Wasn't it Big John that was delisted?? No, there is no pension, he, wife or kids...and it's not just what the descendant supplies apparently....i.e. they probably had some clue as to where his service record was and then D.A.R. verifies it...but if this is a current application, you have to show, birth, death, marriage and each generations connection...I had to send wills or any records that were not published... But I have to say, I really do think in D.A.R. it depends on who is checking the records....sorry to say that...like I said I have one ancestor who's wife got a pension and D.A.R. is saying they can't prove his military service....most people I've talked to find it really odd that D.A.R. wouldn't accept the widow's pension...i.e. that is all primary source records, which 200 years later they've decided are not correct....:) In another case, they accepted a father's Rev service from Draper but not the son also the source was Draper....or at least I don't know if they've accepted it yet...I sent some other records so still waiting on the verdict for that one.... Not to mention that it's costing $75.00/supplemental to document these..., I think they're trying to catch up to the Mayflower Society which I understand is now $150.00 for memship....not to mention if they don't accept the application the fee is not refunded... Char ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Linda J. Coate" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [COATES-L] John Coats SC?? Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 19:24:07 -0400 I didn't know he was delisted. Would the index just give the info that a descendant believed belonged to him? I have never seen all of his Revolutionary War papers and wonder if he applied for pension with a wife named Mary. If his wife was Mary, he is the only John that died in 1803 with a wife named Mary. At 09:03 AM 8/14/2004, John Coats wrote: >Linda; I tend to agree w/you on this. However, weren't there 1 or2 other >John Coatses who died or had wills probated in 1803? You may remmember, >Gentleman John was recognized as a Revolutionary Patriot for providing >supplies and shoeing horses.However, he was delisted in 1998-99 because no >one could prove which John was which. He probably would have been a >blacksmith, but weren't all the Johns blacksmiths? >Now, if this was Gentleman John, then all the 7 people linked by DNA to >Marmaduke on the website would be related to him, because the John Coates I >had tested, proved back to him, and you all match. Not all would be >descendents of him tho, some may be descendents of cousins or brothers. >Yours in research, > >John Coats >Linda J. Coate wrote: > >>This is likely Gentleman John Coats. The date they give his death is >>actually almost the date of the probate of his will. He died a month >>earlier according to other records. Does anyone else have a better match. >> >> >>At 11:30 PM 8/13/2004, you wrote: >> >>>Who is this? >>> >>> >>> >>>COATS , John >>>Birth: SC Circa 1740 >>>Rank: PS >>>Service: SC >>>Death: SC 3 Jun 1803 >>>Patriot Pensioned: No >>>Widow Pensioned: No >>>Children Pensioned: No >>>Heirs Pensioned: No >>>Spouse: (1) Mary X >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back >>>to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx >>> >>> >>>==== COATES Mailing List ==== >>>To >>>unsubscribe, send the command "unsubscribe" to >>>[email protected] (if in mail mode) or >>>[email protected] (if in digest mode.) >> >> >> >> LINDA COATE, >>Columbus, Ohio >>[email protected] >>www.ancestrees.com >> >> >> >>==== COATES Mailing List ==== >>Coates, Coate, Coats Digital Archive: >>http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar >> >> > LINDA COATE, Columbus, Ohio [email protected] www.ancestrees.com ==== COATES Mailing List ==== Coates, Coate, Coats Digital Archive: http://www.rootsquest.com/~coatsfar