up by DNA. >> John W. Coats >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COATES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > A shameless plug for my web activities: > > Support Authentic Cherokee Art - ask for the Artist's Tribal > registration number before you buy!! 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